Question - ACL Recovery Timeline

by Gloria
(Casco, ME)


I had a patella graft ACL reocnstruction 4 weeks ago. I am 41 years old. My knee flexion is 105 degrees after 4 weeks, and my knee extension was good, but it has been getting worse this past week. I am doing all of my PT exercises.


This past week I started riging my road bike inside on my trainer. I had to put the seat and handlebars way up high, and it takes me 2nd or 3rd session to be able to peddle 360 degrees backwards. I have clip in pedals. I do not have my foot parallel to the pedal, I have it pointed downward throughout the pedal stroke, otherwise I cannot pedal the 360 degree rotation.

I feel like I am behind on the timeline.My PT guy does not know why. Do you have any input. I did stop taking Tylenol and ibuprofen in exchange for naproxen this past week. I have changed back to the Tylenol and ibuprofen. I have been doing some driving too. This may be irritating it, but I live 35 miles from my PT office and don't have family around to drive me. Friends drove me the first three weeks.

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Jul 23, 2008
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I wouldn't worry too much about the flexion
by: Bart - SII

It sounds like you are progressing well, even though it doesn't feel like it. Flexion of the knee will come with time - extension is the most important thing to work on. Being able to fully extend and lock the knee out is absolutely essential for normal walking and activities.

One thing you may try is massage around the scars and the front of the knee just below the patella. This area is notorious for a buildup of "gunk" for lack of a better term. Massage will help free up the tissue, cut down on excessive scarring, and will allow the knee to bend easier. It will also help with your extension.

You might also ask your PT to check your accessory motion, as you may be a candidate for joint mobilization at the tibio-femoral joint to help with your extension and flexion.

Hope this helps - comment back with other questions.

And hang in there!

Aug 01, 2008
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6 WEEK UPDATE
by: gloria

I'm still having trouble sleeping through the night. Seems like an unusually slow recovery. The doctor said I have substantial scaring, so that is inhibiting my recovery.

I called the doctor's office today to request a sleep aid, but they gave me hydrocodone for pain. I am suppose to take one at bedtime and see how that works. Hopefully, it will work! I am tired of not sleeping. Last night I was up from 2:30am - 5:00 pm. I got to watch some silly movie about a love potient and then I watched Dallas. Eventually, I was tossing and turning again, trying to get comfortable enough to sleep. That didn't happen. Sleeping is torture!


I am still pedaling away on the bike. I lowered the seat back to its usual height. Working on a 360 degree pedal stroke, without flexing at the ankle.

Feb 11, 2009
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Slow Progress 8 Months Out
by: Anonymous

It's been 8 months since my surgery. I still do not have full extension or flexion.

Feb 16, 2009
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Dr.s problem or yours?
by: Reggie

I had Acl allograft and Meniscal repair in late Nov. 2008- I am at about 110 degrees movement, can't straighten my leg straight at all, and have nearly dead Peroneal nerve affecting my foot muscle movement besides.. I am dealing with my surgeon now on whether my struggles are due to his lack of knowledge or simply being my body is taking so long to progress.
Have you run into any problems with your recovery besides lack of flexion?
The more therapy I do the worse I feel- three weeks ago it was different but now I look like an 80 yr. old lady when I walk out instead of a barely limping 38 yr. old.

Apr 04, 2009
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by: Anonymous

Seems maybe the surgery didnt go well? i got mine done 12 days ago and i can straighten my leg all the way out and can bend it to about 90*.Maybe it has to do with age and how strong/weak your knee altogether is.Im 17 year old athlete so maybe that has somethng to do with it.

Apr 04, 2009
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by: Anonymous

Hi I am about 9 days post op and am having a lot of difficulty with flexion. I am doing well with extension (almost to 0*-about7?? ) and have just over 45* in extension-maybe to 50* but that is with great effort and quite a bit of pain(I was wimpering with tears rolling down my eyes the first time mt pt got me that far!)Is this normal? What do you think? I find that when I do my exercises, stretching my hamstring first, then doing heel slides gets me farther.Any advice?

Apr 17, 2009
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3 Months Post-Op
by: Anonymous

First of all, for all of you that are 9 days, 12 days out, etc. I don't know if your surgeon told you or not but this is a really, really, slow recovery. You can't measure your progress day by day, it's more week by week. Any progress is progress and everybody is different. I had an ACL reconstruction and Lateral Meniscus repair 3 Months ago with a Patella tendon graft, I am 40 years old. Yes, it is painful and you'll actually have days you feel like you've gone backward. It's very frustrating and slow. I have extension of -2 and flexion of 114. Sometimes I can go for awhile without that changing. Just be patient and know it will get better but full recovery takes about a year.

Apr 23, 2009
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ACL repair...low flexibility
by: Anonymous

I had ACL reconstruction about 4 months ago. I'm a 31 year old PE Teacher so I'm on it all day long. Until about 1 month ago my recovery was going ok. Was running on it and using it well. The last month it seems to have completely seazed up. I only need to sit down for about 5 mins and I'm limping off like an old woman. My knee has terrible extension. It is nowhere near 0. My flexion is awful also and I cant sleep at night as i cant lay it straight. I also get alot of calf pain sometimes causing me to stop moving. The surgeon took a hamstring tendon to replace the ACL and I'm wondering if because my hamstrings have always been super unflexible, whether this has had an adverse affect on the movement capabilities.

Apr 23, 2009
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10 Months Out, Still STIFF
by: Anonymous

Okay, it's been 10 months since my ACL reconstruction. I have 10 degrees of extension and about 100 degrees of flexion, without doing any PT exercises. I can get it to 2 degrees and 130 degrees with work. However, it does not stay there. It is SO frustrating! My surgeon said I have arthrofibrosis and that he may need to go in and scrape out the scar tissue. Any advice on this out there in internet land?

May 10, 2009
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Advice on Rehab
by: Heather

Hi, I live in Japan and had ACL replacment using the hamstring 5 months ago. I go to see a PT once a week but all they do is massage. Can`t complain but want to get back on the volleyball court ASAP. Was oked to bicycle just recently so trying my best to get to the gym two or three times a week. (three young children and work so...) Anyway, my question is...I have always been told when training on a three day schedule to do two sections of the body at a time. For example chest and bicept, back and tri etc. So, to get my legs strenghtened more, can I train them everytime I go in? I`m doing light leg press, ham curls and calf raises. BTW, I`m 40, injured myself for the first time when I was 21 and was told there is extensive damage to the bones of the knee. Minuscus (sp?) pretty much toast too! Any advice would be great!

May 11, 2009
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ACL recovery
by: Anonymous

I had ACL autograph with hamstring tendon + meniscus repair just over 5 weeks ago. While the first week was tough things improved pretty quickly. 10-days post op I was walking without crutches and at 125 degrees flexion, and able to ride the stationary bike. Full range of motion (145/0) was back by week 4. Even so, doc and PT say no running until 3 months post-op regardless of how it feels. The problems I've had are with sleeping...still have knee ache and stressed-out quad muscles that have kept me awake for hours. My PT is now focused on strengthing quads and calves. Hope to be playing soccer again by Sep or Oct. 47 / female (biffed skiing in early Mar)

May 16, 2009
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Extension
by: Anonymous

Hi. I sympathize with everybody here. I see how much hard work your recovery period takes. But don't get discouraged. Individual recovery will be different as we all know so keep at it. I do have some suggestions that I hope can help. To improve extension: 1. Put a heat pack (wrapped in 6-8 layers of hand towels, this seemed like a lot of towels but it gets REALLY HOT without you knowing it so BE CAREFUL!!!!)under your knee, mid thigh to mid calf for 10 mins. before you do your hams/calf stretching. This relaxes the muscles and makes it a little more "pliable" when you stretch. 2. Another way is to prop your heel on a rolled up bath towel or coffee can for abt. 5 mins.(you can put a hot pack under your knee again if you want). With the help of gravity this can assist with knee extension. 3. Lay on your stomach with your lower leg off the bed. Your knee should be off the bed as well (just above the knee). Put a rolled up towel just above your knee to prevent irritation of your surgical site). Try this for 5 mins then 10 as you get used to it.

May 16, 2009
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RE: Advice on Rehab (by Heather)
by: Anonymous

Hi Heather. I wouldn't turn down massages either but there are so much more you can do to improve your knee. Light leg presses and calf raises are great (progress calf raise by doing singel leg calf raise), I wouldn't worry too much about your hamstring since it gets stronger a lot faster than the quads ( big muscle in front of the thigh) so I suggest that you add straight leg raises while on your back,elbow bent then elbow straight behind you as you get stronger. You can add quad sets (pressing the back of your knee down to the bed, do this frist before straight leg raise). Step ups: do this on the lowest step of the stair or whatever is available. Step up with your reconstructed knee then step off with the same knee/leg. Then turn and do this sideways.Mini squats (be sure that your knee does not go over your toes when you do this, you don't want to put too much pressure to your ACL right now). Weight shifting with toes/knee pointing forward NOT twisted, staggered your feet . Shift to the left-right-front-back. This add to the stability of the knee. IF YOU EXPERIENCED SEVERE PAIN, TOO MUCH INSTABILITY WITH ANY OF THESE EXERCISES, PLEASE DISCONTINUE AND SEE YOUR MD/PT. Goodluck.

May 16, 2009
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Rehab
by: Heather

Hi, Thanks. This is great advice. And I will add these into my workouts. But I guess my question is, how often a week can I do these? Everyday or just once or twice a week?

Thanks again.

Heather

May 17, 2009
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RE: Rehab by Heather
by: Anonymous

We tell our patients to do these exercises 10reps, 2x a day, everyday. When you're doing quad sets (pressing your knee down to the bed, hold it for 10 secs, then relax). When it gets easier, add more reps. Control every motion. Don't just flop your legs down. Your leg presses, it's ok to do those everytime you go to your gym so don't worry that you don't get to do it everyday...hope this helped.

May 19, 2009
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Not yet ACL surgery
by: Anonymous

So I tore my ACL on my right knee on Apr 26 playing football.

My Ortho said I to wait until my knee gets full range of motion before scheduling surgery.

This is fine by me, actually it's now May 19, and my knee is getting better, but I know I want the surgery to return to sports.

What can I do pre-op to get my knee at the optimal position for surgery?

I've been slowly going back to the gym and doing bicycles and swimming, and walking in the water.

I won't be able to have my surgery until mid-July.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated

May 20, 2009
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RE: Not yet ACL Sx
by: Anonymous

Hi! Swimming is a great low impact exercise. When you're doing the bike, have your seat higher and don't put too much resistance. Basic knee strengthening, quad sets (pushing your knee down to the bed, hold 5 secs then relax), SLR straight leg raise( lay on your back, affected leg straight then raise in front of you), heel slides (on your back again, bend knee then slide out)mini squats is good if it doesn't give you too much pain just make sure that when you squat, your knee doesn't go over your toes otherwise, you're just putting more stress to your ACL. Lay on your stomach, keep your leg straight and lift up, another version on your stomach still then bend your knee, lift up. 10 reps, 2x a day. When you're sore after, ice up your knee for no more than 20 mins. at a time. Goodluck.

May 20, 2009
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11 Months Out
by: Anonymous

11 Months since my ACL surgery. My knee surgeon is recommending a second opinion, as I still have a stiff knee. Flexion seems to be getting a bit better. It maintains flexibility for longer periods of time. When I sit in a hard chair, it stiffens up more quickly. I have not gained much at all in the extension area. I still have about 8 degrees of bend in my knee. I'm between 110 and 8 degrees. I have started a strengthening routine at the gym, under the supervision of my physical therapist. I go three times a week. I can see my quads and hamstrings getting stronger, and it has only been 2 weeks. I have also started mountain biking on the road. I go relatively slow, since I bike with my dog attached to my waist. I look forward to my second opinion. Perhaps I will not require more surgery. I would prefer to improve through nonsurgical means.

May 28, 2009
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Didn't Heed Advice
by: Tammy

Female of 47 who snow skis. Torn ACL back in December and finally had surgery March 5th.Going on 12 weeks now since my ACL allograft surgery. Surgery went well and PT has been going great. I highly recommend twice a week with the same therapist to get full extension and flexion. My only challenge is to not over due since I am eager to get back to full recovery (hiking, biking, running). BEWARE! Last weekend I hiked up a mountain thinking my quads had gained enough strength to support my weight on the way down the hill. I made it down with support from my husband, however, my kneecap and tendon below my kneecap feels like crap. I have gone two steps backward. I just hope you heed some good advice and not challenge yourself. Or, if you do decide to climb a major hill you should wear a brace and possibly take a walking stick for support on the way down. If you experienced a similar situtation please write to me and tell me how long it took to recover from this stupid thing I did.

May 28, 2009
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16 days out
by: Anonymous

My daughter is on her second acl recovery both using the patella tendon. Did the left one four years ago at age 15 and made a good recovery returning to her high school BB team in five months. She tore her right acl playing in college in April; had surgery 16 days ago and today had 118 degrees flexion and full extension to 0 degrees. She has 140 degrees flexion in her repaired left knee. Both had a little meniscus damage, that was trimmed out during surgery. The key is to stay with the program each and every day. Push yourself within the limits imposed by your doctor and PT. Do the exercises on your own. Continue to use Ice and Heat. And try to make a little progress every single day.

Jun 11, 2009
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ACL Hamstring Graft
by: Anonymous

Hi! I am 31 years old and I had my ACL reconstruction 3 weeks ago. I have been walking w/o crutches since day 1 of my surgery. I have full extension and can bend my knee just past 90 degrees. However, as a Kaiser patient I noticed that the PT is very quick 15 minutes/2 times a week...and sometimes less. You are really cranked through the system. It is really up to me to get my leg back in shape.

I have been struggling with my quad control, but leg lifts seem to be building up my strength. Anyone know of other exercises to build up quad control?

Also, I have a constant dull pain near my incision site. It pretty much cover the front of my upper shin. When will this go away?

Finally, the scar...has anyone tried Merderma cream for theirs? If so, are you please with the results? At $34 a pop I want to make certain it is worth it.

Good luck to everyone...and remember ice and exercise is our friend!

Jun 22, 2009
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ACL and menicus recovery
by: Anonymous

I'm going into my 5th week of recovery (I am 50 years old and very active) and have been very frustrated at the slow recovery from my surgery. After reading this site and seeing everyone else talking about the same issues, I'm feeling a little better as it seems my recovery is going pretty much like all the others.

I am going to therapy twice a week and doing a lot of home exercises as well daily. I almost have full extension straight and I'm up to 110 degrees bent which the PT says that's right on schedule. But I'm still having pain, swelling and stiffness....especially if I'm on my feet for too long or if I try walking too much. I am adviced to use one crutch still.

As far as the pain in the incision, my PT tells me to take and move the incision slowly back and forth and side to side to loosen up the scarring from the bone (being careful not to pull it apart, keep a little pressure on it to keep if from separating). The sooner it releases and moves freely it will help the pain go away.

It seems icing it helps a lot and you should continue doing this quite often. A bag of frozen vegatables works good for me for about 15 minutes on each knee (as my good knee is starting to hurt about as much as my surgery knee beings I'm using it for a lot of support these days).

Aug 03, 2009
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13 Months Post-Op
by: Anonymous

I had arthroscopic surgery to remove my scar tissue. My knee is quite swollen, but I am less stiff now than I was before the surgery. I am hopeful that I will have a successful recovery. Ice, ice baby.

Aug 03, 2009
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13 Months Post-Op
by: Anonymous

I had arthroscopic surgery to remove my scar tissue. My knee is quite swollen, but I am less stiff now than I was before the surgery. I am hopeful that I will have a successful recovery. Ice, ice baby.

Sep 13, 2009
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ACL Recovery
by: Sheryl

I'm a 48 year old woman, 2 weeks out tomorrow from patella graft acl reconstruction.Patience has never been my strong suit and I'm a little bummed at the length of the recovery timeline.Crutches are gone, full extension BUT I have tremendous pain in the back of my knee that prevents me from trying to bend my knee. I'm only at 90 degrees.Ice and meds help but I have this hard ball behind my knee, ouch!! Anyone else have this issue? Have'nt seen it on this site. Thanks-blessings to you all..

Sep 14, 2009
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surgery
by: oliver

is getting surgery scary for a torn ACL?

Sep 14, 2009
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GV reporting in
by: Anonymous

No, it is not scary getting the surgery. It is afterwards that's the pain in the ass. I am 15 months out from my initial surgery. I had scar tissue removed last month. My knee is still stiff. I don't think it will ever "normal" again. My body like to generate scar tissue, so scraping in out did not do too much to remedy the situation. I can walk without limping, most of the time. So, it is somewhat better, but not like I would want it to be. Yes, I did do all of my PT, and am still doing it.

Sep 23, 2009
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Timeline
by: Rosado

Tomorrow will be 4 weeks since my ACL surgery. My surgeon used my hamstring for repair. I feel pretty good and can walk fine without a limp and can go up and down stairs without much problems. I was off crutches 4-5 days and got on the excersice bike a week after surgery. As painful as it was my PT made me bike 10 min a day. The pain was from the swelling and fluid in the knee but the more I biked the better I felt. Doing stretches also helped. Bending my knee back 90 degrees every day helped alot too. Now I can bend my foot back almost all the way back to my butt.

I haven't told my PT but I've been doing some workouts that I maybe shouldnt. Ive been doing leg extensions and leg press with light weight. My PT says I wont be doing that till my 5th week but I went ahead and started it on my 3rd week and I think it has helped. Hope this helps

Sep 28, 2009
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1 step forward and 2 steps back
by: Anonymous

ACL surgery June 23 using hamstring - therapy 3x's a week. Good extension and 125 degree bend, BUT a lot of pain the past 2 weeks and weakness in knee and feeling of stiffness - knee has given away 2x's in the past 4 days. Therapist thinks more testing needed, especially as pain is radiating both up and down leg starting at outer knee cap. Really getting down, seems as if it should be less painful at this stage even considering my age..61 but very active.

Sep 29, 2009
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Keep on truckn
by: Gdo

I am currently 3 weeks post op from acl repair. I have pretty good flexation. Knee is still a little swollen over the knee cap. I do utility contruction and planing to go back to work in a couple days. With a cane and a acl sports brace. I am 31yo and tore it playing semipro football. I have been riding a stationary bike for about a week now with hardly any resistance. I do get sore geting off the bike but I think you Just have to keep moving around to get rid of the soreness. I push myself pretty hard and let pain let me know when to quit. Then I rest. But I think moving around will keep a person from losing the flexation. That's my thought hopefully it helps someone.

Sep 30, 2009
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Hamstring ACL
by: Anonymous

Had hamstring ACL replacement. No miniscus tear, just straight ACL-

Going on week three, knee is doing great. Fully straight and at 105 at 1.5 weeks. I do not go back to P.T. until week 5 and he wants we close to walking as normal.

I do heel slides, quad tightening, leg lifts. I am starting to do my stationary bike, at 2 tension for 10 minutes, no pressure, just trying to get more movement. Off crutches, only use when I leave the house, just in case someone does not see me and runs in to me. Knee is still stiff and swollen, so ice a lot.

Oct 06, 2009
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ACL 4 weeks
by: Anonymous

I'm at 4 weeks and not doing very well. I'm only at 92 and still 9 to go to straighten it. The other day it felt as though I pulled something tying my shoe. I had a hamstring ACL reconstruct. Do you know if something as simple as tying your shoe? Maybe I just stretched it? I'm working very hard on the bending and straightening, but feels like it's never going to go further.. any advise?

Oct 28, 2009
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ahh the patella tendon graft
by: Anonymous

Have patience.
Keep riding your bike as I found it to be the best exercise to strengthen the knee itself. Before long you can be a tri girl or whatever you love but it takes time... stop thinking you're on a set timeline- your body will let you know when its ready and it might be longer than you're hearing....

Have faith!

Nov 29, 2009
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MUST READ
by: I khan

Its a must read
hi to all friends

i ruptured my Acl on 31 0ct,1995 i showed it to many surgeons in peshawar but non of them were able to diagonse them,in 2004 in went to karachi for a job at there i visited agha khan hospital karachi and had my knee checkup one doctor naming pervez hashmi diagnosed it correctly by physical testing shortly speaking he was an an expert person later on i had an MRI which agreed with diagnosis.but since my family members were in peshawar so i decided to show my knee to a doctor in CMH pindi namend col sohail hafiz he alsoo diagnosed it without MRI scan i decided to have my knee reconstructed through him.he did a very good surgery but you can say say due to his meanness he did not referr me to a Physio therapist and by him self suggested me exercises i did what he advised but my recovery was very slow.on the other side he blamed me that i am not doing the exercises.anyhow the recover process was very slow but did not lose heart and did exercises regularly at present five years have passed i have almost 0 degree extension and about 110 degrtee flextion but i am still working hard one thing more i have done these exercises by my own because there are no expet phsiotherapist in pakistan and peshawar to guide me its my sincere advise for all my friends that before going for the surgery you must the following things.
1.check the competency of that doctor let your doctor diagnose the problem in your knee by the physical tests not just looking at the MRI scans.because doctors will put your knee under his knief just for money be sure that he is competent enough to do that surgery.
2.plz check thwe hospital records that how many Acl surgeries that doctor has performed.also meet those patients who have undrgone this surgery.ask them the problems they have faced.try to acquaint your self with all the procedures etc.
3.also search for an expert physio therapist who has done these sort of therapies dont go to quacks they will just [play with your knee.
4.wish you all the best te5kttak@yahoo.com

Dec 22, 2009
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ACL reconstruction and meniscus repair
by: Dinesh Pullat

I hear all of you and it's comforting. I had surgery 10 weeks back - ACL and both menisci repair.
I got upto 88 on flexion in 7 weeks, but then on it's been 2-3 deg each week. Currently, it's at 94 in the 11th week. Extension is at 0. I have no pain in the knee at all, just the frustration of not getting more flexion each day. The area that hurts is right at the back of the knee towards the calf - more like a nerve constriction, which ceases once I do the wall slide exercise. This works best for me. I walk each day for 20 min. and do PT twice a week with my home exercise set 3 times/day. I don't feel any pain in the knee nor do I have any major swelling. But with some tough scar tissue build up, it's really painful to push on the flexion. I'm hoping this is normal and I can soon get to 110-120 in 2-3 weeks.

Dec 28, 2009
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Post 5 month ACL Surgery
by: Anonymous

Male, 27 years old, "Very Active" Doing well.. Got full movement back.. Running two miles every couple of days!!

Dec 30, 2009
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ACL Surgery 3 Weeks Post Op
by: Anonymous

I had ACL surgery using a cadaver ligament and meniscus repair 3 weeks ago. I have been going to PT 3 times a week and I'm at a 125 degree bend with good extension. I have no pain just alittle stiff when I need to bend my knee. I'm still in the post op brace in lock mode. My knee still seems to be pretty swollen. I ice it as much as possible when I'm home and try to keep it elevated. Is anyone experiencing the same problem? Any suggestions on getting the swelling down?

Jan 09, 2010
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patellar tendon graft
by: drew Oidtman

I tore both my acl and calf muscle in the beginning of October. I had surgery about 2 weeks back and everthing seems to be going great. I am down to 0 degrees extension and up to 115 degrees flexion. My quad muscle has been strengthened alot since the surgery but i still cannot walk without crutches. I was wondering if anyone had the same problems? I also have a rather large ball behind my knee and i am hoping that the ball is my calf muscle

Jan 12, 2010
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Tips for achieving knee extension?
by: Anonymous

I'm almost 4 weeks post op ACL reconstruction with hamstring tendons and a menisectomy (torn medial meniscus). Quite interested to see all the comments about gaining flexion...I'm at about 110-115degrees but I am struggling with extension. The movement is there and can be achieved passively- when I am relaxed and the physio aids but I cannot get my leg straight and still have lag. Does anyone have some good advice on how to achieve leg extension? I've been doing all the pt exercises and cycling everyday but very keen to gain full active range of movement.

One of the posts above about feeling the hammies pull, if you've had the hamstring graft this is quite normal for the first 6 weeks...it's just scar tissue releasing so you have to be a bit careful. Keeping the leg bent when tying shoes bending over etc helps.

Jan 19, 2010
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10 days post-op. THANK YOU!
by: JP

I just wanted to say thank you to whoever started this site and also to whoever said they could not sleep through the night. My old lady thinks I just don't want to be up there to deal w/ the kids waking up, but there is just no way to explain that you wake up (in a night tremor might I add) at 1am and just lay there for hours! JP

Jan 22, 2010
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Rough surgery/ almost 4 weeks post op
by: Anonymous

I had my second ACL reconstruction with miniscus removal on my left leg on December 30, 2009. I had a very difficult surgery. The doc could not remove my original screws that were placed 15 years ago so he had to drill new tunnels next to the old ones. He opened my knee all the way up, like a full knee replacement. He then tried to get a good hold with the femur screw and ended up popping it all the way through my femur and lodging the screw in the back of my knee. It should dissolve in 6 months and we are hoping it will not give me any problems until then. I spent 3 days in the hospital instead of being outpatient. I am able to straighten to almost 0, but bending is a little harder I'm about 95 degrees now. I do water therapy 3 times a week in a swimex pool for an hour and then I do an hour on an e stem to help with circulation, swelling and the hole in my Femur. I am still on crutches and I am getting extremely frustrated with my quad strength. I do my exercises every single day until the muscle is fatigued, but I just don't seem to be getting stronger. I can take a few steps without the crutches, but not many. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to increase the quad strength? The pool just doesn't seem to be making it stronger. The pool helps with range of motion, but I need the quad to get strong so I can walk with just the brace. I live in Jackson WY and right now it is dumping snow and having to use crutches is terrifying when it is so slippery.

Jan 30, 2010
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Patience; Thanks
by: Richard in So CA

At 6 wks after ACL reconstruction (cadaver tendon) and cartilage/meniscus clean-up (second), I read all your comments and have great sympathy and . . . more patience now. I'm male, 52, healthy and active, anxious/unknowing about how long before I can return to demanding outdoor fun. You all helped me greatly and I thank you. Seems great benefit comes with patience and listening to our knees (swelling, warm to the touch, pain). The impatience, eagerness creates traps. Be careful to keep the steps backward to a minimum, lest we create problems on top of the rehab we already have in front of us (e.g., tendonitis, fluid/scar build-up).
The constant motion machine immediately after surgery (to just 40 degrees at start) and bike riding, started about week 4, seem the smartest things I did, besides trying to follow strictly the instruction from doctor and phys therapist.
I have significant pain in back/sides of knee and have to get the swelling down much as I can. I go a little backwards seems every time I try one of the newly assigned challenging exercises (last one balancing on new knee while bending forward).
Patience! Onward slowly but surely in hopes to be climbing, jumping, running, everything again better than ever. Right now, I just want to be able to walk down hill! Patience.

Jan 30, 2010
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8 Weeks Post Op
by: Anonymous

I'm 8 weeks post op from ACL reconstruction using a cadaver ligament and meniscus repair. I have no pain and have full range of motion. Swelling is pretty much down. However, my doctor still has me in the post op brace in lock mode except when I'm at therapy. I go to therapy 3 days a week. My therapist has me cycling,walking on the treadmill at a pretty good incline and doing all kinds of strenthening exercises. My muscles are getting stronger but it seems like the brace is keeping me from advancing any further. Based on other comments that I have read, it seems like most people are out of the brace by 8 weeks. It seems like my doctor is being alittle cautious. I should mention that this is the second time that I have had ACL reconstruction on the same knee. I was 18 when I had my 1st surgery and I'm now 38. My 1st ACL reconstruction was done using one of my own tendons but it failed about 4 years after I had the surgery do to a slip in the snow. Waited all these years to have it fixed now because was locking up on me more frequently. I was just wondering if anyone had any comments about being in the brace so long?

Jan 31, 2010
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8 Wks in Locking Brace
by: RCA

To 8 Weeks Post Op in the locking brace, I was into flexible brace at four weeks and doc says I'll be wearing brace for several months to avoid re-injury. I believe he's balancing how-much-I- can-be-trusted-to-not-re-injure with the-brace-is-not-absolutely-necessary. Maybe your doc has concern you'll push the limit and re-injure without the brace. I'd ask about going into the flexible brace at a minimum cause the locking brace is certainly taking a toll on the rest of your body, including your gait. Be patient.

Feb 03, 2010
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book recommendations on internal of the knee?
by: Anonymous

I'm at 8 weeks post op, ACL reconstruction using my hamstring and a partial menisectomy (I'm 34 years old). I have 0 to about 135 flexion and can walk and do my PT exercises fine. I am still limping though which is frustrating. Soon after exercises or some light swimming my knee feels good and I can walk without a limp. But sitting in front of the computer or driving for a while the knee gets stiff/uncomfortable and I'm limping. I've been told to be patient - which I'm doing. Reading other stories makes me feel lucky my surgery went ok.

Does anyone have websites or good book recommendations? I'd like to read up about all the muscles/ligaments in my knee and how they work. Books on ACL rehab exercises would be nice also. My PT place is ok but I generally spend only 15 mins with the actual therapist and the rest of the time just doing my routine exercises with an aide.

I don't plan to go crazy with all sorts of new exercises I read up about - but it would help to be informed so I don't inadvertently push the knee too much and also feel like I'm doing all that I can to get back to normal.

Feb 03, 2010
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Post ACL
by: Anonymous

I'm at 5 months post op and still limping. I'm at 137 and 0 but I can't keep a 0 for long. My doc said they "maybe did the graft too tight". I had a ACL, MCL and both meniscus discs repaired. I was at 17 extention and 80 flextion before surgery so I was really bad. I'm still doing 5 hours of therapy a week. I'm getting very discouraged. I feel good when my knee is warm and I don't limp, but like you said.. sitting at a desk all day is torture when I get up. Anyone have good advise for us?

Feb 06, 2010
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12 Days Post ACL (allograft) and Meniscus Repair
by: ACL/Meniscus Guy

First and foremost, this is a great site. I am a 30 year old male, 12 days post-ACL reconstruction (allograft) / meniscus repair. I took my first week off of work and returned to work on Day 7. I keep my leg elevated while at my desk, but not above my heart. It is parallel to the ground.

I have a question about exercises. I am in an full immobilizer brace and was told I'd be in this brace for 6 weeks. Both my surgeon and PT told me to do only ankle pumps, straight leg raises, and leg extensions for the first 2 weeks. Is this odd for my recovery? I have been reading around and most people are doing flexion exercises within the first week or so. Will my limited exercise during the first 2 weeks lead to scarring and limited flexion? Extension seems to be okay, I am around 0.

I am partial weight bearing, but cannot walk or limp around. I was told to expect to be on crutches for 6 weeks.

I injured my knee playing hoops. Pre-injury I was in good shape and played bball, football and softball, boxed and snowboarded.

BTW, the pain is unbearable at times. Cryocuff (the brand I have is Vitalwear) definitely helps out at night. Was off the vicodin on Day 5, so I could return to work. IB 600 mg is alright, but trying to learn to live with the pain.

Good luck to you all in your recoveries!

Feb 06, 2010
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12 Days Post ACL
by: Anonymous

To ACL/Meniscus Guy. I am a 38 year old female that is 9 weeks post ACL (allograft) and meniscus repair and was just able to stop using the brace at 8 weeks. I started bending my knee the day after surgery and started putting full weight on it within 2 days. I was doing the same exercises as you for the first week, however, by the second week my PT had me on the exercise bike. I found that the sooner you can start bending your knee the better your flexibility becomes. I to thought that I was behind schedule after reading all the comments. Most people were out of their brace within 4 to 6 weeks. Of course everyone is different and every doctor does things differently, so listen to your doctor and PT. I think my doctor was just playing it safe since this was the 2nd time that I had ACL reconstruction on the same knee. Unlike you, I never had any pain and didn't need to take any pain killers. I just took Motrin to keep the swelling down and iced it a lot. Be patient and hang in there.

Feb 13, 2010
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ACL (patellar graft)
by: Anonymous

2 weeks out ACL i have had absolutly no pain in the knee after the surgery and not many setbacks. i am with one crutch and i am not really wearing the brace unless i am out of the house(should i be wearing due to the extention). i am at 125/0 for bend/extention. i have found that if the knee is elevated it is very calm and does not hurt and when i am up moving that it gets very stiff and sore.

everyone on the site seem to have problems with the extention and that scares me cause i have not been wearing the brace. is it a problem to loss exention after to get it? last i would like to thank whom ever started this page cause it was exactly what i was looking for.

thank you to all and good luck

Feb 16, 2010
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medecin b4 surgery
by: Anonymous

hey
so im getting surgery in less than a month, I tore my acl, and meniscus. I am not worried about the surgery, but the pre-op stuff, and what they give you to relax you? Also like what things do they stick into you, like a tube or needle or what? Your help is much appreciated. Thanks,
Comeback kid

Feb 18, 2010
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Torn ACL, Surgery in 5 Weeks
by: Sanjeev Jatain

Thanks for all of you to contribute your experiences. I torn my Right ACL while skiing in Tahoe. Today I'm able to walk and also started some exercises as per my PT. My surgery is scheduled in 5 weeks but I started muscle strengthening exercises so that post surgery I've less down-time. Please advise if this is a good idea or should I wait for the surgery and then start the re-hab.

Feb 21, 2010
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Second time's a charm
by: E

Hello everyone, I am a 26 year old Female 13 weeks post op. Unfortunately I'm getting good at rehab! I tore my right ACL/med meniscus nine years ago and then repeated the injury in my left knee in Oct '09. Although both ACL's were reconstructed with a patellar tendon graft and both menisci were repaired (rather than simply cleaned/shaved down) both surgeries/rehab protocols were completely different.

With surgery 1, my Dr. had me in PT the next morning and forced me to reach 90 degrees of flexion. I was at 120 within a week or so, but had problems with extension for the first couple months and continuously had to endure prone hangs with weights. However, I was young and very eager to return to sports. I worked very hard at PT and at home to be released to full activity by 6 months.

With surgery 2 I was locked at 0 degrees for the first week and unlocked to 70 degrees for the following month (though it took the whole month to reach that 70). My extension was great and I reached -5 within the first month. Currently, I'm at 150/-5 but have difficulty with balance and medial pain.

I have no desire to return to soccer this second time around (as it was also the cause of my first injury as well) and so some of the intensity for a speedy rehabiliation is somewhat diminished. But I'm still working hard and look forward to running again! One of the most important things during a successful rehabilitation is a good attitude and optimism (and do what your Dr. and PT tell you!) Good luck :)


Feb 25, 2010
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ACL Tear/Lateral Meniscus Tear/ MCL Tear
by: thecampuslegend

I suffered the "terrible triad" injury on November 17, 2009. The ortho surgeon recommended 5 weeks of allowing the body to scar over the MCL and reduce inflammation. However, I reinjured my knee when I went to a Phoenix Suns game and jumped up for a t-shirt without my brace (smart, i know, right?)This caused the knee to re-inflame so I had to push back my surgery until Jan. 7th, 2010.

I will start of by saying that I am a 23 year old male that has always been active and am well conditioned. I play basketball, volleyball, football, etc on a weekly basis. During the time between my injury and surgery date, I did A LOT of PT. It was tough to manage into my schedule, but I'm really happy that I did it. I did PT 2 to 3 times a week and went at it with a pretty high intensity. Even outside of PT, I would ice my knee for a minimum of 4-5 hours per day, kept it elevated for 8 to 10 hours (no matter where I was) and would do strengthening exercises with the stretchy band they give you whenever I was sitting down. Full disclosure, I am a medical student, which means I am on my butt for 12 hours a day studying so it was easy for me to keep my knee iced and elevated. For all of you that have to work, I know you have it a little bit tougher.

Anyways, it is true, everyone progresses at their own speed, but you have to be really diligent with caring for yourself. PRE-op strength and health is just as important and POST-op health. If you haven't done any PT before your surgery, you are already behind the 8 ball.

One day after my surgery, which was a patellar graft, I was able to walk without crutches, albeit not very well, but still. I was told NOT to take my anti inflammatory medication so that my body could accept and heal appropriately. I know, it's a rather different view, but it worked for me. I was able to get full flexion and extension in my knee within 4 weeks of surgery. There is currently no swelling and I started jogging on the treadmill today.

My regimen consisted of PT 3 times a week for the first four weeks, riding the cycle (first 3 weeks, doing the elliptical ( week 4 and 5) and treadmill (today). I usually do no more than a mile on each equipment. And if you feel pain, that means stop, you are pushing yourself too hard.

I wore my brace for the first 2 weeks, but I can't really do what I need to do with it on, so I haven't worn in in the past 4 weeks (unless it rains). Know your limits, know your enviornment, and do not compare your progress to that of others for the sole reason that everyone has a laundry list of variable that can change the outcome. Recovery depends a lot on the skill of the surgeon, but also on whether or not you have the motivation to push yourself every single day. I'm not saying do PT every day, but even doing something as simple of 15 minutes of quad contractions when you are sitting will greatly improve your progress.

Sorry for the essay, but I'm really passionate about injuries like this.


Mar 03, 2010
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ACL- 9 weeks post-op
by: Anonymous

9 weeks post-op today. Finally decided to see what I could find about how others are doing and this sight did make me feel much better. Extremely frustrated with progress. Cadaver ligament and meniscus repair on right knee. 44 year old female. I was told I could have full weight bearing right after surgery which surprised me. Did anyone else experience this? I am at 125 however I have been for about 2 weeks. Therapy 2x a week though next week he says maybe we should cut down to once per week. I just want to be able to walk my dog without the fear of falling. Still limp and feel as though it is just not strong enough. Spring is almost here and this was a very long winter. Thanks for sharing everyone. I feel a little better now that I know I am not the only one!

Mar 06, 2010
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ACL-12 weeks post op
by: Anonymous

To ACL-9 weeks post op. I am a 38 year old female who is 12 weeks post op with the same surgery using a cadaver ligament and meniscus repair on my right knee. Actually this is the 2nd time that I had the same surgery. My 1st surgery was 20 years ago using my own tendon to repair the ligament, but unfortunately my ligament stretched when I slipped in the snow about 15 years ago. I finally decided to have the surgery again after my knee was progressively getting worse. I was able to bare full weight within three days after surgery. However, I have been going to therapy 3 times a week since the surgery and just got released to a maintenance program which I will be doing on my own. I pretty much had full range of motion within 2-3 weeks. I believe going to therapy 3 days a week and doing the exercises at home allowed me to gain my full range of motion pretty quickly. I still limp sometimes when my knee gets sore or stiffens up. I just recently started wearing shoes with a small heal but taking it very easy. Just keep working at it and you should be good to go by summer.

Mar 10, 2010
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acl reconstruction/miniscus repair
by: Anonymous

Its been six weeks since my acl surgery and miniscus repair using hamstring tendon. I stopped using the brace at week two and by week three stopped using crutches. I have full flexion and bending my knee is not a problem. Pt is a HUGE part of your recovery. You must stick to it as ordered by the therapist. I am a very active 37 year old women. This has to be one of the toughest things I have gone through physically and mentally. I have no problem with the recumbent bike. It seems the more i bike the better I feel. The most frustrating part so far are stairs and walking without a limp. I go to pt twice a week and progressing very slowly with those two things but as I am told by my therapists PATIENTS.I will be fitted for an acl brace for work. As my doctor thinks i will over do it. All I can say is stay true to pt. Do what they say..and remember to ICE frequently.

Mar 23, 2010
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is this bad??
by: Anonymous

so been reading comments. seems like everyones got a different flexion and extension with each coming week.

I had my acl reconstruction done about 3 1/2 weeks ago. I really regret not doing any serious excersises straight after surgery. because i had a arthroscopy about 4 months before my acl reconstruction i thought i had to not excersies it or bend it. So i only started excersising my knee 2 1/2 weeks after my acl recon. Im very worried cause the physio was sadly suprised.
Im on about 55degrees flexion now and 0 extension id say. BUt it really hurts whenever i straighten my knee again. its always feel stiff if i rest it to long...
Can anyone give me any advise or same stories similar to mine???

if it does not get better, i got told i had to get anesthetic and the doctors would have to force bend my knee to break up the scar tissue... doesnt seem to exciting

Mar 26, 2010
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What should I expect going in?
by: Suz

Wow. So grateful to have this site. Tore my ACL about 4 wks ago, and for various reasons am not having surgery for 2 more weeks (allograft). Been trying to figure out what to expect, and this helps. Scary... but at least it will ground me in what to expert realistically (my husband was wondering if I'd be able to climb half-dome about 8 weeks out - just showed him this to verify I wasn't being wimpy by saying I didn't think so). This site is a little little scary to read pre-surgery, so I would love to hear some of the positive stories too. I've been working w/ a trainer to try and maintain as much muscle as I can going in. Also - I'm not working too much at the moment so will have time to focus on rehab after for a while. I'm 45, female, and in relatively good shape. Also - since I live in Boulder which I think just might be one of the most athletic towns in the world, there are great orthos here who do this kind of surgery day-in-day-out. So... stories of what to expect going in and maybe a few of the positive notes on what you could do when would be great. Also - is anyone scared to go back to what they were doing before? I just landed funny in a kickboxing class and that was it. Would love to go back to those eventually but get gun-shy just thinking about it. Thanks!

Mar 28, 2010
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RE: What should I expect going in?
by: D.L.

I am a 30 year old female who is 4.5 weeks post-op using an allograft. I was in great shape before but had landed on my knee 6 months previous to tearing my ACL so already had patellar tendonitis in the same knee (so the knee and muscles around it were already somewhat weaker before the injury). I was able to walk without crutches 2 days after surgery, walk without a noticeable limp within the past week (so 3-4 weeks). I go to PT 2x/week and do my exercies at home every day and stretch it several times throughout the day. My extension is at 0 but my other knee goes to about -15 degrees so my surgeon wants me to work to get my injured knee to the same extension. My flexion is moving much slower. I would estimate that I'm around 115 degrees now and each day will attempt to move it more and more. My physical therapist said that will come with time and is more concerned with me getting the extension than flexion. I was told that there are milestones every two weeks and I fully agree. If you are looking at your progress in weeks versus days you will probably be less disappointed. At 2 weeks I felt generally better and was able to walk with less pain. At 4 weeks I walk without a limp and when I go from straightening it out to bending it there is far less pain and siffness. I am also now able to ride a stationary bike at a very low resistance with my seat at a normal height and my foot straight instead of pointing forward. I still have swelling at 4.5 week but figure that will ease up with time. I'm excited to see what 6 weeks brings. My advice (which I have gained from listening to my PT, surgeon, and just my experience) is: Put as much work in strengthening your quads, VMO, straightening your leg, etc as possible before the surgery. Anything you don't do well before is MUCH harder to do afterwards. Do your PT religiously. Ice as much as possible. Take every opportunity you get to stretch it out (I stretch while I watch TV, put on makeup, etc). Listen to it - if it's sore, get off of it, elevate, ice and rest. I am a very active person so sitting at home nearly kills me but I have found that the more I take care of the better it does. One last thing - I was way off on what I expected my knee to feel like after the surgery. I had never had surgery before so I was expecting my knee to hurt bad for a couple of days and then be like it was after the initial injury. Boy was I wrong! I somehow forgot that the surgery entailed drilling into bones among other things. Various parts of your leg are going to be sore for weeks, so don't be surprised if you are taking some sort of pain reliever and finding it difficult to sleep. I am still taking pain meds (low dose) and finding it difficult to sleep.

Mar 28, 2010
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Thanks - one more question
by: Suz

Thanks DL. Did you have a constant motion machine? Haven't heard too much about them here and I know my ortho is going to have me on it and off it at 3hr intervals. I'm assuming that is about range of motion (or something along those lines) but am not sure. Also - don't know if that will hurt or just be annoying.
Thanks,

Mar 28, 2010
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CPM Machine
by: DL

Hi Suz! I did use a CPM machine for two weeks. Two days after my surgery they removed the thick padding around my knee and just kept me wrapped in a huge ace bandage. It moves incredible slow and you can adjust the degree of flexion and extension. Your surgeon will provide you with a starting point and then you'll be asked to increase it 5-10 degrees a day. Using the machine does not cause pain. As you move up you will feel the stretch but if it's too much you can always stop it or lower the settings. I was in it for hours at a time while watching t.v. and didn't really notice it much. I asked my PT about them and she said that some surgeons believe they increase flexibility during the healing but studies have shown that after 6 months there is no difference between using them and not using them (that's why some insurance companies don't cover it so check with yours just in case). My thought was I'll take any help I can get during the first 6 months since I'm sure that's the hardest!

Mar 31, 2010
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ACL SURGERY
by: Shaq

I'm now almost 6 weeks post-op. I had acl and my meniscus done w/Hamstring graft.This has been one of the roughest recoveries I've ever faced. I'm still using one crutch and I don't walk without having my knee wrapped with the ace bandage or a soft pull-on brace, I just don't feel my knee is strong enough to walk without having something on it to stabilize my knee. I PT the knee religiously, straight leg raises, wall slides, hanging prones, quad sets, I've been able to ride the stationary bike since week 3 for 15-20 minutes and I do this everyday along with leg presses and etc. My biggest problem is straightening my knee. It will be straight while exercising & stretching but as soon as I'm done and iced up. My knee stiffens up and doesn't go straight. My last doctors appt I was told if I don't get my knee straight early, I may never get it straight!! THANKS DOC! That comment scared me to death because I'm a very active 39 Yr old female and my worst fear is walking with a gimp and being prisoner to a crutch or cane. Everything I've read and everything I've been told about recovery from this surgery is that it's a slow, slow, process and I need to be patient because things will get better. I feel as though I'm way behind where I should be and I'm trying so hard to be optimistic about a full recovery. I attended PT for 4 weeks and stopped very dissatisfied with the service, I felt like a number because they overlapped their patients and gave instructions for a particular exercise and left the room and returned 5 or 10 Mins later w/new instructions and at $40 a pop 3 times a week that was ridiculous to keep attending, so I took all I learned from PT and do all the exercises @ home and the gym. From reading your posts here I see I'm not the only one with recovery problems. I'm trying my very best to get past my fears and I'm hoping I'm on track somewhat.

Mar 31, 2010
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Feeling Great! ACL via meniscus transplantation
by: Alex

These horror stories are making me feel GREAT! I'm only four DAYS out of surgery and out of curiosity and wondering what kind of progress I should have by now I found this site. I still haven't even had my post op doctors visit yet, but am easily past a 90 degree flexion with I guess 0-5 degree extension. Pain was never a huge issue, however I have been treating my pain with the lowest dose possible before anything becomes too painful. I could walk without crutches the day after surgery (the day I could finally feel my leg again after the "block" wore off).

I'm not writing this to "rub it in" to those suffering, but to inform those doing their research before surgery like I did. I was a little scared of surgery and while in college and working there is no good time to take (what I thought was going to be) at least a month off. I have been very pleasantly surprised in my short time after surgery.

I tore my ACL about a year and a half ago and consider my waiting and pre-operative training the reason I am doing so well today. I am a very fit 22 year old male who just after a 1-2 month layoff after the tear went back on my very intense 4 day a week weight training with elliptical instead of running. I was very confident in my surgeons ability and expertise. He told me "there is virtually nothing that you can do to hurt your knee, but let your pain be your guide". And that's what I've been doing. Virtually independent (outside of driving) by now.

My advice, pre-operative training is VERY VERY important. Before surgery, outside of sporting activity, my knee and leg strength was as good if not better then it has always been. How many other people on this site can say that? <--The difference in my estimation to my success.

Apr 01, 2010
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2 weeks Post Op Update
by: Sanjeev Jatain

Hi All-

Torn ACL while skiing on Jan-23-10, operated after 2 months as no good surgeon is available and I opted allograft. Now into 2nd week of post-op. No meniscus rupture but complete ACL and bone bruises.

Pre-op: Spend 3 weeks (2 times a day) working to get my quad muscles strengthen to help me recover faster after surgery. Thanks to my PT.

Week1-CPM: Started CPM right from the next day following surgery and set 90 as target. CPM is the best thing for 1-2 weeks and will bring you faster recovery.

Week1-brace/icing: On brace/crutches for 3-4 days and 24 hrs icing. I even took bath after 3 days. Pain while lifting the leg.

Week1-PT: 2 times a week and able to do whatever my PT tells for that week followed by at-least 2 times a day at home. Moderate to no pain.

Week1-Medication: Regular on inflammation and anti-biotic but cutting pain medication to 4 a day. Used socks provided for 24 hrs and it helped a lot reducing swelling.

Week2-CPM: Reached it limit on day 9 and can easily do -5 to 115 but used it for few more days to open my leg before going to other routines. Will return it today or tomm

Week2-PT: 2 times a week. Leg/calf raises, leg-press, balancing...and can also move the bike but very slowly with seat set back to avoid pain..No pain with half-squats...I guess my pre-op thing is helping a lot.

Week2-Icing: Reduced it to 4-5 hours a day and only after exercise.

Week2-Medication: Only using pain killer once a day before sleeping or as per pain.

Week2-Brace: Can do most of things without crutches but keeping only one while going outside. Using bracing as minimal as possible.

Today is my 14th day post surgery and feeling good and I'm pretty aware that for 4-6 weeks there is fast recovery and then way slower.

I'm a consultant and need to fly soon regularly coast-2-coast so working to get as much comfort as possible using PT. So planning to go to PT 3 times/week for next 2 weeks.

I'll update in another week and best of luck to all of you recovering from ACL and other injuries.

Apr 27, 2010
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struggling to be patient
by: Anonymous

38 year old female - tore my ACL in taekwondo. 7 weeks since my surgery. knee is still swollen but I'm walking better every day. Used crutches for one day but could pretty much tolerate bearing weight immediately after surgery. Exercises, ultrasound and electrical stimulation are part of the physical therapy I do twice a week and I see great improvement in flexibility. For over a month after surgery I would wake up at 3AM or so with terrible knee aches. It seems to have affected my sleep schedule, because although I don't have the knee aches any longer, I still wake up at 3AM and find it difficult to get back to sleep.
I want to know when I can start running and swimming and hiking again, but I can't get answers from my doctor or physical therapists about it - they are so vague. I know it will be a looooong time before I can return to martial arts - I've accepted that.
I also have constant fear that I've reinjured my ligament without realizing it and that all of this is for nothing. I feel the need to test it just to make sure that it really is better than before the surgery. Do any of you feel this way? Maybe I'm paranoid.
I'm also worried about gaining weight - the physical therapy exercises aren't exactly aerobic and I feel so sedentary. Everybody around me thinks its so great that I'm walking so normally - but my mind is always on bigger things. I'm finding it difficult to be satisfied with my progress so far.

May 31, 2010
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ACl surgery may 20th 2010
by: Anonymous

I just had acl surgery thursday may 20th. I know its only been close to two weeks but my question is how long will it be until I get off crutches. I can't take Ibuprofan bc im allergic :( my doctor, knowing this, still told me 2 wks to 2 1/2 wks after surgery. After this time I would be able to get of the crutches and walk with a knee brace. I'm just not sure that the swelling with be down enough by the end of this week or into next week for this. In fact, will this have anything to do with moving from crutches to a knee brace?

Jun 01, 2010
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37yo/f
by: Sassafras

completely ruptured acl in dec 2007 while skiing. two pregnancies and 2.5 years later, i had another mri since i was ready to finally have the surgery and found that since the initial injury i also managed to get a grade 3 tear to the meniscus (jumping on a trampoline with your children and no acl is NOT a good idea). anyway, i am now 2 weeks post op. i am in tunisia. and now i am worried. i have been in an immobilizer since surgery and i don't start pt til tomorrow. my first appt with the ortho isn't until next week (3 weeks post op). i still have my stitches (two spot on either side of my knee and a two inch or so strip on my tibia). i am just so worried that all of this is NOT normal. i have taken it upon myself to remove the immobilizer just to massage my leg and to use a towel to assist with tiny heel slides. my calf and thigh are like completely atrophied at this point. i am just so worried now that i should have been more active. doc says crutches til 3 or 4 weeks post op. i don't think i will be even able to walk with no crutches at 3 weeks since i have NO muscle left in my leg. can't believe it's gone away so quickly. thoughts???

Jun 01, 2010
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11 Weeks Post ACL Surgery
by: Sanjeev Jatain

Hi All-

This is my 11th week post ACL surgery and I'm doing great. Here is what all I can do and don't

- Started elliptical after 6 weeks and do it 5-8 minutes
- Started lunges twice a day, feel very confortable after this routine.
- Knee/ACL feel strong and have no pain during the routines.
- I try to walk-down (stairs) 6-8 floors for natural knee movement..Getting up is no issue from week 1.

Still not started treadmill or any sort of running. Will wait few more weeks.

Someone asked about crutches....I only used both for 1st week and then 2-3 weeks used one very minimal...if you are outside in crowd please sue it to send a signal to others so that they will be careful.

To pevent the scar tissue please also start massaging your knee specially around the stiches. Rest rely on your PT & surgeon.

Cheers!
Sanjeev Jatain

Jun 09, 2010
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13 Weeks Post Op
by: Anonymous

I am a 33 year old female. I fell 1/18/10 skiing and did not have surgery until 3/5/10 due to the doctor felt there was to much swelling and wanted it down as well as I lost extension before surgery so I started PT to strengthen and try to get that back before surgery.

From the fall, I injuried my, ACL, MCL, LCL, Meniscus, muscle damage and bone bruse. I was really hurt.

I have a low pain tolerance so my husband has listened to me complain since 1/18 about the pain. (Lucky him) When I woke from surgery, I instantly was in LOTS of pain all around my knee. I decided to have my ACL replaced the cadaviar route hoping less cutting on me. The first day it was to painful to sit to even go to the bathroom, it felt as if my knee cap was moving out of place. For two weeks my husband had to put me in bed because I could not lift my leg. I have been very deligent with my at home therapy and go to PT twice a week three hours at a time. I was off crutches and out of the brace after 4 weeks and did not start driving until week 7. (That was a killer). The pain in my knee is so much less, it is the muscle pain all around my knee that is HORRIBLE. (Bending is the most painful) I lost LOTS of muscle and regaining that has been quite painful. While at my doctors appointment last week I was told this is very normal for my injury.

I was almost completely 100% straight coming out of surgery but did not have the elasticity in my leg to lay straight. My physical therapist would literally push down on my knee and hold until I would cry and cry trying to get the knee comfortable with going straight. Now straight is the most comfortable but my bend I think sucks. I am at a bend of 140 degrees but when on my belly bending my knee (trying to get foot to butt) I hardly bend past 90 degrees. Everyone tells me to be patient and it will come. I am one who is use to go go go and am ready for the bend now and to get back to running. Due to the loss of muscle (one leg is smaller then the other) I cannot run until I build the muscle up more.

I am eager to get back to normal and although I am so much stronger now then just weeks ago I know this is a slow and long process. Good luck to you out there.

Jun 11, 2010
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by: Anonymous

I am a very active 55 year old who has torn my right ACL playing tennis. I'm scheduled for surgery. Due to my petite size my ortho is going to use a cadaver to replace my ligament. I currently feel no pain. My only problem is that I cannot play tennis or completely bend my knee. Should I go with the surgery?

Jun 12, 2010
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Surgery May 26 ... Making progress
by: K

I had my ACL reconstructed (hamstring tendon graft) and a meniscus cleanup 16 days ago. Surgeon said not to start physio until the post-op appointment which was 2 weeks after surgery. Had the appointment earlier this week and when I asked if I should start physio, I was told that I can start an at-home physio program (for which he provided the instructions - included some general exercises). When I asked if I would have to attend formal physio at any point, he said that it wasn't necessary if I was making progress on my own and doing the recommended exercises at home. Now, is this possible?

My knee is feeling good. Weaned off the pain meds this week and I have complete extension and flexion is about 130 degrees (only about 4 inches from heel to butt). Extremely surprised by this and now hoping to get full flexion sometime next week or at worst 1 month post-op.

Cheers for the advice. This site has been a tremendous help.

Jun 19, 2010
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4 weeks out
by: Kymmy

I had acl reconstruction using hamstring tendon, meniscal trimming (apparently not a lot left now) and both my medial and lateral ligaments trimmed up from previous scar tissue almopst four weeks ago. I have approx 5 deg extension and it is only swelling that prevents it from going to 0 and approx 90 deg bend.
I see a pt once a week but have a range of exercises to do at home, most being hamstring/quad cocontractions. I hobble without crutches and although my recovery schedule says I should be down to one crutch I walk straighter and more confidently with two.
I have very little pain, unless pushed too far or the wrong way. I notice alot of posts have mentioned ibuprofen. I was told not to use it because as an anti imflammatory it prevents the graft attachment points in the bone from healing. I was told paracetamol only.
My biggest problem is I have just now contracted cellulitis in the larger wound below my knee. So now I am on daily visits to the dr and on a strong dose of antibiotics. Not my idea of fun!

Jun 21, 2010
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ACL w/ allograft/5th week post-op
by: Joy

Just saw my surgeon today, says I'm doing well. PT 2x per week. I have 0 degrees extension & about 120 flexion. He is very positive & motivating but says need to work on the flexion more. This is such a long, hard, process and I get frustrated but will keep at it. Some days feels like my knee will never feel "normal" again. Still have some swelling(fluid)& discomfort. I am an active 47 y/o female. Injury from snow skiing wipeout on April 6th.

Jun 28, 2010
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follow-up - 3 1/2 months post-op
by: Anonymous

Just a follow-up from the anonymous 38 year old female who tore her ACL in taekwondo. I have, for the last month, been working out on the elliptical and treadmill four days a week and doing physical therapy exercises with NO swelling or discomfort. Surgery was 3/11 so I started working out roughly 11 weeks after surgery. No stairmaster or weight training. Last Monday I got the all clear from the doctor to return to taekwondo in October. I was thrilled. I AM thrilled. I struggled with patience and weight gain during this process but I am so grateful to have things returning to normal. And I am so happy that my knee has been so cooperative! I hope that those of you that are early in the process and feeling down read this and know that there is light at the end of the tunnel. Take your glucosomine/chondroitin, do your physical therapy exercises, get lots of sleep and take up a new hobby until you have full use of your leg again. Good luck!

Jul 01, 2010
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Pre Op Fears
by: tbm

I am a 60 yr old male, very active with very little patience, and live in Colorado. My ACL surgery is scheduled for a week from today. Have there been any studies as to use of my own tendon vs. cadaver? Any thoughts, comments?

I have been riding stationary bike for past week trying to maintain some activity. I am riding about 30 minutes per day and keep moving about as normal as possible the rest of the day. Swelling from accident is almost gone, little or no pain at this point, two weeks since accident.

I am really scared about the length of time for recovery. Prior to this I played racquetball 3 times a week and worked out on weights 2 times a week. I really am scared, as I know I am not a very good patient. STRIKE THAT, I am a lousy patient.

My goal is to be back on the court (RB) shortly after New Year. Good Luck to all of you.

Jul 01, 2010
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4 Weeks Post-Op
by: bcb

Had Acl reconstruction and miniscus saved down. 4 weeks out I have 120 degrees flex and -8 at extension. Therapist says not bad since it was only my 4th time at therapy. Still having trouble with stairs. I'm lucky though, after surgery I needed no pain killers accept for motrin and a little ice (I have a personnal issue with pain killers, so I guess I don't mind pain so much). I can tell you that continuing your PT at home helps alot. I just wish that some results were coming a bit fast. My doctor told me that I will not even be able to start running until the 6 month mark (That's frustrating). Kind of hard some days to stay positive, but I just remember that the sweat, tears and pain will pay off in the end. Can't wait till the doc tells me I can start to do standing weight lifting again. My legs have always been very large and stronge, so this is all new to me, not being able to use my leg much and seeing the muscles turn to mush. Keep up the good work in PT everyone.

Jul 24, 2010
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16 days out from ACl replacement and bilateral miniscus repair.
by: Anonymous

I wish I had found this site earlier! Im 49 yrs old and was thrown from my horse in May. I was really unprepared for the amount of pain I experienced during the first week post surgery. My surgeon, the day following surg. in his office he stated that I was to start PT the following week, he wanted me out of the brace when home and as needed when out and absolutly no pillows under my knee. He gave me a number of exersizes to do starting asap and stated that I could do them enough. Yesterday @ PT I was a 3/95. What I am having difficulty with is the swelling. I continue to struggle with the above the knee cap swelling. It feels like it is the biggest impediment to making faster progress. I just want to loose the limp and get back on my horse!

Sep 19, 2010
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14 weeks ACL status
by: Anonymous

14 weeks post ACL surgery (hamstring graft). Feeling now like I have turned the corner and really progressing nicely.

Immediately after the op i used crutches for just under a week, was advised not to use a knee brace at all. Back to work after 4 weeks and still doing tonnes of exercises to strengthen the leg. Didn't suffer at all with pain or inability to sleep post-op either so from reading some people's experiences here I do now feel like I have been quite fortunate in many respects.

Flexion not quite back to normal but slowly returning. Biggest problem I found was the mental side of it, I was feeling very down for weeks thinking that I shouldn't have had it done but for all those reading this who are due to have the op - the road is long but the rewards will come with hard work, good professional advice and lots of patience.

Before the op I did an awful lot of pre-habilitation and felt super fit before going in for the surgery so do what you can beforehand and it should help. If you can cycle that's what I was mainly doing and it helped the quads and hamstrings a lot.


Oct 09, 2010
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Walked 3 hours after surgery
by: Anonymous

I toremy acl, meniscus etc in my knee a year ago then my 18 yo son proceeded to do it last month on the eve of being offered D1 football offers. So I asked(and I had been asking for sometime because of my own injury-which, no surgery, it is very functional, but took a year and lots of work)
Who is the best? How can we get the boy back? Took him to three surgeons where we live, then eventually went to Tarek Souryal in Dallas. My son woke up on two machines, ice and the motion thing. Then, he was braced and walked to the bathroom three hours later. My dad who has had 7 knee operations,(three at the Mayo Clinic) was shocked to see my son walk tonight. He is off crutches, of course in a brace, and is cautioned to use the crutches as a barrier if crowds/school are around. He had to be at 90 before we could leave Dallas today on the motion machine. Of course, we have a long way to go, but ROCK STAR on our experience so far!

Oct 15, 2010
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4 wks out
by: Anonymous

I am now four weeks out from ACL replacement (my own patellar tendon) and meniscus repair. Fit 45 year old male, tore it playing soccer.

Off crutches within a few days, in a brace for the first three weeks. Pain has not been too bad (Percoset for a couple of days, then Advil). Swelling went down a bit the first week or two but no noticeable improvement since then.

PT three times a week starting within a few days of surgery. I had full extension very quickly(although the leg constantly feels like it wants to retreat, and is not even with my good leg which has some hyperextension) and am now at about 120 degrees flexion. While I am making steady progress on the strengthening, gaining flexion the last couple of weeks has been very very slow.

Most frustrating part is that I have a limp that I can't seem to shake. Some sort of habit that I picked up while wearing the brace that I can't figure out how to get rid of.

Oct 19, 2010
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Head up- 5 weeks post-op
by: Brett-In-Ky

Hi all, I was 5 weeks post op yesterday and let me say that although it seems like a slow recovery it will all defintely get better with time. I cannot stress that enough. I had an Allograft (ankle tendon from cadaver) and complex medial meniscus tear for which they cut most of the torn part out. I am at 140 degrees flexion and -2 degrees extension. My non surgical knee is 145 degress flexion and -5 degrees extension. Though my therapist says that more than likely I will not be able to replicate those numbers with my surgical knee. I'm probably about as good as I will get ROM wise. Now the big thing is just strengthening the surgical leg, and that my friends has not been easy thus far. I still have some mild swelling around the knee-cap. But it has gotten tons better to where you can actually see my patella. I too still have trouble sleeping at night due to the aching feeling in my knee. I have quit taking hydrocodone for a couple of weeks and have now turned to Ibuprofen. I am 25, used to be an athlete and i'm in pretty good physical condition. So I think that helps some, plus my swelling was minimal before surgery and I had full range of motion in the bad knee prior to surgery as well. I will add that it is nice to be able to chat with other who have had the same operation and been through the same injury.

Oct 21, 2010
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ACL-Recovery
by: David

I'm 45 and had my ACL (Allograft)and some miniscus repair done 5 weeks ago. I had a range of motion machine and that helped a lot for anyone having ROM problems. Almost have full extention and flextion. Started to use a pool on my own this week and it feels like the best thing so far. No real swimming just holding the side of the pool to kick and do straight legged extentions. I race bicycles so I was dying to go for a ride to work on quads. Rode easy for one hour and knee felt good. Anyone know if the bike is not recommended or it is to early to ride due to the graft not healed. My PT guy has me ride for 5 mins to warm up the knee, my bike felt better. Anyway great to hear everyones experiences with the ACL. I think it goes different for everyone. Good luck.

Nov 01, 2010
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40 yr old male second acl repair
by: Anonymous

I'm a 40 yr old male 4.5 weeks after acl (hamstring) repair and miniscus trim. I had acl repair at age 19 with a graph. I'm not sure if it is the age, miniscus or using the graph but it was so much easier to recover at age 19. I have finally started sleeping somewhat normal these past couple of nights. I stopped taking pain medication after two weeks and have gained almost 100% rom (slow and steady). I stongly caution you young kids not to push it too hard. It is so critical for the healing to take place and you can only hamper the repair by going too hard. For you old farts like me. Slow and steady wins the race.

Nov 03, 2010
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Lateral release
by: Anonymous

I am 1.2 years after having ACL, MCL and menicus surgery. I did everything the Dr and PT told me to do and still have problems. I'm going in to have a lateral release done on Monday. I'm nervous. The reason I'm having this is because my knee pops, grinds and hurts all the time. I still can't squat and my knee has to "warm up" before it gets straight. Has anyone had a lateral release and can you tell me anything about it? I have been reading on the internet and really hope this will fix me. I'm a 35 yr old female who is very active. But, 1 fall last year and I really screwed up my knee.

Nov 10, 2010
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ACL/meniscus repair
by: Anonymous

Hi all, I'm 26 and on day 5 post-op. First of all, I have to say that this site has REALLY helped me to see that there are a lot of people going through this will me. I have been very depressed since I initially injured my left knee this past oct and am getting married this month 11/27 and then moving across the country! Since my surgery, I have been crying a lot and feeling sorry for myself (I really wanted to dance at my wedding!)BUT these last few days have been okay. Pain is MUCH better, I'm weaning myself off of the percocet, and I'm at 65 degrees on my CPM machine. I'm doing the exercises my PT have been telling me, and yesterday was the first day that I have been able to walk with crutches! The first few days have felt like there has been no light at the end of the tunnel. Every day gets better, even if it's only a little bit. For those of you who just had surgery and it feels like all you can do is lay there and are in a lot of pain, after a week you'll start to feel a little better. Just keep with the exercises and you'll do great!

Nov 18, 2010
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STAY HUNGRY WITH THERAPY
by: Brett-n-KY

I was the same way, i was depressed initially after surgery and cried a few times. I believe it is normal for some people. I have always been active and all the sudden BAM!!!! I couldnt do anything hardly. I promise you there is light at the end of the tunnel for sure. I am now 10 weeks post op and back to work finally. This was my first week back. I will be allowed to do light jogging in two weeks. I had the allograft with medial menisectomy and the meniscus removal i feel has hut more than where they drilled the holes for my new acl in my tibia and femur. it aches still especially at work when i'm on it practically all day. But i'm happy with it. I honestly will try and go the full 9 months to a year like the doctor has told me before i return to basketball. I seriously dont want to end up like robbie hummel and tear it twice. But good luck man with the move cross country and everything. Let us all know how everything went.

Nov 27, 2010
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1 month out
by: JT

I tore my acl and damaged cartlidge also 1 month ago.I'm SCARED as hell because of the down time and money I don't have for the pt after surgery.I'm going in for patellar in 1 month.I had no idea this was going to be a long road .Just starting to have less pain and walking fairly normal with sports brace.Happy holidays everyone!I'll keep reading.

Dec 08, 2010
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5 Weeks Post op
by: Anonymous

I am 5 weeks out, and have 125 degrees of flex and can hyperextend. i understand that if you can fully flex your knee without pulling out your graft the surgeon did his job. i also understand that if there are going to be complications caused by the surgeon it would be as you are gaining extension.

i apply my success to very agressive PT starting 1 week after surgery and a place that does rehab for professional athletes as well as joes like me.

Dec 08, 2010
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Anomaly
by: Anonymous

I had ACL reconstruction and meniscus repair 8 weeks ago tomorrow. I have full flexibility, 0-150 degrees (which I have had for a while). I do truly feel that I could be fully healed by 3-4 months. Today at PT I leg pressed 317lbs (4 sets 15 reps). I am almost begging my PTs and doctors to let me start jogging but they will not out of percaution.

I think my success is a combination of my surgeon and my motivation. I hope all of you who are having slow recoveries hang in there because I'm sure with enough hard work, you will see positive results. Its in your hands now!

Dec 15, 2010
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ACL (hamstring tendon)
by: JR

I'm 48 and tore my acl in January 2010. Had my acl repaired Dec 10. Went into surgery at 8.00am and woke up at 9.30 am feeling good. I was discharged 3 hours later. So far I have had no pain. Stopped taking oxycotin on the second day. I could walk with a cane by day 3. Also started PT on day 3. On day 4 could get 0 extension and 110 flexion. If maintain flexion by day 6 , PT will start me in gym(yikes).

In terms of home rehab, I was doing quad flexes on the surgery day. Onthe second day? Added several others various legs raises as was instructed.

Biggest pain so far is the awkward brace and the fear of hurting your new graft.

Dec 29, 2010
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ACL
by: Anonymous

am a 44 yr old active male 9 weeks out, had a patella graph from other knee. They had me walk 1 hour after op, and was in PT the next day...it was tough...I iced 24/7 the first week and kept it up as much as possible, have not ever had a brace (was told to rest with my heel eleveated and let gravity starighten leg). have been cycling (stationary bike) since day 2, even though it was only 5-10 mins at first and worked my way to 30 mins by day 6, am now at 60 mins per day. I travel for a living and was back flying by week 3, but it was not terribly comfortable. still limping slightly but it continues to improve weekly. Have slowed my PT to once a week just to keep me on track.

Dec 31, 2010
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The longest heal in history
by: Anonymous

I had surgery for an ACL tear on July 21. I had to wait seven weeks after my injury for the surgery (the surgery had to be postponed because of my inability to straighten and flex my leg.)

It's hard to believe it'll be six months next week that I had my fall. That I haven't been able to dance, hike or walk my dogs.

I recently switched PTs because I really felt like the guy working with me had simply burned out on me. He would often scratch his chin, then go on to suggest I do the same stuff I'd been doing. The new PT has suggested I do fewer exercises but that I really do them intensely. I think I was just overwhelemed by the sheer quantity of exercises and I was simply going thru the motions. I've noticed a slight improvement with this new approach. Hopefully, it'll help. That it really is just my quads that need to fully wake up, as they keep telling me. But in darker moments, like when I get up in the morning and move Frankenstein like to the bathroom, I worry that something is permanently wrong.


Jan 03, 2011
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3.5 Weeks Post Surgery
by: Susanne

I had my ACL reconstruction on 8th Dec. last year using an allograft. 5 Weeks before the ACL surgery I had to undergo another surgery for a partially torn quadriceps on the same leg. Fortunately I have an excellent doctor and PT, both who are supporting me extremely well and setting the right frame to go back to sports soon. Today I just went to my first spinning class after surgery and I did really well. Stopped using crutches 2 weeks ago, my knee is at 115° and full extension, I can do squats with 30 kg and am doing leg press since 2 weeks. My PT strongly advised to really take care of my scars (from both the ACL reconstruction sewing the muscle)so currently I massage my scar at least 3 times a day(when at work I shortly go to the restroom to take care of my scar) and this really helps. Other than that my PT works with me well, when I am improving with something ahead of the official timeline, we just keep progressing and moving on. Before I try a new excersise, my PT checks if I am doing it right and gives than green light or corrects the movement. I think the key to a good recovery is a good PT.

Jan 09, 2011
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Recreational tennis player/ACL recon
by: Anonymous

I'm an active 33 year old female and had my ACL reconstruction with meniscus repair 3 months ago after a recreational tennis injury. I also had a partial MCL tear at the time of surgery and had my surgery about 3 weeks after the injury- not sure if that's relevant. Anyway, my extension is good but my flexion has been very slow and painful. I go to PT 3x a week and my current best with PT assistance(PT pushing on the leg) is 115, but I only got that once two weeks ago and have since been lingering around 112. On average it seems I gain about 5-8 degrees of flexion a month. My best flexion on my own without the PT pushing on the leg is in the 105-110 range, but basically anything past 105 is excruciating. My doctor has said that if my flexion stops improving that he will consider a manipulation under anesthesia at 3 months post op (which is right about now). I have a doctors appt next week, so we'll discuss then whether or not he feels I have "plateaued" or if I'm improving enough to avoid the manipulation. I'll more than likely go with whatever the doctor recommends but was wondering if anyone out there who has any experience with this sort of situation can give me advice? Should I just keep working at the flexion in PT and avoid MUA? At this rate it could be another 2-3 months of PT before I can begin to comfortably run/jog. Right now I'm way too stiff to even think about jogging, I can't even walk down stairs one leg at a time without a great deal of pain. Or should I lean towards doing the MUA as a way of speeding up the process? I know there are certain risks involved with the MUA so just trying to do my homework. I really want to be back playing tennis this spring/summer, please help.

Feb 27, 2011
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Slow road to Recovery - Hamstring graft
by: Anonymous

47yrs - female (lax sportswoman) I damaged my right ACL and had medium grade tears on the meniscus. Surgery on 20/12/2010 and am in the rehabilitation stages. Like many of the contributers I was up walking (sort of) post surgery and have experienced many the stiffness/straightening issues. I have almost parallel extension and bending capabilities on both legs (<150; -1) but the right is stiffer/slower and I am more careful when bending and extending. I am finding that listening to your body and a bit of common sense helps immensely.

I have been swimming from 6wks (40 - 60 laps of 25m pool) using a buoy between legs and no kicking. In the past three weeks I have been alternating between buoy and none i.e using a three/one kick (left/right). Last week I tried 10 lengths of no buoy and no surprises - my leg aches so back to previous routine. I hiked up to 600m using a walking stick. Result no serious pain and quick recovery. I find that doing hamstring / calf and thigh stretches has aided my recovery.

Am doing home recovery exercises and supplementing with PT visits 2-3 wks. The hardest thing for me was being told to not walk more than 1 mile each session? I'm now up to around 5 and much happier. It's frustrating being in rehab but I have met and shared my concerns and issues with others in a similar situation and it has been positive.

I still have numbness along my outer shin area (massaging using arnica oil from wk 4), and my knee did not like the deep knee squat I performed whilst looking for a pot at the back on a low cupboard (its the cartilage that protested) but I see these things as small challenges to get myself back to being mobile. Oh yeah, my hamstrings protest about the cold.

Great to read about others adventures, chins up and keep slogging along with your work.

Feb 27, 2011
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10 Months post ACL Surgery
by: ACL Recovery

Its been 10 months I had my ACL surgery. Initial 3 months I had very fast recovery and then I got to travel a lot....and this is where I ignored regular PT for 3 months..From last 3 months I'm back on track doing lot of things...I'm spend good 30 minutes elliptical (10+ level), leg pushes, side jumps...looks okie...I'm even hiking little bit..but no serious sports which is a kind of punishment..a long one now..

The real problem is leg extension..I can't even move the bar (even without any weight on it)...Anyone please advise if there is something I'm missing..

Feb 27, 2011
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ACL Cadaver Reconstruction 3 weeks ago tomorrow
by: Mark

So glad I found this site as now I feel like Im doing well. I am a 40 yr old male and had ACL reconstruction with Cadaver doner 3 weeks ago. The surgeon also does the Orlando Magic players and is known to be fairly aggresive on rehab. He also shaved and reshaped my bones during surgery as I apparently had a defect putting extra pressure on the acl.

I came off Hydroceodene by day 5 as it made me very nauseas. Went to Advil 600mg three times a day as per DR.

PT 3 times a week. Day 10 went down to one crutch or cain and then by day 16 can walk without a cain. I still take it when I leave the house as it is amazing how inconsiderate people can be in a crowd and they will walk right thru you even seeing the scars and stick !!

At day 18 I have been doing the stationary bike. Very stiff and painful at first but loosens up within couple of mins. I am at 0 extension and 117 degrees flexion which the therapist said was way ahead of schedule, but i thought she was just being positive and nice. I was told 90 degrees was target at that point. Reading on here it appears i am indeed doing ok and a bit ahead of schedule.

During PT at home this weekend I have started to feel much more stiffness and pain. Kinda felt like I had hit a plateau. I took myself down to 400 mg Advil three times a day now so that may have something to do with it.

I ice a lot which really helps with pain and do the PT exercises (raises, heel drags etc.) twice a day.

I feel a tightness nr my patella tendon which Im assuming is all part of it. Its not hot or anything so I think its just stretching.

Swelling has gone down considerably other than at top of knee which is still puffy. After major swelling in the incisions this too has passed and they are healing very well.

I am now feeling sharp pains occasionally which i think might be either the bone screws or just where he drilled and reshaped bones

I see many people here are a good few months into rehab and still having issues so im just gonna be patient, do as I'm told, keep up the PT and Ice a lot !!!

Good Luck everyone... we can lick this and get back to normal :)

Apr 08, 2011
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acl surgery 3/17/11
by: 39 year old male

About three weeks out. I can not get full extention. I am about -3 degrees. I can flex to about 110 degrees. PT is going well. I do backwards treadmill, box squats, monster walk with bands, leg press, and light stationary bike. I have very little pain and walk with my brace all day at work. I am required to wear a locked brace. I have my one month follow up visit on 4/13/11. Hopefully the doctor will let me wear something else. I was in great shape going into surgery. I hope that will translate into fast revocery. I find the locked brace causes additional atrophy to my quadrocep. I can't wait to get rid of it.

Apr 10, 2011
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Hey guys!
by: bcb

Hi! Been awhile since I've check the message boad here. Well It's been 4 months since I was cleared to run and go back to full activity (except for football.) Everything was going great till I over did it running one night. Now I get to let my strained arch and heel heal up. THAT SOOOOOO SUCKS!!! Hope everyone has been doing well. Only problem I have is numbness in my shin.. Finally been hitting the weights building my quads back to their glory days. That's it for me guys. Good luck, work hard and stay hungry for results!!!

Apr 11, 2011
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4 Months Post-Op
by: Anonymous

Dear all, a short update from my side, been practising BJJ 6 weeks post op but only light technical training, started training Crossfit two weeks ago, and am eagerly waiting for my doctors response on 18. April to tell me I can fight again.
Good luck to everyone and keep working hard but smart!!!

May 11, 2011
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Walking day 3 post op
by: Anonymous

I had my ACLr with side-side patellar ligament done May 2. It's May 11 and I'm at 0-127 degrees. Was off crutches and walking by day 3 post op, with 6-110 degrees of ROM and on the stationary bike. I think a big part of my success was spending every day 30-45 min. for a month on the bike before surgery and had full ROM and muscle control. BTW, I'm 46 and in fairly good condition... hope this helps.

Jun 07, 2011
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Lateral & Medial meniscus surgery ACL is next
by: Anonymous

I am 19 days post op for my lateral and medial meniscus surgery with a complication of a blood clot to top it off. I am very sad and frustrated. I have no money so I have to limit my PT apointments. I have been doing everything she told me to do and then some. I am not seeing the results that the PT said I should get. I was supose to be walking by now and driving and I cannot. I need to be able to walk because I need to work and bring in some money for bills. I am so stressed and not sleeping and the list goes on. I have read that lots of people are having similar struggles. Massage is not good because of the blood clot issues. I am sorry if I am whining, but I am out of positive thinking! Help

Notes: I am 41, alpine ski accident, still needing ACL surgery, just move to a new town, the job I moved here for did not want me after my knee injury. Unemployed and in a new state. Any ideas?

Jun 26, 2011
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Question about progress
by: Amber

So, I am 27 year old super active female and I am now 1 day shy of 6 weeks post op. I had ACL reconstruction using the hamstring autograft (straight up, no meniscal repair or scraping) on May 16th, after a rugby incident.

I am getting so frustrated because I am only getting about a 110 degree bend (assisted with strap) and can maybe push it to 90 on my own with no strap involved. On the stationary bike, I cannot yet do a full revolution on the pedals and am still only stretching it out.

As far as walking goes, I don't need my crutches anymore. I walk with a bit of a limp/hobble, but we are working on my relearning how to walk properly now, and it's going well. I can walk up stairs pretty easily, but I get tired out really fast (lack of muscle? I live on the 5th floor of a walk up building - no elevator), however I still have to take one at a time going down. My extension is pretty good, too. It just the bending/flexion.

My PT people are great and super kind, but I am scared that I am not making progress fast enough. They told me on Friday that I'm pushing the envelope and I need to really start getting more of a bend out of it. I am trying really hard and try to tolerate as much pain as I can and I am just scared because I don't see the "light at the end of the tunnel" for this and it feels like it's never going to give.


Is this something I should be concerned about? I've been told that if I'm not getting enough of a bend, that I will have to go back to my Dr. for a local anesthetic and they will bend the knee for me (which is something one wants to avoid). As it stands now, I have heard nothing from my doctor about having to even see him again after the stitches were removed several weeks ago (is that normal?).

Jun 26, 2011
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by: JR

6 month post surgery update

I have returned to tennis and ball hockey with no issues so far. I will wear a don joy3 brace for the first year.

Sep 15, 2011
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Don't give up!
by: Kim

ACL recovery takes time, patience and persistence. There will be days when you feel like you're getting nowhere and then you see an improvement. I'm almost two years out from an opposite knee patellar graft and five weeks out from a clean up arthoscopy. Extension is the most important. You can try this: whenever you can, start with five or ten minutes and work up, sit with your heel propped up, nothing under the knee. Let the weight of your leg and gravity work on extension. Eventually you can add a weight, not ON THE JOINT but just above the knee. It helps a lot. Good luck to everyone and DON'T GIVE UP!! ~Kim

Sep 26, 2011
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Knee injury
by: Clay

I'm 16 years old and Tore my ACL, lateral and medial meniscus and partially tore my MCL in football practice. 2 weeks and 3 days ago I had my surgery which they replaced my ACL With my patellar tendon. 1st week was unbearable only time I could ever get pain relief was when I would take my pills. 2nd week pain would ease day by day. As for now I barely take pills and pain is not that bad. Sleep is okay still toss and turn to get comfortable.
So far I've attended 5 PT sessions and seen amazing progress. I have 120 degrees flexion and about -6 on extension. During my PT I go through hell with muscle
Burring and pain then I come Home and do even more excersises. I'm working really hard and my days are filled with pain from PT. Compared to all the stories I've heard I am very thrilled with my results. I'm still locked in my brace and I'm walk completely without crutches. I see my doctor on the 4th week and hopefully I'm cleared to walk without the brace and drive.

Oct 21, 2011
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Flexibility
by: Anonymous

3 week PT visit after 1/3 patellar tendon ACL recon, I was at 130 flex and walking without a brace. Stationary I did full rotation w/o pain (it actually felt good) and rode my first mile since surgery.
Everybody is different as far as healing, scaring and recovery but the common denominator is... exercise. If you don't work on it outside if PT you're not doing yourself any good. I always had a habit of flexing most my joints throughout the day and doing strange muscle flexes while bored so I'm sure this has helped a lot as well. Just remember to do anything and everything they tell you. No pain, no gain. Never give the scar tissue a chance, start working your knee the day of surgery and everyday after. I started off on the CPM at 60 degrees as soon as I got home from surgery and increased it 5 degrees everyday until I got to 90 degrees and had my staples removed. From there I increased it 10 degrees everyday until it was maxed at 120 3 days later. 10 days, 120 degrees on CPM. Doctor and PT are very happy with the results so far.
Again, everybody is different but the key is to be consistent.

Feb 04, 2012
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Pain following ACL and Lateral Meniscus Repair NEW
by: Anonymous

Hi everyone!!

Really enjoyed reading everyone's comments. I had ACL surgery (hamstring graft) and lateral meniscus repair (where the meniscus was repaired as opposed to removed) about 2.5 months ago. However I am freaking out that I have retorn the stitches used to repair the meniscus. I am experiencing a lot of pain when I straighten my knee all the way. My doc said that the ACL is still very tight..so it's not that - but he said it could still be the meniscus. I was just wondering if anyone else was still experiencing such pain this far out following meniscus repair. Thoughts??


Feb 04, 2012
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It takes time NEW
by: Anonymous

Hi, I just wanted to tell you that ACL and meniscus surgery recovery takes time. I don't feel as if I had a realistic time-line when I had my surgery. I had ACL,(cadaver tendon) along with MCL and lateral medial mensicus removal. The fact that you had "repair" vs. "removal" repair is better in the long run but a longer recovery time.

My advice is to be diligent in your rehab, but DON'T push it. It is a fine line between pushing for rehab and pushing for your ego. Keep yourself in check.

Also, stretches and once you are cleared, epson salt baths and the pool will become your new best friend. The recumbent bike is also a very dear friend.

I had complications with my surgeries with developing a blood clot and Pulmonary embolism so my reciver tossed me into a completely different level. But either way. Take your time. You will get frustrated but don't let that temporary feeling mess up your rehab. At this time you are just one step away from messing things up. So be kind to yourself. honor your bodies healing process and when the time is right your body will tell you. Just learn to truly listen. Good luck with your next adventure, you will have many morfe it just takes time.

High fives and hugs all around!
MC


Mar 03, 2012
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What happened to me NEW
by: Anonymous

I tore my ACL, actually i completely ripped it apart & they had to use some of my hamstring to connect it again. I also torn my meniscus in four different places. My recovery time was about five months. But if you want to recover fast, you have to work hard at home!

Apr 05, 2012
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A great site NEW
by: Anonymous

I think this site is great for anyone with ACL injury. I'm 43 y/o female who injured my Lt acl/mcl/lateral meniscus w/femoral & tibial bone bruises a little more than a yr ago, resulted from a skiing accident. I had tried to rehab w/o a surgery but the knee seemed loose, painful, and tired easily. Besides, the same side foot/ankle seemed compensating from the problomatic knee.

Anyways, I had the acl reconstruction w/hamstring graft & removal of lateral meniscus a little more than 3 wks ago. Thanks to the femoral nerve block--I was pain- free until the mid of 2nd day. And, I was very miserable for the next 2-3 days from a lot of pain.

I stopped using a crutch on the 2nd day because I could bear weight on the foot. I started doing isometric exercises religiously, starting post-op day 2. It was pain wearing a knee immobilized for 2 wks. Since, I've been wearing a locked brace all the time except in bed.

I was able to flex 90 post-op day 1 but it's been a very slow progress since then. I had a 1st PT appt the 1 st day of 3 wk post- op. A PT measured 100 flexion/ 2 extension. Since the visit, I added some more exercises to ' wake-up' hamstring and it's already helping w/ my flexion quite a bit. Per PT, I continuously remind myself, " Don't give scars time to build up.". I exercise every 2-3hrs while awake and I think a staionary bike is very helpful to get a motion back as well.

I have next PT this Friday and hopefully, the flexion is close to 120 plus.

Apr 05, 2012
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A great site NEW
by: Anonymous

I think this site is great for anyone with ACL injury. I'm 43 y/o female who injured my Lt acl/mcl/lateral meniscus w/femoral & tibial bone bruises a little more than a yr ago, resulted from a skiing accident. I had tried to rehab w/o a surgery but the knee seemed loose, painful, and tired easily. Besides, the same side foot/ankle seemed compensating from the problomatic knee.

Anyways, I had the acl reconstruction w/hamstring graft & removal of lateral meniscus a little more than 3 wks ago. Thanks to the femoral nerve block--I was pain- free until the mid of 2nd day. And, I was very miserable for the next 2-3 days from a lot of pain.

I stopped using a crutch on the 2nd day because I could bear weight on the foot. I started doing isometric exercises religiously, starting post-op day 2. It was pain wearing a knee immobilized for 2 wks. Since, I've been wearing a locked brace all the time except in bed.

I was able to flex 90 post-op day 1 but it's been a very slow progress since then. I had a 1st PT appt the 1 st day of 3 wk post- op. A PT measured 100 flexion/ 2 extension. Since the visit, I added some more exercises to ' wake-up' hamstring and it's already helping w/ my flexion quite a bit. Per PT, I continuously remind myself, " Don't give scars time to build up.". I exercise every 2-3hrs while awake and I think a staionary bike is very helpful to get a motion back as well.

I have next PT this Friday and hopefully, the flexion is close to 120 plus.

Apr 06, 2012
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A great site NEW (part 2) NEW
by: Anonymous

Hello again,
I had my 2nd PT visit today and it was quite helpful. Though I didn't meet my goal 120+ flexion, but it came very close (115).

Today, a PT added some more exercises, such as hamstring exercise with an exercise ball, mini-squat & calf exercises while holding on to a kitchen sink. She was quite impressed that I don't seem to have any noticeable limp with walk. In the end, I was attached to electro therapy for about 20 min to stimulate the calf muscle.

Next week, I'll be adding a pool exercise as well. It means it'll be about 2 hr PT each time/2x a week.

If you're going to go through an ACL surgery, please make sure to condition your body beforehand. I really do believe that a healthier you are, the fast you'll be likely to recover. Even more, exercise on your own with a rigid schedule each day. As I mentioned in the previous comment, don't give you knee to any time to be stiffen up.

Apr 11, 2012
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6-8 weeks NEW
by: Alek

So i had a reconstructed ACL using a cadaver graph. I have been fine for the past 6 weeks but into week 7 i have begin to notice my knee is really lose, there is minimal swelling and not much inflammation of the knee. When i walk i feel it pop. I am really worried? Could i have tore the graph ACL again?

Apr 17, 2012
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I feel your pain, Alek. NEW
by: Anonymous

Hi Alek,
Hopefully, you already contacted your OS to address your problem. I'm also recovering from a recent ACL surgery w/hamstring graft. As of yesterday, it's been 4&1/2wks and I've been seeing a PT 2x/wk. My extension is at neutral (0--+2/+3) and my flexion is at 120 at this point. Yesterday, my PT worked me really hard on my hamstring so that I could improve my flexion to 125 sooner.

To address your question, if you already haven't seen your OS yet, it could be a few different reasons:1.Your surgeon's technique could be a reason why you're having a knee laxity 2.You probably have done something to your knee 3.It could be your knee muscles aren't strong enough to support your increasing activity.

Since I had 5 sessions with my PT, I've learned a few things from them. Though my OS asked me to wear a brace for 2 months, I'll definitely wear it for at least 3 months. Why? Because, especially with a hamstring graft, it takes at least 3 months for it to be revascularized and healed. Even so, it's not a good idea to twist your knee for 5-6 months to protect your new graft from an injury.

Hope you've found your solution. Take care.

Apr 30, 2012
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It also depends a lot on the injury NEW
by: M.F. 40 y.o. from Romania

I'm 4 weeks post op with 3-90 degrees of ROM pain free -when I wake up in the morning, and 0-115 with some pain after regular P.T. + many ROM exercises.
It's the ROM that worries me the most because according to the history of my injury it seems I'm the best candidate for arthrofibrosis -leading to either MUA or medial/lateral/posterior releases or both: 11 weeks ago I managed to have my ACL + both menisci torn + grade II tears MCL + LCL + grade I and II cartilage affected areas + bone contusions (fissures)
My ROM was 5-60 degrees. I could hardly bear my weight in a brace 1 week later, so the O.S. decided to have a plaster-cast or the brace fixed at 5 degrees for 3 weeks. I went to the office for another 5 weeks, but my ROM is exactly where it was: 5-60. I knew I had to have full ROM before surgery and tried really hard to improve it between week 4 and 6 after the injury without any progress, so I didn't wait any longer: just went to another O.S. for the 2nd opinion. He said it's a catch 22 he knows very well: you cannot do proper pre-op P.T. with such a complex injury.
It turned out after the op. that the torn ACL kind of entraped between the femoral condyles and would have impinged the patella: a reason in addition why full ROM pre-op doesn't always apply. In my case, trying to reach that, it would have only produced more damage to the cartilage and/or ligaments/tendons.

Good luck to every one!

May 09, 2012
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When does the pain stop? NEW
by: Anonymous

I am 7 weeks post op acl allograft. I have had full flexion since week 4 (foot touches my butt when PT stretches me)BUT I have 2 concerns. 1 is that I cannot do the leg press or squats without patella catching. Walking or getting up from a sitting position also catches. It's frustrating to feel that odd sensation of locking mid-stride! The 2nd is when does the pain at the drill site (just medial to the tibial tuberosity)finally stop? It still hurts to touch and gets swollen with exercise.

May 21, 2012
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Trouble with Extension NEW
by: Anonymous

I'm starting to get very scared and frustrated with my lack of extension. I'm 8 weeks out of ACL repair with a hamstring graft, meniscectomy (SP?), and some MCL damage. I can get a 132 degree bend on my own (about 138 with the P/T pushing) but have been stuck at 8 degree extension for 3 weeks. I have had a P/E so that slowed some progress down, the surgeon tells me people with clotting disorders also tend to be problematic with scar tissue, but still, I'm doing the P/T diligently but feeling like I'm treading water and starting to get very scared of not recovering fully and not being able to walk, dance, play tennis, etc. Today, I was able to go down stairs for the first time. But no matter what I achieve, I go home and cry out of frustration with the extension, which is more important.

My P/T has started me on standing calf stretches to help straighten and strengthen. I have great strength, and minimal pain (mostly in the back when extending and in front when bending). I also do the lying on my stomach on a bench with the knee and below off, weighted at the ankle. But still, I seem stuck and worry about disability. I'm 47, in great health, very athletic, and I just don't know what to do anymore. Does anyone have any positive messages about getting there, maybe not in 2 months, but over time? It seems folks are either "wow, I was completely fine in 3 days" or not fine at all, and this scare me.


May 27, 2012
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response to trouble with extention NEW
by: Anonymous

Hello,
it's good to know that there's one more person whom i can easily relate to. it's wk 9 for me this wk and i guess that you and i had the surgeries about the same time. my original injury was occurred a little more than a year ago from skiing (go figure) and it was quite extensive with complete acl/mcl tears, mild meniscus tear, and severe femoral condyle bone bruises in my left leg. i tried to rehab without the surgery for about a year but my active life style made my affected knee looser and looser each day.

Ever since the acl reconstruction with hamstring graft, my emotion has been on a roller coaster til week 6. my extension never hasn't been an issue for me but the flexion has been up to a certain point. I've been getting very aggressive PT and i'd liked to share something with you which may help you with extension (hopefully). when you're sitting/lying, make sure to have a couple of thick books under your heels (of course with your legs extended). i think this ritual greatly helped me with the extension (mine usually runs +2--+3). the other thing also you can do is hamstring stretches. my pt taught me a couple of different ways to relax hamstring muscles and it helped me greatly as well.

how's my nerves right now? right now, i'm alright because i know i'll regain all fuctions/strengths but i just have to be patient. yes, there are many days when my left knee doesn't feel strong enough, since i'm a surgery nurse on 10 hr shift. i think since this is the second time going through the rehab, i know what to expect/not to expect at this point of my recovery. everytime i go to the rehab, i get 2 sessions all the time; the first one is just regular one and the second one is water exercise. if you haven't been doing water exercise, i highly recommend it because it's very helpful.

right now, my flexion is 130 and i have 10 more degrees to gain and i'm not worried. please don't worry about it because you sound like you're a very good patient. just continue with pt as long as you can and the same time next year, you'll be smiling thinking' it was all worthed." hope i help to make you feel better.

Jun 11, 2012
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possibly re-injured? NEW
by: jason

Im 23 yr old going on 2 1/2 weeks after acl surgery. Back in 2009 I tore it the first time and got it fixed with the hamstring. awesome recovery. this time i did the cadaver. after week 1, i was able to walk on it with no pain at all. After week 2, it was getting a little sore with no swelling. Now 3 days after 2 weeks, it is really swollen and in pain when i bend it. i can barely walk on it. I dont know what happen but it its the most pain i have been it yet. I hoping i didnt re-injure it. If anyone has any expierence with this to please let me know. thanks

Aug 16, 2012
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Acl and meniscus surgery NEW
by: Teamtrina15

I had acl and menscus surgery 3 weeks ago. I am 34 and was at practice for Lingerie Arena Football when I hurt my left knee. I had a patellar graft for the acl and has lateral repair and partcial medial cut. I started physical therapy the very next day and almost in tears. I go three times a week and PT is a beast and I fight threw the pain. I have full exstition and at 90 degrees on at home CPM machine. I was prescribed norco for pain and ambien for sleep. I started taking two norco every 4 hours and know at 1 every 6-8 hours. I started taking ibeprohen for pain and is not help.. I go in morning to have sutchers remove and may ask for a 3 refill on pain meds...The first week was brutal but has gotten a lot better...so ready to walk with out crutches...If you live in Houston,Texas I recommend Dr Walter Lowe. He is very good and staff is amazing. Plus he is the head Physician for the Houston Texans, Houston Rockets and University of Houston Cougars.

Sep 13, 2012
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Allograft ( achille tendon) NEW
by: J B

one week after the surgery, doing fine, minimal pain and not much swelling. bending 122 and full extension. Walking without crutches from day 5
I just have one question I have bruises on my inner tight, has anyone else got those doing the allograft?

Feb 11, 2013
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3 1/2 weeks out of full ACL reconstruction surgery NEW
by: Sabrina Alfaro

I'm not going to say it was easy getting here to this point, because it wasn't. Some days it would feel like I took one step forward then two steps backwards. I'm a 18yr old reining horse champion and not being able to train my horses has been the most frustratingly painful thing involved with this surgery and recovery. I had an MRI done I tore my ACL and have total reconstruction of it, also the doctor suspected I had damages to my miniscus that needed to be scrapped out. I got a pain block before they checked the meniscus it was fine, then went on to my ACL I opted to use my own graph can't think of what my inside calf below my knee muscle is called and they strung it through the hole they made through my knee and tacked it down with dissolvable screws that will be no more in two years time. I'm personally use to my entire body aching not just my knee because of my normal 8hrs in a saddle 6 days a week, and the pain meds bring it down to that same slight ache of pain but if your not use to pain and dont have a tolerance it's a bugger! But hurting and not being able to ride irritates me so bad! I'm at 115 flex and 1- extend, stitches out and main incision site are in the pretty pink heal stage, my stitches look like they arent going to scar at all but the main incision is going to be slightly indented I put Mupirocin on all of it. It's a perscription gel that is magic! My crutches are going on Valentines and my leg brace goes a few weeks after. My knees actually feeling really good! Just iv lost muscle tone but I can stand and put all my weight on it comfortably just a tad wobbly without the cripple excessories. Pushing the bike peddle backwards and forward isnt a problem after the first time trying, first time in PT couldn't do it that well and it kinda hurt second time it was just stiff now its nothing practically normal. Oh! and the front of my shin is still kinda tingly but the doctor said that should leave, and the scar tissue isnt bad an the enternel bruising has all but gone. That's my progress in 3 1/2 weeks in I go to PT two times a week and do excercises religiously. Sleep is a battle that I've never fought before so my doc has told me its okay to take melatonin supplements because I was only getting 4hrs of sleep its gotten better though. I just want to be better soon so I can go to the horse shows and win the scholarship to Texas A&M show team but the doctor says its a little to ambitious of a goal and also the fact he doesn't want me to ride for a year, but ones got to at lest go for it!

Apr 13, 2014
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Frustrated beyond measure NEW
by: Anonymous

8 weeks post acl (cadaver) reconstruction after ACL/MCL skiing injury.

Aggressive physical therapy and committed to my home exercises. Took 6 weeks for me to walk without crutches, and 7 weeks to walk on my own, but still suffering from very limited flexion (110 degrees on a very good day) and -5 extension.

I was very active pre-injury and have been mentally worn down by the recovery process. I don't feel like I am progressing. My knee feels like cement, I walk with a limp and my tolerance for bearing weight on the knee is about 15 minutes.

I realize that I'm headed towards my ortho suggesting an MUA, but my rational side is telling me that letting someone re-injure my knee is crazy and counter-productive.

Thank you to everyone who has offered encouragement to keep the faith....I was completely unprepared for this challenge.


Nov 14, 2014
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4 Months after ACL NEW
by: Joseph

Hi Guys

im soo happy ive found this site, ive had ACL hamstring replacement 4 months ago and i feel pain when i bend my leg still at the back, is this uncommon. I am going gym 5 times a week and also running on the treadmill now for 10 minutes. How is everyone else doing.

Feb 20, 2015
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8 weeks post op[ NEW
by: Ashley

Hello, I had an acl graft from the patella tendon around 8 weeks ago. I was walking without crutches fully after 2-3 weeks and driving at that time to. I had full extension and small amount of hyper extension. And flexion was not far off my other leg. But had a flare up and now have bad pain with full extension and have lost hyperetension. Doctor said all is fine and graft is still intact but does cause me massive pain.Also felxion is greatly reduced and very painful.
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Mar 05, 2015
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Hey guys:
I am 63; 64 in July. I had an ACL reconstruction, radial menisectomy, shaving of bones like femur and tibia etcetera meaning the works just 6 weeks ago and now I am onto my seventh week and where I have started outside physical therapy twice a week for a 6 week perod as recommended by my doctor whom I met a couple of days ago. I am 3 degrees short of full extension and have about 117 degrees of flexion! My PT thinks I am doing remarkably well and said I am his oldest patient yet who has had this procedure done. He said he has a patient who is 35 years old who had this done who appears to be progressing slower than me but that's because I think I just happen to have lucked out so far! Incidentally guys I had a very old sports injury from 43 years ago and coming in was diagnosed with mild to moderate osteo arthritis, a torn medial ligament, ACL stump and torn meniscus needing repair. I was told by my doctor that though he expects I will get back to full functionality with ability to play light sports etcetera there may come a time when I may have to have a total or a partial knee replacement done in my lifetime if the osteoarthritis pain becomes severe. I certainly hope not and am keeping positive and doing everything right by following my doctor's advice and PT's instructions perfectly with no deviation. I now walk with one crutch and drive myself to PT and nearby places. I ice my knee with small plastic bottles of water which I find much better than ice packs as it provides a lot of flexibility in where they can be placed on my quadriceps, below my hamstrings and do not melt for a long time. My doctor expects me to be 100% in another 6 weeks time for most activities though it may take another 9 months after that for full recovery that includes my cadaver allograft becoming live tissue and becoming a part of my DNA. Cheers!

Oct 16, 2016
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acl and meniscus surgery(3 months post op ) NEW
by: rakesh

hey !! its been 3 months i didnt acheive my full range of motion after my acl & meniscus surgery .(hamstring graft )
i can only flex my knees upto 100 degree to 110 degree by my own and by support i can flex upto around 130 degrees.
and my extension is good i think i can fully straight my knees, hyper extension is not acheived totally because my unoperated legs extension is more the normal people .
strenght is ok :i can walk normally .
and theres is hardness beneath my scar on my petellar region.
i use both heating and cooling therapy (heating before exercise and after iceing .
so is there any poblem in my rehab or every thing is going fine .?
thankyou

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