Question - Biceps Tenotomy (pain after surgery)

I have had chronic right shoulder pain for 3 years due to a left shoulder fusion. I had my shoulder scoped two years ago and all they found was some significant bursitis issues. They cleaned the joint up but I continued to have pain.

I had a bicep tenotomy and some more clean up 3 weeks ago but am in more pain then ever. They did this surgery for a faster recovery but I am now not able to roll over in bed or get dressed.

Is this pain common?

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Jul 20, 2008
It is very common pain...
by: Bart - SII

Pain after a biceps tendon procedure is usually fairly significant - this is because of the work done to the tendon, as well as the bone work.

It should continue to get better as you progress from your surgery date, but it is common to have pain for several weeks.

Hope this helps - comment back with other questions.

Jul 22, 2008
Comment
by: Anonymous

Even with a tenotomy? They did no work to the bone...just soft tissue.


Jul 22, 2008
I misread...
by: Bart - SII

Sorry, I misread tenotomy and was thinking tenodesis. That involves attaching the biceps tendon to the humerus.

Either way, the biceps can be a very un-cooperative muscle after surgery - part of the reason is because it is on an almost constant stretch because of its attachment. Second, it is a very used muscle with any type of shoulder activity.

Even with soft tissue work alone, it is common to have pain for several weeks. And the shoulder is known to be a very "achey" joint, especially after surgery.

Hang in there - it should get better. Just keep up with your rehab and physicians instructions.

Bart

Jan 30, 2009
LEFT SHOULDER SURGERY REGRET
by: Anonymous

I HAD SURGERY TO MY SHOULDER FOLLOWING A CAR ACCID,I TRULY REGRET THIS SURGERY.I HAVE CONSTANT PAIN THE MEDICATIONS ARE NOT HELPING ME,I HAVE BECAME VERY DEPRESS BECAUSE OF THIS SURGERY. I LOST MY JOB DUE TO WHAT MY FORMER EMPLOYER STATED THAT I COULD NO LONGER PERFORM,I LOST HOPE CAN'T GET A JOB.SOMETIME I WISH I WAS DEAD THAN TO BE HERE SUFFERING LIKE THIS EVERYDAY.I WAS TOLD I HAD POST LABRIUM TEAR AT THE CRITICAL ZONE, MUTI-DIRECTIONAL INSTABILITY,ALL I SEE AND FEEL IS PAIN.

Mar 27, 2009
This is to the person who has lost all hope
by: Anonymous

Wow, i just read your comment. I fell at work and tore both my rotator cuffs. that's right both of them. They laid me off immediately after my surgery (one of my two surgeries). I made 50,000 a year, is not a lot to some, but paid my bills. You can never let the actions of others take away your joy in life. You must find something else to do, get healthy. Look at this as an opportunity to do something else, learn something else. If you start to feel sorry for yourself, you will sink even lower. Just smile an move on. No loss of job, house, friends, etc are ever worth giving up on your own life. Find a new job, new friends, new place to live if necessary. I'm in pain most of the time, I just don't let it stop, it will probably never get better, so i just keep moving, doing things that bring me joy. You should too!!

Apr 13, 2009
Biceps tenotomy
by: Anonymous

I had a biceps tenotomy 3 weeks ago. It is still painful but I guess as expected. I thought that I was just having a sub acromial decompression and excision of a bony spur. I did not know that I would have the tendon cut. What I can't find out is - what happens to the long head of the biceps that is cut? Is it removed or just left hanging around? Does that mean that the biceps is now totally dependent on the short head tendon? In another 3 weeks I have to decide whether to have the other one done too.

May 01, 2009
BICEPS TENOTOMY/FULL THICKNESS ROTATOR CUFF REPAIR
by: Anonymous

Surgery 6 1/2 wks ago started "active" ROM excercises this week. Planned on returning to work ( work in hospital emergency room), but found out they will not release me yet. Although...having SO MUCH pain..don't really see how I thought I was going to do that! :)
Anyone out there with same surg know approx how long before the pain gets better? (tell me some good news)Thanks

May 05, 2009
Bicep Torture!
by: Anonymous

Sorry for not provided any good news...my surgery was in June of last year and I am still struggling with pain. Been getting cortisone shots every 6 wks for the last 6 months. This surgery was a bad decision on my part. Hope yours is not on the same track!

May 12, 2009
Bicep Tenotomy
by: D

Had Rotator Cuff tear 85 % repair, Bicep tenotomy, and sub acromial decompression and grinding off of bony spurs on 3-27-2009 (right arm and right arm domminat). Developed the Popeye Tendon. I have worked through getting back to work (work at a desk and computer all day). Still have pain; not as severe. Still using ice packs daily. The new problem is the trapezious muscle having spasams. The Doc prescibed muscle relaxor and a tens unit. The tens unit really helps with the spasams. It has been six weeks. I will keep working through this ordeal. The physical therapist says I am doing great. But really, I am weak as a kitten! I do not think I can pick up anything more than a pound without the assistance of my left arm. Someone told me this is a Two Year recovery....ugh

May 21, 2009
Tenotomy (7-months post op)
by: Kinu

I had 3 rotator cuff tears debrided in June 2008, didn't get better, sent to second surgeon in Oct. 2008 had second surgery for shredded bicep that was released. It's now May 2009. I've made 96 visits to Physical therapy in the past year. YES I have been very good about doing all the exercises. My range of motion is great, strength is good but still have pain in bicep and at deltoid insertion. I missed little work since I can "make it work". Surgeon basically told me yesterday he could not do anything else for me. He has no idea why I still hurt. I'm a band director, I need my arms to work without pain so I can enjoy my job. Surgeon suggested pain management doctor but to me that seems like I need to go to a shrink. Or I can go to a 3rd surgeon. I have no idea what to do. I just want to do my job and enjoy doing it. Any suggestions?

Jun 09, 2009
Trigger Points
by: Anonymous

Look to the exciting world of trigger points. Im a physiotherapist in the UK and have treated hundreds of patients following shoulder surgery. And i guarantee that everyone one who has had shoulder surgery has these trgger points - which are tights bands of muscle which can refer pain. When treating patients after shoulder surgery i always assess trigger points because these are the muscles that may now be causing you pain, especially if your 3 - 6 months post surgery with no relief. Most common trigger point locations are at the infraspinatus muscle which refers pain down the front of the shoulder and arm - all patients post shoulder surgery will have this active trigger point. Subscapularis trigger point also. I would strongly recommend you try this approach as i have had great results with this approach, especially in patients where pain continues to be an issue - months post op

Jun 23, 2009
Pain
by: Anonymous

I had biceps tendon repair June 2008. I am still in so much pain. I was trying to see if anyone else had this problem. I cant even pick up a cup of coffee without pain. I hope this isnt forever.

Jul 04, 2009
Shoulder Surgery
by: Anonymous

On 5/5/09, I had surgery for a complete tear in my rotater cuff, shaving of a calcium deposit and a completely frayed bicep tendon. The dr. had to completely sever the tendon and wasn't able to reattach it to the bone.

I am in therapy 3x/week(this is my 5th week of therapy and 9 weeks post-op). Here it is July 4th and I am miserable with pain. Heating pad, ice packs...I have to do my home exercises but when I do, I am in 10x more pain.

I don't know how long to expect to be feeling like this and I am really getting depressed. I had to back-out of a 4th of July "outing" just because I knew that I would be miserable.

I just keep getting told that it's going to take a white. Next week, it will have been 9 weeks post-op. I cannot believe I still have any pain!

Jul 05, 2009
biceps tenotomy pain
by: Anonymous

Hi, I had a rotator cuff repair, A/c revision, subacromial decompression, and this horrible tenotomy. there is no pain in my shoulder but I have horrible pain in my arm, elbow and wrist. I am trying to be patient because it will just be a week on Tuesday but I can't believe how severe the pain is....I am sorry to hear of others in so much pain...I have ace bandages which I think are adding to the pain but they are hoping to avoid the deformity.

Jul 13, 2009
Biceps Tenotomy surgery Feb 23, 2009
by: Anonymous

I would like to address the posting of "Biceps Tenotomy/full thickness Rotator Cuff Repair". I had surgery on Feb. 23, 2009 & I am still having a great deal of pain. Sorry for this news. However, I believe I will get better. I too work in the ER;as an RN in the ER. On Sept 3, 2008 I was rear-ended by a motorist doing approx. 80 mph. I believe the mechanism of injury is causing the delay for my healing. I could be wrong, but I don't think so. I had surgery on my other shoulder 18 mos ago, & it healed great. My problem-right shoulder procedure a tenodesis was performed, & on my left, tenotomy procedure. For me the time to heal is almost the same now, but more problems with the tenotomy procedure. My biceps has spasms that are excruciating, & I wonder if I could now have the surgery repeated & have the procedure tenodesis done? Please if anyone HAS experienced this dilemma, let me know. Thanks. I want to return to work!

Jul 22, 2009
Bicep Tenotomy
by: Beetle

I am a 52 year old male. On 6/15/09 I received RC Surgery for a fall off a ladder 3 years prior. On Post-op visit I was informed by intern (Doc not there) the surgeon also performed a Biceps Tenotomy. I was not aware of this prior to surgery to have a choice in the matter. I am very upset as I do manual labor and also in weight-lifting. I see the Dr. next week. Can I still get a Tenodesis performed or too late? It will have been 7 weeks. If not able, how will I fare at work and weight-lifting? If there is anyone out there to help me in this area please comment. Thank you.

Aug 13, 2009
Surgery coming soon!
by: Anonymous

I have been reading all the comments and stories of others and I have to say Im a little worried. I have a Bicep Tenotomy surgery coming up in three weeks. My shoulder has been in pain for 14 years after the police Academy and Custody and Control training. All they could find on the MRI is Bicep tendon problem.
Now Im reading all the following problems people are having, concerned about the surgery?! Wondering if the pain will be more or less after the surgery?

Aug 13, 2009
Biceps tenotomy
by: Anonymous

Hi, I am one of the people who was miserable immediately after a bunch of procedures including a biceps tenotomy ( two rotator cuff tears, subacromial decompression and the biceps all at once).

I am now 6 weeks past the surgery and have no biceps pain, and the rehab is going really well. It turned out to be referred pain from the shoulder and was aggrivated by the sling ( which I had already been in for 12 weeks after another surgery at the other end of my collarbone.)

My surgeon ,who is exceptional, told me that John Elway won a superbowl after his biceps tenotomy.

So hopefully you will have a good result, too.
I bet many people are like me and search and post stuff when they are miserable and then get better and move on and you don't hear the whole story.

Good luck with your surgery. ( oh, and I didn't get the deformity that you hear about either. The ace bandages/compression sleeve prevented it.)

Aug 15, 2009
Shoulder Pain
by: Jax

Sitting here on my laptop looking for a website that would tell me why i'm still having pain in my shoulder 9 weeks after surgery, havent found any answers.
I had a subacromial decompression and also the bicep had to be disected as it had attached itself to scar tissue. Im still experiencing a burning sensation down the front of my arm and the pain is driving me mad.
Physio was a complete waste of time for me. Cant do the exercises when my I have pain and I feel like my arm is a dead weight. HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Aug 18, 2009
Biceps Tenotomy
by: Beetle

This is addressed to Biceps Tenotomy by Anonymous Aug. 13,2009.
I chose not to have my bicep reattached after RC Surgery per Doctor's strong recommendation. He said too many patients complain of pain with limited ROM. You stated you do not have the deformity associated with a tenotomy procedure because you wore an Ace Bandage. This was not ordered as part of my recovery. It is now 8 weeks post-op and I have the (popeye arm) look, extremely weak and in a lot of pain with cramping in bicep. I do manual labor and was into weight-training. I wonder if Ace Bandage could help me at this point in time to correct deformity and speed up recovery? I am still amazed the Dr. performed a tenotomy when tendon was only 25% frayed and without my consent. Any reply welcome. Thank you.

Aug 21, 2009
Shoulder cuff tear and tendonesis
by: eva

I have had a cuff tear on my right shoulder plus tendonesis was done of the byceps tendon 9 weeks ago I am without pain at all times My right arm down to my elbow is still discoloured I have been having physio but there is a lot of the exesises I find difficult to do specially lifting my arm up it feels dead weight I am a district nurse and would like to get back to work but I dont know how long this will take to get better has anyone have a same problem?

Sep 04, 2009
Self Tentomy
by: Arnold

I snapped off my long head bicep tendon playing tennis. Immediate I noticed my normal shoulder pain went away. It's been a week since I tore it off and there is still no return of shoulder pain. However, I have bicep pain and it can be quite severe. It seems to be subsiding each day. I am willing to accept the bulge but I read on this forum some are using a bicep sleeve. Where do you get it? I am using an tennis elbow sleeve over the bicep. It seems to make it feel a lot better.

Sep 06, 2009
compression after biceps tenotomy
by: Anonymous

Hi, I am the one who originally had the ace bandages from wrist to shoulder after biceps tenotomy, two rotator cuff repairs, subacromial decompression, and clavicle resection- all arthroscopically on the same day. The compression sleeve which was much easier to deal with came from my physical therapist.....they had a long roll of it and just cut sections off of it to fit my arm.

It is now almost week 10 and all the bicep pain is gone and I still don't have the defect and I haven't been using compression on it for a few weeks now. (I had horrendous elbow pain initially and now have no pain at all in that area.)

I have to say that the biceps tenotomy recovery is alot easier than the rotator cuff and clavicle resection recovery. I was upset about the biceps intially but have no complaints now.





Sep 22, 2009
how long has everyone been out of work
by: Kathy

I am a first grade teacher and I had the full thickness tear in Dec repaired but I never got better. I just now had the biceps tenotomy done a week ago. My shoulder is very weak and painful. I also have a lot of pain in my neck from the nerve block. I started PT yesterday and it was difficult. Did I start PT to fast?
How long have most of you been out of work?

Sep 23, 2009
Out of work
by: Beetle

I had RC Surgery with Bicep Tenotomy on 6-15-09. As of 9-23-09 I am currently not back to work. Doctor said it will be a total of 6-8 months before he releases me back to work. I am just now getting strength back and pain starting to deminish. Hope this has been helpful.

Sep 23, 2009
return to work
by: Anonymous

Wow...I had 2 fully torn rotator cuff tendons, biceps tenotomy, subacromial decompression, and a distal clavicle resection on 6/30 and went back to work after 2 weeks (in the sling) ...part time, then full time about 2 weeks after that. (I got a ride to the train since I couldn't drive- the commute was the worst part of going back) ...I still can't really lift anything but fortunately my job doesn't involve any lifting and it has been good to be back.

I have great range of motion now and am finally going to be able to start the strength training phase next week...Good luck to everyone...

Sep 23, 2009
Bicep
by: Anonymous

All they did was cut my bicep tendon. I didn't drive for 6 month but was able to work as a special ed teacher 3 months after surgery. It was suppose to be a easy surgery but turned out to be a nightmare. I continue to have pain but I also have Cerebral Palsy!

Sep 25, 2009
bicepts tenotomy
by: Kathy

OPERATIONS: Left shoulder arthroscopy, debridement, biceps tenotomy, subacromial decompression, AC joint resection.
These were all the things I had done. My doctor just said I would probably be home about 3 months. I was out 6 months last year with the rotator cuff. I have an 85 mile commute that I drive and I don't think I could do it everyday.
Thanks for the replies. I guess I will have to wait and see.

Oct 08, 2009
Supraspinatus tear and biceps tenotomy
by: TB

I'm a 53 year old male and have have three shoulder surgeries over the last 13 years. I suspect that you will have to look a long time to find someone with more shoulder surgery experience than me. The injuries are primarily from ice hockey goaltending and dirt biking.

For my most recent on September 8, 2009,(fully arthroscopic)they repaired a full thickness supraspinatus tear, a 50% infraspinatus tear and a 90% biceps tendon tear. My first surgery in 1996 was also on the right side but is was far less complicated - an acromioplasty. The second surgery was in 2007 on my left shoulder and they repaired a torn supraspinatus and infraspinatus tendon - that was done with a mix of open and arthroscopic procedures.

Every procedure has been totally different. The first one which appeared "simple" was extremely painful to rehab and it took about 6 months. The second procedure took a long time to fully rehab -about 18 months but it as good as new today. For the latest procedure, I was in a sling for 4 weeks and was worried about atropy and loss of range of motion (ROM). To my amazement, while I had some atrophy, my ROM was nearly intact. I have 90% ROM today and have not started PT yet - that begins tomorrow.

My best advice for this procedure is to use a polar cuff (about $225 - insurance did not cover mine), get a good recliner and try to stay away from the Lortab and related narcotics. They gave me 90 of the 7.5mg. Lortab for my latest procedure and I took about 10 of them immediately post-op. They made me feel like crap and I hated the side effects - dry mouth, dysphoria and constipation, even with fiber. Continue to ice per MD direction, especially after rehab starts and work hard on ROM because frozen shoulder sucks - I had a buddy with that in 2007 after his surgery.

I read a lot of dire comments on the message board and I cannot say that I ever encountered any of the dramatic pain, loss of work or misery outlined by others. It's important to keep in kind that this is relatively simple stuff compared to ailments like cancer or MS and that should be your focus. It will get better. I missed 3 days of work after surgery and got right back at it the following week. I was amazed to read of people taking 3 or 6 months off for these procedures. It's just not that big of a deal unless you have a super low pain threshold or enjoy being a drama queen.

Don't kid yourself, there are NO short cuts - you have to do the PT and rehab work vigilantly and you simply have to take the pain. Don't be a dummy and start sucking down Lortabs or Percocet because you feel a little uncomfortable. All that does is create and new and potentially larger problem down the road.


Oct 08, 2009
Reply to TB
by: Beetle

Thanks for your input. You seem to be very informed about your procedures and recovery. That is a good thing. Unfortunetly, I was not at the time of my surgery. Needless to say it was quite a surprise at Post-Op appointment to find the Dr. performed a LHB Tenotomy without my knowledge. I do repetitive manual labor and was active in weight-lifting. My situation is that my annual PT visit's are exhausted. I only had 12 visits of PT. I am currently going thru appeals. Until then I am doing home therapy. I am currently going into 4 months recovery and slowly gaining strength and ROM. I was wondering how long before fully able to return to previous life-style? I do agree with you that this is not life threatening as some injuries but does require adjustments in life. Thanks again for input. Beetle

Oct 11, 2009
9 days post op biceps tenodesis surgery
by: Dee

I am about 9 days post op for Bicep Tendon Surgery. Overall, I am doing pretty good during the day but the nights are hard. I don't believe in torturing myself so when I wake up with incredible pain, I take two sibuphrohen, a percacet and put my heating pad on. I then wait for sleep since I have started back to work and like to feel alert. I also got in a mild workout today. Did a light run and walk on the treadmill. Felt good to be back at they gym. Plan on working hard but I am dreaking phyiscal therapy since moving my arm seems to "wake it up"! The night after my first post op appointment where my doctor moved it around was worse then day after surgery! But if I want full motion back, I am going to have to work through the pain and trust my doctor.

Oct 11, 2009
post op
by: kathy

Well it's 4 weeks since my surgery and although it's a little better I am still in pain without pain medication. I only take it in the morning so I can function. My dr says I will be home for 3 months and at first I thought that was a long time but now I know why. Some people do handle pain differently. I have had about a dozen different surgeries and I have recovered better with some than others. I think everyone is different and this forum just gives us a chance to see what everyone else experiences. Shoulder surgery I think is more difficult because we are constantly moving our shoulders.

Oct 11, 2009
Kathy
by: Anonymous

kathy,
Curious, what did you have done? I kind of question if I returned to work too soon. You are correct, everyone is different and everyone handles pain differenlty.

Oct 12, 2009
to anonymous
by: Anonymous

I had Left shoulder arthroscopy, debridement, biceps tenotomy, subacromial decompression, AC joint resection. I thought I was going in for a rotator cuff repair but I had all of this instead. I went online to a bunch of sites and most say recovery is 6 to 8 months just for the bicepts tenotomy so being out 3 months sounds about right.

Oct 12, 2009
Re: Kathy
by: Anonymous

I too thought it was going to be rotator. I didn't have as much work. I did have some spurs removed which could be adding to my discomfort. I know this is a slow process so I am trying to just remember to be patient. Hope you're recovery goes well.

Oct 13, 2009
Anonymous
by: Kathy

I wish you the best in your recovery also. Physical therapy is very important in the healing process. I started a week after the surgery. It's going slow but helping me.

Oct 15, 2009
Bicep Tenotomy
by: Beetle

From all the reply's, it seems Bicep Tenotomy's is a common procedure for RC Surgery. My question is why? With all the claims of state of the art technology, grafts and graft jackets, stem cells and the ability to regrow heart muscle, why can't Dr.'s save the LHB tendon? I am no expert on the subject, although I am learning more as I do research. In my opinion I think it is just an easy fix for the surgeon. If there is anyone who could provide some input on this matter, I would be open here it. Perhaps an Orthropedic Specialist could reply. My tendon was only 25% frayed and the surgeon chose to cut it off. That meant it was still 75% good. It seems a dissappoint to lose something if it can be saved. Again this is my thoughts.
Thank you.

Oct 16, 2009
Frozen Shoulder too
by: Anonymous

I had my tendon cut and moved to a better position two weeks ago but the phyiscal therapy report stated in addition, I had a bone spur removed and adhesive capilities AKA frozen shoulder. My doctor also removed scar tissue during surgery. I am miseral in PT and they tell me the only way to get better is to put my self through more pain via 4 - 5 sets of exercise to break through the scar tissue. I am so discouraged and am officially depressed. I rarely get more than 5 hours of sleep and I feel a some level of discomfort 24/7. I feel alot of pain during the night and early morning. If I take a pain pill which I relunctlantly end up doing to get back to sleep work is a long day and I can't usually find the energy to work out. It a difficult cyclel. Thanks for letting me vent. My friends and boyfriend just don't get it which makes me feel even more isolated. I am usually such a positive person.

Oct 17, 2009
frozen shoulder
by: Kathy

I had frozen shoulder on my last operation and I went in to have a manipulation under anesthesia. It broke up scar tissue and did make pt easier.
I to have a hard time sleeping. I take a pain pill in the morning and one at night and that's it. I was trying to take just one a day but it was very difficult. I got up this morning in a lot of pain and tried heat first but I think I will have to take something for pain. I even have pain in my fingers.
People who haven't been through it can say it's easy and for some people it's easier than others. I know right now there is no way that I could go back to work.
Keep up PT and if it's difficult talk to your doctor about the manipulation. You are alseep and they manipulate your shoulder to try and break up the scar tissue.

Oct 19, 2009
Kathy
by: Anonymous

Do you know how you got the frozen shoulder? I think I got mine from the bicep problem. I know you can get it from surgery but I had the adhesive capularies when they went in to fix the bicep tendon. My Phyiscal Therpaist did talk to me about the manuipulation if things don't improve. It jus sounds awful but I hear alot of possitive stuff about it. I take a pain pill at night and 1/2 early morning. I also need 1/2 a few hours after PT. I do massages, ice, heat, electrical stiumulation and utrasound. Some days i feel like I'm getting better and then I feel like it tightened up again.

Oct 19, 2009
anonymous
by: Kathy

Yeah sometimes I feel better than others too. The last time with the rotator cuff I just had no range of motion no matter what I did. Now I have more range of motion but still have a lot of pain especially in my scapula. It's very painful and that's what the physical therapist usually works on. The manipulation does help and I am glad I did it. I still had problems and they operated again and found the bicep tendon frayed so they just cut it. I don't see how I can work with the pain right now but the dr my job sent me to thinks I can use my right arm so they are sending me to their own orthopedist. I take one pill every morning and sometimes later on depending how bad I feel.
Good luck
Kathy

Oct 23, 2009
going for tenotomy.
by: Anonymous

I am suppose to go for a tenotomy when workmans comp approves it.Iwas wondering after reading these post Do you have to go through pt and wear a sling ? I was under the impression from my Dr. and case manager, they would cut it and I would be good to go.I had a Type II slap repair 2 anchors,subcromial decompression,and glenoid debidement in Jan 2008.The dr"s said tenotomy was much quicker recovery.After this post I'm not sure.
Thanks

Oct 23, 2009
Tenotomy
by: Kathy

I have heard people who recovered quickly and then others took longer. I did it 6 weeks ago. I am still in pain and not back to work. I have to see an orthopedist from my job next month. My dr. wanted me home until Dec but I don't know if the workmens comp dr will agree. I was only in a sling a few days and started pt after a week. My range of motion is ok but I still have pain.

Oct 29, 2009
Anonymous/Kathy
by: Beetle

I had RC Surgery with Bicep Tenotomy on 6-15-09. I am still weak with alot of pain in the teres and bicep tendon. Although the Dr. cut the tendon, he left it in the bicep groove. He said it will be 6-8 months before he considers releasing me for work. However, each person heals differently. I am typically a slow healer. I hope this info will help answer your concern.

Jun 08, 2010
Bicept Tenotomy n scared.
by: C in CT

Hello. I am C, 44 yrs. old and active at work, in which I open n closed steal door, Correction Officer, garden, children, very active. I had surgery June 29, for subcrominal impingement, bone spur, degeneration and fluid in the bursa sac according to the MRI. I have been going to therapy for about 8 months and unfortunatly it has not been helping,making it worse and painful, I get spasms and swelling. Now I have pain the the bicep and clavical, feeling like I have an impingement very painful. I refuse to take meds except when it is damp n raining. I will be going for surgery Friday, June 11 for Bicep Tenotomy. According to what the Doctor tells me, she will be cutting my long tendon and is going to screw it into by bone. Open mind for any advise n suggestions. Thankyou.

Jun 09, 2010
Rotator cuff tear left arm
by: C in CT

Hello, I had surgery to 3 yrs ago to the left rotator cuff from a car accident. The surgery went well but very painful for a few weeks, but that is the norm. You definitly have to sleep in a lazyboy chair for a few days. (Sorry) I did physical therapy about 6 months or more. I sometimes experience pain when I lift up my arm and put my hand behind my head when laying down and then I put it down. I am careful with what I do. Other than that I feel ok. Good Luck.

Jun 17, 2010
Reply to C in CT
by: Beetle

If the surgeon is reattaching your LHB Tendon, you will be receiving a Tenodesis. Please let me know how you do. I wanted surgeon to reattach mine but strongly advised against it. Look back a my comments after June 15,2009. At least you know ahead of time what surgeon is going to do. It was a shock for me, not knowing. I am still not back to work. My RC tore again. I wish you well in your recovery. Take your time and don't rush it. Listen to doc. Beetle

Jun 18, 2010
bicep tenotomy
by: Kathy

I had bicep tenotomy last Sept and I still cannot lay on that side. I have a hard time doing anything overhead also. Not sure what my next move will be. Good Luck.

Jun 18, 2010
Interval
by: Anonymous

I orginally wrote this post almost 2 years ago following a tenotomy. It took me 6 months to regain the use of my arm. I am a uncommon case in that I have Cerebral Palsy and a left shoulder fusion but am very active. I continued to have pain and catching in my shoulder so a week ago they scoped my shoulder again to see if the bicep tendon was hung up somewhere in the joint (it never retracted down) but what they found is a tear in my rotator interval, they closed it half way and after a week I have not nearly the pain I had two yrs ago!! Hopeful this does the trick!

Jun 20, 2010
In excruciating pain
by: C from CT

Hello, I had my surgery on June 11, 2010. I had Bicep Tenodesis and scar tissue removed from my clavical. The doctor did microscopic on the outward shoulder then in by the underarm and removed scar tissue from my clavical. I am in excruciating pain. Not happy at all. I will be going to therapy for the first time on Monday and I am not looking forward to it. I am in so much pain from my clavical down to my bicep, entire arm. I take my medication and I am still in pain. This is the most painful surgery I have ever had. Not a happy camper at all but needed it to be done. Good Luck.

Jun 22, 2010
Pain after tenotomy
by: Redcanuck

I had a left shoulder tenotomy April 30. Surgery through scope was no problem - virtually no pain after surgery while in sling. Excruciating pain has developed with small movements- putting seatbelt on , flipping my pillow over - it feels like it did before surgery only worse.

See surgeon next week - am looking for advice on what questions to ask or anyone elses experience.

Jun 22, 2010
slap repair,r/c repair,tenetomy.
by: Anonymous

I originally had surgery for a s.l.a.p repair with 2 anchors on Jan 2009,I went through all the hoops,pt the whole 9 yards,It never got better,Dr, told me it was a pain anxiety,since I was worried about my job,he said there was nothing wrong with the shoulder,I went through this for 10 months,
I did the injury at work so I was appointed a case manager ,she sent me for an ime,their Dr. said" it needed another surgery",My Dr, still disagreed,so I went to a shoulder specialist,He agreed there was something not right,so I had a second surgery in Mar 2010,he found a tear in the rotator cuff,the LHB was completely frayed so he had to do a tenetomy,a bone spur and believe it or not the s.l.a.p. repair had not even healed,
I have been dealing with this injury for 2 years,I was in the sling for 8 weeks,I had a great deal of pain in the bicep,until I got the sling off,then it was fine.I have started pt last week,it hurts like heck,but I'm so ready to get this incident done and over with.I have a lot of pain,reaching ,pushing in drawers,but I'm confident it will get better.
I have lost my job,due to the time that this has taken,I am so glad I went for a second opinion,hopefully now I can mend.My future is not known but I'm keeping a positive attitude.
I know that no matter how this surgery comes out I will not have another one...the pain has been to much,the shoulder specialist said it would take a full year before the pain was actually gone. so I'm hanging in there!

Jul 22, 2010
Biceps Tenotomy
by: rwolfe

My husband (who is 61 next month) had Biceps Tonotomy, Subacromial Decompression, Labral Repair and torn Rotator Cuff surgery july 1. Can anyone say how much strength he will lose after all this? He is on worker's comp for now, but the company he works for is so cheap they want him on "Light Duty" so they don't have to pay the worker's comp amount and he can sit in a chair 8 hours a day "answering the phone or something". The surgeon is a "paid gun" for tyson. We aren't stupid. He has also had both hips replaced (right in 2004, and left in 2009), so this shoulder thing made that much worse for him.

Jul 23, 2010
thats what iI had done
by: Anonymous

I had that same thing done in Mar 2010,I too am on workmans comp,I've been on physical therapy for 6 weeks and slowly it is getting better,Dr, said pain may last an entire year,the actual repair takes 6 to 8 months to completely heal.Rotators are very difficult to repair,the 1 st surgery can easily be torn out,I've had 2 surgery's,won't have a third,more pain than I can stand.
My doctor released me to light duty 1 week after surgery,but my job would not allow me to return with any restrictions,so I lose my job on Aug 1,I would of greatfully gone back to work to not lose my job,Living on wc stinks,everything I do must be approved by them,My family wanted to take a vacation this week and I was told by wc they would hold me in non-compliance if I went,and I would lose my benefits,so I will stay home this year.
I wish your husband the best,it takes a long time to feel better,and I remember the pain he is going through,Hang in there!

Aug 03, 2010
Facing poss tenotomy
by: Mary

Hi. Nov 2009 I had a massive Supraspinatus tendon tear repaired, a subacromial decompression, and a S.L.A.P. lesion repaired all arthroscopic. I was in the abduction sling for 8 weeks and had therapy for 7 months. Everything was going well and was off all pain meds until resistance exercises were started in May. I now have anterior should pain with painful catching and Pectoralis Maj muscle spasms. My Dr. says it's biceps tendonitis due to the fact that he left the biceps intact even tho it was inflamed. He gave me a cortisone shot into the tendon itself, I'll be having more therapy for phonophoresis with steroidal cream and possibly iontophoresis with steroids in the hopes it will decrease the inflammation so I don't have to have a Tenotomy. My Dr. said that it is quite common to do a Tenotomy or Tenodesis with RTC repairs as the biceps tendon is usually involved secondary to it's close proximity with the RTC

Aug 04, 2010
R/C Repair and LHB Tenotomy
by: Beetle

I have been reading all the recent R/C and Tenotomy surgery results. I too am still off work after one year recovery. My R/C tore again shortly after starting PT. Dr. said nothing more he can do, but released me to light duty after 8 months recover. However, since this is not a work related injury my employer will not take me back. Fortunetley, I paid into a LTD plan at work, that is paying 60% of my 40 hr. a week wages. Keeps food on table, and wolves away from my door. Beginning October, I have to pay for my own Health Insurance thru the COBRA plan. I have retained an attorney to handle my situation. I suggest to all to do likewise if possible. I have pain and weakness in left arm compared to right. I would say it is 30% weaker.

Sep 21, 2010
Eight years to retirement
by: Anonymous

In july of 2009 went to hospital from work with severe pain in right arm and shoulder...1 year and three mris later had surgery "scope and hope" on sept 10. 2010. The Dr. did a biceps tenotomy and acromiplasty. Still have quite alot of pain but starting pt next week. My case worker seems to think that in four weeks I will be as good as new and will be able to return to work. I am a 53 year old woman and do physical labor for employment. I had a rotor cuff surgery on left shoulder in 2001 and returned to work 6 mths after. How much strength will I lose in my right arm and can i redamage it?

Sep 22, 2010
biceps tenotomy
by: Kathy

I had a Bicep Tenotomy and was out of work for 5 months and I am a teacher. It's been a year and I still have spasms and some pain. I can't see you going back if you have a hard job. Everyone is different though and everyone heals differently so hopefully you'll be okay. You also don't want to re-injure yourself.

Sep 23, 2010
8 years to retirement
by: Anonymous

Thanks Kathy,

you are probably right I don't think I want to take that risk...Take care

Sep 24, 2010
Bicep ten.
by: Kathy

I am also 53 years old. I was hoping to retire in 2 years because of my commute but I put in for disability retirement now. The shoulder is still bothering me and working is to difficult. I am a Kindergarten teacher and I was in so much pain all the time and taking meds made me so tired. It's not fair to the children so hopefully their doctors will agree. Take care.

Sep 27, 2010
Bicep Tenodesis/Nerve Repair/Anchor Removal
by: Anonymous

I'm 28 a had a bicep tenodesis done about 8 weeks ago. My tenodesis is different than any of the others I have heard about. The surgeon sewed the the long head of the biceps into the short head so I just have on large tendon now instead of two. He had to remove the long head because the arthritis is so bad in my shoulder. Anyways... yeah it really sucks. I haven't been able to use my arm for about two years now. I was praying that the surgery would make a difference but i'm in more pain than I was before. Medical bills are really beating the crap out of me. Anyways I have major pain all down the arm which the doctor thinks is referred pain from my shoulder. I understand the concept but I disagree because my distal biceps tendon/bicep has been very swollen for a long time.... even before the surgery, and I know thats where a majority of the pain comes from. The doctor also removed the problematic bone anchor and did a suprascapular nerve release which he says is the cause for all the muscle loss in my back. So I don't know.. I have a very physical job that I just had to learn to perform with one arm. This ordeal has pretty much stopped my life dead in its tracks. No its not cancer but I can't get a better job because nobody will hire somebody that only has one arm. Its a fight... everyday its a mental and physical fight. Doc says in six months he is going to do a complete shoulder replacement if my bicep does not get better. Really sucks at this age/point in my life. If anybody can comment on their tenodesis recovery time/experience you just might give me a little needed confidence to keep fighting before I just give up and have the shoulder replaced. I can hardly provide for myself and the one I love with all these damn doctor bills.

Sep 28, 2010
Bicep Tenotomy
by: Kathy

Wow you're so young to have all of this. I hope things turn around for you. Shoulder problems of any kind seem to take so long to heal. I have had a lot of different things done to my shoulder but the bicep tenotomy was probably the worst. The thing is that I have most of my pain in the back and not on the shoulder joint itself. Maybe you should try another doctor since you are so young. I was a teacher and left because I was always in pain and depressed and I didn't think it was good for the kids.
I wish you luck and hope things get better for you.

Sep 28, 2010
2nd surgery
by: Anonymous

I had my second shoulder surgery,Mar22 first was in Jan of 09SLAP repair,after 8 months it didn't get better so I went to another Surgeon,he went in and found the first surgery didn't heal and he found a rotator cuff rip,the bicep tendon was so torn up he had to do a tenotomy,after 6 months it feels so much better.I am still in therapy,but for the first time in 2 years I have little or no pain!!
I also worked for a school, as a custodian,I tore my shoulder up at work and have been on workmans comp since Sept of 08.They terminated me for taking to long to get better,I guess they don't realize you can only go as fast as workmans comp, will allow,sense everything you do has to be approved by them first, and they don't hurry into anything.But after 2 surgeries I am finally feeling better.It takes alot of time,and physical therapy is a must,If you aren't happy with the results, go to another Dr.,the one who did the surgery will never admit there is something more wrong,my first surgeon,said the pain was all in my head,"pain syndrome" due to stress over my job,well I knew something wasn't right so,I went to a shoulder specialist,he could not believe what the other doctor had done and said,but he finally fixed me up.I am so pleased!Be vigilant in your health concerns and seek another opinion,a doctor not associated with the first.
Good Luck!

Oct 27, 2010
Biceps Tenotomy
by: Anonymous2010

I am scheduled to have this procedure done on Nov 3. After reading all of the comments, I am very worried about the out-come. First off, I had a shoulder scope done on Feb 12, 20102 to remove some calicum deposits, bone spurs and a tear in the rotary cuff. I am in more pain, numb and spasms in arm and shoulder than before the surgery.When I told the dr about the pain, he stated that I might have some bad nerves in my neck that might be causing the pain and that he could give me a shot in my neck to releive the pain. My thought then was I needed to see someone else. My pain was in my shoulder not my neck.

Oct 27, 2010
Biceps Tenotomy
by: Anonymous2010

I am scheduled to have this procedure done on Nov 3. After reading all of the comments, I am very worried about the out-come. First off, I had a shoulder scope done on Feb 12, 20102 to remove some calicum deposits, bone spurs and a tear in the rotary cuff. I am in more pain, numb and spasms in arm and shoulder than before the surgery.When I told the dr about the pain, he stated that I might have some bad nerves in my neck that might be causing the pain and that he could give me a shot in my neck to releive the pain. My thought then was I needed to see someone else. My pain was in my shoulder not my neck. Is there anybody that has had a good result?

Nov 28, 2010
Tenotomy
by: Katie

I just had a right shoulder tenotomy (right hand dominant) on October 23rd. I feel pretty good. I see my ortho on December 1st and we're hoping I'll only be in PT for a month before returning to work. I had SA decompression, bone spur removal and bursectomy May 25th of this year. I was injured at work (City of Pittsburgh paramedic) and returned to work full duty July 19th. I guess I'm fairly lucky. I'm 32 years old and just don't want a lifetime of shoulder problems. I had left shoulder surgery when I was 19 and never had a problem again. Good luck to everyone.

Dec 01, 2010
to anonymous
by: Kathy

Hi, I had 2 different shoulder surgeries and still have pain. The second surgery was a year ago Sept. I have scapula pain and neck pain. I am now going to a neurologist because they think the neck pain is not related. I think it is because the pain starts in my scapula and radiates into my neck. I will let you know what the neurologist says.

Dec 29, 2010
tenodesis
by: Bob

I had rotator cuff surgery,bone spur removed,and tenodesis on 12/10/10. I feel your pain. I thought it wouldn't be this bad,but have been told it takes time.I have pain in my neck,pain in my forearm shooting down in my thumb,and numbness to boot.I was told I could be back to work in 2 months,which at this point I find hard to believe,but am keeping my hopes up.I am tired of sleeping in the recliner,and up every 2 hours.My how life can change so quickly.I am trying to keep a positive attitude and be patient.It is one hell of a surgery,so realize it and do the right things, and don't give up hope no matter how much you want to.I am only 2 1/2 weeks out and can't wait til the pain goes away.Good luck everybody !

Dec 29, 2010
shoulder surgery again
by: Kathy

I'm back to tell you that I am going back in for my 4th surgery on my left shoulder. He's going to try to clean things up. I have an impingement and a small tear. After getting 3 cortisone shots that did nothing I decided to try surgery again. I work for the Bd of Ed in NY and didn't go back to work in Sept. Their dr. felt I was fit for work and denied my leave even though this is a job related injury. He made this decision without even seeing me. Now I have to go to arbitration. I will let you know how the surgery goes next week. Good luck everyone. Shoulders are tough.

Jan 03, 2011
Satisfied....so far.
by: PK

Hi, I had severe shoulder pain for over a year. My first surgeon cleaned some bone spurs and arthritis, and sewed me up. The pain continued so I sought a second opinion. I found a fabulous doctor, who performed a bicep tenotomy about three weeks ago. The long time pain is gone, thankfully. So far, I have had some pain that I attribute to the surgery, and anticipate continued improvement. I truly hope I am not being naive, and to optimistic. These articles scare me. As of today, I am very happy with my progress....wish me well.

Jan 09, 2011
10 mm tear Rotator cuff repair, SLAP repair and biceps tendonesis
by: Karen

Had surgery on Oct. 22nd 2010 for what was only suppose to be subcarmial decompression. Dr. got in there and found a 10mm full thickness rotator cuff tear as well as a SLAP tear in labrum and he also did a bicep tendonesis. Anchor's in the rotator cuff and Labrum. I am doing PT 3x weekly. Still in a lot of pain. I can't sleep at night and I am sick of taking the pain meds that only take the edge of the pain. How lonh can I expect to be in this pain?

Jan 09, 2011
torn bicep
by: Anonymous

Hi, i've suffered worsening shoulder/upper arm pain for over a year. After finally visiting a surgeon,was told i had arthritis in my shoulder, and there was nothing that could be done. Reluctantly, i began taking pain med, and resuming the physical activity i had abandoned because of pain, as best i could. Even with meds, pain was excrutiating, but i didn't want to do nothing - i'm only 43. During a hockey game, i felt an exceptionally painful surge, and thought nothing of it. Later in the dressing room, a dr. friend who was playing as well remarked ' hey, you have a torn bicep'. The result, is what is known as a Popeye muscle, and a noticable gap at the top of your arm. WIthin about a week/10 days (after the swelling went down) i was almost completely pain free! I wouldn't begin to consider repairing the long head tendon, life without it is far better!


Jan 10, 2011
to Karen
by: Kathy

Karen, I have had 4 shoulder surgeries plus a manipulation for frozen shoulder in the last 4 years. I feel like I have never really gotten better. I just had surgery for impingement on Jan 6th, so I will have to see what happens. Sleeping is very difficult and hopefully it will get better. From what I have read and experienced it seems that it takes a long time for the shoulder to heal. I do read about some people feeling better right away but that doesn't seem to be the norm. Rehabilitation is long and slow at least it is for me. Good luck.

Jan 10, 2011
2 years and 2 surgeries
by: Anonymous

I had my first surgery Jan 2009 slap repair ect. I had my 2nd surgery Mar 2010 cuff repair,tenotomy.I have come farther than I ever thought possible,but I still have some discomfort and can not sleep on my right side.My doctor (Shoulder specialist)told me it takes 1 full year for the rotator cuff to completely heal after surgery and he also told me only about 50% of the cuff repairs actually make people feel better.It will be a year at the end of mar,it does feel somewhat better but I was hoping for more!Some thing I'll learn to live with!

Jan 15, 2011
Longhead bicep re-attachment
by: Pilot

7 weeks post-op
back to work, can't afford to stay home!
limited ROM but increasing slowly with therapy
sharp pain in specific plains of motion
pain has not changed
not sure if surgery is going to improve quality of life at all
Physical Therapy seems to enflame the pain
hopeful but would caution or discourage anyone who is considering this surgery

Jan 15, 2011
I agree!
by: Anonymous

I could not agree with you more,if I had to do it again,I'd of never had the surgery!I lost my job and the shoulder is about the same as before I had my first of 2 surgeries.At 47 it is almost impossible to find a job and no one wants to take a chance because it was a work injury.Didn't accomplish a darn thing!

Jan 24, 2011
NO PROBLEM
by: Anonymous

I juts had shoulder surgery January 14, 2011 at U of Wis. Great Doctor. I have read the stories about all of the pain for weeks and weeks. My Docotor removed a bone spur and a sist and also did a bicep tenotomy. Have not taken any pain pills in a week and getting ready for rehab now.
I guess I must be different than most, because I have a pretty good range of motion and very little or no pain at all (except if I do something stupid with my arm) Of course the one thing I did do prior to the surgery was to excercise and try to strengthen my should as mUch as I could. My Doctor said this would make the healing process go much quicker, and so far it is working.

Feb 17, 2011
shoulder doctors are car salesman
by: Anonymous

i had rotor cuff surgery and dr. schoch from st. clair orthopedic. dropped my bicep so now i have this funny looking arm,i had to have another surgery because of the pain, i went to Dr.Ciullo and he said it was real bad in there with a masses tear so he left the bicep a lone, no pain now, just looks funny, i am sorry i bought in on fixing these shoulders.too many Quacks out there, we need to let people know about these guys. the med.assocation, the most powerful lobbest in washington. get reed of the Quack Doctors.

Feb 26, 2011
Pain following surgery 10 weeks
by: sully

Very discouraged after reading so many posts with all or most in the same situation. I had mini open arthroscopy for a major tear and underwent surgery now with plate and anchors. I also had 8
bone spurs removed. I am just questioning why, with all the PT there is so much discomfort (tendinitis-like) in elbow, wrist and down into thumb. My shoulder at times feels just like it did prior to surgery. I am here basically to find out why? I just dont get it. I am not a drama queen and have had previous surgeries that were much easier to recover from. Any suggestions, I see my doc on Tues for answers/help. I'm not a drug seeker either and am afraid my doc might have those thoughts. I don't blame anybody for this just bad luck after a bad fall. Hard to work, I type for a living.

Apr 02, 2011
Shoulder surgery
by: Anonymous

Last year I had a MRI taken of my right shoulder and it showed some spurring only. I opted for surgery to fix the problem only to wake up from surgery to find out I had a supra spinastis tear, a long head bicepts tear, a labrum tear and finally the spurring. The surgeon opted not to reattach the long head bicept tendon and now I have very little lifting strength and supination, that it turning a screw driver clock wise, causes a tearing sensation in what is left of my bicept. Because I was not aware of the extent of the damage I had no choice relevant to the long head tear in regard to reattachment.
How can a MRI miss this damage? I am a house painter, or should I say "was". While I do understand the effects of sixty eight years on the body I did have some expectation of recovery, certainly not to the extent as before, but...
I was told my therapist that it was my expectations that were excessive. Just where is the line for optimistic thought regarding any orthepedic surgery and why did the surgeon opt not to reattach the long head tendon? me2ike@yahoo.com

Apr 03, 2011
bicep tendon
by: Kathy

I had the bicep cut a year and a half ago also and I am in pain everyday. I am trying to retire but the Board of Education is giving me a hard time especially since this was of a result of an injury on the job. I have been back and forth with surgeons and I get different answers all the time. The surgeon I am seeing now saws it wasn't necessary to do the bicep tenomity.
I am amazed that none of that showed up on the MRI. They should have asked you before surgery if you wanted them to fix whatever they saw. I was in so much pain so I opted for the surgery but never knew how many things they were going to do when they went in.

Apr 05, 2011
biceps tenotomy AC joint resection
by: Anonymous

Having injured my shoulder 2010 had several cortisone injections,with little effect, it has been sugested by the Orthopaedic Surgeon I may need a biceps tenotomy and AC jiont resection, he also stressed to do it as a last resort. However after reading the comments of people who have had this done I am begining to err on the side of caution. surgeon did stress it could be a long recovery.So methinks I shall opt for the conservative route pain killers when required and physio.

Apr 10, 2011
Going under the knife...
by: REWard

I had a work fall in December of 2010. As many of you know, Worker's Comp. moves with the speed of a napping tortoise. Finally, the MRI showed a full-thickness tear of the supraspinatus tendon w/ a 2.1 cm (yes- centimeter) gap between the free edges of the tendon. Also two visible partial tears (subscapularis and bicep tendon). I'm a farmer and teacher, and very concerned with the recovery time. I've been doing PT (WC's orders) for the past 2 months. But, would like some in-put - is the 'fix' worse than the original problem. I currently have a 2 pain on a scale of 10, most of the time. It's those 'lightning jolts' when I reach for something or try to pull the starter cord on my chain saw, roto tiller, etc. UGH!!! We're in this together...and I wish everyone here the very best. Thanks

Apr 16, 2011
rotator surgery/biceps tendosis
by: Anonymous

FELL 10/24/11
SEVERE FX. LEFT RADIUS, ORIF OF LEFT WRIST, WITH PLATE AND SCREW.
C/O SHOULDER PAIN MONTHS LATER FOUND ALSO TO HAVE ALMOST COMPLETE ROTATOR CUFF TEAR, FULL THICKNESS TEAR OF SUPRAFINATUS TENDON RUPTURE, IMPINGEMENT AND BICEPS TEAR. ROTATOR CUFF REPAIR, BICEPS TENDOSIS, SUBACROMIAL DECOMPRESSION, BONY SPUR REMOVAL, PORTION OF AVOCLIMUCAR REMOVED.
4 WEEKS NOW, TAKING ALOT OF PERCOCET AS PAIN SO BAD, HOWEVER FEELING REALLY BAD ON DRUGS, BUT NOTHING ELSE SEEMS TO WORK. FEEL LIKE I AM DYING, CRY ALOT DEPRESSED. ANY SUGGESTIONS, ANYONE GIVE UP FROM SO MUCH PAIN AND DIE. MAY SOON LOSE JOB BECAUSE OF TWO SURGERIES AND NO HOPED TO RETURN TO WORK FOR ANOTHER 6 MONTHS.

Apr 16, 2011
to have surgery or not
by: lorina

I had 2 surgeries on my right shoulder,first for a s.l.a.p repair with 2 anchors,after 8 months of pain and dealing with a Dr who told me there was nothing wrong with it,it was fine,I went to a second Dr.he had to go in and fix the first repair which hadn't even healed after a year, then with the work hardening and Pt the first Dr put me through,the rotator cuff was ripped and I had to have a tenotomy,because the long head of the bicep was completely frayed.my first surgery was 2 years ago in Jan and my second surgery was 1 year ago in Mar.after the second surgery,1 year ago,I still cannot sleep on my right side,my arm aches horribly when the weather is rainy or cold,and it grinds at every rotation it makes.I was a school custodian,which is where I hurt my shoulder to begin with,but I lost my job because I couldn't heal fast enough for them,If I had known then what I know now,I would of never had the surgery,it was a waste of time,2 different shoulder specialist and now I just live with the pain.I have been looking for work for 6 months but no one wants to take a chance on an insurance risk,Everyone has to make there own choices but I would never recommend anyone to have the surgery,it's a slow and painful process,the second surgeon did tell me it was only a 50% chance it would even get better.so live and learn!

Apr 21, 2011
Bicep Tenotomy
by: Sharon

14 days ago I had my 5th shoulder surgery, this time a Grade 3 Subacromial debridement and open bicep tenotomy. My previous surgeries were for:-

October 2008 Left Shoulder -ASAD, ACJ Resection, Bursctomy grade 3, 2 anchor SLAP Repair, debridement
February 2009 Right Shoulder - ASAD, ACJ Resection, Bursctomy grade 3, 3anchor SLAP Repair, debridement
August 2009 Right Shoulder - Rotator Cuff repair, subscap repair, Bicep tenodesis, debridement
March 2010 Right shoulder Debridement, decompression

I am now totally fed up with the constant pain, I have the popeye bicep and doing the rehab religiously - how long before the pain goes away??? To make matters worse my left shoulder which has been fine for 2 years is now in agony, the doctor did a cortisone injection into the joint and bicep during the surgery but this has not helped at all.

I am seriously ready to give up

Apr 23, 2011
succesful arthroscopic
by: boo

Hi all, I'm sorry to hear of so many people still in pain. I think I've been lucky. 4 weeks ago I had arthroscopic surgery on my right shoulder. Apparently they removed some bone from the top of my shoulder and I had a torn biceps tendon which they weren't able to repair. I've made great progress with rehab exercises. I still have some biceps pain and a little pain in the shoulder. But I'm sure it will improve in time. I hope those who are still suffering find some relief soon.
Boo

May 04, 2011
bicep tenotomy
by: Anonymous

Read all the comments before I had right shoulder bicep tenotomy on April 11, 2011. I was scared to death from all the problems people reported. Am now three weeks post op. No cramping, no Popeye deformity and best of all no more pain. Had a sling for 1/2 a day, no pain pills at all, just some nsaid medication for 2 days. No physical therapy needed. Tendon was almost totally frayed so tendonosis was not an option. Just wanted people to know not everyone has a bad outcome.

May 04, 2011
pain
by: Anonymous

most of the posts on here are for much more complex surgeries,accompanying the tenotomy,such as s.l.a.p repairs and rotator cuff repairs those are the painful parts of shoulder surgery that are hard to spring back from.My tenotomy was a walk in the park compared to the rest of it!Glad to hear you didn't have to go through all that and are back to the swing of things!

May 04, 2011
open bicep tenodesis with arthroscopic
by: doug

Had open bicep tenodesis Wednesday April 27 2011 and took Percocet for 2 days. Was supposed to wear a sling for 1 week and have my first post op tomorrow. After almost 8 months of pain, glad to say, I am feeling fantastic.
I have been lifting weights for over 30 years (soon to be 50 years old)and hopefully that has something to do with the decreased recovery time.
Actually starting lifting weights again today doing light bench press and front shoulder dumbbell raises.
I would recommend anyone that has experienced this kind of debilitating pain to get the surgery. Obviously a great doctor helps.

May 21, 2011
Happy and pain free after Tenotomy
by: Anonymous

It's been 11 days since I had a tenotomy for my SLAP tear (type II). The first 3 days was painful and after that painless. My arm was in pain when it was immoblized s o I started to move my arm around (against MD advice). I had full range of motion after 5 days post op. Couldn't believe I even had surgery - it was so painless and had stop the oxycodone on day 3.. However, I must have over done myself and pulled something in side which resulted to a one day of intense pain on the 6th day. I got scoldings from the physical therapist and my orthopedic surgeon. "you are required to keep your arm in a sling and don't use your arm to do stuff." I am now cautious when moving my arm around and I stop lifting things. I thank God for my speedy recovery and good out come (no popeye arm).

May 31, 2011
pain and numbness down left arm
by: chris in ohio

I've had pain and numbness in my left arm for a 1 1/2 years and have seen multiple orthopedic surgens, all giving me different ways to fix my problem. I decided to go with surgery on shoulder then pt for 3 mounths, the pain and numbness never went away and during pt my right arm started getting same symptoms as left arm. I got really suspicuos of dr becuase I did alot of research since I couldn't sleep but a couple hours a night and found that the symptoms I am having are actually radiating from my c-spine. buldging disc, osteophytes, and bilatteral foraminal narrowing which is two pinched or compressed nerves in my neck. I only found all of this out becuase I am very sick of dealing with this pain, I really feel for people with this pain it is constant burning from neck to fingers, all my joints ache with throbbing, weakness in arms and shooting numbness when attempting hard pt. My surgen has just dropped me and told me there was no more he could do and also told my primary care dr that I was just out to get pain meds and now she has dropped me as well. My laywer has insured me that they are in gross neglect and have maliciuos intent but that still dont give me any rest. I have since made oppointments for spine specialists. This problem has brought alot of misery into my life I actually had to check myself into netcare becuase of suicidle thoughts that I could not get out of my head, but in the facility they tortured my even more and after praying and sitting in the room queitly my GOD asked me one question which was what are you thankful for? After finding numerous answers the dark thoughts left me. I am now in better mental condition but physical no! I now know that I will be ok but it will take time, so if your having this pain and numbness, get your c-spine mri to see if this is your problem to, don't let it get as far I did. hopefully this will help somone out there cuase I have gone through hell but I know I can do anything if I put my mind to it. p.s. I have been able to do all of this without insurance, workers comp, disibilty, or ssi, it just took some doing research on my part. remember GOD is always with us.

Jul 12, 2011
BICEP REPAIR PAIN AFTER 2 YEARS
by: Rob M

Had bicep repair surgery almost 2 years ago. It was reapired and all good. I followed the doctors instructions and started lifting again 6 months later. I was good for about 9 months felt a pop but the bicep looks the same but now i cant lift more than 15 pound dumbells in my right arm where i has surgery. X-Ray says still connected and pin titanium clip still in place. Had an MRI done and seeing the doc tomorrow hope he has an answer for the pain. Hurts all the time and getting worse. Anyone have this experience?

Aug 03, 2011
Depression sucks
by: Meggan

I won't go on about my shoulder problems because my story is very similar to a lot of other people's stories. I am currently at the point of possibly having to consider a biceps tenotomy. The biggest thing I would like to say is that I also went through a serious bout of depression (been dealing with my shoulder for over 1.5 years and I haven't been able to work in over a year because my employer won't let me come back until I'm fully healed). I struggled for a long time, telling myself I was just imagining being depressed and telling myself that I KNEW I was depressed, so I should be able to fix it myself. But it's really NOT that easy. I finally forced myself (after some encouragement from friends and family) to go see a counselor. She was very helpful and I started taking an antidepressant (even though I desparately didn't want to-I saw it as a weakness). Boy, what a difference it made! I finally felt like my old self, and it made it easier to deal with the frustration and anxiety of dealing with my shoulder pain. If you are feeling depressed, don't hesitate to talk to someone about it!! It never hurts to try and in the end, it will most likely be exactly what you need.

Aug 03, 2011
November 28
by: Katie

I added a comment on November 28 about having a tenotomy on November 23. (Although I wrote October 23). Well interestingly enough I had tenotomy complications. I saw numerous doctors who couldn't seem to give me a reason as to why I was still having shoulder pain. Finally saw a new ortho on June 13. She figured out that the long head of my biceps tendon never fell down in to my arm and got caught up on something, remaining in my bicipital groove. Therefore causing me the same awful pain prior to my tenotomy. So two days later on June 15th I was back in the operating room (third time in a little over a year) having a biceps tenodesis. Finally, after months and months of pain, I have relief, thank heavens. She did a great job, and I finally feel as if I have a somewhat normal shoulder back. Good luck and never stop looking for answers.

Aug 23, 2011
Lady 52- 3.5 weeks post artroscopic Type II SLAP repair -acromial decompression, biceps tenotomy
by: Anonymous

Am sorry to hear that some people have had bad expreiences with this type of surgery. It's still early days for me, but I am very happy and progressing well, though I didn't anticipate the level of pain that I'd experience. But it is subsiding.

I had a Painbuster inserted for 48 hours post-op that dripped 2cc/hour of local into the site, and was taking a Gram of Paracetamol and oxycodone 10 mgs three times a day for the first couple of weeks, but now down to no oxy and only a couple of doses of Paracetamol each day at the maximum.

Have been fairly diligent with the physiotherapy, and highly recommend the hydrotherapy, the warmth and support of the water really helps. Some of the x's do hurt the biceps. Had trouble accessing the pool and therapist enough to be of benefit, so have installed a hot tub - its the best!!
At this time the bone still feels raw from the scraping, and my biceps (or is that now a uniceps??!?) feels weird, assisted ROM is quite good, can lift light objects (salad bowls etc) though some extension with palm up (holding down a ball and making figure 8 moves underwater) causes momentary agony and recoil. It is improving each day, especially if I don't do the moves that hurt, and stay outside pain range as I perform the moves.

After 6 years of chronic pain from a furniture lifting injury, and undergoing every treatment, (conventional and alternate) known to man (the ortho surgeon I saw way back then said there was nothing he could do for me, I recommend this treatment, and am glad that I had it now and not back then as there have been some ground breaking advances in the last couple of years. Just make sure you see a surgeon who is up on the latest treatments, and choose a shoulder/arm specialist. also, DON'T lift heavy weights ever!!

Good luck to all.



Sep 05, 2011
SURGEY ON RIGHT SHOULDER, THEN DEVELOP PROBLEM ON THE GOOD SIDE
by: SOKUMU2000004

I hurt my right shoulder at work on 05/26/2010, The MRI Showed SLAP Tear. Surgery done on 08/30/2010 to repair SLAPT Tear. Did PT as recomended by DR. It became more worse, Post surgery MRI Showed, SLAP Tear again, they did another surgery on 04/12/2011, this time they did
Biceps Tennodesis. I have been to PT since then not healing, more pain and actually worse than before.

Work mans comps. sent me to an independent physician, interestingly the senior Doctor who my surgeon always consult with on difficult cases, infact he is the one who advised my surgion on what to do on my shoulder. The Indepent Doctor ordered for Post operation MRI. Still waiting for approval from the adjustor. Indepent doctor told me to keep off my shoulder till the result of MRI. He also asked me to request adjuster to see him not my surgion.

All this time which is over one year, I have been using my left arm more and actually it is overworked. Last week my job gave a job of sweeping, mopping and picking trush. This was to be with in my restriction given by my surgeon, who believed that am supporsed to be going full duty. Restriction is not to lift more than ten pounds. I am in too much pain. During sweeping I noticed lots of pain on my left shoulder. Actually feels like Ialso have a problem on my left shoulder. My question is, has someone experienced a problem on the other shoulder due to over using it. Pls. help

Sep 05, 2011
surgery Right shoulder, then having pain on the left good shoulder
by: SOKUMU2000004

I forgot to mention that while I was sweeping last week, I felt apop sound on my left good shoulder. When I came home after work I had to treat both with ice. It feels better but concerned.

Sep 09, 2011
Both shoulder pain
by: Meggan

Soku-
I have also had pain in my left shoulder after over-using it due to 2 surgeries on my right shoulder (I had an arthroscope and a biceps tenodesis). I spent so much time using only my left arm that I started developing pain on that side also. I finally had my doctor look at it several months ago-he believed I probably just have some inflammation, nothing too serious. He has done 2 cortisone injections into my left shoulder. The first injection gave me quite a bit of relief, but the second one did not. I'm starting to get more pain again on that left side, so it's starting to worry me alittle (my right shoulder is not healed yet either- I'm most likely going to end up having a tenotomy done). Let me tell anyone who is reading this... shoulders are terrible to injure!!! I have been dealing with this problem for almost 2 years now. Make sure you ask lots of questions to your doctors and understand any treatments. Make sure they are thourough.... if you get an MRI that shows a possible tear, make them do another test (such as an arthrogram) to verify. My first surgery was pointless because I did not have a rotator cuff tear after all.

Sep 10, 2011
Both shoulder pain, @ Meggan
by: SOKUMU2000004


I want to thank you very much Meggan, that is helpful. I also might go for another surgery on my right shoulder. I also want to add that a friend of mine at work told me that his doctor told him that once one shoulder goes off the other side has to go off, it is just a matter of time. I believe I have a tear on my left. I have to ask my doctor to order MRI on that. Again thank you Meggan will keep you posted and pls. let me know how you progress.

Oct 16, 2011
scared
by: chuck

The docter want's me to have my bicep cut because i'm in alot of pain how much strenth will i loose,I'm 65 and i'm on three bowling leauge.

Oct 17, 2011
8 surgeries
by: Kathy

I haven't posted for awhile but I have had 4 surgeries on each shoulder. I am still in pain on the right side. I was granted accident disability retirement from my job as a Kindergarten teacher. I applied for Social Security benefits but they seem to think I can work. I was always in pain and had a hard time functioning in my class. I would have to take percocet and tramadol for the pain but then I became sleepy. I put in for retirement because I didn't think I was giving my best for the kids. I had my first accident in 2004 and had the 4 surgeries on my right shoulder. The workmens comp doctor said I lost 40 percent use of the shoulder. Well then I fell at work and hurt the left shoulder and had 4 surgeries for different things. Most of the problems are with the rotator cuff. My scapula is where I have so much pain. I am back at PT and get massage therapy. It is painful and I think I should have another MRI but the insurance company doesn't approve them so easy.I agree it seems shoulder injuries are the worst. They never seem to heal right and it's so easy to reinjure them. I like to know if any of you have bad pain in the scapula. This causes numbness in my chest and arm and I get so nervous that it's my heart. I have just added a muscle relaxant into my meds. These meds just make me so tired.Good luck all I love bring able to see all these posts.

Oct 21, 2011
Shoulder Impingement and bicep tendon repair
by: Jan

I had my shoulder operated on in July and am still in constant pain in my shoulder,down my arm,severe pain in my wrist especially at night and numbnes and pain in my fingers.I am having constant PT but it is getting worse not better.The pain I have now is much worse than the pain I experienced before the operation.I was told nothing about the tendon repair until after the operation.Wish I had llooked into it further before going ahead.Good luck everyone.

Oct 24, 2011
worse instead of better
by: Kathy

It seems most people are worse after surgery. How many of you have pain in the back scapula. My pain goes from under my arm into the middle of my back. If the physical therapist presses on it I jump. I have no idea what this is. They just do massage. I too get pain down my arm. I get so nervous because it's my left arm. I always feel like I may be having a heart attack.

Oct 27, 2011
any opinion counts
by: wolfe

hello, well I initially tore my r rtc in 2007, then in physical therapy my left one tore. a(yes during pt) I had screws and anchors in 2008, and knew the right one was worsening... no further injury, buy daily movement and body mechanics.in 2010 I had another MRI which really only said there may be a tear in the labrum, rtc was ok... so, a few weeks before surgery I slipped and fell at work... hit the floor in the bathroom. So, when i went into surgery the surgeon got alot more then he or I bargained for... apparently my labrum was torn and detached from the humerous from 11 to 3:30. They needed screw and anchors. Then I was told my bicep muscle was torn, feathered and in the wrong place and had to be moved.... FInally, they then had to do a mini open on me because my rtc was more then 50 percent torn all the way threw. MY QUESTION to anyone... i thought i knew what to expect from my last surgery... this is awful. Surgery was oct.3, 2011. Im still in a sling, am allowed to let my arm hang like a pendulum to stretch it, or briefly let it sit on my lap.... but my arm this time feels totally reconstructed with pain in my elbow and into hand. I feel like my arm wants to sit in the wrong direction. Typing this hurts. Has anyone have symptoms like this? Im pretty intelligent as I work in the healthcare field... Also, I have found that in the early mornings i can actually lay in my bed as if the muscles have relaxed. Sleep is rare, but has anyone heard this is bad??? Normally I am just in a recliner.If anyone has had pain similar i would be grateful for your opinion! Thank you!(also, when i started therapy with my left arm i could move my arm all over, just not my shoulder... now i cant even lift my arm at all and therapy appears to be right around the corner)

Nov 13, 2011
Bicep Tenodesis and Arthroscopic Decompression
by: Anonymous

I had a bicep tenodesis and arthroscopic decompression on my left arm/shoulder on October 25, 2011. My surgery went well, and now I am in the process of letting it heal.

However, my arm is not in that much pain, nor has it ever been after my surgery, much to my detriment. I say that because two days into my recovery, I had unwittingly tried to hold my dog. My confidence in being on a speedy road to recovery, enhanced by the hydro codeine, was quickly dashed, as my arm gave way and I dropped my dog. As I later discovered, that action must have had caused my tendon to slip out of the anchor.

So now I am faced with the option of having another tenodesis to fix it, or to have the popeye muscle. I understand if I don't have it fixed now, I won't be able to get it fixed later, since the tendon will start to heal into the bicep.

After reading the posts on what life is like living with a popeye muscle and all of the potential problems associated with a bicep tenodesis, it may not seem like a bad choice to not have the second surgery scheduled for 11/16.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Nov 14, 2011
for Chris in Ohio
by: Kathy

Chris I know how you feel. The depression got really bad for me too. I also had to deal with my job since I got hurt there. I didn't care about anything but dying. I wasn't suicidal even though I thought about dying all the time. I felt no one understood. I am on percocet and tramadol. The neurologist knows I only take it twice a day and have been for 5 years. When I got hurt I developed atypical facial pain. They said it was nerve damage from my neck. The face pain is awful and there really isn't much they can do. I have tried a lot of things but the only thing that helps is percocet. I think doctors doPysical therapy helps somewhatn't want to be responsible if you get addicted. There are a lot of people out there who go from dr to dr. just to get prescriptions so I know they have to be careful but it ruins everything for people who are really in pain. My primary was afraid in the beginning but He can tell that I don't come every month for meds. I can't believe how much people suffer with these shoulder injuries. I thank God the doctors who examined me for retirement saw how much pain I was in. I have applied for social security disability also. Physical therapy helps to a point but the pain is still there for a lot of people. I had such pain in my elbow for awhile until I got cortisone shots. I have had so many shots but they only help a little and I don't want to have anymore because I have osteoporosis. I hope you find a doctor that understands what you are going through.

Nov 14, 2011
Wolfe
by: NavyMarine

Wolfe, I have been where you are now. I have had my right shoulder operated on three times now for small tears of the RTC and AC joint impingment. I lived with pain daily for six months during which I went to PT 3 - 4 times a week for 2 plus hours. The muscles finally positioned / streetched themselves out enough to allow the pain to stop. Now almost 5 years later I am going back in for a Open Sub pectoral bicep tenodesis due to daily pain and numbness in my arm and neck. I am not really looking forward to this but realize if I want to live a semi-normal life I need to do this. PT is hell but push yourself to your limit not the therapists. That is what I did and ended up tearing my bicep but never got it looked at. I almost dropped my daughter one day picking her up and then decided to have the arm looked at again. This will be the fourth doctor. All came highly recommended but be carefully and make sure you feel comfortable with what they tell you.

Nov 14, 2011
navymarine
by: Anonymous

Thanks so much for responding... time continues to roll forward with very little progress being made. I am committed to fixing this right, but am truly wondering how I am going to be released to go back to work. My fingers go numb, my arm has spasms continually. (Spasms are new) I had major Injuries from 1994 when I was a pedestrian pinned between 2 cars... I had a closed head injury, double crush to my left side, multiple bulging & herniated discs etc... my neck was doing awesome until my 1st left shoulder surgery. My one disc sits totally "backwards" as I was told with a reverse curve of the spine. Thus, its hard for me at times to differentiate where certain pain stems from. I totally have issues with the bicep & am fearful of the future. (I'm rambling... sorry) I think it takes awhile for them to post your initial comment & in the last 2 weeks I've managed to graduate to moving my arm like 3 to 4 inches while at my side... still no strength. I've been trying so hard to lift my arm to set it on my boyfriends leg while we sit watching TV... such a small task that is truly way too challenging. I finally found a Facebook friend that had all the same stuff as me & she basically told me to prepare 4 a very long year of pain & struggling. I can deal with pain pretty well, because of my previous accident & injuries. I will say however, when I started at the top last evening & read all of these I became very discouraged at the number of people having such great difficulty still & it seems like its all related to the bicep reconstruction. My motto has always been "suck it up & deal with it because I work daily with cancer patients.
I wish you all the best with your pending surgery. I'm here if you want or need to sound off.... I may not make too much sense as i tend to hop around with the subject (head injury ) but I mean well! Thanks for taking the time to email.

Nov 25, 2011
Tenotomy
by: will

I told the surgeon not to do this ,but the arrogant SOB did it anyway. He did a tendesis on the left arm 5 years ago. I m not a couch potato at least I was not until now. I am Suing him and the provider, firing the provider and will have to have reconstructive surgery to fix what he fouled up. The reason they give is that it is quicker proce3edure, I guess that is how they save money. Screw the patient. Please if you are part of the medical mafia please do not reply, if I want an argument I can talk to my wife.

Dec 10, 2011
Bicept reattached NEW
by: Wood

Bicept reattached But lost use of hand and fingers now what do I do?

Dec 21, 2011
help! NEW
by: Erika

i am 43 years old and at the beginning of the year i am to have surgery to scrape out arthritis, take out a bone spur, shave down the bone, then the doc wants to cut the tendon and "let it hang", the part that makes me nervous is the recovery time. i have to work, its not a choice, its a necessity. i read on these post that instead of the three to four weeks, that i was told, i may be looking at months. wondering if the pain i have been dealing with for about four years now is better than surgery that may make it worse. i take motrin 800 during the day and cannot take the vicoden 750 unless i stay home. the doc suggested i take both together. i have actually gotten use to the pain. but only if i take my mind off of it somehow. can anybody further elaborate on their recovery? how long was it before you could drive? i hate being dependent on other people as well and concerned about the depression i have heard about. i was hoping that the surgery would get me off the couch and back to my active life.

Dec 28, 2011
Post-Shoulder Surgery NEW
by: TamapMarty

I had extensive work performed on my left shopulder on 10/13/2011. I had frozen shoulder which required the capsule to be cleaned up, bicep tenotomy, rotator cuff tear repair and finally procedure to release my impingement problem.

The good news is I can extend my arm to 160 degrees with no pain & 161-180 with minimal pain. Before my surgery I couldn't raise may arm beyond 7o degrees with much pain and strain.

I was off work for 7 weeks but after the initial week of PT at home with a machine my doc said PT was not needed.

I still have pain in my left shoulder plus my bicep area. At night, my shoulder is still having pain so I sleep about 5 hours a night at best. It quite painful and hard to move once I wake up. After about 2 hours the pain decreases and my movement is much better but seems to get worse as the day progresses.

I have moments where I lose control of my arm and have been dropping things unexpectedly. It;s a wierd feeling. Fortantely, this becoming less and less.

In my last doctor appotinment in mid-December I inquired about PT and he insisted it would do no good and just time is needed to recover from my procedures.

It's now late December and still have pain at night and progresses as the day drags on. I see the doc again in mi-January so I will see what the next steps are.

I am an avid golfer so I was able to swing a club and hit some golf balls last week. After wards my mobility in my left shoulder was quite good for a few hours then return back to where it was. Starting thinking my PT was still the course to go for my recovery. I will ask the doc again.

Dec 28, 2011
right shoulder severe rotator cuff surgery & spur remo NEW
by: Bill in Va

9I guess I am the 'new' crybaby on the block with the most recent pain & side effect issues. 69 year old male with pain for the past three months, but nothing like I am experiencing post op.Am typing this slowly left handed with right arm in two point wrap body sling.After Xray, CT scan and MRI,my highly experienced and recommended ortho surgeon 'operated' last Wednesday and since then nothing but extreme pain,little or no sleep and the most God awful side effects. After going the first 48 hours at home with these conditions, called his office and he said to 'double up' on the percocet..Wrong move!! Everything just got worse (shortness of breath,dry mouth, total loss of appetite, biting my own tongue when I sneeze,and burning sensation on taste buds, so i quit the percocet after googling side effects, but still having all same issues slighlty reduced. Yesterdays visit (to have stitches removed)with him, he blames anesthesia after effects and changed me from percocet to Hydromorphon 2 mg to no avail so far. Physical therapy to start next week. Hope I can make it til then..

Dec 28, 2011
??? NEW
by: Erika

Bill, what did you have done?

Dec 28, 2011
lol NEW
by: Erika

never mind, didnt read the title, hope you are feeling better soon!

Jan 02, 2012
shoulder surgery NEW
by: tazzie

hi, i had problems with my right shoulder for 2 years, i had medication, steriod injections and accupuncter but nothing worked. on november 23rd 2011 i had surgery to repair torn muscle, AC decompression and resection, the pain was soo bad afterwards i went to G.P who prescribed stronger medication, i started physio 2 weeks after op, physio had me in tears, he was doing exercises with me, that was meant for 12 post op. im in complete agony, and depressed, i was told not to drive for 6 weeks, but im no-where near ready to drive, the pain is that bad with or without moving my arm. im due to see consultant this week, and just know, he will come out with some rubbish to fobbed me off with, i know shoulder surgery is along recovery, but this pain is far worse than i had before.

Feb 12, 2012
Massage Therapy NEW
by: Karen

WOW! I am amazed at the issues arising out of shoulder surgery. I am a massage therapist working with a client that just has some bone spurs removed in her right arm. The pain in her bicep tendon is horrible. I am frustrated trying to figure out what could have happened to cause this pain and therefore frustration/depression. I can tell you that massage has been helping her. I work the serratus anterior, infraspinatus, sub-scapularus, and muscles all in her arm. I also highly recommend kinesio-taping. It gives her just enough support of the bicep to take the edge off the pain.
My heart goes out to everyone.

Feb 13, 2012
fingers crossed NEW
by: Erika

surgery is on thursday (the 16th) heres hoping all goes well. won't know til after what he decides to do about my tendon, he said he wont know until he sees it

Feb 13, 2012
Reply to Erika. NEW
by: Bill Bryan

Erika, as stated above I had rotator cuff surgery and several bone spurs removed on Dec 21st. since then, the pain in my shoulder and sometimes all the way down the arm is worse than before surgery (I rate it 6 to 7 on a 10 scale) medicine (hydrocodone) does NOT help. Physical Therapy is increasing my range of motion but the pain just will NOT go away..never comfortable..

Feb 14, 2012
How long until this bicep tendon pain gets better? NEW
by: sakm

I had my first surgery on 12/21/10. Rt shoulder (rt handed). Type 2 SLAP repair and RC repair (superspinatus). Boy was that painful. I developed frozen shoulder from this surgery (it started to freeze within 2 weeks of surgery). Doc thought my pre-existing medical problem contributed to it. Allergic to prednison so cortisone shots were not an option. My doc was afraid to try them. PT did not help the frozen shoulder. Had another MRI/Arthrogram in Sept doc said worst case of frozen shoulder he'd ever seen and needed surgery. Surgery for this on Jan 4 2012. He did a capsular release and a biceps tendotomy. In that year I had almost completely torn the tendon (LHB). He opted to cut it free to decrease the pain so I could regain full ROM i the shoulder. I don't have the popeye deformity but it seems as though the tendon is still in it's groove. I almost have full ROM back but horrible pain in the biceps tendon. PT says I have tendonitis in it but how can that be since it was cut free? I didn't have this pain the first 1-2 weeks post-op. PT pushed on that spot while stretching my shoulder and it bring tears to my eyes. I have a high pain tolerance and this is just so painful. How long until there is no pain the tendon?

Feb 14, 2012
How long until this bicep tendon pain gets better? NEW
by: sakm

I had my first surgery on 12/21/10. Rt shoulder (rt handed). Type 2 SLAP repair and RC repair (superspinatus). Boy was that painful. I developed frozen shoulder from this surgery (it started to freeze within 2 weeks of surgery). Doc thought my pre-existing medical problem contributed to it. Allergic to prednison so cortisone shots were not an option. My doc was afraid to try them. PT did not help the frozen shoulder. Had another MRI/Arthrogram in Sept doc said worst case of frozen shoulder he'd ever seen and needed surgery. Surgery for this on Jan 4 2012. He did a capsular release and a biceps tendotomy. In that year I had almost completely torn the tendon (LHB). He opted to cut it free to decrease the pain so I could regain full ROM i the shoulder. I don't have the popeye deformity but it seems as though the tendon is still in it's groove. I almost have full ROM back but horrible pain in the biceps tendon. PT says I have tendonitis in it but how can that be since it was cut free? I didn't have this pain the first 1-2 weeks post-op. PT pushed on that spot while stretching my shoulder and it bring tears to my eyes. I have a high pain tolerance and this is just so painful. How long until there is no pain the tendon?

Feb 14, 2012
reply to bill bryan NEW
by: Erika

i am trying to be hopeful that even though the pain i have had for the past three years will or could be worse, that eventually something will improve. i would be happy just to be able to have more range of motion at this point and hoping that driving wont cause me to pop a few pills and go to bed afterwards. i was told that you had to keep with the rehab, i hope that soon you will feel better. =)

Feb 15, 2012
Bicep tenodesis partial rotator cuff tear cartilage defect NEW
by: Anonymous

Hi. Had bicep tenodesis, partial rotator tear (flap cut off but not repaired as tear was 50% torn md stated would only repair if 60% torn), and articular cartilage defect was found (defect was unexpected, md states he again "cleaned it up" - actually made it more of a hole with no microfracuring or abrasion done to help it heal!) om dec 8th, 2011. Spent a night in ICU as skalein block left me unable to swallow, talk, or breath well. Following removal of dressing 3 days postoperative arm was two times it's normal size. Eight days postoperative visit swelling reduced but still there. Md stated he had "no explanation" for the swelling and left it at that. Told me to take off sling but wear when in public. Next post op visit found me in a lot more pain and swelling continuing. Md then stated swelling normal but pain not and started pt due to pain. Stated that partial rotator cuff tears "do not cause pain". Pt is great but continue in a lot of pain with swelling in upper arm down to elbow. Very concerned this is lymphedema brought it up to him on last visit and md stated he doesn't know anything about lymphedema or who to consult about it Had measured my arm in two places against other arm and was able to quantitate it to him. He had ultrasound for blood clot done which was negative (as I new
it would be). I have had enough of him so contacted my primary care and went to see him to evaluate for lymphedema. He is furious and stated md made my arm worse, wants me to be fitted for custom compression sleeve and to be reevaluated by different ortho md. Stated that much swelling after surgery was very dangerous. Lao wants me to continue with pt which I agree with. My pt has doctorate in pt and very good. He also felt I should have second opinion if no reasonable answers from first md. Still continue in lots of pain. Sleep 4-5 hours a night then wake up in pain. Sleeping propped up on couch due to pain. My question is this---has anyone else experienced swelling like this???? Obviously a lot of people are experiencing the pain!! Please post here if you have this problem as have not found it anywhere on the web!!!!!!!

Feb 15, 2012
Bicep tenodesis partial rotator cuff tear cartilage defect NEW
by: Anonymous

Hi. Had bicep tenodesis, partial rotator tear (flap cut off but not repaired as tear was 50% torn md stated would only repair if 60% torn), and articular cartilage defect was found (defect was unexpected, md states he again "cleaned it up" - actually made it more of a hole with no microfracuring or abrasion done to help it heal!) om dec 8th, 2011. Spent a night in ICU as skalein block left me unable to swallow, talk, or breath well. Following removal of dressing 3 days postoperative arm was two times it's normal size. Eight days postoperative visit swelling reduced but still there. Md stated he had "no explanation" for the swelling and left it at that. Told me to take off sling but wear when in public. Next post op visit found me in a lot more pain and swelling continuing. Md then stated swelling normal but pain not and started pt due to pain. Stated that partial rotator cuff tears "do not cause pain". Pt is great but continue in a lot of pain with swelling in upper arm down to elbow. Very concerned this is lymphedema brought it up to him on last visit and md stated he doesn't know anything about lymphedema or who to consult about it Had measured my arm in two places against other arm and was able to quantitate it to him. He had ultrasound for blood clot done which was negative (as I new
it would be). I have had enough of him so contacted my primary care and went to see him to evaluate for lymphedema. He is furious and stated md made my arm worse, wants me to be fitted for custom compression sleeve and to be reevaluated by different ortho md. Stated that much swelling after surgery was very dangerous. Lao wants me to continue with pt which I agree with. My pt has doctorate in pt and very good. He also felt I should have second opinion if no reasonable answers from first md. Still continue in lots of pain. Sleep 4-5 hours a night then wake up in pain. Sleeping propped up on couch due to pain. My question is this---has anyone else experienced swelling like this???? Obviously a lot of people are experiencing the pain!! Please post here if you have this problem as have not found it anywhere on the web!!!!!!!

Feb 20, 2012
Very little pain after surgery NEW
by: Linda

I am a 62 year old female who had surgery On 1/27/12. I had anterior AND SUPERIOR LABRAL debridement with repair of rotator cuff, open bicep tendonitis, subacromial decompression and partial claviculectomy with biceps tendon allograft reinforcement of the tear. I have very little or no pain. I stopped taking pain meds a week after surgery. I do, however, keep it iced most of the time. Not sure if that is the key but ice reduces inflammation which causes pain. I am also faithful with doing the small exercises. Along with the arthroscopic holes, I have a 3" scar on my shoulder which has healed nicely. So, for those of you facing this surgery, it's not always bad..Good luck!

Feb 26, 2012
Post Tenotomy Pain NEW
by: Kilgore Trout

I am three weeks post surgery for a bicep tenotnomy, claviculecotmy, bone spur abrasion and removal of some arthritis and busar cyst. I have recovered 80% of my range of motion. I was practically in full frozen shoulder mode prior to the surgery. My surgeon said that in 2000 of these surgeries he'd never seen as much scar tissue as I had and had to cut it out rather than just grind it. He's been incredibly parsimonious with the pain meds indicating that after ten days a couple of tylenol should cover it. Fortunately my own doc has prescribed some hydrocodone/acetiminophin to help with the pain. Last night was the firs time I only got up once in the night with pain and have been sleeping in my lazy boy for the last three weeks. I have been doing my own therapy at home (Surgeon didn't think it was necessary yet) and my Doc wants me to wait another couple weeks before starting formal PT. Ice helps after my exercises but I just starting putting a heating pad on it at night at that helps a bunch. I'm fortunate to have my own hot tub and that really takes the edge off. But, my right shoulder (dominant) is now starting to ache and that is freaking me out. I'm 61 year old male, work from home at the computer and try to walk three miles a day. Being out walking keeps my mind off of it so I try to stay active. Will repost in a couple of weeks to update progress. Hopefully I will be one of the (few,apparently) lucky ones when it comes to post surgical pain.

Mar 04, 2012
relay NEW
by: brian 35

i had a biceps cut and screwed to the bone a full joint shave because of a rotator cuff damage i had this operation done on the 27th febuary am already moving my arm not a lot but managing to lift it by its self now i am suffering in certain movents but am out of my sling i am 6 days post operative the pain is bearable am not taking any of my pain killers hoping to be back in work by june i start my physiotherapy on the 13th march and 5 more weeks to see the consultant

Mar 05, 2012
To Kathy NEW
by: Anonymous

I to have been dealing with shoulder problems, frist was slap2, the second was from bone spurs because they did'nt know my collar bone was factured and third will be because the specialist says the bicep tendon is still damaged and have a tremendous amount of scar tissue but also have that pain in the back of my shoulder close to the spine that can't be touched. The more I do the worse that pain is and no one can tell me what it is, the pain is worst than the shoulder pain by far and everyone knows how bad the shoulder pain is.I fell in a hole shoulder frist. If anyone knows what that spine pain is which radiates to the shoulder is please please let me know what it could be!!!!!!

Mar 12, 2012
Recovery following short tendon repair NEW
by: Jack

I've read many of the comments in this section and must count myself lucky not to have experienced a prolonged recovery or pain from my procedure which was done 1-06-2012. Besides having the short tendon severed I had some shoulder spurs and arthritis which the doctor cleaned up. My partically torn short tendon was completely severed in the surgery. Recovery has been quite uneventful and relatively pain free. Physical Therapy for 6 weeks with about 90% ROM and since released by both PT and physician. I took pain meds for two days post-op and nothing since. It may be that the work I had done was not as extensive as some I've read about but I just wanted those of you that are contemplating shoulder surgery that not all turn out badly. Still experiencing some difficulty getting a comfortable nights sleep however, and hurts some while reaching up for things but I expect that to improve over time as it has only been 8 weeks since surgery. I'm a golfer (played last week for the first time) and I've always been phyically active but 71 years old now so there is hope for those my age to do well.

Mar 12, 2012
Recovery following short tendon repair NEW
by: Jack

I've read many of the comments in this section and must count myself lucky not to have experienced a prolonged recovery or pain from my procedure which was done 1-06-2012. Besides having the short tendon severed I had some shoulder spurs and arthritis which the doctor cleaned up. My partically torn short tendon was completely severed in the surgery. Recovery has been quite uneventful and relatively pain free. Physical Therapy for 6 weeks with about 90% ROM and since released by both PT and physician. I took pain meds for two days post-op and nothing since. It may be that the work I had done was not as extensive as some I've read about but I just wanted those of you that are contemplating shoulder surgery that not all turn out badly. Still experiencing some difficulty getting a comfortable nights sleep however, and hurts some while reaching up for things but I expect that to improve over time as it has only been 8 weeks since surgery. I'm a golfer (played last week for the first time) and I've always been phyically active but 71 years old now so there is hope for those my age to do well.

Mar 20, 2012
What should we expect? NEW
by: Worried Wife

My husband, 40 yr old warehousemen, had shoulder surgery almost two years ago and then subsequent elbow surgery to relocate a nerve. Now they suspect that he has a severe tear in his long head bicep and are recommending a bicep tenotomy. My quetion is this, How much strength will he lose if they severe that bicep? Will he be able to return to his job as a warehousemen? Will he finally be relieved of the pain?

Mar 26, 2012
5 MM TEER ON MY TENDON NEW
by: Anonymous



I AM 70 YEARS OLD( 17 YEARS WORKING IN HOME HEALTH CARE)
ALSO I HAVE: OA,NEWROPATHY,FIBROMALGIA,VASCULAR ISSUES,ALSO I AM A DIABETIC 2, & NOW I HAVE A 5 MM TEER ON MY RIGHT SHOULDER. DOC WANTS TO OPERATE.
AM I A CANDIDATE FOR ALL THIS? HELP!!!

Mar 27, 2012
Damned ongoing pain from rotator surgery NEW
by: bill bryan

I hate to sound like a broken record, but my rotator cuff surgery (right shoulder) was Dec21st...went thru the 'sling' and Phy Ther for 2 + months..am STILL in MORE pain (shoulder down to hand) than before surgery...I do have Range of Motion, but not a lot of strength..doc will not give me narcotic (percoset or hydrocodone) for pain anymore and to be honest all they did was make me goofy and little if nothing to take the pain away..Doc keeps saying my tear was a very bad one and time will make pain go away..BS, why is it getting worse.any ideas as to a drug or anything to friggin help..I have posted on here before. and I too and 70 yoa and don't wanna live my remaining years in pain. thanks

Apr 11, 2012
3 weeks since NEW
by: Micki

After a fall in feb on March 20 I had artiscopic surgery
Massive full tear of RC, bone spurs and bicep release
I came hone with the shoulder stabilizer w the metal but found it painful and have it down to the sling
I was so surprised that with this 'worst tear' he had seen
That majority of my pain has been the bicep.
Percocet helped all but that . Now it's 3 weeks and the pain wearing off there but I am still constantly icing - with ice packs
I started pt after 10 days and those nights are the very worst
Last night I did need 3 Percocet but never take then in daytime or none PT days
I'm very determined to work through this therapy and get back full range of motion but it's hard not to get weepy and depressed
I have this fear inside that maybe I have re torn the cuff
It's so fragile and I am left handed and it's my left side
I live alone 62 year old F and it's not realistic to just do ' nothing'
Im in good shape and I pray to get they this
Long recovery. It's so lonely people don't realize how
Hard this is

Apr 11, 2012
3 weeks since NEW
by: Micki

After a fall in feb on March 20 I had artiscopic surgery
Massive full tear of RC, bone spurs and bicep release
I came hone with the shoulder stabilizer w the metal but found it painful and have it down to the sling
I was so surprised that with this 'worst tear' he had seen
That majority of my pain has been the bicep.
Percocet helped all but that . Now it's 3 weeks and the pain wearing off there but I am still constantly icing - with ice packs
I started pt after 10 days and those nights are the very worst
Last night I did need 3 Percocet but never take then in daytime or none PT days
I'm very determined to work through this therapy and get back full range of motion but it's hard not to get weepy and depressed
I have this fear inside that maybe I have re torn the cuff
It's so fragile and I am left handed and it's my left side
I live alone 62 year old F and it's not realistic to just do ' nothing'
Im in good shape and I pray to get they this
Long recovery. It's so lonely people don't realize how
Hard this is

May 09, 2012
Opinions NEW
by: Anonymous

It seems as though most everyone that has posted has had severe pain. Has anyone found a site with good/bad responses? I have to decide soon.

May 09, 2012
Opinions NEW
by: Anonymous

It seems as though most everyone that has posted has had severe pain. Has anyone found a site with good/bad responses? I have to decide soon.

May 09, 2012
2nd surgery. NEW
by: Bill in Virginia

After having rotator cuff surgery as posted above on Dec 21 last, I have been in constant pain since..doc kept saying 'it takes time'...went to 2nd doc , different hospital, MRI and he says it is torn, but I have been in pain since day one of last surgery, so this Friday I have 2nd surgery same should, different doctor , different hospital...he says 50/50 chance and if not successful , cortizone shots til they wear out, then reverse shoulder replacement...hell, I am 70 years old..fingers crossed

May 21, 2012
carpal tunnel from bad shoulder NEW
by: eagleswings1

Information I thought I'd share...if you've had a bad shoulder and now suffer from hand & wrist pain or tingling/numbness you may have carpal tunnel due to lifting using strength in wrist to avoid hurting shoulder more. I didn't realize how common that is and that you should receive treatment right away and don't wait!

May 21, 2012
carpal tunnel from bad shoulder NEW
by: eagleswings1

Information I thought I'd share...if you've had a bad shoulder and now suffer from hand & wrist pain or tingling/numbness you may have carpal tunnel due to lifting using strength in wrist to avoid hurting shoulder more. I didn't realize how common that is and that you should receive treatment right away and don't wait!

Jul 08, 2012
Did anybody opt not to have the surgery? NEW
by: Mark

My question is for anybody that has chosen not to have the bicep reattachment surgery and what has happened to your arm since you decided not to? I did something stupid while being mad and snapped my bicep tendon completely like a rubber band at the forarm, not the shoulder. So I have the bruising and the popeye look but after talking to the docter and hearing all the risks I've decided not to have surgery. I'm a fit 58 years old that likes to excercise and lift weights. Nothing extreme, just to maintain myself and look decent. It's been 8 days since the injury and the pain is nil after taking 2 naproxen a day and icing. Experts say that you would 30 to 40% of your strength in that arm but would heal with no pain. Has anybody been in this position and opted not to have the surgery and are happy they didn't because you are living life just fine? Thanks.

Jul 08, 2012
Did anybody opt not to have the surgery? NEW
by: Mark

My question is for anybody that has chosen not to have the bicep reattachment surgery and what has happened to your arm since you decided not to? I did something stupid while being mad and snapped my bicep tendon completely like a rubber band at the forarm, not the shoulder. So I have the bruising and the popeye look but after talking to the docter and hearing all the risks I've decided not to have surgery. I'm a fit 58 years old that likes to excercise and lift weights. Nothing extreme, just to maintain myself and look decent. It's been 8 days since the injury and the pain is nil after taking 2 naproxen a day and icing. Experts say that you would 30 to 40% of your strength in that arm but would heal with no pain. Has anybody been in this position and opted not to have the surgery and are happy they didn't because you are living life just fine? Thanks.

Jul 08, 2012
Did anybody opt not to have the surgery? NEW
by: Mark

My question is for anybody that has chosen not to have the bicep reattachment surgery and what has happened to your arm since you decided not to? I did something stupid while being mad and snapped my bicep tendon completely like a rubber band at the forarm, not the shoulder. So I have the bruising and the popeye look but after talking to the docter and hearing all the risks I've decided not to have surgery. I'm a fit 58 years old that likes to excercise and lift weights. Nothing extreme, just to maintain myself and look decent. It's been 8 days since the injury and the pain is nil after taking 2 naproxen a day and icing. Experts say that you would 30 to 40% of your strength in that arm but would heal with no pain. Has anybody been in this position and opted not to have the surgery and are happy they didn't because you are living life just fine? Thanks.

Jul 08, 2012
shoulder op NEW
by: tazzie

its been 7 months since my operation on cuff repair, resection and decompression, and im still suffering, had mri in may, which showed tendon was swollen and had infection in shoulder, been on anti-biotics for 6 weeks, consultant wants me to stay on them as long as i can, what worries me is op was months ago and i was given anti-biotics may 30th, shoulder is cracking and grinding really bad now, its so awful, and pain still keeps waking me up.

Jul 08, 2012
shoulder op NEW
by: tazzie

its been 7 months since my operation on cuff repair, resection and decompression, and im still suffering, had mri in may, which showed tendon was swollen and had infection in shoulder, been on anti-biotics for 6 weeks, consultant wants me to stay on them as long as i can, what worries me is op was months ago and i was given anti-biotics may 30th, shoulder is cracking and grinding really bad now, its so awful, and pain still keeps waking me up.

Aug 07, 2012
biceps tenotomy NEW
by: Anonymous

I had a full cuff repair & decompression on my left shoulder 4 yrs ago. Lots of analgesics later, and some good physio, my shoulder is practically back to full strength. I'm facing another partial cuff repair to my other shoulder after a decompression failed to resolve the problem. I'll be having a biceps tenotomy along with the repair. I'm not looking forward to the post op pain, (which was pretty severe the last two ops), but knowing how well my left shoulder has done gives me hope for this op. For all those who face the pain of shoulder surgery, it does get better (for most of us).

Aug 07, 2012
biceps tenotomy NEW
by: Anonymous

I had a full cuff repair & decompression on my left shoulder 4 yrs ago. Lots of analgesics later, and some good physio, my shoulder is practically back to full strength. I'm facing another partial cuff repair to my other shoulder after a decompression failed to resolve the problem. I'll be having a biceps tenotomy along with the repair. I'm not looking forward to the post op pain, (which was pretty severe the last two ops), but knowing how well my left shoulder has done gives me hope for this op. For all those who face the pain of shoulder surgery, it does get better (for most of us).

Aug 07, 2012
biceps tenotomy NEW
by: Anonymous

I had a full cuff repair & decompression on my left shoulder 4 yrs ago. Lots of analgesics later, and some good physio, my shoulder is practically back to full strength. I'm facing another partial cuff repair to my other shoulder after a decompression failed to resolve the problem. I'll be having a biceps tenotomy along with the repair. I'm not looking forward to the post op pain, (which was pretty severe the last two ops), but knowing how well my left shoulder has done gives me hope for this op. For all those who face the pain of shoulder surgery, it does get better (for most of us).

Aug 07, 2012
biceps tenotomy NEW
by: Anonymous

I had a full cuff repair & decompression on my left shoulder 4 yrs ago. Lots of analgesics later, and some good physio, my shoulder is practically back to full strength. I'm facing another partial cuff repair to my other shoulder after a decompression failed to resolve the problem. I'll be having a biceps tenotomy along with the repair. I'm not looking forward to the post op pain, (which was pretty severe the last two ops), but knowing how well my left shoulder has done gives me hope for this op. For all those who face the pain of shoulder surgery, it does get better (for most of us).

Aug 07, 2012
biceps tenotomy NEW
by: Anonymous

I had a full cuff repair & decompression on my left shoulder 4 yrs ago. Lots of analgesics later, and some good physio, my shoulder is practically back to full strength. I'm facing another partial cuff repair to my other shoulder after a decompression failed to resolve the problem. I'll be having a biceps tenotomy along with the repair. I'm not looking forward to the post op pain, (which was pretty severe the last two ops), but knowing how well my left shoulder has done gives me hope for this op. For all those who face the pain of shoulder surgery, it does get better (for most of us).

Aug 07, 2012
biceps tenotomy NEW
by: Anonymous

I had a full cuff repair & decompression on my left shoulder 4 yrs ago. Lots of analgesics later, and some good physio, my shoulder is practically back to full strength. I'm facing another partial cuff repair to my other shoulder after a decompression failed to resolve the problem. I'll be having a biceps tenotomy along with the repair. I'm not looking forward to the post op pain, (which was pretty severe the last two ops), but knowing how well my left shoulder has done gives me hope for this op. For all those who face the pain of shoulder surgery, it does get better (for most of us).

Aug 22, 2012
Large full thickness tear supraspinatus tendon NEW
by: Strateshot

Large full thickness tear supraspinatus tendon,extensive partial tearing infraspinatus tendon,joint and bursal effusions w/loose body formation was what the MRI showed,with complete rupture of rotator cuff,tendon torn loose from bone,bicep had to have 1&1/2" cut off because it was shredded.Had to cut bicep loose,and reattach it and tendon back with a screw,and cut off end of collar bone & do a nerve block.After soreness left from surgery it wasn't bad,but last 3 weeks the shoulder,bicep and screw region has really been hurting.Had surgery 6/27/12,8 weeks ago.Have been in therapy since 7/16,just trying to loosen up.I'm wondering if anyone else has this kind of pain after all this time.I have a TENS unit don't know if I should use that,I use ice,after excercises,haven't even started strengthening. yet,can't even get my hand above my head.Dr. said app.9 weeks to heal,it's been 8,is the pain and lack of strength normal? Makes me mad,after I'd been off 7 weeks,going through red tape of comp,found out I could only be off 6.Lost my job,ins,etc.Trying to do my job,catching a wet piece of drywall from ceiling.Just wondering if anyone has had this much damage,and how long for the pain and how long to heal to maybe go back to work,I do painting and drywall repair and finishing.Don't know if I'll be able to do that anymore,I'm 62,and feel like I should be healing faster than this.If anyone has gone through something similiar,am I on course for healing,and good luck to everyone else.

Aug 26, 2012
Rotator tear and Bicep tenotomy NEW
by: Anonymous

I had a rollerblade accident and tore my rotator cuff. I was adviced by numerous doctors to have my clavicle bone cut off about a half inch. My chiropractor adviced me not to have it done because he had seen so many patients in pain after having this surgery. I waited ten years to find a different doctor who told me it wasn't necessary to cut this bone off. Dr. Yamaguchi in St. Louis did the surgery. I'm playing tennis again and have a very hard serve if I choose to use it. I've been adviced to use more rotation to keep my rotator cuff in good condition. My husband had a bad fall also from having a ladder buckle on him. He had his first surgery by one doctor that lasted 9 years. The pain was getting so bad that he went to my doctor this time, Doctor Yamaguchi in st. Louis. Hr cut hi bicep tendon, bicep tenotomy. He is doing great. No more pain in his wrist or shoulder that was keeping him up at night. This will last him a few years until he has a whole shoulder replacement. I highly recommend Dr. Yamaguchi at Wash Orthropedics in St Louis. Good luck to you all!

Sep 01, 2012
Surprised tenotomy patient NEW
by: pam

I had a tenotomy in July 2011 following years of frozen shoulder pain and eventually, a very bad rotator cuff tear. Like many of the people on this site, I thought I was only going to have the shoulder joint cleaned out and the torn cuff repaired. I had not even heard of a tenotomy However, the pain has gone and although I can't raise my arm much above chest height or reach very far across my torso, I am satisfied that the surgeon made the best out of a bad job. I can find a way around most movement restrictions and have also discovered that I can get increased strength and mobility in my arm by bending at the waist! Now, if I could only improve the movemnt in my neck .............

Sep 03, 2012
tenetomy and thumb numbness and tingling NEW
by: Anonymous

i had a tenetomy in july. my thumb still feels numb and tingling. according to several tests i have no carpal tunnel or cervical problems. this happened after the surgery. i think it has to do with a nerve and the anesthesia. anyone have the same problem?

Sep 10, 2012
rotator cuff repair NEW
by: Anonymous

I had rotator sugery in March, doc also performed a tenotomy but I wasnt told until after the surgery. This has been the biggest pain.. Cramping and soreness even at rest. I tried cleaning my windshield this past weekend and could tell that It was difficult without pain. I took a pain killer afterwards and in an hour the pain started to subside. Point is I dont want to keep the pain away by taking meds and I am upset about not being prepared correctly for this. I had rotator surgery on other shoulder a few years back and that went stellar but i didnt have this bicep procedure.

I am very weak in this arm and compensating alot with other shoulder which is starting to show the strain.

Sep 19, 2012
Bicep tendon Pain NEW
by: Anonymous

I had 2 torn tendons to right rotator cuff and had surgery in June 2012. Started therapy with the range of motion chair the day after surgery. A month after surgery, I started with a physical therapist. I'm now going into my 4 th month of healing and can finally lift my right arm up enough to wash my hair. The pain in my right shoulder Bicep tendon is excrutiating. It's constantly rubbing on something inside my shoulder and arm. Sometimes it feels like it's hung up on something and snaps loose similar to a rubber band. I also get numbness and discoloration in my right hand now. My elbow also hurts and is difficult to straighten. I've had problems with doing my therapy but practiced them over and over until I could do the therapy exercises. They keep giving me exercises and then when the pain gets too bad they tell me to stop the exercises and start all over with stretches. Not to be negative but my healing peaked when I could drive and tie my shoes. Everything else is a challenge and unless there is a miracle, I don't see me going back to what I use to do for a living. Yes I'm glad I had the surgery because now I don't lean to the right or walk to the right but the healing process is very slow and painful.

Sep 19, 2012
Bicep tendon Pain NEW
by: Anonymous

I had 2 torn tendons to right rotator cuff and had surgery in June 2012. Started therapy with the range of motion chair the day after surgery. A month after surgery, I started with a physical therapist. I'm now going into my 4 th month of healing and can finally lift my right arm up enough to wash my hair. The pain in my right shoulder Bicep tendon is excrutiating. It's constantly rubbing on something inside my shoulder and arm. Sometimes it feels like it's hung up on something and snaps loose similar to a rubber band. I also get numbness and discoloration in my right hand now. My elbow also hurts and is difficult to straighten. I've had problems with doing my therapy but practiced them over and over until I could do the therapy exercises. They keep giving me exercises and then when the pain gets too bad they tell me to stop the exercises and start all over with stretches. Not to be negative but my healing peaked when I could drive and tie my shoes. Everything else is a challenge and unless there is a miracle, I don't see me going back to what I use to do for a living. Yes I'm glad I had the surgery because now I don't lean to the right or walk to the right but the healing process is very slow and painful.

Oct 23, 2012
3rdshoulder op NEW
by: Mye

I am having my 3rd shoulder op on rt shoulder on fri 26th oct to have a tenotomy, my surgeon has recommended this as a relief from pain, I am seriously worried now after reading comment on here, they are saying my shoulder is in a bad way, I need rotary cuff repair and ACJ cleaned and tendons removed which will leave me with a popeye?? Will I still have strength in my arm? I have all the Q's you are suppose to ask but they fob u off with u b ok any help pls?

Oct 23, 2012
3rdshoulder op NEW
by: Mye

I am having my 3rd shoulder op on rt shoulder on fri 26th oct to have a tenotomy, my surgeon has recommended this as a relief from pain, I am seriously worried now after reading comment on here, they are saying my shoulder is in a bad way, I need rotary cuff repair and ACJ cleaned and tendons removed which will leave me with a popeye?? Will I still have strength in my arm? I have all the Q's you are suppose to ask but they fob u off with u b ok any help pls?

Nov 04, 2012
Good So Far NEW
by: Anonymous

After several years of pain, had my first shoulder surgery Oct. 24 for a torn rotator cuff. Surgeon found that cuff was not completely torn so elected to remove a spur, generally clean up the joint and leave the cuff alone. He did also find a badly torn upper bicep tendon which he cut then secured with an anchor. We did not know if the anchor would hold over time and in fact the tendon broke away the day after surgery. It is now not quite two weeks after surgery. I do have the Popeye effect but no pain at all and full range of motion. After reading many of the previous posts, I guess I am really lucky and/or had a great surgeon.

Nov 24, 2012
bicep tendotomy NEW
by: Anonymous

can this be reversed?BECAME

Dec 06, 2012
confused NEW
by: Anonymous

Injured shoulder in May at work. partial tear laborum, torn bicep, frozen shoulder, inflamation. Did therapy June,July 2 cortizone injections, Back to therapy Aug,Sept 2 more injections. Back to therapy Oct no good. Doctor has to get Permission from OWCP. Doc said you will be off work 12 weeks. Nov 20 had surgery 2 5mm screws to reatach bicep, cut out inflammation fix partial tear. The block was great. Nov 28 post op follow up. Do not even lift a can for next 12 weeks. Arm in sling 24/7. Doc gave slip return to work but no use of arm. This is my dominant arm, also doc stated no driving. I work as an industrial painter. The Pain is great. This is my second shoulder surgery in 5 years.The first was just a cleaning.

Dec 21, 2012
Bucep Tenotomy and forearm/wrist pain NEW
by: Danny

I had a bicep tenotomy today and plan on starting the pendulum movement inthe morning (very slow and liited, just to move). I also had a tennis rlbow surgety inJuly. In August the pain to my forearm came raging back. Turns out, I slso have 'Radial Tunnrl Syndrom', which affects only 10% of folks with lateral epicondilitis. Having a aurgery to help release the radial nerve in Jan. it isadeep burningfeeling and cramping. It runs from elbow to wrist, up top of hand snd to the two middle finger. Ask your orthopedist if you are experience this. There are much more gentle treatments, just notfor my particular case.

Dec 31, 2012
Easy recovery @ 2 wks-tenotomy. NEW
by: Danny A

I had bicep tenotomy and a clavical excision on left shoulder two weeks ago. I had an ice water bag that kept the water flowing from a small cooler strapped to my shoulder for the first 72 hours. I took the pain meds every 4 hours, decreasing to only at night before bed by end of first week. No longer on any meds and the entire procedure never hurt more than a little ache in the shoulder like a flu shot. It does hurt to try to use it for any lifting, which is a huge no no!!! But I mean lifting a half gallon of milk, assisted with right hsnd, from fridge to counter. I start PT in 4 days. I have a feeling that is when I'll experience pain. Everyone's experience with this surgery seems yo be different. Mine has been as easy as I could have hoped for. I expected great pain from shaving off the end of the clavicle, but it's really been a breeze! Had it scoped so only 4 stitches and 3 incisions, each less than an inch. I believe a great surgeon, my pain threshold, and early and constant cold on the shoulder are why this has been easy.

Feb 06, 2013
tenotomy strength after surgery NEW
by: shoulder pain whinger

i had a pec major tendon reattached but also agreed to a bicep tendonosis due to chronic pain in shoulder, however just been to first physio after sling removed and been informed they performed a tenotomy which means its just hanging. I,m quite annoyed about this because i ride horses and im worried i wont get my strenth back and now its too late to re-attach it to humerus. i can't tell at the moment if its causing me much pain because i,ve had open surgery for pec tear and thats quite painful at the site its been attached, so anyone have any advice as to wether i should get enough strength back to hold on to strong horses if they pull.

Feb 06, 2013
Rotator Cuff Surgery (Finally) NEW
by: William Bryan

This will be my last post on this thread (which has been very informative)..After my SECOND rotator cuff surgery with a 2nd doctor who said I had little chance of success as my injured area was just a thin sliver for him to work with and that made the success rate minimal..Well, being in such pain, I had little to do but choose the surgery and hope for the best..After the operation (procedure), I went through about 6 weeks of twice a day physical therapy about 60 miles from where I live and noticed an improvement of mobility, range of motion AND reduction (slowly) in pain...I had to stop PT because another 'issue' entered my life (throat cancer)..anyway the 2nd rotator cuff surgery was in December of 2011 (about the time cancer surfaced) and I went through PT til May or so..a month of two after I ceased PT, I noticed that I had full use of the right arm and little or NO pain (after over a year since the 1st operation. As I write this, it is my pleasure to state that a few months ago, the realization that I was FULLY healed popped into my mind. I had not even been aware that I was 'normal' again and I now sit here with full motion, and zero pain..I'm glad that is over and thanks to the Doctor who took a chance and WAS successful..now to conquer the cancer for which I have endured one session of 36 radiation treatments which took the cancer away for about 4 months and since it's re-occurence I went through a new type of radiation called Proton Therapy Radiation (60)which focus's the beam on the cancer cells themselves and not the good cells, as well as a number of sessions of chemo (to which I had to holler 'uncle' and quit with 4 treatments to go due to the side effects combined with those from radiation. At this point (6 weeks after treatments were ceased) I have MORE pain in my throat than ever before and since it is so raw they can't 'look' down there to see if the cancer is gone..supposedly I should see a change after 6 or so weeks (now) in my pain and healing level..sorry to make most of this about my cancer, but I did want to post my happiness with my successful rotator cuff surgery which sneaked up on me to the point I was unaware of it and complacent..Good luck to all others (rotator cuff AND Cancer) patients..God Bless

Feb 06, 2013
one year NEW
by: Erika

So on Feb 16th it will be one year since having my bicep tendon attached to this titanium screw. having my collar bone shaved and arthritis taken out. well............its worse, hate it more when it rains or snows. i wish everyone good luck and stay envious of those who got to be pain free.

Feb 06, 2013
re; William Bryan NEW
by: Erika

Lot of luck coming your way Mr. Bryan and lots of prayers

Feb 06, 2013
Re- cancer NEW
by: Shoulder pain whinger

Hi William. Well I hope you kick that cancer out if your life u sound positive. Keep that up, we whinge about pain and limitations but were the lucky ones really if that's all that's wrong with us. I wish u all the best

Feb 06, 2013
replies to comments NEW
by: William Bryan

Erika - I could be wrong but I think the surgeon in my rotator cuff issue used a titanium screw to hold what little tissue was there and as stated, so far it is successful..don't know why you would have a problem (but them I am a 70 year old Navy Chief and NOT a doctor..prayers from me your way.. and to the 'Whiner'..thank you for your comments and if you have issues, you too have my prayers..I DO believe for the most part they work..at least I put stock in it and one of my best friends and supporters now is my Pastor of the church I became a member of a few months back and accepted Christ as my leader..and no, I don't 'shove it' down people's throats...God Bless you and may you have a pain free happy life.

Feb 28, 2013
bicep tenotomy cramps NEW
by: shirley...the whinger

following from my last comment, ,my op was 4.1.13 and my sling came off 4 wks later i had pec major repair and tendon tenotomy. I would suggest making a diary and write down daily your pain and restrictions, i have and although its very very slow its sometimes comforting to see i am actually improving but its 8 wks now and my rom is getting better but the pain is not and in the middle of the night if i turn my arm or stretch without thinking my bicep goes into a cramp like spasm that makes me jump up and cry its that bad, I wish i never had this done it was my pec i was more concerned over and now i have another problem. But a little strength is coming back as i,m now lifting my arm on its own but the whole shoulder seems to bunch up and lift so its still quite swollen, i,m not saying this to depress people just so they can see what to expect and if anyone is fully recovered now with no pain who previously commented on here i would be grateful if they would let me know how long i should expect to be having these spasms in bicep

May 18, 2013
SLAP Tear repair- 2 failed Biceps Tenodesis=Biceps Tenotomy NEW
by: Colorado Rock Climber

Summary:
April 2 2013- Left SLAP Repair, Subacromial space decompression/Acromioplasty, Biceps Tenodesis.
May 9 2013- Biceps Tenodesis Revision.
May 17 2013- Exam reveals Biceps Tenodesis Revision failure=Biceps Tenotomy.

I have a Popeye Deformity. I understand some rehab practices are recommending a compression garment or ace bandage wrap over the biceps to prevent the long head of the Biceps from falling and bunching grotesquely near the elbow. Can anyone share some knowledge on this?


May 18, 2013
SLAP Tear repair- 2 failed Biceps Tenodesis=Biceps Tenotomy NEW
by: Colorado Rock Climber

Summary:
April 2 2013- Left SLAP Repair, Subacromial space decompression/Acromioplasty, Biceps Tenodesis.
May 9 2013- Biceps Tenodesis Revision.
May 17 2013- Exam reveals Biceps Tenodesis Revision failure=Biceps Tenotomy.

I have a Popeye Deformity. I understand some rehab practices are recommending a compression garment or ace bandage wrap over the biceps to prevent the long head of the Biceps from falling and bunching grotesquely near the elbow. Can anyone share some knowledge on this?


May 20, 2013
Improving NEW
by: Anonymous

Thanks William, as you can see I don't check this feed that much. But things are improving. I try to move the shoulder more and more as I go through the day. Hoping that this improves not only my range of motion but also the pain. Hope all is well.

Nov 11, 2013
Positive mind NEW
by: Craig

I had left shoulder debridement of anterior labrum, biceps tenotomy, arthroscopic acromioplasty, subacromial decompression, and distal clavicle excision eight weeks ago. Surgery was on Tuesday and I went back to work (upper management desk job) on Thursday. I was in a sling for 5 days and then took it off - it was cramping my biceps to leave it static for so long. I was doing pendulum motion excercises the day after the surgery at least 4 times a day. Pain meds for the first 2 days and nothing since - I would rather know what is going on with my body than mask it over. I have the mantra that pain is my friend and learn to live with it as part of my physical environment - my wife thinks I'm crazy! I'm 62 and very active - surf or golf every day, but it's been 9 weeks since I've done either. I've just begun to do short pitches and putting at the golf course - ride the cart with friends and just walk to the green while they catch up playing the hole. I'm disciplined enough to wait till I know when I can do a full swing and get back to my beloved surfing - but I'm not going to undo a lot of work by being greedy for fun. Good luck to all those in the same boat!

Nov 18, 2013
tenotomy or tenodesis NEW
by: Stan R

Post surgery perspective. 53 year old active male. full thickness tear of supraspinatus and mild tear of subscapularis. My biceps tendon was cut with a tenotomy procedure. GET THE INFO BEFORE. I was not told about this procedure or what might happen. BICEPS PULLS FREE and POPEYE DEFORMITY. This happens almost half the time with male patients. I found most medical studies fell into the 40 to 45 percent zone with the worst around 85 percent failure rate. failure of the long head biceps tendon to attach at the bicipital groove. I now am searching for a tenodesis to fix this. My original surgery cash price was $15,000 CASH paid before the surgery. The repair of this will cost me $8,000 CASH prior to surgery. THIS COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED BY SIMPLY DOEING A TENODESIS WHILE I WAS IN SURGERY FOR MY ROTATOR CUFF REPAIR!!!! BE INFORMED. I tried to be but still got deceived by my surgeon and now have additional expenses and additional recovery time additional loss of income additional pain. surgery was sept of 2013
Stan R. Shelton WA

Nov 18, 2013
To Stan NEW
by: Erika

I am sorry to hear this Stan, but you are right on the button about getting all the information and being informed. I hope things improve for you.

Dec 01, 2013
tenotomy NEW
by: rjo

Wish I found your site before surgery. I'm an active 54 yr old man who needs arm power for work and also weight/power lifts for a hobby. Went to shoulder specialist for reoccurring pain during heavy bench press and also had a painless clicking/catching sensation during normal arm swing while walking. X rays, MRI, and diagnosis was small tendon tear in supraspinatus attachment at the arm bone, bone spurs, and impingement. Proceeded with arthroscopic surgery for a good cleanup and tendon repair to make sure shoulder would last. Went back for follow up and discovered surgeon cut the biceps tendon and let it fall. This was never discussed or even considered. After getting past the extreme frustration, trying top decide if it should be reattached. Do not the want to experience the weakness or deformity. Any advice appreciated.

Dec 02, 2013
TeNOTomy NEW
by: Stan R

Sorry to hear your story, sounds like mine. I am still trying to get the repair surgery done.

SUB PECTORAL TENODESIS

I do not want to go through the rest of my life with weakness, pain, disfigurement. My emotional statement is WTF would a sugeon do this to anyone. I know the oath... First do no harm, right? Then why ever do a tenotomy? TeNOTomy Pronounced tin Not on me.

Dec 02, 2013
TeNOTomy NEW
by: Stan R

Sorry to hear your story, sounds like mine. I am still trying to get the repair surgery done.

SUB PECTORAL TENODESIS

I do not want to go through the rest of my life with weakness, pain, disfigurement. My emotional statement is WTF would a sugeon do this to anyone. I know the oath... First do no harm, right? Then why ever do a tenotomy? TeNOTomy Pronounced tin Not on me.

Dec 31, 2013
Find the right Doctor NEW
by: DR

Tenodisis on left shoulder 10 months ago...I was playing golf with full swings at five months. Still sore at times, flexibility stretches really help. Since 2008, four surgeries on right shoulder and bicep including broken radius at elbow and wrist. 4th surgery 10 weeks ago, rotator, Impingement, secondary release of bicep from previous tenotomy because it released and didn't fall correctly. Great ROM in 10 weeks and look forward to golf in 10 more weeks. Once again, a few minutes of home stretching really helps outside of normal PT.

The big difference was finding the correct Ortho surgeon that does only shoulders and has a fellowship in shoulders. It's been well worth the 3 hour drive one way to have an expert work on me instead of surgeons that may be good but not a shoulder expert. Technology has changed but many docs use procedures they're comfortable from yesteryear.

I'm now a firm believer that when you need a specialist, a doctor that has completed a fellowship (additional specialized training) is the only way to have confident peace of mind.

Jan 15, 2014
pain NEW
by: Anonymous

i had a supraspinatus tear 100% and i was told it was repairable. I had the joint cleaned out and a biceps tenotomy last April 2013. been in severe pain ever since now i have been told i need a tendon transfer to get rid of the pain.

Jan 15, 2014
pain NEW
by: Anonymous

i had a supraspinatus tear 100% and i was told it was unrepairable. I had the joint cleaned out and a biceps tenotomy last April 2013. been in severe pain ever since now i have been told i need a tendon transfer to get rid of the pain.I dont think it will ever get better.

Jan 19, 2014
Left biceps tenodesis/distal clavicle excision/sub acromial decompression NEW
by: JLK

Had the surgery on 12/13/13. My questions for those of you that have already "rehabbed" back to health:

-how long did it take to be pain free? (I'm still having gnawing pain and don't know if it's "normal" at 5 weeks post-op.

-we're you able to lift weight, as a form of exercise? When?

-are you pleased with your results?

Thanks

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