4 months after labral tear surgery

by Debbie
(California)

I had surgery to repair a slap tear, bicep tendon reattachment and decompression 4 months ago. I still have quite a bit of pain and haven't had a decent night's sleep since the surgery. My range of motion is limited, especially in external rotation. I do the stretches and go to physical therapy. Is this part of the normal recovery and will it continue much longer?

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Nov 08, 2008
labral repair
by: Bart - SII

Most of the time this type of surgery is feeling better after 4 months - motion restriction is common, especially the last 5-10 degrees, but continued like you are describing is not.

I would talk to your doctor and therapists and find out from them exactly what they think is causing your continued pain and problems. They should be able to give you specifics - muscle weakness, what they saw inside the shoulder that could be causing this continued pain, etc.

It does take quite awhile to recover from this type of procedure, but you should be seeing some improvement.

Bart

Nov 12, 2008
More surgery
by: Debbie

Thank you so much for your resonse as I called my surgeon and made an appointment. I saw him the other day and it was finally acknowledged that something was missed during the last surgery and that now I need surgery to repair a full thickness rotator cuff tear.
I have a few questions now. I don't have full range of motion back yet and wonder if this will negatively impact the recovery from the surgery.
Since it's only been four months since the last surgery will this be a problem? Will the rehab be more difficult? Will it eliminate the pain and restore strength? I have asked these questions but the responses are somewhat vague so a second thought would be appreciated. I'm really nervous about going through this again and was wondering how any of your patients who had a second surgery so soon fared? Thanks so much for your feedback.

Nov 13, 2008
rotator cuff repair
by: Bart - SII

It shouldn't be an issue with regards to healing having a second surgery 4 months later. Your labrum and biceps should be healed well enough to allow for the RC repair.

The lack of motion could be an issue, however, that really is dependent upon what is causing your motion restriction. If it is due to pain and weakness, then the next surgery should address much of this. If it is due to adhesions or capsular restrictions, that can likely be taken care of during the procedure as well.

The rehabilitation after a RC repair is similar to the labral repair / biceps tenodesis procedure. You will likely be immobilized in a sling for several weeks - restricted from any type of active motion of the arm so as not to stress the repair site. Then your rehab will focus on shoulder range of motion, strengthening, and endurance.

It will be another lengthy recovery, but it should be better in that they will have addressed the problems and you shouldn't have the continued pain because the cause has been found and fixed.

Bart

Dec 29, 2008
I had the same surgery
by: Anonymous

I had a subacromial decompression and a labral slap tear type 2 surgery a little less than 3 months ago. there is still pain where the slap tear was repaired. I have very good range and am doing a lot of different exercises including weights. The first two and a half months my range of movement was not good at all. MY physical therapist was concerned and had me slide my arm up the wall in front of me and also to the side. This made a big difference for me. It felt like something in my sshoulder broke up and my range of motion was much greater. I did a lot of stretching exercises twice a day and that seeemed to help also. I am 51 years old.

Jun 10, 2009
4 Months after labral tear surgery
by: Gina

Debbie, What you are going thru is normal for that type of surgery. I had a full thickness labral tear (SLAP) plus a partial rotator cuff tear (supraspinatus tendon). I don't want to scare you, but it took about a year and half totally to have my full mobility back. I also had a problem with 7 areas of scar tissue that formed where the Dr. had to take me back into the O.R. and break the adhesions under anesthesia, then it took 3 more months of physical therapy before I was well. It is a long process, but you cannot give up. You just have to go on knowing that each day you are closer. Also, if you do not have them, get yourself some overhead shoulder pulleys at a surgical supply store and use them. Work up to 45 minutes per day twice a day. You just got to do that, that and laying down with a stick reaching it over your head, plus using the 1 1b. weights will help you. I just had another surgery on my left shoulder and am now rehabbing that, (biceps tenodesis, a bone spur shaved off, severe arthritis in the joint, scar tissue cut out) I am looking at 6 months of rehab, but after that I will have 2 good shoulders; I lived in constant pain for the last 4 years. I know about the lack of sleep. Try Benadryl at night plus a Vicodin every other day or 2-3 times a week for 6 good hours of sleep. Don't get discouraged, just keep going. You will get there. I did, so it is possible.

Jul 14, 2009
Bicep/labrum surgery, rehab time?
by: Anonymous

Cindy: Labral repair/bicep tendonesis 5/22/09
I had this surgery on the above date,rehab 3x weeek, in the 8th week ROM limite
with corisone injection on 7/9/09, this lasted
maybe four days. I'm now again having pain, esp.
muscle weakness on bicep area and shoulder. I'm
a nurse and would like to know how much rehab is
necessary and when I can return to work?

Sep 21, 2009
relieved
by: Anonymous

I had bicep tenodesis surgery first week of July and I am still pretty limited in my range of motion and strength. I was beginning to feel depressed due to the limitation of independence and feeling as if it was taking too long to recover; but I am thankful to read your comments and know that this is somewhat normal.

Thanks alot!

Mar 29, 2010
Pain after surgery
by: Bill

I had slap surgery on 11/13/09 and I am still having pain. I have been back in for an MRI with the dye and my doctor said everything he did was fine. He couldn't explain the pain, the popping out of place or the locking up. This all took place during PT so they understand I'm not joking around. The Dr. finally just said lets go back in and look, there may still be something floating around in there that can't be seen by the machines. I have since called another Dr. and will be going to see him this week I hope. Keep us up to date on what you find out and I will do the same. Good Luck to us both.

May 05, 2010
rotator cuff, bicep tenodesis, etc
by: kris

Hello to all. IN Oct I had corrective surgery for a 2cm(slightly over .75") hole in my left rotator cuff, the supraspinatus portion of the rotator cuff was also torn, the bicep tendon was torn and retracted out of it's groove,there was Labral tearing and fraying, and subscapularius fraying. I was in a sling 24/7 for 7 1/2 weeks. The worst part was my romboids atrophying. In rehab they cranked on me to get my range where it was supposed to be, as I was considered a little behind in my flexibility. I'm 53 now, and healed ahead of time, but it was the range and flexibility issue. I still have pain in the area of the bicep to the deltoids, which I think is due to the tenodesis. Strength is coming back, slowing. It's frustrating. I still have days that it aches in that area. Every morning I lie on the floor with 3 lb. weights and lift to move in a 180 degree rotation over my head with arms straight. Then I do this bent at the elbow which still hurts the first 8 to 10 reps, but it finally starts to stretch out. I'm on 2 folded towels to raise my back off of the floor to gain that extra stretching and range. It's discouraging at times, but I love life too much, and expect to compete in beach doubles vb again, hopefully this summer. Still hurts to just practice, but each time gets SLIGHTLY better. Don't give up!! Also, a good protein diet to aid in the healing. I am taking Endothil-CR which does seem to help, as it even helped before the surgery. I was told by others who've had similar surgery that the pain really doesn't go away for at least a year. I'm sure every one is different, but that seems to be a general guideline. Press on people. Live and love life.

Sep 23, 2010
4 months surgery
by: Matthew

I had labrum repair surgery on my left shoulder 4 months ago. I still have slight pain when i lean forward and let my arm go limp. It feels like it slips slightly out of place and i can feel something moving in there. It hurts a little but not too much. Should i be worried about this. Can someone let me no if this is normal I also had my right shoulder worked on. My labrum was torn in there too...im at one month post op on the right side. I am a D1 shot putter/discus thrower, im red shirting this year, im just wondering if im going to be able to come back 100%...i am top 50 in the nccaa currently and i want to move to top 10.

Sep 28, 2010
Shoulder
by: Bill

Ok it's been a few months since I wrote but this is what I have for you today. I have seen the other Dr. and he said by going back into surgery I would only be doing more harm. I have frozen shoulder. The first Dr. was so worried about re-tearing his repairs that he started my PT too late allowing my shoulder to freeze. Solution is more PT and a shot for the pain. I am feeling much better now than I did back then and the popping and clicking has now gone away. I am not perfect yet as I still have some dull pain but I feel alot better then I did. My thought is start PT as soon as you can. I am at 10 months right now and everyone keeps saying you won't be 100% until 1 year and at this point I believe thats right where I'll be. Good luck guys and keep up the PT it means the world.

Oct 25, 2010
Slap nightmare
by: Anonymous

I have lifted for 15years. While I was warming up on incline one night I felt a pinch in my should. Two weeks later it was still no better. So I made appt with Orthopod. and a week later had surgery under the impression that I would be fine. That was 2 years ago I havent lifted since nor can I. I am not in pai n but am void of the hobby i enjoyed most. No one ever tells you the down side of this surgery if you have this done if you get back 80% back consdier your self lucky. And by the way your sports career is over. The only thing i can do now is cardio without getting hurt Thanks Dr. Im glad i could help pay for your new BMW

Oct 25, 2010
Slap nightmare
by: Anonymous

I have lifted for 15years. While I was warming up on incline one night I felt a pinch in my should. Two weeks later it was still no better. So I made appt with Orthopod. and a week later had surgery under the impression that I would be fine. That was 2 years ago I havent lifted since nor can I. I am not in pai n but am void of the hobby i enjoyed most. No one ever tells you the down side of this surgery if you have this done if you get back 80% back consdier your self lucky. And by the way your sports career is over. The only thing i can do now is cardio without getting hurt Thanks Dr. Im glad i could help pay for your new BMW

Nov 17, 2010
Reoccuring Pain a year later?
by: Anonymous

Not sure if this site is still active. I am 11 months post op. I would say that most of the original pain went away within the first 6 months. Unfortunately, some of my original symptoms have re appeared. My pain primarity consisted of a sharp pain in the mid arm and then the upper shoulder on my RHS. I have started to develop the same sharp pain in the arm, no pain in the upper rear sholder.

Anyone have similar situations where some symptoms reoccured almost a year later?

Is it just an inflamation?

Let me know.

Nov 17, 2010
Reoccuring Pain a year later?
by: Anonymous

Not sure if this site is still active. I am 11 months post op. I would say that most of the original pain went away within the first 6 months. Unfortunately, some of my original symptoms have re appeared. My pain primarity consisted of a sharp pain in the mid arm and then the upper shoulder on my RHS. I have started to develop the same sharp pain in the arm, no pain in the upper rear sholder.

Anyone have similar situations where some symptoms reoccured almost a year later?

Is it just an inflamation?

Let me know.

Nov 22, 2010
Shoulder
by: Bill

I just hit the one year mark last week and though I am not 100% I don't seem to be having the original pains back. I have learned that before you go back to the Dr's try going through some PT at home like you did before and after the surgery. Scar tissue can be worse than before the surgery and PT excersises seem to help. Stretching also seems to help when the muscles start to tighten.

Dec 17, 2010
open or arthroscopic repair
by: Lori

I am booked for an open repair of my right shoulder ( labral tear) on Jan 7th 2011. I have heard the post op pain is severe. Can't seem to find a DR to do it arthroscopically. My pain started over 3 years ago. I just don't know if it's worth getting the surgery or just living with the pain I have now.

Dec 18, 2010
Labrum and Tenodesis
by: TKR

I had surgery the end of Oct. 2010 to repair tears to the labrum and bicep tenodesis. At seven weeks post-op, with the help of physical therapy 3 days a week and home exercises, my range of motion continues to improve. I still have pain but that too is getting better. The worst pain is at night so I continue to take pain meds before bedtime, which then helps me sleep. I am a swimmer and have been for over 30 years, I hope to get back in the pool sometime in late spring of 2011...this is my goal. This has been a very painfull process, especially the first 3 weeks after surgery, but the improvements I see daily give me the confidence that I will eventually be pain free and once again able to swim as much as I used to.

Dec 19, 2010
reply
by: Anonymous

Hi TKR...did you have an open rpeair or was it done srthroscopically? I have lived with mine for 3 years...maybe I should judt continue the way I am although I am afraid it may worsen one day. Hope you get swimming again soon!

Dec 21, 2010
shoulder pain
by: my shoulder hurts too

I had torn labrum, slap, and whatever else you could have repaired in there surgery on 19 August 2010 I still have pain, range is improving but several of the ranges are really limited, they just won't stretch out far and when the therapist does the stretching, it's very painful. Mine is a workman's comp case so the there are the occasional phone calls from the nurse case managers asking how much longer for rehab. My take on that is, as much as it takes until I'm pain free and as far stretched and motioned out as I can go, or until my doctor says "you're done"

Dec 29, 2010
Reply
by: TKR

Hi Anonymous, My surgery was arthroscopic. I too had pain with the bicep tendon for three years before I had the surgery. Before this year (Feb 2010) all I had to do was take a week off from swimming and I would be fine, however this year the pain didn't go away even after taking a month off. I went through physical therapy which made it worse, then xrays, then MRI, which finally led me to the surgery. It is too soon for me to be able to recommend the same surgery to anyone because I still have a lot of recovery in front of me. But for myself I have no regrets, I couldn't swim the way it was, and now at least I have a chance.

Jan 09, 2011
Labrum Surgery- 4 months post op and GRINDING!
by: Anonymous

I had surgery on my labrum about 4 months ago. The physical therapy sessions were extremely painful when they stretched me out. Now I'm experiencing A LOT of grinding in the joint during movements. If I'm laying in bed and move my shoulder, it grinds. It doesn't just pop, IT GRINDS THE WHOLE RANGE OF MOVEMENT! I'm very concerned because I don't know if this is normal. I've been going to PT on a very regular basis, and have been since the surgery. It's really discouraging because I didn't expect all this grinding. Does anyone else have these issues??

Jan 18, 2011
14yr old had shoulder surgery
by: Anonymous

i just had shoulder arthroscopy and labral tear repair surgery 3 weeks ago can i come back 100%i'm 14yrs old

Jan 18, 2011
14yr old had shoulder surgery
by: Anonymous

i just had shoulder arthroscopy and labral tear repair surgery 3 weeks ago can i come back 100%i'm 14yrs old

Jan 18, 2011
14yr old had shoulder surgery
by: Anonymous

i just had shoulder arthroscopy and labral tear repair surgery 3 weeks ago can i come back 100%i'm 14yrs old

Jan 18, 2011
14yr old had shoulder surgery
by: Anonymous

i just had shoulder arthroscopy and labral tear repair surgery 3 weeks ago can i come back 100%i'm 14yrs old

Jan 20, 2011
sept 2010
by: slap happy

Had slap repair and ac resection in September 2010. range of motion very good, even swam last night. aching pain at top of shoulder area and periodic general pain but lifting weights now and may swim 1x per week but nothing too strenuous. besides the aching pain, I think I'm progessing fine. Dr. thinks after March I should be good to do just about anything. Generally very happy with both parts of the surgery and the recovery. Guess I'll just have the pain for a bit longer.

Feb 03, 2011
Surgery on January 21st
by: Tracy

I recently had labrum surgery with bicep tendonesis and rotator cuff repair on Jan. 21st. I have had pain for a very long time and was becoming limited in daily activity, so i was very ready to have surgery. I am very glad I did, but I dont think I was quite prepared for the amount of pain and weekness I have experienced. I start physical therapy in two days and feel somewhat vulnerable to a re-injury at this point of healing. I hope to get back to complete health by six months.... Any good news out there on that?

Feb 03, 2011
Hi Tracey
by: Anonymous

I cancelled my first OR date because I heard about the degree od post-op pain that would be involved..often much worse than the original pain. Anyhow it scared me.Oh and the fact of a one year recovery didn't sit too well either. That was to have an open repair. Now I am waiting to see another surgeon who may be able to do the repair arthroscopically. I too have a spurapinatus tear as well as a labral tear. It has been over 3 years since it all started and I do not know how it happened. It affects me daily and intereferes with some of the activities I love most..so I too feel ready to "get it done". I wonder if they really prepare people for what the post op reality is going to be. I find it such a hard decision but realized that if I EVER want to get back to "normal" and be able to do the things I love, like golf, I guess there is only one answer. I have been going to physio...some days seems to helps, others not at all. By the way what method did your surgeon use? Open or arthroscpically? Hope things improve for you soon.

Feb 04, 2011
Muscle/inflammation pain in shoulder
by: 1WingedWoman

I had a labral tear in my left shoulder at the end of December 2010. I'm about 6 weeks post op. and have been healing week tp week except for two days ago. The PT had me start lifting my arm without assistance and now I feel pain all over my shoulder. The pain never stays in one location. It moves from my shoulder blades and all around the top of my arm. I also feel arthritic pain as well as elbow pain.! Does anyone have these symptoms and are they normal? I'm afraid I stretched too much and tore something in my arm. This is the most pain I've felt since the operation.

Feb 06, 2011
Hello Anonymous
by: Anonymous

This is Tracy...Yes I definitely had my surgery arthroscopic....that is the way to go. I live in Nashville, and feel extremely confident in my surgeon because he works with alot of athletes and does the surgery quite often.

MY first pt appointment went well, but I always fear another tear.. I walk around scared I am going to jeopardize the surgery I had.
My doc said do not let therapists to take hand behind back to anyone out there that may be concerned

Feb 09, 2011
post superior labral tear
by: Anonymous

Just got approved by workers comp to get surgery done on my left shoulder. Can anyone tell me how long you have to wait in general to get this surgery scheduled and my supervisor wants to know when I might be back to work after I get surgery done.

I have read it can take 3 months, up to a year to recover 100%, Is there a chance I could be back to work within 3 months or is that a bit pre-mature? I am a custodian at a university and do a lot of mopping, sweeping, stripping and scrubbing floors plus a lot of overhead activity. Any comments would be appreciated.

Feb 15, 2011
Son's Bicep not regaining Strength
by: Tess

Our son had shoulder surgery on 1/7/11. His bicep muscle is not regaining it's strength? He had dislocated his shoulder three times over the past three years and had sustained injury to labrum, the head of the humerous bone, tendons stretched or torn that needed to be anchored.
I was wondering if anyone else has had this problem and will it eventually begin to regain strength?

Feb 16, 2011
living along with post op
by: Anonymous

Is there anyone out there that can comment on post-op (slap; labrum shoulder tear) when you live alone? I have a little dog, and have to feed and maintain myself? I would like to find a post-op facility for at least a few days. Any suggestions?

Feb 17, 2011
Labral surgery
by: Anonymous

I had surgery on January 3rd. I dislocated my shoulder 7 times this last football season div. 1. I had 3 labrum tears and a partial tear at the top of my bicep. Im currently healing well but can relate to the frustration and pain. most my pain has subsided but the arthritic/dull achy pain lingers pretty constantly. im hopefull with stretching and patience Ill get back 100%. positive thoughts.

Feb 19, 2011
No easy fix
by: unsat slap

I had my surgery March 31,2010. It took 9 months to get the surgery approved through Workers Comp. After surgery my shoulder was in the worst pain I have ever experienced. It took about four months for the pain to subside to a constant dull ache that it remains in today. I have been unable to regain substancial strength in my bicep or shoulder. As an avid swimmer and weight lifter this has changed my lifestyle significantly. As a peace officer it may have ended my career. I continue to try to stretch and rehabilitate which typically results in increased inflammation and grinding and a few days rest is necessary between sessions. I don't care for taking pills but some days for any quality of life pain meds are a must. I was disillusioned into thinking I would be much better off. So potential recipiants of this surgery beware. It is a long road to recovery. I am 32 yrs. old a former marine and a cop for over 10 years. Thanks, I hope my experience helps someone make an educated decision even if my results aren't typical.

Feb 20, 2011
Some info i have learned
by: Anonymous

Was lifting weights and felt a strain in my neck, upper right shoulder...i even worked out the next two days thinking it was just a neck strain that would go away. Super bowl sunday i felt a pain in my shoulder and upper arm when i went to put a shirt on.

I went to chiropractor and she did x rays and said most of my c muscles are turned. She worked on me for a couple days but the pain got worse in the shoulder, better in the neck.

I can tell something is not right in shoulder so went to see specialist this past week. I am going for mri this week on the slap. He did testing and said he didnt think its a pinched nerve, it might be a labrum problem.

To some of you, from what i have learned so far is
1. have a shoulder specialist look at your injury, your fam doctor/chiro just doesnt know shoulders like these specialists
2. you should not have phys therapy done until a problem is discovered through x rays (which wont show a slap tear anyway or mri)
3. even a standard mri will not show whats wrong with a slap tear, you must get an arhtro mri which they shoot dye into your shoulder so they can see the slap tendons more clearly.

everyones shoulder is different depending on the grade of tear and what else is torn, but i havent been able to lift in over two weeks. its not that the pain is so bad where i cant, i am just scared straight to even try and feel something worse or make it worse. doc told me to hold off on working out period until we get mri results. which of course will take a week to get in for it and another week to get back to his office. stupid!! so i am left to prayer for two weeks of what i possibly have, but so far its a mix of good and bad days.

i honestly felt better before he ran the physical tests on me to see what the problem is. today is the best day of 3 i have had since the appt.

if it shows a tear i have heard phys therapy should be tried first but i dont know how good that success rate is. if i need surgery, i will seek a 2nd opinion although the answer will probably be inevitable.

its not a big deal other than my physique is going to be ruined after working so hard at it for 5 years and the inconvenience and pain post op with therapy.

i will update my status and my knowledge once i learn more. i know what many have already gone through and would like to share my experiences with those because i know how scary this can be.

pray for me!!

Feb 20, 2011
Some info i have learned
by: Anonymous

Was lifting weights and felt a strain in my neck, upper right shoulder...i even worked out the next two days thinking it was just a neck strain that would go away. Super bowl sunday i felt a pain in my shoulder and upper arm when i went to put a shirt on.

I went to chiropractor and she did x rays and said most of my c muscles are turned. She worked on me for a couple days but the pain got worse in the shoulder, better in the neck.

I can tell something is not right in shoulder so went to see specialist this past week. I am going for mri this week on the slap. He did testing and said he didnt think its a pinched nerve, it might be a labrum problem.

To some of you, from what i have learned so far is
1. have a shoulder specialist look at your injury, your fam doctor/chiro just doesnt know shoulders like these specialists
2. you should not have phys therapy done until a problem is discovered through x rays (which wont show a slap tear anyway or mri)
3. even a standard mri will not show whats wrong with a slap tear, you must get an arhtro mri which they shoot dye into your shoulder so they can see the slap tendons more clearly.

everyones shoulder is different depending on the grade of tear and what else is torn, but i havent been able to lift in over two weeks. its not that the pain is so bad where i cant, i am just scared straight to even try and feel something worse or make it worse. doc told me to hold off on working out period until we get mri results. which of course will take a week to get in for it and another week to get back to his office. stupid!! so i am left to prayer for two weeks of what i possibly have, but so far its a mix of good and bad days.

i honestly felt better before he ran the physical tests on me to see what the problem is. today is the best day of 3 i have had since the appt.

if it shows a tear i have heard phys therapy should be tried first but i dont know how good that success rate is. if i need surgery, i will seek a 2nd opinion although the answer will probably be inevitable.

its not a big deal other than my physique is going to be ruined after working so hard at it for 5 years and the inconvenience and pain post op with therapy.

i will update my status and my knowledge once i learn more. i know what many have already gone through and would like to share my experiences with those because i know how scary this can be.

pray for me!!

Feb 27, 2011
Slap tear and shoulder stabilization
by: Anonymous

I had surgery November 11, 2010. I have had over 10 major surgeries, an this by far was the most painful post-op. Ive never needed pain meds before this surgery. I had a SLAP tear of the labrum and stabilization to the shoulder arthroscopic. I am in PT now and have lost all the feeling to the deltoid area of my arm, can barely lift my own arm, have limited ROM, and cant hold anything over 10 pds, and am in constant pain. The dr and PT believe permanent nerve damage was done so this could be life altering. Before i had this surgery i was told the risk were extremely low and I should be back to normal at about 6 months, and now im looking at a life altering disability. Im a nurse, and if this does become permanent as they are predicting i have just lost my career, and because of the limited use will have to go on disability at the age of 32. Im writing this to tell anyone considering shoulder surgery, that even though the odds are against permenent damage, its still there. If i could go back i would learn to live with the pain and dislocating, because i would still have use of my arm. Now im pushing myself and working as hard as i can and praying 24/7 for the use of my arm will return and their wrong. If someone had told me then that this had happened to them, i would have taken more time to cosider the possible consequences. Make sure before having this done that if it does go bad, that its worth it. For me it wasnt and now my family and I will have to pay for what was supposed to be a "simple" day surgery.

Mar 19, 2011
Slap surgey with frozen shoulder surgery 5 weeks later
by: Anonymous

I am 39 years old female. I had both R & L rotator cuff repairs 13 and 14 years ago . I just recently 5 weeks ago had Slap Type 2 repair with decompression . I stopped progressing aprox two weeks into rehab. I then was told to wait and see when I was struggling with ROM and pain . It was dtermined at 5 weeks that I need arthoscopy again to determine what is going on . It was determined that I had acute capsulities ( frozen shoulder) . Is there any one out there that has gone through this and achieved "full " recovery ? I appreciate you comments / replies.

Mar 29, 2011
Slap Repair labrem
by: Rodney

I had surgery on Feb 8, 2011 to repair my labrem. I'm at seven weeks post op and have a lot of pain in my bicep. ROM is getting better daily but my bicep muscle has a large lump around it that hurts like hell. At forty one years old I could not see myself broken for the rest of my life, so I decided to have the surgery. It's a very slow recovery, which is driving me crazy but I have very little choice in the matter. I will say the constant pain ismaking me grouchy just ask my wife! :)

Apr 26, 2011
Labral Repair
by: Rich

I had labral repair in August of 2010 and my shoulder is still really tight and I can still feel it pulling when I do certain stretches. Also I have been starting to throw a lot more often now and I have been experiencing a lot of pain again in the same shoulder. It feels like it is slipping out of the socket when I throw. Any ideas or suggestions I could use?

Jul 05, 2011
Wrong Dr?
by: Jeff Chandler

I can't figure what you all are whining about. I had surgery last Thursday. Today, Tuesday, I am off the pain pills. I went to therapy the day after surgery and had 85% range of motion, and today about 95%.

I went to the Steadman Clinic in Vail. They cut An repaired the bicep and removed some bone spurs. I think this surgery is completely dependent on the choice of doctors. I know this because I had similar good results from knee surgery 3 years ago.

Oct 04, 2011
re jeff chandler
by: sebastian

jeff chandler i don't know what kind of surgery you had but it seems you don't know what the hell your talking about and i wish i could slap you with my good arm right about now. i had a labral tear repair sept 22,2011 and i was on percocet for the first 3 days. i consumed 20 pills in 72 hours. im still in a lot of pain and wearing a sling.

Oct 11, 2011
Reply to Jeff
by: Leslie

Sounds like Jeff's surgery wasnt nearly as serious as our SLAP repairs, guys... i had surgery 3 wks ago- we thought we were going in for the same thing as Jeff had-- to correct a bone spur and fix my shredded bicept tendon- my surgeon said it was a relatively minor repair and i could go back to playing tennis 3 months post op-
Well, he got in there and found a major labrum tear and rotator cuff tear--far, far more serious than what we thought, and far more serious than what Jeff had done- Jeff, your surgery, if that was all they fixed, is minor-- SLAP repairs are considered MAJOR surgery--- I have 5 titanium anchors holding my shoulder together--- please make sure you know what you are talking about before being so judgemental--- im only 3 weeks in, and im already frustrated as i cannot move my arm more than 1 inch from my body---and still am in significant pain--i cant imagine the frustration of you guys who are months or even years out--- good luck to all of us!!

Oct 14, 2011
Labrum / SLAP
by: 2nd Guessing

I just found out I have a tear in my labrum (SLAP) and my MD suggested having it repaired although, I'm 38 and he said anyone 40 or older they'll recommend not getting surgery. I was going to do it but after reading all your stories I'm now considering getting a second opinion before deciding to go through with it. Seems to be a lot of regrets.

Oct 14, 2011
in response
by: leslie

hey-

it is a personal decision--- i am 43 and had it done (along w a rotator cuff repair and tratment for a bone spur and torn bicept tendon--) I am a competitive tennis player and want to get on the court again, so for me it wasnt really an option.
i guess it depends on how bad your pain is now and what you can/cant do and what you want to get back to afterwards and if the surgery will make a difference--- good luck!
on another note, i had my 2nd session of PT today and actually cried from the pain during the appt--- now im in so much pain that ive ha to double up on my pain meds just so i can try to sleep so i dont feel the pain--- iy was terrible. is this normal???

Oct 14, 2011
in response
by: leslie

hey-

it is a personal decision--- i am 43 and had it done (along w a rotator cuff repair and tratment for a bone spur and torn bicept tendon--) I am a competitive tennis player and want to get on the court again, so for me it wasnt really an option.
i guess it depends on how bad your pain is now and what you can/cant do and what you want to get back to afterwards and if the surgery will make a difference--- good luck!
on another note, i had my 2nd session of PT today and actually cried from the pain during the appt--- now im in so much pain that ive ha to double up on my pain meds just so i can try to sleep so i dont feel the pain--- iy was terrible. is this normal???

Feb 05, 2012
Pain, Fluid Build Up & Can't Sleep NEW
by: Slap Tear & My Surgeon is a Joke

I had Slap Tear Surgery on 10/17/11 and was in a sling for 5 weeks. I have been going to PT three times a week and the pain is getting worse. I am on Pain Pills, Valium and Sleeping Pills (on my third pill). I sleep about 3-4 hrs a night. I had a second MRI and the the Dr said the I have fluid build up and severe inflammatory on the shoulder & bicep and left the room and told the nurse the examine was over. I sleep in a chair because I can't put any weight on that side. Is anyone having the same problems?

Apr 05, 2012
Labrum Repair, Bicep Reattachment w/ frozen shoulder NEW
by: Anonymous

I'm a 49 yr old woman who had my arth. surgery yesterday. Definitely get the nerve block in the neck pre-op folks. 18-24 hrs of post op. near pain free. I slept better last night (in my electric Lazyboy, than I have in months) I had PT today, to hopefully prevent frozen shoulder again. 10 days of PT in a row(off the weekend)Yes, I am afraid of redamaging the tears but a frozen shoulder hurts like heck too.

I'm hurting now and even though I hate needles, I wish I could get another block in my neck! I'll stay in touch because maybe what I'm doing will help someone else.

Apr 10, 2012
Plain!!!!!! NEW
by: Anonymous

I had a acronium decompression and labral fraying repair on jan. 31 st 2012. I'm still in lots of pain. Doing pt on a regular basis . Has anyone out there struggled with neck and upper back pain while recovering after this procedure. IT'S SO UNCOMFORTABLE. I am feeling very discouraged . Any advice. I hate taking pills so the pain is a bit difficult.

Regie

Apr 12, 2012
labrum tear -- now bicep tendoesis NEW
by: Jackie

I had surgery Dec 14, 2011. Started PT mid January, have moderate range of motion but still have consistant dull pain and stopped progressing in PT about a month ago. I have limited over head strength and mobility. My doc says I should have a bicep tendoesis, he feels the slap repair failed. From what I read the tendoesis has better results but I don't know if my sholder will ever function well again. Will I ever be able to swim?

Anyone go back in for a tendoesis?

I had upper back pain when I started therapy - it went away after a few weeks. Seemed to be caused by being in the sling for so long...

May 10, 2012
SLAP repari, 5 months, still in pain, but hopefull NEW
by: Scott

Similar to many others here, I had a SLAP repair (2 anchors) along with some bicep and RC cleanup and decompression. Didn't sleep for 2 months post op. I am about 4.5 months post surgery now and still have limited range and lots of pain. The good news is that I am experience small improvement from week to week. It is just VERY slow. You HAVE to be very patient with this op. Although my injury (and pain) is in the shoulder, the pain (and weakness) is significant in the bicep, which also travels down into my elbow and forearm. I was told I'd be recovered in about 4 months, but have learned that it could be a year or longer. There is also a chance that my bicep inflammation (pain) could be permanent and require additional surgery. I am a swimmer and started swimming (slowly) at exactly 30 days post op. At about 4.5 months I am swimming over 10k yards weekly, but I am in pain at all times and pretty weak in that arm. Lifting weights, pull ups, throwing a ball, etc. are completely out of the question at this stage. My advice for anyone considering SLAP repair is to think long and hard about how bad it is before surgery. Have you tried PT and if so how long? How much does it limit you today? If you get this surgery do not expect a quick fix no matter what the doc tells you. Everyone is different and I've heard some really good stories too (fully recovered in 2 months), but it could also be a long and painful road back. Good luck!!

May 14, 2012
Labrum surgery NEW
by: Anonymous

16 year old baseball catcher had a SLAP tear and Bankart repair done arthroscopy by Dr Andrews in Gulf Breeze, FL in mid February 2012. The injury was a result of shoulder dislocation sliding into a base. It's been the worse pain ever. Didn't sleep for first six weeks. Sharp, constant pain for six weeks. PT is going well. Range of motion is on target. Now at 12 weeks post surgery, only sore pain after PT three times a week. Sleeping through the night finally. Hopeful that at six months around mid August I'll be back to full workouts and lifting. Was told that it takes one year for full recovery with an 80% chance. Not sure I'd be willing to ever go through this again for the love of baseball.

May 14, 2012
Labrum surgery NEW
by: Anonymous

16 year old baseball catcher had a SLAP tear and Bankart repair done arthroscopy by Dr Andrews in Gulf Breeze, FL in mid February 2012. The injury was a result of shoulder dislocation sliding into a base. It's been the worse pain ever. Didn't sleep for first six weeks. Sharp, constant pain for six weeks. PT is going well. Range of motion is on target. Now at 12 weeks post surgery, only sore pain after PT three times a week. Sleeping through the night finally. Hopeful that at six months around mid August I'll be back to full workouts and lifting. Was told that it takes one year for full recovery with an 80% chance. Not sure I'd be willing to ever go through this again for the love of baseball.

May 14, 2012
Labrum surgery NEW
by: Anonymous

16 year old baseball catcher had a SLAP tear and Bankart repair done arthroscopy by Dr Andrews in Gulf Breeze, FL in mid February 2012. The injury was a result of shoulder dislocation sliding into a base. It's been the worse pain ever. Didn't sleep for first six weeks. Sharp, constant pain for six weeks. PT is going well. Range of motion is on target. Now at 12 weeks post surgery, only sore pain after PT three times a week. Sleeping through the night finally. Hopeful that at six months around mid August I'll be back to full workouts and lifting. Was told that it takes one year for full recovery with an 80% chance. Not sure I'd be willing to ever go through this again for the love of baseball.

May 20, 2012
Advice NEW
by: Anonymous

I am 5 weeks out of surgery for a torn labrum and torn bicep tendon. I was in severe pain 5 months prior to surgery only getting a few hours asleep a night. I was cut under my armpit to repair the bicep tendon and the labrum was repaired orthoscopticlly. When I was under they also did manipulation in order to prevent frozen shoulder. I was in a sling for 4 weeks unable to move my shoulder/arm at all. I didn't start therapy until 3 weeks after surgery. Needles to say I have frozen shoulder and I am in pain all day long still only getting a few hours of sleep. Will therapy correct the frozen shoulder or will I need to go back under and have surgery or manipulation again?

May 20, 2012
Reply to Re-Manipulation NEW
by: Anonymous

4/3/12 I had labrum repair surgery and manipulation under anesthesia for frozen shoulder and also some clean up. I also have a torn bicep but my surgeon opted to leave the bicep as it was and focus on the other 2 issues. My doctor said that if he repaired the bicep, that I'd be immobilized, like you, for several weeks...which would result in my shoulder freezing again. So I began physical therapy the day after surgery...everyday for 2 weeks and twice a week there after.
I am 7 weeks post op and still take hydrocodone Norco 10-325 mg daily for pain and to sleep (though I am gradually decreasing the amount). Atleast I am now able to function, to work, and to take care of my mother who has cancer.
In my opinion, I think you will have to have your shoulder manipulated again under anesthesia, once your doctor feels your repair work can handle it. Make sure you are in rehab the very next day. Once your shoulder is frozen, those muscle atrophy and they tend to refreeze very quickly if not manipulated.
Blessings to You,
Jana

Aug 19, 2012
4.5 weeks post slap surgery NEW
by: Sara

Very interesting comments and I feel somewhat better reading that you are in the same boat. I have 3 anchors in and started PT at 2 weeks out. ROM was 2 weeks ahead and then I went on vacation and didn't have anyone yanking on my arm so it was much tighter week 4 but after 3 PT sessions I am on par and do the stretches as often as possible. The pain is intense at night and I don't understand why. It would be nice not to have the throbbing on top of the shoulder and just below in the back. The pain pills don't do too much. PT is painful to the point of tears. But so far so good. The doctors do say 4 months recovery but that is not very accurate. 4 months for full ROM maybe but not back to normal with weights and core strength classes with light weights reaching overhead. At least not for us non-professional athletes! Most of what I read is almost a full year recovery. I think I will be calling for a pain killer refill soon. I find a muscle relaxer helps a little.

Aug 19, 2012
4.5 weeks post slap surgery NEW
by: Sara

Very interesting comments and I feel somewhat better reading that you are in the same boat. I have 3 anchors in and started PT at 2 weeks out. ROM was 2 weeks ahead and then I went on vacation and didn't have anyone yanking on my arm so it was much tighter week 4 but after 3 PT sessions I am on par and do the stretches as often as possible. The pain is intense at night and I don't understand why. It would be nice not to have the throbbing on top of the shoulder and just below in the back. The pain pills don't do too much. PT is painful to the point of tears. But so far so good. The doctors do say 4 months recovery but that is not very accurate. 4 months for full ROM maybe but not back to normal with weights and core strength classes with light weights reaching overhead. At least not for us non-professional athletes! Most of what I read is almost a full year recovery. I think I will be calling for a pain killer refill soon. I find a muscle relaxer helps a little.

Aug 19, 2012
4.5 weeks post slap surgery NEW
by: Sara

Very interesting comments and I feel somewhat better reading that you are in the same boat. I have 3 anchors in and started PT at 2 weeks out. ROM was 2 weeks ahead and then I went on vacation and didn't have anyone yanking on my arm so it was much tighter week 4 but after 3 PT sessions I am on par and do the stretches as often as possible. The pain is intense at night and I don't understand why. It would be nice not to have the throbbing on top of the shoulder and just below in the back. The pain pills don't do too much. PT is painful to the point of tears. But so far so good. The doctors do say 4 months recovery but that is not very accurate. 4 months for full ROM maybe but not back to normal with weights and core strength classes with light weights reaching overhead. At least not for us non-professional athletes! Most of what I read is almost a full year recovery. I think I will be calling for a pain killer refill soon. I find a muscle relaxer helps a little.

Aug 20, 2012
Hi Sara NEW
by: Leslie

Hi Sara

I totally understand where you are coming from. I had a SLAP repair, bicept tendon repair and Rotator Cuff repair 11 months ago. I want to tell you that, as far as my experience went, the 4 month recovery rule was a total joke. I hate that they tell people that, because all it did for me was to make me more frustrated and depressed when, at 4 months out, I was still pretty miserable and FAR from back to normal! Much pain, ROM was not great, etc. I play competitive tennis, too, so it was really depressing to me that I couldnt play-- I wasnt sure if I was EVER going to be able to get back.
Anyway, It took me a full 9 months to get back to normal, and I JUST got back on the tennis court again. There are some days when I STILL feel pain, but it is totally manageable and goes away the more I move my arm. The pain is usually at its worst in the morning after being still all night. It always gets better after movement--about 20 minutes or so in the morning.
I used to hate when people told me this... but you have to be patient, and I know that is a hard thing right now. To get your life totally back to normal, you need to give it close to a year. So many things went through my mind at 4,5 6, 7 and 8 months.... like, "I think my surgery failed or I reinjured myself somehow"--thank goodness that was not the case.
Take care of yourself, keep doing your PT, and try to be as patient as possible. That 4 month thing is a joke! Best wishes for your recovery-
Leslie

Sep 04, 2012
Labrum tear NEW
by: Me

I had an arthogram MRI where 20cc's of dye is injected into my shoulder then I was told by my ortho that i have a torn labrum, seperated ac joint, possibly a torn rotator cuff from bone spurs and i need surgery... the doc will see whats going on once he puts the camera in. so i plan on having surgery very shortly to repair this crap. I am reading horror stories about the recovery makes me say should I really get this done
I had patella tendon knee surgery done and that was the worse pain ever full leg cast for 6 weeks then therapy for 6 months. I heard shoulder surgery is more pain full. urggg

Sep 04, 2012
Shoulder NEW
by: Anonymous

I had a labral repair and a decompression jan 31st 2012.
I am now 7 months into my recovery and I thought the misery would never end. It's not over yet but I am making improvements. I am sleeping better and my me neck does not hurt as much. Don't let anyone tell you that this recovery is quick.
IT IS NOT! I was quite sure that I must have reinsured myself
because the recovery was so long and drawn out to say nothing of the pain I dealt with. No matter how you spin it shoulder surgery is VERY DIFFICULT!!!! I had a rotator cuff repair 2 years ago and it was far easier then this last surgery.( different shoulder) hope this helps.
Good luck

Reg

Sep 04, 2012
Shoulder NEW
by: Anonymous

I had a labral repair and a decompression jan 31st 2012.
I am now 7 months into my recovery and I thought the misery would never end. It's not over yet but I am making improvements. I am sleeping better and my me neck does not hurt as much. Don't let anyone tell you that this recovery is quick.
IT IS NOT! I was quite sure that I must have reinsured myself
because the recovery was so long and drawn out to say nothing of the pain I dealt with. No matter how you spin it shoulder surgery is VERY DIFFICULT!!!! I had a rotator cuff repair 2 years ago and it was far easier then this last surgery.( different shoulder) hope this helps.
Good luck

Reg

Sep 17, 2012
2 month post Slap Tear Repair Surgery NEW
by: Jayron

Hello Everyone,

I too am struggling to come to grips that recovery takes a lot longer than expected. I am a little over 2 months post slap tear surgery, and I find myself worrying that something is not going/feeling right. I am only 23 and my doctor made it seem like I would be back to playing sports 4-6 months post surgery. However, I feel like I am miles away from being normal again. I often feel a very minor numbing feeling throughout my arm. Is this a normal side effect? I'm worried I have a pinched nerve. I get this numbing tingling feeling in the morning the most. My PT assured me my shoulder feels sound, but I am still concerned since the achy numbing feeling has not gone away.
I have a buford complex in my repaired shoulder and also a torn labrum in my other shoulder. I believe the Buford complex puts me at a disposition to shoulder issues. I'm concerned that having a buford complex makes recovery more difficult as well. Appreciate anyone's thoughts here.

Sep 19, 2012
5 Month Update NEW
by: Anonymous

I wanted to give anyone out there an update so that it might help you in gaging your own recovery.
My labrum repair surgery and frozen shoulder manipulation under anesthesia was 4/3. The Doctor referred to it as a SLAP Type of repair except he left the bicep detached so that physical therapy could start the day after surgery to prevent the refreezing of the shoulder.
5 months into recovery, I am finally feeling a reduction in the pain. 100%??...unfortunately NO...but atleast the pain is significantly less than it was before the surgery. The range of motion and strength are gradually improving also. So now, I feel it was worth having the surgery.
I still take heavy duty pain meds daily,(which I detest) because I've now injured my other shoulder and the pain is always present and intense with it. I think that my surgery shoulder would be even better if it wasn't for this.
So Hang In There Everybody.

Sep 19, 2012
oh boy NEW
by: me

I am less than 2 weeks away for my surgery labral tear. Put some bone spurs and some other stuff going on in there. Sounds like this is worse than having patella tendon knee surgeryon and that was the worst pain ever went through full leg cast ruptured the entire patella tendon. Well at least I found these forms and I am prepared I go in for pre op next week. I hear that the pain is excruciating the second day. I am a personal trainer and I do have a landscaping. So I guess I will be out of work for quite some time

Sep 19, 2012
oh boy NEW
by: me

I am less than 2 weeks away for my surgery labral tear. Put some bone spurs and some other stuff going on in there. Sounds like this is worse than having patella tendon knee surgeryon and that was the worst pain ever went through full leg cast ruptured the entire patella tendon. Well at least I found these forms and I am prepared I go in for pre op next week. I hear that the pain is excruciating the second day. I am a personal trainer and I do have a landscaping. So I guess I will be out of work for quite some time

Sep 19, 2012
oh boy NEW
by: me

I am less than 2 weeks away for my surgery labral tear. Put some bone spurs and some other stuff going on in there. Sounds like this is worse than having patella tendon knee surgeryon and that was the worst pain ever went through full leg cast ruptured the entire patella tendon. Well at least I found these forms and I am prepared I go in for pre op next week. I hear that the pain is excruciating the second day. I am a personal trainer and I do have a landscaping. So I guess I will be out of work for quite some time

Sep 20, 2012
Oh Boy NEW NEW
by: Anonymous

Please do yourself a favor and get an electric reliner. You will atleast be able to get some sleep with one.
I also recommend getting the nerve block in the neck just before surgery. I was pain free for a couple of days, but everyone responds differently.
I suggest mentally preparing for the worst....lots of pain for 6 months. On a scale of 1-10, I'd definitely say a 10. A cortizone shot in the joint last month gave me about 2-3 wks of relief so keep that in mind for later in the process.
Hang In There and Keep Me Informed. It helps to know somebody understands...everybody in my family thinks I should be back to normal. NOT gonna happen anytime soon.
Blessings,
Jana

Sep 20, 2012
9 weeks post op now NEW
by: Sara

I am now 9 weeks post op and still have a lot of pain. Some nights I barely sleep due to throbbing. Last night being one of them. So pain meds are needed. I will not go to PT without taking a Norco. It does help a bit. Not that PT is easy, it is very painful even with that. They managed to get me to full ROM today but not without me squirming in pain. I still have a very stiff shoulder even though I do the stretches every day. As my doc said, I am 43, not 18! So it may take me a bit longer. I am told I cannot use my arm until full range is achieved passively or 12 weeks. Someone mentioned their arm being numb or tingly. I have that as well and do think it is from my neck since those muscles are all out of whack and I still can't do any of my neck or upper back exercises like I used to. Overall, this is a really tough surgery. My mantra is "short term pain so I don't have long term pain."

Sep 21, 2012
oh brother NEW
by: jack

Oh for god sake i need something to calm my nerves 12 days till D day

Sep 21, 2012
Jack NEW
by: Anonymous

Don't worry Jack, you will do fine and when they knock you out...it will be the best sleep you've had in a long time. And probably for some time to come, especially if you don't have an electric recliner.
Seriously, my mother bought me an electric Lazyboy 2 weeks before my surgery in April.(She died of cancer in June)I still sleep in it at night because I can't sleep on either shoulder because of pain. Needless to say, I thank her in my prayers every night for her last great unselfish act. If you get an electric, you will never have to strain your shoulder getting in and out and you can tweak it to get just the right position.

Good Luck and Prayers to You,
Jana

Sep 21, 2012
Jana NEW
by: Jack

Dana,

Sorry about your mom :(
I tore my labum, rotator cuff, bones spurs and seperated ac joint and after reading all of these comments about shoulder surgery from all of you guys I followed most of your instuctions and I decided to be prepared for the worse so I went out and rented a brand new black leather recliner with cup holders and its really comfy, I also bought a back sratcher, 2 gel ice packs, foam wedge, a huge pillow made for sitting up in bed, i have 3 shirts that have velcro on shouders so you can step into it made for shoulder surgery,sweat pants with elastic waistband, crocs that just slip on feet, vitamins, new shower head, hand soap foam pump bottles,baby powder,floss picks, DVD's, Tums for stomach, figs to help with bathroom issues,a book, Valium lol and a few other items... so this forum and youtube has help tremdously because im pretty much ready for this annoying surgery. I am a part time personal trainer so I take care of myself in the gym 5 days a week working out since 2003 so I am fit and have strong muscle and will aid in a speedy recovery. I have the sick time at my full time job so I am not worried about getting paid, I am mainly worried about not being able to go about my regular schedule I will defenitly become extremely figity and will miss the gym BADLY. My surgery is october 2nd so I figure mid November I will start PT by mid December 2012 I will be doing light cardio on tred mill and Bike then April of 2013 I will be back in the gym strength training and building muscle and by June I will have gained my muscle back to the way it is now. I dont want to push it and re-injure myself but I will do PT and home excersizes and wont miss a session becuase I have the dedication and mind to beat this. I will also be back and post after my surgery or if anyone wants me to give them updates to their personal email address I will be glad to do that reply and just post your email letting me know you want to here my progress and i will get in contact with you right away.

Jack

Sep 21, 2012
Surgery NEW
by: Anonymous

Good luck Jack stay in touch.
Reggie

Sep 21, 2012
To Jack NEW
by: Leslie

Hi Jack-

I had the same surgery you are about to have... and am a competitive tennis player, so I totally understand the feeling of getting figity at home waiting to be released to get back to exercising.

All I can say is be patient. You should be able to get back to light workout before I was able to get back to tennis (couldn't swing a racket at all-) and the working out will aid in getting your muscle tone back great- My muscle had totally atrophied due to lack of use, and now it is 100% back and Im back hitting the ball harder than ever.

If your PT is like mine, once you get into the second stage of PT, when you have your passive range of motion back, they will start you on exercises with little one pound weights-- just start small and gradually build your way back up. Just be mindful not to bite off more than you can chew...I tried to be so aggressive with my PT when I could, thinking it would get me back on the court and back to my life sooner-- when all it really did was set me farther back-- I was so aggessive that while I never re-injured myself, I hurt so much from doing too much that I actually regressed in my PT.
Please keep us posted as to how you are doing-- take care!
leslie -

Sep 22, 2012
On A Positive Note NEW
by: Anonymous

Jack~
It sounds like you are ready man!! I love the cup holder on the chair. I often wish I had atleast one for the drink and the remote!
My husband had this surgery with anchors and the whole nine yards about 3 years ago. He is a football coach and is extremely driven. He is one of the success stories that the doctors like to refer too with the shorter recovery time. I don't remember him going through near the pain I'm going through. He slept in bed and never missed a night of sleep. I mean he could take a perscription Naproxen and it would really help...they do absolutely nothing for me. The main thing I remember is that he iced his shoulder constantly. He now has full range of motion, no pain and never missed a season throwing footballs. I'm thrilled for him but unfortunately he doesn't really understand why I'm not doing as well.
Hopefully, you will be in this category of recovery!
Here's some info and advice on pain medication.
The pain meds that I'm on are Norco/ Generic for Hydroco APAP 10-325MG. The 10 is MG of Codeine, the 325 is MG of Acetaminophen. IF your doctor perscribes a combination where the first number is lower and the second number is higher, ask him if you can have this one instead. With this combination, the Codeine/10Mg is higher and delivers more pain relief, the Acetaminophen/325 MG is lower so the medication can be taken twice as often as some of the other combinations. My doctors instructions are 1 to 2 tablets every 4-6 hours as needed pain. The acetaminophen is added to primarily keep people from taking too much Hydrocodone and getting addicted. Unfortunately, Acetaminophen is hard on the liver and can be very damaging to the liver if taken in quantities over the recommended daily limits. So the less amount of the APAP/Acetaminophen in the formulation the better.
I'm very sad that I'm in my 5th month of recovery and still require 2 pills every 6 hours to function. But my pain issue is more in my other unrepaired shoulder, not in my shoulder that has been repaired. I've got another shoulder surgery to look forward the first of next year. I will be SO GLAD to be off of pain meds one of these days.
So keep in touch eveyone, I'm very interested how you all are doing.

Blessings,
Jana

Sep 25, 2012
labrum tear surgery NEW
by: neil harris

had surgery on september 12th and after reading all these comments im really not optimistic never seen an op have so many failed procedures apart from tennis player -im in agony thought it would have started to settle down by now -cant sleep at all -i start my physio tomorrow -my rear shoulder feels like i been shot constantly aching

Sep 25, 2012
geeeesh NEW
by: Anonymous

Oh for god sake neil im next...... urgggg

Sep 25, 2012
to Neil NEW
by: Leslie

Hey Neil-

Try not to be discouraged. No, my procedure didn't fail, and it seems to me that most of the people who have posted are still too early in their recovery to know if their's failed either.

I cannot even begin to tell you how many times throughout my recovery I was absolutely convinced that my procedure had failed-because I was told that I would be feeling better 4 months out, and it took close to a year before I had a full recovery. It was actually more like 6 months before I started feeling like I didn't want to kill my surgeon!! :)

Anyway, try not to be discouraged, and try to be patient and accept that this surgery actually does NOT have a high failure rate... just a long, long recovery. Hang in there.
Leslie

Sep 25, 2012
To Neil NEW
by: Sara

Hang in there Neil. The surgery has a good success rate. It just isn't really a 4 mth recovery. I am 10 weeks tomorrow and it still sucks. I think I got my first decent nights sleep since the surgery. My PT ROM is doing well, though. My shoulder tightens quick so I have to do stretches twice per day.
This is a great site to get real feedback and encouragement.

Sep 25, 2012
wrist band NEW
by: Jack

i had pre op today they put on a wrist band i have surgery in 7 days so i cut the wristband off was i suppose to cut it off or leave it on????

Sep 25, 2012
surgery NEW
by: Anonymous

You will be ok don't worry.
It just takes time. Be patient.

Sep 25, 2012
surgery NEW
by: Anonymous

You will be ok don't worry.
It just takes time. Be patient.

Sep 25, 2012
wrist band NEW
by: Jack

well i cut it off i guess thats fine ,why would i leave it on for 7 days it would get so dirty from landscaping and brining dirt into the O R is not wise - sorry im just anxious

Sep 25, 2012
surgery NEW
by: Anonymous

You will be ok don't worry.
It just takes time. Be patient.

Sep 25, 2012
surgery NEW
by: Anonymous

You will be ok don't worry.
It just takes time. Be patient.

Sep 26, 2012
Hang In There NEW
by: Jana

Jack~
It's O.K. that you cut your band off. I'm sure they will have more:-)
Please try not to worry. You are going to make it through this and by next summer you are going to be through it and feeling sooooo much better and ready to get back to living your life. Will you be 100%?? That I don't know, but you will feel much much better....trust me....but the next 6 months are probably going to be very very difficult.
But you are ready! You can do this!! One more thing that I thought of that you MUST GET is at least a couple of tubes of Zim's MAX-FREEZE Gel. I'm 5+ months into recovery and I've used probably 5 or 6 so far.
I know you can do it...because if I can do it so can you. I'll be 50 yrs old in a couple of months, a woman, and not in very good shape and I've made it this far. My injury was in October of 2011, I suffered through the pain to try and be there for my mother who was in her last months of life battling cancer. My shoulder finally froze up completely. I couldn't take the pain any longer, it was excruciating....physically and mentally. Like I said I had my surgery April 3. Because my shoulder was frozen the doctor wanted to get me into P.T. the day after surgery, so he had to leave the bicep detached. Recovery has been long but I'm seeing improvement so I know we are heading in the right direction.
Eveyone is different...my husband's surgeries have both been so much better and he's had both shoulder's done. So hopefully yours won't be this bad...but if it is, you will be ready. You can do this.
On another note...I've cut back my meds to 6 pills a day, 1 every 4 hours instead of 2 every 6 hours. It was pretty rugged the first 3 days, my whole body hurt, pretty much wanted to put a gun to my head... but now I'm actually feeling better now than I have since the first day. So as soon as you can tolerate the pain with 1 10mg hydrocodone/APAP per dose instead of 2 then try and do that because I think that when you've been on them for months they can actually make you ache even worse.
Neil~I'm feeling for you buddy!! Please hand in there, you are going to feel better within the next couple of months. Maybe not great...but better and every little bit helps get us down the road to recovery!

Hang tough:-)
Jana

Sep 26, 2012
Agree NEW
by: Anonymous

Yes, I agree with the other ladies. Our surgeries haven't failed...it just takes a long long time for it to heal and the nerves to quiet.

Neil~That pain you are feeling in your back shoulder will go away. I had it too. It is from the shoulder being out of its correct position for so long. Try to pull your shoulder back as much as possible.

One more thing....you are going to be a great weather forcaster. Your pain level will tell you that a front is coming in. It's raining outside...that's why I'm here typing.

Later,
Jana

Sep 26, 2012
Agree NEW
by: Anonymous

Yes, I agree with the other ladies. Our surgeries haven't failed...it just takes a long long time for it to heal and the nerves to quiet.

Neil~That pain you are feeling in your back shoulder will go away. I had it too. It is from the shoulder being out of its correct position for so long. Try to pull your shoulder back as much as possible.

One more thing....you are going to be a great weather forcaster. Your pain level will tell you that a front is coming in. It's raining outside...that's why I'm here typing.

Later,
Jana

Sep 26, 2012
Ibuprofen NEW
by: JANA

I tried using Ibuprofen today to take less hydroco and it has REALLY helped me with less pain. I've tried Naproxen both perscription and OTC and it didn't help. Neither did aspirin, but the Ibuprofen has helped, I'm taking 2 200 mg tablets in between the hydroco to stretch that time period out as long as possible. Would really like to cut back to 2 hydroco a day by the end of my 6th month. However my surgery shoulder is feeling really good, it's the shoulder that is still injured that hurts me the most. So chin up folks, I'm at the end of 5 months and doing pretty darn good I think.

Sep 26, 2012
to Jana NEW
by: Leslie

Hey Jana-

As you ease off your prescription pain meds, since Ibuprofen worked so well for you today-- I wanted to make sure you knew that you can take 800mg of Ibuprofen every 6-8 hours. Most people just take the label dosage, which is 2-200 mg pills each dosage, but 4 200 mg pills (800 mg total) is the prescription dosage of Ibuprofen.

They gave me that after I had my children, and my sister in law is a pharmacist...

Hope this helps! If you already know this, just tell me to butt out!!! :) Glad you are feeling better-
Leslie

Sep 27, 2012
thanks NEW
by: Anonymous

Thank you so much leslie! I appreciate all the help i can get!! How many mg is permissible by"perscription" per day, do you know?

Sep 27, 2012
to Jana NEW
by: Leslie

hey Jana-

Im not 100% sure how many you can take in a 24 hour period, but I would think if you can take it every 6-8 hours (8 being preferable), that would mean up to 4 times a day, tops. Just take it with food, as it can really upset your stomach. If you ahve any questions, just call your pharmacist and they can answer, or if I can pin down my sister in law, I will ask her and post back. good luck and feel good..

Sep 27, 2012
vikes NEW
by: Anonymous

I know i know its extremely dangerous but ive taken 11 vicodin 7.5/750 within 6 hours i normally take 3 of those at once then 1 every hour... i think nucynta is actually the beat oain pill out and its less addictive

Sep 27, 2012
Ibuprofen NEW
by: Anonymous

You can get an Rx. For 600 or 800 mg.of ibuprofen from your Dr. They last a bit longer then the OTC. Meds.
You can take up to 3 to 4 a day but you should never exceed 3200 mg. of this medication as long term use can cause kidney problems especially if you have a propensity to this already. Liver issues are a concern also. I managed to take 800 mg a day which I took before I went to bed so I could sleep.
Reggie

Hope this helps
Hang in there.

Sep 27, 2012
to Vikes NEW
by: Anonymous

Hey-

PLEASE be careful taking that much pain medication is such a short span of time. Not only is the tylenol in the Vicodin horrible for your liver and kidneys, the Hydrocodone in it is tremendously addictive. You might want to talk to your Dr. if the label directions are not relieving your pain, as they can make adjustments that are safer.

Until that time, is there any way you can wean down back to the label dosage? One thing that will happen if you are not careful, is you will find that you run out of your meds before it is time, and that will raise a huge red flag with your Dr. anyway. There are several new laws regarding controlled substances, as prescription drug addiction has become such a huge problem.

Good Luck-- I know it is tough, hang in there...
Leslie

Sep 28, 2012
Wouldn't It Be Nice NEW
by: Anonymous

Wouldn't it be nice if they could just say, in this many months you will be pain free without drugs......and Oh to sleep through the night again...or even 6 hrs would be awesome!

Sep 28, 2012
Improvement NEW
by: Anonymous

Yes it would! The simple things in life like sleeping are such a pleasure. I'm 8 months PO. and still have some discomfort while sleeping. It is getting finally getting better. THANK GOODNESS! There is relief!!!!
For all of you who are recovering I know how you feel and just know it does improve. I really got lots of encouragement from this support site.

Reggie


Sep 28, 2012
Thanks Reggie NEW
by: Anonymous

It's nice to know that in a couple of months,I'll be feeling even better. As you know, sometimes you think...OMG is it going to be like this forever? My daughter is getting married in December, so imagine me...like this...and bridezilla in the same house?...Uugh

Oct 01, 2012
Here we go... NEW
by: JACK

Today i call after 1pm to get my surgery time for tomorrow, i feel like im jumping out of my skin... geeesh my recliner is being delivered this morning- i think im prepared with stuff around the house for post op but not prepared mentally.

Oct 01, 2012
Hey Jack NEW
by: Jana

Hi Jack~
You are in great physical shape so I'm pretty sure you are going to do alot better than some of us. But even if your recovery is typical...you can do this! Once you wake up, the surgery is over and everyday you are one day closer to being healthy again. I was back to work the next week...O.K....yes, I was on serious pain medication...but back to work.
Good Luck and I'll be praying for you. Stay in contact and let us know how you are doing.

Blessings,
Jana


Oct 01, 2012
Thanks Jana and everyone else for your support... NEW
by: JACK

I got confirmation that I have to be at the hospital at 11:00am tomorrow morning on 10/2 for registration the surgery will begin at 12:15pm.There saying it should take between 2 to 3 hours to anchor the labrum, suture the rotator cuff, shave the bone spurs and fix whatever else needs to be fixed. I'll be in recovery for 30 minutes to an hour so i figure ill be sent home around 5 pm the latest if all goes well. I just popped 2 Valium to relax my mind and body, it's starting to kick in and im feely A O K lol- Gotta get some more of this stuff. I have pain only when i do certain movements then its maybe a 3 outt of 10 with 10 being extreme and the doc gives me percocet 5/325 and it really doesnt work- I figure im gonna be a 10 the night and day after surgery so im hoping i get much stronger medication- Righ now im pigging out on cookies getting the last bit in becuase i want be able to eat until around 3 or 4 pm tomorrow after noon. Well i was nervous and worried until i took 10mgs of valium... LMAO I'll take like 5mgs tomorrow when i wake up which should do the trick.
I will see you all tomorrow or the next day depending how I feel.

Jack Bauer

Oct 01, 2012
Good luck jack NEW
by: Sara

Good luck Jack! You are having a lot done. Keep a positive attitude. I will be 11 weeks Wednesday and I feel like I have reached a turning point with a lot less pain. I also know that tomorrow might be more pain. But less than 2 weeks ago. Setbacks happen but nothing too severe for me. The tightness is getting less every few days.

Oct 01, 2012
jack NEW
by: Anonymous

Good luck Jack. All will be OK
Think positive.
Reggie

Oct 01, 2012
jack NEW
by: Anonymous

Good luck Jack. All will be OK
Think positive.
Reggie

Oct 01, 2012
Jack NEW
by: Anonymous

Hey, if it will make you feel better. If I could go ahead and have surgery on my other shoulder and get it out of the way, I'd trade places with you in a second.
You Can Do This,
Jana

Oct 02, 2012
Post Op... NEW
by: JACK

Hi guys! its me jack again.I had anterior labrum and bones sours repaired today. I went in surgery @ 12 today, and was out by 1:15!
They released me from the hosptial at around 3 pm. I had the nerve block prior to the surgery. I highly reccomend you doing this. They gave me something to calm my nerves first, then te block. It can last for up to 24 hours. As of right now, (8pm Eastern) my arm is still compleatly numb, and I have no pain.
I am going to rest in my recliner now, and see what tomorrow brings... as I will share it with you. Thanks for all your well wishes, and I will chat with you all tomorrow
JACK BAUER

Oct 02, 2012
to Jack NEW
by: leslie

Really??? Jack Bauer? Tough guy!!! :)
Glad to hear you are doing well. I agree, the block is AWESOME-- definitely a great decision! Mine lasted the whole first day of the surgery, and was gone by the time I woke up the next morning. The nurse advised me to go ahead and have some pain medication in my system even while I was still numb so I didn't have to play "catch up" with the pain meds once the block wore off. That was GREAT advice. You want to maintain a certain level of medication in your system, as trying to get good pain control from scratch can be a difficult thing to do (and painful!!) Another thing the nurse told my husband... She told him to watch me to make sure I was always keeping my surgery shoulder totally relaxed--(I had a tendency to tense it up-- you could tell, as it was a good inch above my other shoulder)- this is something I had to constantly remind myself to do---Stay in that recliner... mine was like GOLD to me-- I think I would have given away my first born to keep that thing!!! (just kidding, of course)I think you said you own yours, which is great. We rented one, thinking we would only need it for a month or two, and I used that thing for a full 5 months.
Also, did your Dr. prescribe you a passive motion chair? I thought all Dr.s did this, but apparently some dont. if he did, MAKE yourself get in it for the prescribed time(s) every day. That will only give you a head start with your ROM. Dont use it until your block has worn off, though. Im thrilled that it is behind you and that you are comfortable. Please keep in frequent contact and let us know how you are doing tomorrow! Take care!! leslie

Oct 02, 2012
Jack NEW
by: Anonymous

Great job Jack!. Now you can move forward.

Reggie

Oct 02, 2012
Pop from Jack NEW
by: JACK

i rented the recliner for $125 per month- i dont have a passive mover- i will give you up dates tomorrow i think i need valium now cause i cant sit still

Oct 02, 2012
Jack NEW
by: Anonymous

Hey Buddy~
So glad to hear that all went well! The pre-opp nerve block is a MUST...so glad you got that. It is a mental relief to come out of surgery and not have any immediate pain, you will probably sleep pretty good tonight. Definitely take some medicine before the block wears off. As the old saying goes...an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
So are you gonna be immobilized for 7 wks or so? What have they said about when you'll start PT?
I hadn't heard anything about that passive motion chair? What's that??

Sleep Well Everyone...tomorrow is a new day.
Jana

Oct 02, 2012
Passive motion chair NEW
by: Leslie

The passive motion chair is awesome. My Dr. prescribed that to me (paid for by insurance) as well as a continuous cold pack that runs cold water over your surgery site... no messy ice packs to deal with. It is on loan from the durable medical equipment co. for as long as you need it (I kept it about 6 weeks, until I was really getting into PT) and then they come and take it away. They set it up, show you how to use it, and then come get it. no problem.

Anyway, the passive motion chair is literally a chair that you sit in, put your surgery arm in a sling-like holder that is operated by remote control. It is pre-set by the home health company (my doctor ordered what level they were to set it for...) that comes and sets it up to passively manipulate your arm/shoulder to certain degrees of movement, which is very gradually increased as you can tolerate it. It allows you to not go to actual PT for a little while longer (as we all know getting dressed and getting out is HUGELY difficult!!). Anyway, the device moves your arm/shoulder passively out to your side and up to a certain level on its own, so you can get a jump on working on your range of motion- It is painless, and helps prevent your shoulder freezing up early and also makes those first few visits to PT easier, as the very beginnings of establishing ROM has already been done. Im sure yall's doctors are great, but I cant understand why these are not used by all orthopedists out there who do SLAP repairs. Ive talked to some friends of mine around here (I live in Atlanta) who have used different docs for the same surgery, and they have all had the chair. They even have one for people who have had knee replacements--- Hope this helps! If you (God forbid) ever have to have this kind of surgery again, it is worth asking about. I have one of the WORST insurance companies to deal with in the world. They only approve what is totally medically proven to do good, and they approved this with no issue whatsoever. Good Luck!!!

Oct 03, 2012
Leslie NEW
by: Jana

Wow, that passive motion chair sounds amazing. I don't understand my Dr. not mentioning it. He was an orthopedic surgeon for the L.A. Lakers..I'm sure he's got to be familiar with it. Well, I have surgery on my other shoulder in January, I'll definitely be asking him about it with this one.

Good Night Y'All,
Jana

Oct 03, 2012
JACKS Follow up, post up the day after NEW
by: JACK

Hello my friends, well its almost 24 hours after surgery. The nerve pain block wore off @ 5am lasted 17 hours, wow i don't wish this excruciatin pain on anyone...
It's horrible up every hour all night. I an't stop peeing lol.
Parent are visiting i will return shortly.

Jack Bauer

Oct 03, 2012
Jack NEW
by: Anonymous

Oh, you poor guy. Hang tough it's a long haul. Don't worry it will get better.

Reggie

Oct 03, 2012
Jack NEW
by: Jana

Oh Jack...I know it is so horrible. Do you live with anyone that can help you out?
Don't be shy about taking your pain medicine. Make sure that you eat with them or they will make you sick to your stomach and you certainly don't need that.

We're with you buddy...Jana

Oct 03, 2012
Jack NEW
by: Anonymous

How's it going today Jack? Thinking about you. Take your meds.

Reggie

Oct 03, 2012
POST OP meds NEW
by: JACK

intense pain came back had to call emergency # to get a new script i have percocet 5/325 he gave me Hydromorphone 2mg and that did the trick.

Oct 04, 2012
Meds NEW
by: Jana

Glad you got something that works. I take (1) 10 mg hydroco/ 325 mg Acetamin and (2) 200mg each Ibuprofen every 4 hours. When I first had surgery, I took 2 of the hydroco/Acetamin every 4 hrs.

Get what you need or it's going to be even harder than it has to be.

Jana

Oct 04, 2012
PAIN NEW
by: JACK

That combo worked great slepy 9 hours in bed

Oct 04, 2012
Jack NEW
by: Anonymous

Sounds like its a little tough right now. Take whatever works for you. It's really important that you rest ( lol) almost impossible after shoulder surgery!!!! Sending you positive thoughts and big hugs too.
Reggie

Oct 04, 2012
Thanks Reggie NEW
by: JACK

I just called my sergeon left a message that im running out of that crappy 5/325 percocet i need something stronger - at night time come around 3 or 4 pm is when the pain starts to get really bad. the 2 mg hydromorphone works very good for only about 1 hour. urggg i need somethig thats gonna last longer . also the percosets i can take 3 of them at they last like 3 hours long. maybe they can give me 10/325 or something like that.

JACK BAUER

Oct 04, 2012
Jack NEW
by: Jana

Jack~
Oh yes, they have stronger meds in their arsenal. Like I said, my surgeon put me on 10 mg hydrocodone w/ 325 Acetamenophen on day one. Thank you Jesus is all I can say:-)

Jana

Oct 04, 2012
Meds NEW
by: Sara

Jack,
I also had norco 10/325. Strange that they didn't start you on that. Advil with that, too, is key. We have all been there and it sucks but stay positive. 10-11 weeks was a great improvement for me.

Oct 05, 2012
Jack NEW
by: Jana

Jack~
You HAVE to address your pain medication situation with your doctor and get the stronger stuff. The road is too long to be taking something that only gives you 1 hr of relief.
I agree with Sara. Take Advil(same as Ibuprofen) with your pain meds. This helps alot with the pain that is coming from inflamation, because it is an anti-inflamatory. I take 2 200 mg Advil(Ibuprofen) tablets OTC with 1 10mg Norco(Hydrocodone Acetomenofen combination)every 4 hours. This gives me 4 functional hours of pain relief.
When I first had surgery, I took 2 10mg Norco every 4 hours. Then I reduced it to 2 every 6 hours, but I found that I got more pain relief taking 1 pill every 4 hours + the 2 Advil. This might be something you want to try.
I don't know where you live but another thing you are going to find out is that when you have a weather front coming in, your going to feel a significant amount of pain from that. I think it has something to do with the barometric pressure. There is one rumbling on the horizon right now and that is in large part why I've been up every stinking hour.
On a brighter and more optomistic note, I've started my 6th month since surgery and my shoulder feels really good and I probably wouldn't be on anything other than the Advil IF it wasn't for my other bad shoulder that I'm having surgery on in January. I don't have 100% percent range of motion yet...but that is probably my fault.
Let us know if we can have any more questions.

Jana

Oct 05, 2012
Pain NEW
by: Jana

.....or if you even need to vent about your pain or progress and you wonder if there is anyone out there who understands...WE DO!!

Oct 05, 2012
PAIN NEW
by: JACK

one 2mg of HYDROMORPHONE works great with 2 percocets 5/325 but they wont give me anymore hydro only 10 pills- with that tm sleeping in the bed for 10 hours per night and sleep that helps healing. tonight i take the dressing off and take a shower '' can't wait''
i take my arm out of sling 3 times per day to move the elbow so it dont stiffen on me. my wife rubbed my arm and feet last night for hours i was in heaven.

JACK BAUER

Oct 05, 2012
To Jack NEW
by: leslie

They wont give you but 10 more hydrocodone? REALLY?
Let me make sure Im understanding this... you have the Hydromorphone that they gave you, but once you run out of the Percocet 5s, that is it?

WOW. I really, really hope I am reading that wrong.
I would definitely have a talk w the dr. That will
not do at all. The strongest pain meds my dr ever gave to me were the percocet 5s, but he wasnt stingy with them so soon after surgery. Gave me 60 day of surgery, then another 60 3 days later. After that, moved me from Percocet (which is actually Oxycodone) to hydrocodone (generic vicodin) 7.5 for a few more weeks, then down to 5's, etc.

You are way too fresh out of surgery to be out of your staple pain meds. Id hate to see you in the ER over the weekend because your pain isnt being addressed... keep his after hours phone # ready... and dont be afraid to use it!
Good luck for a restful weekend-
leslie

Oct 05, 2012
Meds NEW
by: Sara

Advil might be ok. I say that because I didn't use the pain killers until the 3rd week after I took a couple the 2nd day and passed out. I thought it was a reaction to them so I only used Advil. Then the pain really kicked in week 3 and I used them without an issue. Although I agree the doc seems crazy not to give more. I had 40 Norco right away in the prescription.

Oct 05, 2012
Meds NEW
by: Jana

I agree with everyone Jack. Looks like you may have to talk to him directly about his philosophy on pain medication. I hope you do O.K. through the weekend, but don't hesitate to discuss this with him. When they ask you what your pain level is on a scale of 1-10 definitely tell them a 10!

When I've gone in for my post surgery check ups, I specifically talk to him about my pain medicine regime and how long he will let me refill them. I told him that the last thing I want is for him to cut me off cold turkey and then for me to be suffering all weekend long.

I'm always sorry to hear people say they have negative reactions to their pain meds. I've been fortunate to not have any at all other than nausea if taken on an empty stomach. I keep a carton of that Iced Coffee by Delight in the frig and take them with it if I'm not eating a meal.

Hang In There,
Jana

Oct 05, 2012
Kinda Jealous NEW
by: Jana

I've got to say that I'm kinda jealous about the sleeping 10 hours part! That is AWESOME!! The most sleep I've had is 4 hours without waking up in pain. That is very good news!!

Oct 05, 2012
Jealous NEW
by: Sara

Have to say I am jealous too about how much you have gotten to sleep at night. For 11 weeks I was getting 4-5 hours. It is so broken up thru the night due to being uncomfortable. Even a pain pill doesn't knock me out.

Oct 06, 2012
Pain meds NEW
by: JACK

before the surgery they gave me 5/325 percoset which i s for mild to moderate pain then post op surgery i got the same medicatiobn which was doing nothing to control the pain so i call the emergency # on call doctor and they gave me hydromophone 2mg which killed thr pain only for and hour aonly gave me 10 of those pills. I have a folloq up on 10/11 maybe they will change the meds gesssssh....

My wife took off my bandages i have 4 holes looks like its healing very clean ahe also helped me shower then rubbed my feet what a gem she has been the oast few days- i think i fell in love with her all over again...

Oct 06, 2012
You've got a great one there NEW
by: Jack

Sounds like your wife if a jewel. Tell her often how much you appreciate her and this will be remembered as a great time for your marriage. My husband was hit by a drunk driver head on 26 yrs. ago...though I'd never want to go through it again or wish it on anyone, it brought us very close together.

Blessings,
Jana

Oct 10, 2012
Jack? NEW
by: Sara

Curious as to how you are doing Jack. Hope you are as good as can be expected.

Oct 10, 2012
jack NEW
by: Anonymous

Hi Jack. How are you these days? You have been very
quiet . Hope all is ok.
Reggie

Oct 10, 2012
jack NEW
by: Anonymous

Hi Jack. How are you these days? You have been very
quiet . Hope all is ok.
Reggie

Oct 10, 2012
jack NEW
by: Anonymous

Hi Jack. How are you these days? You have been very
quiet . Hope all is ok.
Reggie

Oct 10, 2012
follow up NEW
by: JACK is back

I have doctor's appointment tomorrow morning I have been taking my arm out ofmy the sling few times a day to move my elbow I'm 8 days post op and I would say it's more painful now. Sleeping is extremely uncomfortable. I think tomorrow the doctor will give me a script for physical therapy and take out my stitches Hopefully I'll get more pain medication because I'm out. The skin where are the incisions were or muscles does not hurt it feels like a deep dull sharp pain in the joint. my wife has been a tremendous help believe it or not I feel like it brought us closer with our marriage.

Oct 10, 2012
follow up NEW
by: JACK is back

I have doctor's appointment tomorrow morning I have been taking my arm out ofmy the sling few times a day to move my elbow I'm 8 days post op and I would say it's more painful now. Sleeping is extremely uncomfortable. I think tomorrow the doctor will give me a script for physical therapy and take out my stitches Hopefully I'll get more pain medication because I'm out. The skin where are the incisions were or muscles does not hurt it feels like a deep dull sharp pain in the joint. my wife has been a tremendous help believe it or not I feel like it brought us closer with our marriage.

Oct 10, 2012
follow up NEW
by: JACK is back

I have doctor's appointment tomorrow morning I have been taking my arm out ofmy the sling few times a day to move my elbow I'm 8 days post op and I would say it's more painful now. Sleeping is extremely uncomfortable. I think tomorrow the doctor will give me a script for physical therapy and take out my stitches Hopefully I'll get more pain medication because I'm out. The skin where are the incisions were or muscles does not hurt it feels like a deep dull sharp pain in the joint. my wife has been a tremendous help believe it or not I feel like it brought us closer with our marriage.

Oct 11, 2012
Jack NEW
by: Sara

It does get more painful. Week 3 was horrible for me. Hope the doc gives you something. You will need it. Remember ibuprofen every 4 hours. It is a humbling experience when your spouse has rondo so much for you. My hubby was great! Sleep will not be great for weeks. Sorry but you need honesty. Thanks for the update.

Oct 11, 2012
To Jack NEW
by: Anonymous

Hey Jack-

How was your Dr. appt today? Did he prescribe you more pain meds? I really hope so, considering you are, what...about 2 weeks out from surgery? I was on pain meds for about 6 months and was told by my Dr that some people stay on them for longer than I did- I kept going down on my dosage and strength, but was still on the big boys... the Vicodin 7.5s 2 weeks out from surgery. That is normal with this surgery. Going without pain meds this soon is not.
Im just asking, as I was really surprised that you were without any pain meds in the days leading up to your appt. That is crazy! Advil/Ibuprofen helps some, but at this stage of the game you need the prescription stuff. Let us know what he said about that, and about your progress. Hope all is starting to improve some! Take care-

Oct 11, 2012
Doctors visit NEW
by: JACK

Hi All ,

I went to the doctors today he took out my stitches and said im healing up nicely im only 9 days post op and he said i need to start PT right away. Physcial Therapy said that i will start on monday and they are very suprised people ususally dont start for 6 weeks after surgery. So I guess i'm ahead of schedule because i have been in the gym for the past 9 years and im very fit and healthy and healing mighty quickly.

Oct 15, 2012
so down with this NEW
by: neil harris (ENGLAND)

im now at neary 5 weeks since my labrum tear was fixed -small tear in my rotator cuff and a big tear on my superspinator tendon im still in agony in back of my shoulder -ive played sport all my life and been member of gym for 30 years -i got knocked of my bike when i got all these injuries -im really down with the pain -ive had 16 ops before smashed my leg up in rugby ,broke arm 3 lamanectomies (back disc removal) but this pain is so intense and i cant believe its ever gonna get better -it feels like its popped back out-my physio gonna try accupuncture next -anybody tried it after surgery-going for a walk now to keep this fat belly getting fatter was anybody else in loads of pain in rear shoulder then suddenly it started to improve -im desperate for some success stories

Oct 15, 2012
All We Can Do Is Hang In There NEW
by: Jana

Unless, you are one of the rare few...you will have intense pain for 6 months. About the time you think that it will never get better, it does ease up. Unfortunately for several months, pain meds are your best friend. You'll have pain in the joint itself ranging from a continual ache to outright jolts of pain. You will likely have intense pain for awhile in your shoulder blade area. You will also have shooting pain that goes down your arm, elbow, wrist and hand. Occasionally, I will still have a jolt of pain that goes across my clavical/collar bone. I'm working on my 7th month post op. It is proving to be a very llloonnnggg and painful recovery.
All we can do is hang in there.

Blessings,
Jana

Oct 17, 2012
jana NEW
by: neil harris (ENGLAND)

how you explain the pain -dull ache and jolts of agony is bang on- at what stage will be able to move my arm without agony

Oct 17, 2012
jana NEW
by: neil harris (ENGLAND)

how you explain the pain -dull ache and jolts of agony is bang on- at what stage will be able to move my arm without agony

Oct 17, 2012
jana NEW
by: neil harris (ENGLAND)

how you explain the pain -dull ache and jolts of agony is bang on- at what stage will be able to move my arm without agony

Oct 17, 2012
jana NEW
by: Jack

Hi Jana,

You hit it right on the head about the pain you described. i'm 15 days post op and having all of the above with extreme stifness heading to Physical Therapy right now... 5/325 percocest with advil barely works and im out after today hopefully i can get a new script by tomorrow.

Oct 17, 2012
Shoulder Blade and Stiff Neck NEW
by: Kristina

Hi Everyone,

I have been reading your posts and appreciate hearing everyone's experiences. I have a question related to Jana and Jack's recent post; I am 20 days post op from surgery for a SLAP tear in my left shoulder and my pain has shifted from a dull/aching pain around the joint to pain in my left shoulder blade and stiff/soreness in my upper trap muscle above the shoulder blade. I was wondering if anyone else is having stiffness/soreness in the trapezius muscle above the shoulder blade and into the neck.

Good luck everyone with your recovery and I hope all of our pain goes away soon.

Oct 17, 2012
more info NEW
by: Anonymous

Hi Guys,
First I want to clarify something that I said about the pain in the joint itself ranging from a dull ache to full blown jolts of pain. To someone who hasn't experience "the dull ache" you might think...Oh, well that's no big deal. But what has been my experience is that "the dull ache" is in fact equally painful in its own way. It is constant and incessant. It's like a toothache that makes you want to yank the tooth out of your head. I know why animals will chew their own leg off to relieve their pain. It engulfs your every thought dealing with the pain. If you are experiencing the "dull ache" trust me, I understand what you are going through. Hopefully, you will find some relief in the following information.

Month 1-3
There is a network of nerves that run through the shoulder, down the arm/elbow/wrist/hand, across the chest/collar bone/neck and across the shoulder blades/upper back. They all will likely hurt from one time to another. They are injured, inflamed and sometimes it feels like they are confused because why the heck would my wrist and collar bone be hurting too? It's like the pain from the shoulder shoots random signals to all these other locations. It take along time for these nerves to be quieted.
I recommend having 2 gel icepacks in the freezer so that one is frozen and ready to go at all times. Your shoulder needs to be iced (20-30 min) several times a day after surgery and everyday throughout the duration to reduce pain, swelling, inflamation and promote healing. Use Max Freeze Gel liberally and it will bring you relief as well. If there is ever a surgery that needs perscription pain meds this surely is it. So don't hesitate to talk to your doctor about his plan for your pain therapy. If you are like me, you aren't going to see alot of improvement in pain during months 1-3, it's pretty much survival mode. Physical therapy is a must but it's a killer.

Months 3-4
Your shoulder blade should be feeling much better by your 3-4th month. The pain results from the shoulder blade being pulled out of position during the days before surgery. Try regularly squeezing your shoulder blades together. Definitely have someone rub Max Freeze into your shoulder blade area at night before you go to bed. I rub it over the length of my arm to help with the pain in my arm, elbow, wrist and even hand sometimes. It helps alot for a couple of hours, but unfortunately it is temporary. I used this from day one and still use it.

continued

Oct 17, 2012
Continued NEW
by: Anonymous

Month 4-5
I started seeing a little light at the end of the tunnel. I often over did activity and set myself back. I still required perscription pain meds. I also added a heating pad to my routine. I found that often a heating pad on the shoulder while watching T.V. helps quiet the nerves.I also recommend getting 2 travel size pillows from Walmart. I put one under my shoulder/arm/elbow and then another under my elbow/wrist/hand at whatever angle feels the most comfortable when trying to sleep.

Month 6-7
Compared to how it was...it feels great. Yes, there is some pain, stiffness and lack of ROM but nothing you can't handle with a couple of Extra Strength Excedrin and your other tools for pain relief and doing your PT execises. My husband finds Naproxen very helpful but they don't do anything for me.

My current problem is that I've injured my other shoulder...how you may ask??...by demonstating how I hurt the first shoulder and then overusing it to compensate after surgery. CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT! I blew my shoulder on a frozen morning last winter putting my seatbelt on! Not even anything impressive!! Evidently, the yanking motion coming down and across the body is causing many injuries because the insurance company was well aware of it. So be careful this winter.

Hang In There,
Jana

Oct 17, 2012
Kristina NEW
by: Jana

Shifting pain locations was pretty common with my recovery. I went through the shoulder blade, neck pain fairly early on and it has been gone now for quite a while and I'm in my 7th month. I got some relief by using a heating pad instead of only ice and having my husband rub Max Freeze on the area.Don't forget to do some slow neck rolls everyday to stretch those neck muscles out.

Blessings,
Jana

Oct 17, 2012
Kristina NEW
by: Jack

Hi Kristina,

Im 15 days post op slap tear left shoulder... therapy just called my doctor telling them i should get in there right away and sent me home becuase i have a red blotchy line from the top of shoulder to the arm pit and they were concerned plus the pain id sharp now and hurting from my collar bone to my wrist. This is no joke

Jack

Oct 17, 2012
Jana and Jack NEW
by: Kristina

Thanks, Jana for all of your information. I appreciate the detail, it's very help. I will certainly try the heating pad. I also found today that when I take my arm out of the sling the pain goes away, so I may have to adjust my sling a little bit and make sure it's not pushing my arm up putting pressure on my shoulder blade and trap muscle. I hope your pain starts to go away soon after 7 months of dealing with it.

Jake, I'm sorry to hear about the blotches and your pain from the collar bone to your wrist. That doesn't sound good. Keep us posted on what your doctor says. I hope it's nothing serious.

Take care,
Kristina

Oct 17, 2012
Info NEW
by: Sara

Jack, sorry to hear about this red line and major pain. Hope there isn't an infection. To Kristina, I had that pain, too. Pain shifts around as you heal. Doc was right on that. Bio freeze or Taurmeel helps and deep tissue massage. There is so much improvement that comes when you get to 11 weeks. When full ROM is reached it is a world of difference. No more constant pain. There is some throbbing from stretching and tension bands, but it goes away. All the pain you are experiencing in the shoulder blade and even the neck takes a long time to go away. And I felt the same as you-felt better out of the sling around 4 weeks and then I only used it when my arm got tired. I was to do ball squeezing, scapula pull backs and shoulder shrugs 2-3 times a day starting the day after the surgery. I didn't do it quite that often but I should have. It does aid in recovery.

Oct 17, 2012
response NEW
by: Anonymous

Just wanted to echo the responses that said how normal it is to have the pain in the shoulder blade and to have it moving around.

For months after surgery, there was a place beneath my shoulder blade in my back that hurt SOOO much. It was obviously deep--lying on it just made it worse, but NOT lying on it didn't take away the pain by any means. It was painful, annoying, nagging and damn persistent! I did ask my Dr. and he said it was totally normal, as during surgery they had to dig underneath my shoulder blade to fasten or fix something or other. As far as the pain moving around, yes, that happens and is normal as well. Beneath the shoulder blade is part of the anatomy that makes up the complete shoulder. Besides the pain under my shoulder blade, I had horrible pain in my actual shoulder and down my arm all the way to my elbow. Any day it was anyone's guess as to where the bulk of the pain would be...for no rhyme or reason. It radiates down, as they have to cut and stretch the tendons to reattach them- that is part of what makes getting ROM back so hard--- you have to stretch those tendons/muscles into doing the job that they used to do with more material to work with! When I first got back on the tennis court, my pain didnt center in my shoulder at all. It was in my upper arm, but mostly, it settled in my elbow--- weird. Anatomically, there are just so many different body parts that make up the shoulder, pain can radiate and affect you in ways you would never imagine.
Good news, and hopefully something to look forward to for all of you, is that I am a year post surgery and feel as if I NEVER had the surgery at all. I feel GREAT, am swinging the tennis racket as well as I did before, and am totally and completely back to normal. Better than normal, even.

Jana- have you had tests on your non-operative shoulder that show damage? I felt the same as you- I could have SWORN with everything I own that I had injured my left (non operative) shoulder due to overuse mostly...I felt the same pain, weakness...even worse...than I did in my surgical shoulder, ROM was not normal, etc... It took awhile, but with some ice and heat and Advil, everything was fine. I didnt actually damage anything--- but it sure felt that way for a long time! I completely was preparing myself for surgery on my left shoulder--I was convinced. Just hang in there guys...I am proof that there is light at the end of the tunnel and that this surgery WORKS and is WORTH IT! You will just get a lesson in patience that nobody who doesn't get this surgery will ever understand!!! Hang in there!!! Good luck to you all, and use this forum to vent anytime-- we are all here for you!!

Oct 18, 2012
Anonomous NEW
by: Jana

Thank you Anonomous, your post was very encouraging.
I am scheduling an MRI on my 2nd shoulder to find out. I've been pretty sure that my 2nd shoulder has the same injury as my first, because when I was demonstrating for the Doctor with my second shoulder what I had done to injure the first, I felt a pop and then pain in that should too. If my second shoulder doesn't need surgery, why is it taking so long to see any improvement in the pain level, I wonder? How long did it take for your 2nd shoulder to heal? That would be so wonderful if my 2nd shoulder would be painfree by my daughter's wedding in December...but it has a long long way to go to get there.

Jana:)


Oct 18, 2012
Jack NEW
by: Jana

Yes Jack, Please let us know what the doctor says about that red line and the associated pain. I can understand why the PT would be concerned.

Jana

Oct 18, 2012
5 WEEKS SINCE MY SHOULDER OPS NEW
by: neil harris (ENGLAND)

your comments are all bang on to whati am going through and its true unless you have had this surgery ive had lots of surgery in past and this is by far the worst op and pain ive ever experienced and the successul stories helping me stay sane -im going drs to get some pain killers today, in england i get tremodol and naxproxen which are good but give me stomach ache and my physio gonna try accupuncture to alleviate some of the pain-i will let you all know how that goes -ive got gym in my garage and i cant wait for the pain to go so i can start moving it and strenghthening im 5 weeks since op -does anybody think i will be able to cycle soon?

Oct 18, 2012
5 WEEKS SINCE MY SHOULDER OPS NEW
by: neil harris (ENGLAND)

your comments are all bang on to whati am going through and its true unless you have had this surgery ive had lots of surgery in past and this is by far the worst op and pain ive ever experienced and the successul stories helping me stay sane -im going drs to get some pain killers today, in england i get tremodol and naxproxen which are good but give me stomach ache and my physio gonna try accupuncture to alleviate some of the pain-i will let you all know how that goes -ive got gym in my garage and i cant wait for the pain to go so i can start moving it and strenghthening im 5 weeks since op -does anybody think i will be able to cycle soon?

Oct 18, 2012
5 WEEKS SINCE MY SHOULDER OPS NEW
by: neil harris (ENGLAND)

your comments are all bang on to whati am going through and its true unless you have had this surgery ive had lots of surgery in past and this is by far the worst op and pain ive ever experienced and the successul stories helping me stay sane -im going drs to get some pain killers today, in england i get tremodol and naxproxen which are good but give me stomach ache and my physio gonna try accupuncture to alleviate some of the pain-i will let you all know how that goes -ive got gym in my garage and i cant wait for the pain to go so i can start moving it and strenghthening im 5 weeks since op -does anybody think i will be able to cycle soon?

Oct 18, 2012
5 WEEKS SINCE MY SHOULDER OPS NEW
by: neil harris (ENGLAND)

your comments are all bang on to whati am going through and its true unless you have had this surgery ive had lots of surgery in past and this is by far the worst op and pain ive ever experienced and the successul stories helping me stay sane -im going drs to get some pain killers today, in england i get tremodol and naxproxen which are good but give me stomach ache and my physio gonna try accupuncture to alleviate some of the pain-i will let you all know how that goes -ive got gym in my garage and i cant wait for the pain to go so i can start moving it and strenghthening im 5 weeks since op -does anybody think i will be able to cycle soon?

Oct 18, 2012
To Neil NEW
by: Anonymoussara

I was told walking and stationary biking are fine at 4 weeks. However, with me, all movement hurt so much even it was lower body. So I did nothing. Around 11 weeks was when I finally was good out walking without a ton of pain.

Oct 22, 2012
Two Years After Surgery NEW
by: TKR

My last post was 18 Dec 2010. I had the labrum repaired and had bicep tenodesis done. I wanted to let everyone out there know that now alomst two years since the surgery I am doing fantastic. I swim 4 days a week about 3000 yards each time. I can do everything and anything I want, which was not the case before the surgery.

Yes, it was a long recovery process, I took Percaset for 3 months straight, everytime I talked to my surgeon about a refil I expressed my concern of becoming addicted...he kept saying don't worry about it...and I never did get hooked.

The PT was very difficult and painful in the beginning but it continually got better. I was swimming a little within 4 months doing push ups at 6 months. I swam my first open water race since the surgery at 20 months post op and did really well.

So all of you that have doubts, know that it worked out for me. It was a long and painful recovery but the end result made it worth it.

Get the shoulder block shot before you go into the operating room, sleep in a recliner, stay ahead of your pain by taking your pain meds before it gets out of control, do your PT (but don't over do it), and have confidence that your shoulder will heal.

Best of luck.

TKR

Oct 22, 2012
Follow up NEW
by: JACK

Hi Jana and all,

I went to the doctors 10/18 last thursday he took xrays everything look fine. the reason why i had that red blochy line was applying heat irritated the area where the anchors where puy in also from over work with excersizes. I am feeling alot better now. I resume my PT today. I am am 19 days post op and able while lying on my back point my elbow to ceiling with the help of my good arm that is 90degress forward elevation and thats where i should be at. I am in still alot of pain when not taking my pain pills the doctor says i can take percocent and advil together which takes away the pain completely. I dont use heat anymore which i shouldn't anyway ice is my best friend. Well if i had to get this done again i would. people said its worse than my knee surgery rutured petalla tendon but thats not true for me a ruptured petella knee tendon was 100 times more painful. I go to PT in 2 hours should be there for an hour or so. I am also doing my excersizes at home 3 times per day or more if i can handle it.

Jack Bauer

Oct 22, 2012
So Glad You All Are Doing Well NEW
by: Jana

It's nice to hear that people are seeing improvement. It's especially nice to hear that at 2years you feel completely healed again!!
Hang in there everyone.

Well, speaking of hanging in there...I'd like to ask for your prayers. Some of you may remember, I mentioned that my mother died of cancer 4 months ago(2 months after my shoulder surgery). Sadly, this past Thursday I found my father dead on the floor in his house. It was a huge shock, because he was in good health for his age. My mother died on the 3rd Thursday of June and my father died on the 3rd Thursday of October, he lasted only 4 months. His funeral is tomorrow and I appreciate all the prayers I can get.

Thank You,
Jana

Oct 22, 2012
SO SAD NEW
by: JACK

OMG that is terrible my thoughts are with you and your family.

Oct 22, 2012
Dad NEW
by: Reggie

Jana,
You poor girl I am so sorry to hear about
your Dad especially on the heels of your moms
death. I lost 5 family members in an 11 month period
18 months ago. Two of them sisters. We are never
prepared for these losses. My prayers
are with you.
Reggie

Oct 22, 2012
Dad NEW
by: Reggie

Jana,
You poor girl I am so sorry to hear about
your Dad especially on the heels of your moms
death. I lost 5 family members in an 11 month period
18 months ago. Two of them sisters. We are never
prepared for these losses. My prayers
are with you.
Reggie

Oct 22, 2012
im still moaning NEW
by: neil harris (ENGLAND)

so sad for you jana -sorry to hear that xx id like to say thankyou to the chap 2 years on thats doing swimming and stuff -im nearly 6 weeks and keep thinking this pain in rear shoulder not normal -i didnt have pain like this before just a nuicance pain and awful neck pain but when surgeon went in he found front tear -rotator cuff tear and labrum tear but surely it shouldnt hurt more now than before ,after nearly 6 weeks?

Oct 22, 2012
im still moaning NEW
by: neil harris (ENGLAND)

so sad for you jana -sorry to hear that xx id like to say thankyou to the chap 2 years on thats doing swimming and stuff -im nearly 6 weeks and keep thinking this pain in rear shoulder not normal -i didnt have pain like this before just a nuicance pain and awful neck pain but when surgeon went in he found front tear -rotator cuff tear and labrum tear but surely it shouldnt hurt more now than before ,after nearly 6 weeks?

Oct 22, 2012
im still moaning NEW
by: neil harris (ENGLAND)

so sad for you jana -sorry to hear that xx id like to say thankyou to the chap 2 years on thats doing swimming and stuff -im nearly 6 weeks and keep thinking this pain in rear shoulder not normal -i didnt have pain like this before just a nuicance pain and awful neck pain but when surgeon went in he found front tear -rotator cuff tear and labrum tear but surely it shouldnt hurt more now than before ,after nearly 6 weeks?

Oct 22, 2012
im still moaning NEW
by: neil harris (ENGLAND)

so sad for you jana -sorry to hear that xx id like to say thankyou to the chap 2 years on thats doing swimming and stuff -im nearly 6 weeks and keep thinking this pain in rear shoulder not normal -i didnt have pain like this before just a nuicance pain and awful neck pain but when surgeon went in he found front tear -rotator cuff tear and labrum tear but surely it shouldnt hurt more now than before ,after nearly 6 weeks?

Oct 22, 2012
TKR NEW
by: neil harris (ENGLAND)

HOW OLD ARE YOU TKR -IM AN OLD 47 COS IVE PLAYED SPORT AND LIFTED WEIGHTS ALL MY LIFE

Oct 22, 2012
TKR NEW
by: neil harris (ENGLAND)

HOW OLD ARE YOU TKR -IM AN OLD 47 COS IVE PLAYED SPORT AND LIFTED WEIGHTS ALL MY LIFE

Oct 22, 2012
Update NEW
by: Sara

First of all, my sympathies to you Jana. I am so sorry to hear about your dad. My prayers to you.
Jack, no heat, only ice. Heat can come later to help Loosen it for ROM. I can just about get full ROM on my own and I am 13 weeks out. All on par. Amazing how the pain started dying down once the PT got me to full range. The other shoulder blade and neck pain go away too. So yes, there is light at the end of the tunnel.

Oct 22, 2012
pt NEW
by: JACK

Physical therapy is applying heat before and Ice after i had a terrific session today. no pain! i am only 2 1/2 weeks out and have full range of motion. I am advancing extremly fast.

Oct 22, 2012
Jack NEW
by: Sara

That is amazing Jack! You are an anomaly! I am jealous! However, happy for you.

Oct 22, 2012
To Neil NEW
by: Leslie

Hi Neil-

I just wanted to let you know that the shoulder blade pain/discomfort in your back is COMPLETELY normal, even this far out. Im at a year post-surgery and am back to normal now, but it was a LONG recovery--and the shoulder blade discomfort in the back of my shoulder was one of the LAST pains to go away. You are still early in the game, relative to the normal recovery process, so dont let it get you down or let you suspect that something is wrong. It is completely normal and will hold on for a long time...but it WILL eventually go away. I tried everything... ice, heat... not sitting back where that part of my back was against the sofa, not sleeping on my back, etc... hoping it would help...but nothing helped but time. I did ask my Dr. about it and he told me to be patient, that it is one of those nagging things about this surgery that takes a lot longer than expected to go away.
Just wanted to make sure you knew it was totally normal, and that it might last awhile-- having your expectations set correctly helps you be more patient and keeps you from thinking there is something weird wrong, I think. You are right where you should be-- maybe even further along!

Good Luck!!!
Leslie

Oct 22, 2012
Question Jack NEW
by: Sara

Jack,
How many anchors did you have?

Oct 23, 2012
leslie NEW
by: neil harris (ENGLAND)

thanks leslie its nice to know its normal but its so frustrating -you think ooh not quite as bad today-so you try a few pt movements and i seem to be back in agony -taking loads of tremadol-i so wanna get in the gym and start cycling and just lifting light weights but just to be able to get money out of pocket without screaming would be nice

Oct 23, 2012
leslie NEW
by: neil harris (ENGLAND)

thanks leslie its nice to know its normal but its so frustrating -you think ooh not quite as bad today-so you try a few pt movements and i seem to be back in agony -taking loads of tremadol-i so wanna get in the gym and start cycling and just lifting light weights but just to be able to get money out of pocket without screaming would be nice

Oct 23, 2012
leslie NEW
by: neil harris (ENGLAND)

thanks leslie its nice to know its normal but its so frustrating -you think ooh not quite as bad today-so you try a few pt movements and i seem to be back in agony -taking loads of tremadol-i so wanna get in the gym and start cycling and just lifting light weights but just to be able to get money out of pocket without screaming would be nice

Oct 23, 2012
Sara NEW
by: JACK

Sara,

I have 4 anchors from the top of my larum to the bottom front. The doctor called it a slap/ bankart tear and he showed me on the xray he removed bone spurs at the ac joint kind of looks wider. I am 3 weeks post op today I feel very good- If i had to do it again I would. I am so doped up on pain meds its probably covering up the real deal pain but it also makes me feel happy and getting me through this nice and smoothly LOL.

JACK THE WHACK!

Oct 23, 2012
For Jack the whack NEW
by: Sara

Jack, at least you make me feel better that you are
doped up on pain meds when I never was. Only to go to PT and before bed. I told my PT about you and she said had I had gone on vacation week 3 post op I would have been at full range then. That made such a difference. But I caught up. I am doing well now and got even more tension band exercises today. What I am finding is that each doctor has their own protocol and I was not to use my arm at all for 12 weeks. I am 14 now and they still say no weights. Just tension bands. I cheat though and carry things like a 16 oz glass. Nothing more than a pound or two. I call it my own PT! What they don't know can't hurt. And besides, they like my progress. I see the doc on Monday. He is a tough one. I know he will say reaching up my back is too tight yet. That still hurts but I stretch and hold it daily hoping to get full there soon. I have it in the other ways.
To all, hang in there. Turning the corner was a great feeling!

Oct 23, 2012
You NEW
by: Anonymous

Jack,
You are just to darn funny. Sounds like you are doing pretty
Well. I love your comment JACK THE WHACK.
Reggie

Oct 24, 2012
6 weeks today NEW
by: neil harris (ENGLAND)

had accupuncture today the physio said do they hurt(THE NEEDLES) and i didnt even know they were in cos the whole shoulder hurts all the time -told me to ditch the sling because they think its causing frozen shoulder-a i asked if by doing all my pt and it hurts do i carry on or will it damage it further or make it worse -he said no- do the exercises in agony-im sort of losing my confidence with my physiotherapists.so fed up .com

Oct 24, 2012
Neil NEW
by: JACK

Neil,

I ditched the sling after 2 weeks and between 1 and 2 weeks i was barely wearing it. I know as a personal trainer that movement is extremely important to prevent frozen shoulder. Keep moving it as much as possible heat before than ice after it.But remember its the oposite of no pain no gain. You should be able to break it up. Good luck bro.

Jack A Lantern

Oct 24, 2012
jack NEW
by: neil harris (ENGLAND)

jack me and you had different shoulder probs mate -you had slap -backart tear -glad its going so well -i realise about the no pain no gain cos ive lifted weights and played sport at a reasonable level since 15 -im 47 now -so i love exercise and am missing it-so much but i cant move it at all.i had a labrum tear -my shoulder joint had come out of its plate (DISLOCATED)and tear on rotator cuff and a tear on the superspinator froM 2 oclock to 6 oclock whatever that means ? but i will persevere but i am losing confidence

Oct 24, 2012
neil NEW
by: JACK

Awww buddy keep your chin up. Hope all works out foryou

Oct 24, 2012
neil NEW
by: JACK

Awww buddy keep your chin up. Hope all works out foryou

Oct 25, 2012
For Neil NEW
by: Sara

Neil, Sorry to hear about your frozen shoulder. I hear that is so painful but that you can get over it. It takes a lot of time. I hope you can recover from it faster than normal.

Oct 25, 2012
Frozen Shoulder NEW
by: Jana

Hi Neil~
My shoulder froze before I had surgery because of keeping it in a sling. I couldn't help it though because the pain was too intense with the gravitational pull on my shoulder. Yes, frozen shoulder is VERY VERY painful. But heck, it is all painful! I had my labrum repaired, but the surgeoun left my bicep detached so that I could start PT the day after surgery. Yes the very next day. It's been a long road, but after 7 months it feels alot better and I'm so glad I had the surgery.

Blessings~
Jana

Oct 31, 2012
7 weeks today since surgery NEW
by: neil harris (ENGLAND)

im out of sling now and doing heating doing exercises 3 times a day then icing after -still in incredible pain but rom getting slightly better-because ive developed frozen shoulder i was doing the finger walking up the wall and i heard such a clunk in rear shoulder im just hoping its not making the condition worse -right time to do my pt grrrrrrrrrrrrrr so painful

Oct 31, 2012
For Neil NEW
by: Sara

The crunching could be the breaking up of scar tissue. That happened to me and it hurt a lot a couple days after. PT said scar tissue and typical. I view it as a good thing. ROM will improve faster with the scar tissue gone. Glad to hear improvement is happening.
I had a 14 week post op follow up and all is looking good. Tension bands are helping with the strengthening and I feel good. I am so happy not having continuous pain.

Oct 31, 2012
sara NEW
by: neil harris (ENGLAND)

thanks sara -that sounds fantastic -so it does gradually settle down then

Oct 31, 2012
sara NEW
by: neil harris (ENGLAND)

thanks sara -that sounds fantastic -so it does gradually settle down then

Nov 02, 2012
11 months post SLAP repair, great recovery, some small glitches NEW
by: Mark in DC

First off, Jack, sounds like you are doing the right thing by keeping in contact with your doctor. It will be all right. Just (this sounds horrible, but it is true) give it time.

I have been doing wonderfully these past six months. However, i pushed it too much this week after Sandy deposited _lots_ of water on a rug in the finished basement. I lifted it, have felt some strain but no pain whatsoever in the past two days. Just kind of clicking but not bad. The doctor says if it clicks okay, that's okay. But if it clicks and there is pain, look out.

Still, after surgery in 2008 on the other shoulder, and this recent one a year ago, i am always a bit nervous. have been taking 2 aleve 2x a day, and putting heat on it. Just gotta be patient.

Anyone with similar experience, Please give a response. Best wishes to all, Mark in DC.

Nov 02, 2012
finger walking up wall NEW
by: neil harris (ENGLAND)

just done my home physiotherapy or pt to the americans lateral raises with stick,pendlum anti -clock and clock wise and a couple oF other movements that all cause me pain 7 weeks after surgery and the worse 1 for me the easy task of finger walking or sliding a flat hand up wall as high as possible the pain in my rear shoulder is so intense i cant imagine anything worse it makes me squeal my eyes water with the pain -im now sitting here took my pain killers and got ice on me -did anybody else have this level of pain after 7 weeks or was it just hurting a bit -cos im worried for sure this aint normal????????????

Nov 02, 2012
New NEW
by: Jana

Neil~
Yes it is common to still have severe pain after 7 weeks. It was atleast 12 weeks before I had any pain relief. I never did PT without taking pain meds first. I know that you are doing it the right way...but I just couldn't handle the pain without it. Stay in contact with your doctor and communicate your pain level to your physical therapist too.
I go back to the doctor this Monday to have my other shoulder evaluated for surgery. It's hard to think about starting all over on another shoulder when I'm only 7 months out from my first shoulder surgery. But atleast I'll be moving forward instead of barely hanging in there.

Hang Tough Everyone,
Jana

Nov 02, 2012
I feel your pain Neil NEW
by: Kristina

Hi Neil,

I am 5.5 weeks post op and having more sharp pain now (in the muscles) than I was the first four weeks. Starting back at work this week and advancing PT has given my shoulder a wake-up call it has not been use to in awhile. I'm ahead of schedule with my range of motion but I have had a fair amount of muscle atrophy and they are tight, particularly in my bicep and pectoral area, and at night I just want to rip those muscles out to stop aching. My tear was from the front to the bottom of the labrum, so I get a double source of pain from weak muscles and my shoulder wanting to lean forward, putting strain on my bicep and pec to hold my shoulder up.

I certainly feel your pain but also agree to keep your doctor in the loop. I talked to my doctor earlier this week to make sure my pain in the muscles was nothing to be concerned about and they said that's common as your shoulder starts to become more active. My hand was also turning red/whitish when I did pendulum swings or just kept my arm at my side while at home and after examination my doctor said the blood supply has changed with my arm in the immobilizer and when I let it hang the blood rushes back into the hand, causing discoloration and some tingling. Once I bend my elbow and elevate my hand again the color goes back to normal.

Certainly hang in there.

Jana, I hope your appointment goes well on Monday. Let us know what the doctor says.

Have a good day everyone.
Kristina

Nov 02, 2012
I feel your pain Neil NEW
by: Kristina

Hi Neil,

I am 5.5 weeks post op and having more sharp pain now (in the muscles) than I was the first four weeks. Starting back at work this week and advancing PT has given my shoulder a wake-up call it has not been use to in awhile. I'm ahead of schedule with my range of motion but I have had a fair amount of muscle atrophy and they are tight, particularly in my bicep and pectoral area, and at night I just want to rip those muscles out to stop aching. My tear was from the front to the bottom of the labrum, so I get a double source of pain from weak muscles and my shoulder wanting to lean forward, putting strain on my bicep and pec to hold my shoulder up.

I certainly feel your pain but also agree to keep your doctor in the loop. I talked to my doctor earlier this week to make sure my pain in the muscles was nothing to be concerned about and they said that's common as your shoulder starts to become more active. My hand was also turning red/whitish when I did pendulum swings or just kept my arm at my side while at home and after examination my doctor said the blood supply has changed with my arm in the immobilizer and when I let it hang the blood rushes back into the hand, causing discoloration and some tingling. Once I bend my elbow and elevate my hand again the color goes back to normal.

Certainly hang in there.

Jana, I hope your appointment goes well on Monday. Let us know what the doctor says.

Have a good day everyone.
Kristina

Nov 02, 2012
thanks kristana and jana NEW
by: neil harris (ENGLAND)

people on here keeping me sane cos unless you been through this -you wouldnt realise how bad this is -ladies have you got children -this must be nearly as bad as child birth surely x

Nov 02, 2012
:) NEW
by: Kristina

Neil, your comment cracks me up, but I'm 27 and have yet to experience child birth. I can imagine though it might be a toss-up for which is worse.

I too am glad this site is out there for others to share their experiences and appreciate everyone's input!

Nov 02, 2012
Update post op NEW
by: JACK

Hi guys just got my power back after 5 days no power from huricane sandy its insane on long island...

I began PT like 12 days post op and im progressing quickly.
I am excatly 4 weeks post op today 11/2 the doctor visit yesterday was good he gave me a script to proceed with strength training, stetching and going further range of motion forward elevation 120 to 150 degrees i just can't do any external rotation for now. The pain meds im on are great i really don't feel pain only when i'm off the percoset is when i really feel the stiffness and aching pain. My doctor is outstanding he takes the time to listen and was very fast and with great results during the sergury.
I do have to say ive been eating way to much garbage and its catching up to me i will begin the gym next week. I just wanted to give you guys a quick follow up on my condition and progress.
Hope your all doing well!

Jack Bauer

Nov 02, 2012
Hey NEW
by: Sara

My pain was still,bad up to 10 weeks. After that I didn't take pain killers before PT. once you get full ROM, pain decreases. Like you and others, i couldn't do PT without it. it was nauseating from pain. There is different pain once you start strengthening, but nothing like before. You asked if this was worse than giving labor- YES! I gave birth without pain meds twice and this hurt more. But once 10-11 weeks came it was so much better.
I will now take good care of my shoulders and keep my rotator cuff strong as I would not want to go through a labral tear surgery again!

Nov 06, 2012
8 weeks after surgery NEW
by: neil harris (ENGLAND)

still agony and still doing all my home physio -still feels like it aint worked -so low now -please pretty please get better soon and jana ive told everybody that think im a baby that you said worse than child birth-i remember breaking my fib and tib plying rugby dislocating ankle at same time and leaving hospital with plates and screws in my lower leg id rather have 5 of them compared to this op

Nov 06, 2012
Getting there... NEW
by: JACK

Heading back to work in 3 weeks, I'm on Phase 2 started strength training im back in the game...
I'm 4 1/2 weeks post op. I still need the pain medication that pretty much blocks all pain that I should be having I do feel pain if I don't take the meds. I'm at 145 degress fwd elevation max is 150 so i'm just about there and ahead of most people at this point. If I had to g et it done again I would.

jAcK ThE WhAcK!

Nov 08, 2012
bleeden hot water bottle NEW
by: neil harris (ENGLAND)


fair play to you jack but you obviously didnt have a major tear in the shoulder cos unless mine still dislocated it should be on the mend by now-im 8 weeks since surgery and still in agony -yesterday i was cooking a spagetti bolgnaise and id got oil in pan ready to fry onions and mince approached the sizzling pan went to pick pan up and as i did so my hot water bottle was on rear shoulder cos i was gonna do some physio and it slid down my back as i picked up pan it caused me to drop pan and red hot oil all over my leg-its all blistered and weeping today-and looks like im gonna be left with a big scold for rest of life-moral of story is -that was nothing compared to the pain im suffering after this op -right more physio and agony now- bye

Nov 08, 2012
TEAR NEW
by: JACK

I had a bankart tear and a slap tear which was a complete tear from front to rear and bone spurs removed around ac joint

Nov 13, 2012
9 weeks sice labrum tear and rc tear NEW
by: neil harris (ENGLAND)

9 weeks tomorrow -r o m better -its still aching all over deltoid area -still taking lots of pain killers to sleep at night and been having accupuncture to help with pain-its definately improved slightly in last week -im doing pt everyday 3 times a day -hot water bottle -20 mins stretches and rom exercises -then icing-incredibly painful but maybe a little flicker of light at end of tunnel-any news from jana and kristina and the others that have had it tough during rehab -please -your tips and progress help keep me sane?

Nov 13, 2012
Follow up NEW
by: JACK

I am 6 weeks post op today. I had PT yesterday and it was very painful. Lying on back he stretched me to about 160 degrees fwd elevation that's puttig arm past my ear backwards that was extreme. I am still taking a ton of percoset more than what they say to take. I take 3 upon waking up in the morning 5/325 percs and a minimum 10 per day. They do work well but i am affraid of the addiction. I might switch to Nucynta 50mg which is just as good but less addicting

Nov 13, 2012
To Jack NEW
by: Leslie

Hi Jack-

I remember crying during my PT when they put my arm up over my head. Dont worry, the pain is normal--not that that makes it more tolerable. I used to call it "torture therapy" instead of Physical Therapy... Seemed much more appropriate!

10 percocets a day concerns me for a couple of reasons-- first, as you said, the addiction potential-- it is a very addictive drug--and at 10 per day, that is definitely hitting the amounts that could make you, not addicted, maybe, but dependent. there IS a difference.

My second concern is that if you are taking them much more than the directions on the bottle, you will run out before it is time for your next refill. I would HATE for the doctor to turn you down or make you wait for a refill (thinking you should still have some left) and for you to go without any meds. THAT would be torturous, for sure. Im not sure where you are, but prescription addiction has become BIG NEWS around here, and doctors have become so paranoid about drug seekers that some are not adequately treating the pain for the legitimate patients. It is crazy.

I know all doctors are different, but mine was really, really good about weaning me down just a little at a time, and only if I could take it. I was off all medication at 6 months post surgery-- and felt like I still needed them, but felt bad for asking, I dont know why. My doc did say that he had some patients on painkillers for much longer than me, as everyone heals up differently-- I guess what Im saying is to make sure that your doc weans you down and doesnt just cut you off. You could face a ton of pain, and it is possible you could face withdrawal symptoms. That doesnt mean you are an addict... just means your body is used to having the drug and has to adjust. (the difference between addiction and dependence...) You really need to be weaned down SLOWLY. Just a suggestion from someone who knows!!! Good luck!!

Nov 13, 2012
To Jack NEW
by: Leslie

Hi Jack-

I remember crying during my PT when they put my arm up over my head. Dont worry, the pain is normal--not that that makes it more tolerable. I used to call it "torture therapy" instead of Physical Therapy... Seemed much more appropriate!

10 percocets a day concerns me for a couple of reasons-- first, as you said, the addiction potential-- it is a very addictive drug--and at 10 per day, that is definitely hitting the amounts that could make you, not addicted, maybe, but dependent. there IS a difference.

My second concern is that if you are taking them much more than the directions on the bottle, you will run out before it is time for your next refill. I would HATE for the doctor to turn you down or make you wait for a refill (thinking you should still have some left) and for you to go without any meds. THAT would be torturous, for sure. Im not sure where you are, but prescription addiction has become BIG NEWS around here, and doctors have become so paranoid about drug seekers that some are not adequately treating the pain for the legitimate patients. It is crazy.

I know all doctors are different, but mine was really, really good about weaning me down just a little at a time, and only if I could take it. I was off all medication at 6 months post surgery-- and felt like I still needed them, but felt bad for asking, I dont know why. My doc did say that he had some patients on painkillers for much longer than me, as everyone heals up differently-- I guess what Im saying is to make sure that your doc weans you down and doesnt just cut you off. You could face a ton of pain, and it is possible you could face withdrawal symptoms. That doesnt mean you are an addict... just means your body is used to having the drug and has to adjust. (the difference between addiction and dependence...) You really need to be weaned down SLOWLY. Just a suggestion from someone who knows!!! Good luck!!

Nov 13, 2012
Leslie NEW
by: Jack

Thank you for the information Leslie, I will becareful and I do always make sure I have enough to refill my next script im a timely manner Ie been taking this stuff for a few weeks now and will continue for a bit longer as needed, he gave me a few nucynta the other day and it works a little better than the percs

Nov 13, 2012
Another week NEW
by: Kristina

Hi Everyone,

It's good to hear from you guys. I hope everyone's pain starts to subside. Jana and Sara were right in that the pain seems to shift from place to place. I'm almost 7 weeks post op and I'm doing pretty well. I have been working on a lot of scapular retractions and strengthening my scapula as it's very weak and that has caused me to develop knots in my shoulder. I'm not sure if the muscle knots or the pain from my shoulder is worse. Similar to Jack, I had a bankart and SLAP tear repair (no bicep reattachment). I have been having some pain in my armpit, but it's tolerable. I haven't taken pain meds since the first week, but I take Advil twice a day, and ice a lot. Fortunately with my flexible shoulders my ROM is ahead of schedule. I'm at 175 degrees (180 with a little pain) degrees forward elevation, and about 55 degrees external rotation (but it hurts). I'm not allowed to put my hand behind my back yet. Sleeping is still a pain and my back hurts when I wake up from laying on it all night, but I finally moved back to sleeping in a bed this past weekend. All in all, for me it's not too bad, better than I expected and I saw a big change from last week to this week in the mobility of my arm. I'm back to comfortably using two hands to type, use my left arm (the injured side) to hold things that are about 1-3 lbs and help aid in day to day activities such as getting ready in the morning.

I hope everyone continues to see some improvement and the light at the end of the tunnel. Jana, when you get a chance, let us know how you're doing and what the doctor said last week about your other shoulder.

Jack, I hope hurricane Sandy didn't do too much damage to your place. I hope everything is back to normal for you.

Take care everyone.
Kristina

Nov 13, 2012
Another week NEW
by: Kristina

Hi Everyone,

It's good to hear from you guys. I hope everyone's pain starts to subside. Jana and Sara were right in that the pain seems to shift from place to place. I'm almost 7 weeks post op and I'm doing pretty well. I have been working on a lot of scapular retractions and strengthening my scapula as it's very weak and that has caused me to develop knots in my shoulder. I'm not sure if the muscle knots or the pain from my shoulder is worse. Similar to Jack, I had a bankart and SLAP tear repair (no bicep reattachment). I have been having some pain in my armpit, but it's tolerable. I haven't taken pain meds since the first week, but I take Advil twice a day, and ice a lot. Fortunately with my flexible shoulders my ROM is ahead of schedule. I'm at 175 degrees (180 with a little pain) degrees forward elevation, and about 55 degrees external rotation (but it hurts). I'm not allowed to put my hand behind my back yet. Sleeping is still a pain and my back hurts when I wake up from laying on it all night, but I finally moved back to sleeping in a bed this past weekend. All in all, for me it's not too bad, better than I expected and I saw a big change from last week to this week in the mobility of my arm. I'm back to comfortably using two hands to type, use my left arm (the injured side) to hold things that are about 1-3 lbs and help aid in day to day activities such as getting ready in the morning.

I hope everyone continues to see some improvement and the light at the end of the tunnel. Jana, when you get a chance, let us know how you're doing and what the doctor said last week about your other shoulder.

Jack, I hope hurricane Sandy didn't do too much damage to your place. I hope everything is back to normal for you.

Take care everyone.
Kristina

Nov 13, 2012
Another week NEW
by: Kristina

Hi Everyone,

It's good to hear from you guys. I hope everyone's pain starts to subside. Jana and Sara were right in that the pain seems to shift from place to place. I'm almost 7 weeks post op and I'm doing pretty well. I have been working on a lot of scapular retractions and strengthening my scapula as it's very weak and that has caused me to develop knots in my shoulder. I'm not sure if the muscle knots or the pain from my shoulder is worse. Similar to Jack, I had a bankart and SLAP tear repair (no bicep reattachment). I have been having some pain in my armpit, but it's tolerable. I haven't taken pain meds since the first week, but I take Advil twice a day, and ice a lot. Fortunately with my flexible shoulders my ROM is ahead of schedule. I'm at 175 degrees (180 with a little pain) degrees forward elevation, and about 55 degrees external rotation (but it hurts). I'm not allowed to put my hand behind my back yet. Sleeping is still a pain and my back hurts when I wake up from laying on it all night, but I finally moved back to sleeping in a bed this past weekend. All in all, for me it's not too bad, better than I expected and I saw a big change from last week to this week in the mobility of my arm. I'm back to comfortably using two hands to type, use my left arm (the injured side) to hold things that are about 1-3 lbs and help aid in day to day activities such as getting ready in the morning.

I hope everyone continues to see some improvement and the light at the end of the tunnel. Jana, when you get a chance, let us know how you're doing and what the doctor said last week about your other shoulder.

Jack, I hope hurricane Sandy didn't do too much damage to your place. I hope everything is back to normal for you.

Take care everyone.
Kristina

Nov 13, 2012
Another week NEW
by: Kristina

Hi Everyone,

It's good to hear from you guys. I hope everyone's pain starts to subside. Jana and Sara were right in that the pain seems to shift from place to place. I'm almost 7 weeks post op and I'm doing pretty well. I have been working on a lot of scapular retractions and strengthening my scapula as it's very weak and that has caused me to develop knots in my shoulder. I'm not sure if the muscle knots or the pain from my shoulder is worse. Similar to Jack, I had a bankart and SLAP tear repair (no bicep reattachment). I have been having some pain in my armpit, but it's tolerable. I haven't taken pain meds since the first week, but I take Advil twice a day, and ice a lot. Fortunately with my flexible shoulders my ROM is ahead of schedule. I'm at 175 degrees (180 with a little pain) degrees forward elevation, and about 55 degrees external rotation (but it hurts). I'm not allowed to put my hand behind my back yet. Sleeping is still a pain and my back hurts when I wake up from laying on it all night, but I finally moved back to sleeping in a bed this past weekend. All in all, for me it's not too bad, better than I expected and I saw a big change from last week to this week in the mobility of my arm. I'm back to comfortably using two hands to type, use my left arm (the injured side) to hold things that are about 1-3 lbs and help aid in day to day activities such as getting ready in the morning.

I hope everyone continues to see some improvement and the light at the end of the tunnel. Jana, when you get a chance, let us know how you're doing and what the doctor said last week about your other shoulder.

Jack, I hope hurricane Sandy didn't do too much damage to your place. I hope everything is back to normal for you.

Take care everyone.
Kristina

Nov 13, 2012
Kristina NEW
by: JACK

Hi Kristina,

Wow you sound similar to my surgery slap/bankart tear and bone spurs removed. I'm 6 weeks out and about 150 fwd elevation and 30 external rotation doing strength training tricep push downs, scapular excersizes and stretches/ROM movements. I feel like every week i'm making progress. Sleeping at night is horrible!!! I am dying to sleep on my left shoulder (bad side)my neck and other shoulder is starting to hurt from sleeping - I cant really sleep on my back Im a side sleeper. I see the doctor thursday morning he will probably increase my PT strength excersizes. I live 5 minutes from the beach in the hamptons on Long Island and my property didnt have any damage just lost electric for 5 days which made me even more crazier being home from work and borded already. Most of my friends had no power for over 2 weeks and still don't have power or there homes were completely destroyed so I am one of the lucky ones. The gas situation is bad too most stations are still wothout fuel and you have to gas up on even and or odd days to match your plate.

JaCk dA wHaCk

Nov 13, 2012
Kristina NEW
by: JACK

Hi Kristina,

Wow you sound similar to my surgery slap/bankart tear and bone spurs removed. I'm 6 weeks out and about 150 fwd elevation and 30 external rotation doing strength training tricep push downs, scapular excersizes and stretches/ROM movements. I feel like every week i'm making progress. Sleeping at night is horrible!!! I am dying to sleep on my left shoulder (bad side)my neck and other shoulder is starting to hurt from sleeping - I cant really sleep on my back Im a side sleeper. I see the doctor thursday morning he will probably increase my PT strength excersizes. I live 5 minutes from the beach in the hamptons on Long Island and my property didnt have any damage just lost electric for 5 days which made me even more crazier being home from work and borded already. Most of my friends had no power for over 2 weeks and still don't have power or there homes were completely destroyed so I am one of the lucky ones. The gas situation is bad too most stations are still wothout fuel and you have to gas up on even and or odd days to match your plate.
PS
Sorry if this is a double post my computer just froze and didnt know if it went through..

JaCk dA wHaCk

Nov 15, 2012
I'm Back NEW
by: Jana

Greetings to Everyone~
It sounds as though everyone is still hanging in there....that is about all we do these days isn't it?
Here is the latest on me + a little background history for anyone new that is reading.
I had surgery on my left shoulder for labrum tear and bicep detachment + frozen shoulder April 3, 2012. Now at 7 1/2 mo my left arm is really doing good. Yes, it still aches and no I don't have full range of motion...but I can lay on that side now a little bit and I'm very happy to be past the agony of recovery on this one.
However, my right shoulder was injured at the same time and has gradually gotten worse with overuse. I've been on 80mg of Norco everday to survive the pain of the one recovering shoulder that gradually improved and the still injured shoulder that has gotten progressively worse. I am so sick of taking pain medication and am so envious of you guys who are making it through this with nothing. I do not see how in the world you are able to accomplish anything beyond suffering....my hat's off to you!
Last week I went for an MRI on my bad/right shoulder. The pain was so intense that I had a full blown panic attack during the MRI. It was a pretty horrible ordeal. So yesterday, I had an MRI using an open machine and although it was very painful on my right shoulder atleast my left shoulder wasn't in agony too. Now, I wait until my appointment Monday to find out what the doctor says. Even though my daughter is getting married December 22, I still would like to get this surgery over with so I can atleast be on the road to recovery.

Thanks For Thinking About Me:-)
Jana

Nov 18, 2012
9 and half weeks since shoulder surgery NEW
by: neil harris (ENGLAND)

i wish my surgeon would please mri scan me -i keep going through all this pain with pt and its not making any difference -it must still be dislocated -its not gonna get right after all this time surely?

Nov 18, 2012
Sorry Neil NEW
by: For Neil

Neil, I agree that you need to talk to your doctor. At this point, I had a lot of pain, but I only needed a pain pill before PT. you need to be checkd out. 9 weeks was bad, but not like you are saying. At 10 weeks I saw a lot of improvement and since then, every week was a whole lot better. I feel great at 4 mths out, but I only have used a 3lb weight. Slow start per the doctor. He has his patients go slower but his recovery rate is high.

Nov 18, 2012
MRI NEW
by: Jana

Yes Neil, please talk to your surgeon about having an MRI. They are getting bad about not offering options without you requesting them first. I requested the MRI and then when that failed, someone told me about an open MRI machine and I requested that also. Tell your surgeon that you are a tough cookie but you can't believe that this pain is normal and you think there must be something else wrong, maybe even go as far as requesting an open MRI machine. They are far more comfortable and I believe that you will get a better picture in one and thus maybe see something that they might miss otherwise.

Let me know how it goes. I have my Dr. appointment tomorrow to find out my test results.

Blessings,
Jana

Nov 18, 2012
MRI NEW
by: Jana

Yes Neil, please talk to your surgeon about having an MRI. They are getting bad about not offering options without you requesting them first. I requested the MRI and then when that failed, someone told me about an open MRI machine and I requested that also. Tell your surgeon that you are a tough cookie but you can't believe that this pain is normal and you think there must be something else wrong, maybe even go as far as requesting an open MRI machine. They are far more comfortable and I believe that you will get a better picture in one and thus maybe see something that they might miss otherwise.

Let me know how it goes. I have my Dr. appointment tomorrow to find out my test results.

Blessings,
Jana

Nov 18, 2012
MRI NEW
by: Jana

Yes Neil, please talk to your surgeon about having an MRI. They are getting bad about not offering options without you requesting them first. I requested the MRI and then when that failed, someone told me about an open MRI machine and I requested that also. Tell your surgeon that you are a tough cookie but you can't believe that this pain is normal and you think there must be something else wrong, maybe even go as far as requesting an open MRI machine. They are far more comfortable and I believe that you will get a better picture in one and thus maybe see something that they might miss otherwise.

Let me know how it goes. I have my Dr. appointment tomorrow to find out my test results.

Blessings,
Jana

Nov 20, 2012
thanks fellow suffers NEW
by: neil harris (ENGLAND)

managed to push my appointment forward 2 weeks with surgeon which is good told his secretary bout all my pain and they got me in earlier so i will ask for another scan-accupuncture tomorrow lol zzzzzzzz not working at all after 4 sessions.

Nov 21, 2012
Check in NEW
by: Sara

Neil, let us know what the doc says. Jana, what did you find out? Jack, you still on major pain meds? I wish you all a Happy Thanksgiving. I will be spending my morning making a pumpkin bourbon cheesecake.

Nov 21, 2012
7 week follow up NEW
by: JACK

Heading to PT in a fewy I'm 7 weeks post op they have me at 165 degrees fwd evelvation and about 50 percent external rotation anything past that is insane pain. I am making progress is just a slow process i want to go all out and get back in the gym but that will screw me up in time im guessing april ill be back to weight training. I go back to work in like 10 days thats should make me feel even better.

Nov 21, 2012
Back Under The Knife NEW
by: Jana

Hi Pain Gang~
Went to my surgeon and got the results of the MRI on my right shoulder, he said,"you basically have the same injuries on your right shoulder as you had on the left." Which is a labrum tear, bicep detachment and frozen shoulder. He scheduled me surgery December 27th. Merry Christmas to me!!I can't believe I've been dealing with this for over a year now! My daughter is getting married December 22nd so I didn't want to be totally disabled since I'm right handed. So 4 more weeks of pain, then another surgery, and then 4 months of agony. Maybe this will all be over around summer of 2013, I'm ready to get on with life.

Have A Happy Thanksgiving,
Jana

Nov 22, 2012
Jana NEW
by: Jack

OH MY GOODNESS your kidding me, that is totally insane I will pray for you, I am worried I might have something going on in my right shoulder as well.
I had PT yesterday and it was basically hell the worst pain ever they had me doing like 10 more different excersizes and pushed the ROM I woke up at 3am in agony had to take pain meds right away and just took a few again at 8am what a horrible way to spend thanksgiving and my birthday. Well I wish for you and your family a Happy Thanksgiving!

Jack the whak is back

Nov 22, 2012
Hi NEW
by: Sara

Jana, so sorry to hear about your other shoulder. How did that happen in both? Hang in there as you have a tough road in front of you. My prayers are with you.
Jack, happy birthday. It is mine, too! Sounds like you had a rough day. I hope you are like me and by 11 weeks I was a new person without hardly any pain. Prayers to you, too.

Nov 22, 2012
jana ,sara,jack NEW
by: neil harris (ENGLAND)

terible news jana to have to go through same op on other side really sad for you -hope it goes well for you -sara your 11 weeks and doing good-great news thats give me bit of light at end of tunnel -im bit like jack dreaming of being in gym but cant see it till march ,my progress really slow although range of movement little better -im just over 10 weeks since op and actually woke up this morning and thought its improving for first time -i then probably pushed my physio too hard cos aching now -so gonna listen to pain and rest till tomorrow-good luck people and we dont do thanks giving in uk but hope you all have fab time xx

Nov 22, 2012
Shoulders NEW
by: Jana

Thank you for your comments and especially your prayers. 2 shoulder surgeries and 2 funerals in 1 year is enough for any one person.
And Happy Birthday you guys!! Today is my sister's birthday also....seems to be a very popular day :-)
How did I do this to myself?? That is a very good question. My 2nd shoulder injury started out as a little tweek. I'm embarrassed to say that it happened as I was demonstrating to the doctor, the action of how I hurt my left shoulder. Maybe I have a defect in them that made them easy to tear?? I was a gymnast when I was school, so I don't know if this produced so much wear that now I'm paying the price at 50 yrs old?? Anyway, the more I used my shoulder compensating for the one that I had surgery on in April, the worse it got.
Then a couple of other things happened that damaged it further... first my miniature dachsund jumped down off the back of the sofa onto my shoulder, that further tore the muscle. There was a visible lump that was excruciating!
The second thing that happened was with one of my kids big college football buddies. Now picture this.....I'm sitting in my recliner with an ice bag on both shoulders watching T.V. Pierre, a 400 pd linebacker, comes up from behind my chair and to my side to shake my hand, thanking me for dinner before he left. I hold my hand out thinking that he'll just give me a light shake from behind....WRONG!! He grabs my hand and pumps it down and backward a couple of times!! OMG!! I literally covered my face in my blanket and cried. He never even knew what he did.
But as you guys know both my parents died in the middle of all of this AND my daughter has been planning on getting married this December 22, so there hasn't been any other time that I could have surgery. I was so relieved when my surgeon said he was working the week of Christmas and would get me in before the new year. My insurance deductibles have already been met so that is a good thing.
So my daughter is getting married on Saturday, Christmas is on Tuesday and surgery is on Thursday! I'll be glad to put 2012 in the history book.

Happy Thanksgiving,(Thanksgiving is for everyone, no matter where you live:-)
Jana

Nov 23, 2012
I wish there was a Black Friday sale for new shoulders! NEW
by: Kristina

Hi Everyone,

I hope everyone enjoyed the Holiday. Jack and Sara happy belated Birthday! It's a popular week for Birthdays. I know five people who have their birthday on November 20th. I hope you two enjoyed it and didn't have too much pain to ruin the day.

Jana, I'm sorry to hear the news on your shoulder. That's not good, but at least you'll be able to get it fixed soon and can close this year out without having to plan surgery early next year. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family as you prepare for your daughters wedding.

Jack, like you, with some added PT exercises, my shoulder has been in quit a bit of pain. I still haven't taken any pain meds after PT other than some ibuprofen and a few drinks here and there in th evening! I had my two month check-up earlier this week and the doc said I'm pushing my shoulder too much; it's too early to be moving it around as much as I am, and trying to put more than a few pounds on the shoulder. I had significant pain in my bicep and told my doc that I had a bad experience going through O'hare Airport in Chicago (where I'm currently living), flying back home (MN) for Thanksgiving. I couldn't go through the regular body scanner as I couldn't put my arm all the way up in the air so I held up the line going through another scanner and in an effort to move things a long, I accidentially grabbed one of my bags weighing a good 30-40 lbs with my my left arm (bad arm/shoulder). I dropped it within 5 seconds as I caught what I was doing and just told the people behind me I'm sorry while I gathered my things with my right arm. Within a couple minutes I had shooting pain in my bicep. My doc said although 30-40 pounds was not heavy for me pre surgery (as I was doing a lot of olympic lifting), but for the last 2 months I haven't put more than at most 5 lbs on that shoulder. 30-40 pounds was a shock for my muscle. Luckily my action didn't seem to disrupt my shoulder, which is good, but it certainly hurt in my bicep for a good day. My arm/shoulder feels better now, but I'm defintely trying to take a step back and take it easy; listening to my arm and not pushing it more than I should be. I told my doc she had the easy job of doing the surgery and that I have the hard job - dealing with the long recovery and being patient, which isn't always easy!

Hang in there everyone. Given it's Thanksgiving, I do have to say I'm thankful for this site. Hearing from all of you have been a blessing and I hope we all find relief from our pain soon.

Take care everyone,
Kristina

PS - sorry if this posts more than once, it doesn't always go through for me on the first try.

Nov 23, 2012
Doc protocol NEW
by: Sara

My doc said no use of the arm for 12 weeks other than PT. strict orders on that. I only cheated at week 8 and forward drying my hair. Still at 17 weeks out, only 2-3 lbs. I think this is why I am not in as much pain at this point. After tension band work and 2-3 lb weights in the arm lifts, it is tender but I don't even take Advil for it. It does get sore going through airports with my computer bag but I check my luggage so I don't have to rely on others to get it down for me, I know all docs have different protocol but so far I am happy with mine. I wasn't prior to 11 weeks but like I said earlier, after that things got good.

Nov 24, 2012
You're right Sara NEW
by: Kristina

Hey Sara,

I appreciate the comment. You're right, similar to your doc, my doc has a very conservative protocol and told me to slow it down; I don't need to put myself at risk of causing damange to the anchors by trying to be a hero with recovery. Given my ROM is 100% in some plains and nearly that in others and my strength came back sooner than expected, my PT started having me use 2-3 lb weights at 7 weeks, working up to 10 lbs at 12-14 weeks. I think having my PT give me an inch with a couple pounds, I took a foot in trying to use a few more pounds on a regular basis, outside of my PT exercises. I have to keep reminding myself that although I could easily lift 200 plus pounds prior to surgery that I can't consider 5 lbs to be a joke. I keep trying to push myself further in an effort to get back to doing more than just biking, and I need to back off before I cause more damange. In the last few days I have been carrying my squeeze ball with me every where I go and if I find myself in a situation where I may be tempted to pick something up, I put the squeeze ball in my hand. It has helped a lot. Since the airport incident, my bicep pain has gone away and the only pain I have is around the incision site which my doc said is normal. I'm very pleased with my doctor, she's one of the best shoulder surgeons at the Mayo Clinic. She put all of the stitches and sutures under the skin, and I'm feeling them break-up right now causing the skin to be a little tender and sore underneath. Overall, I'm pleased with her work, and I think having told you guys that I'm pushing it more than I should, will help me keep honest with myself and take a few steps back. Sara, I may follow what you're doing when I fly back to Chicago today, take my computer back with me on the plane and check in my luggage. It's worth the extra few dollars.

Again, thank you everyone for your insight on here, it's helpful and much appreciated it!

Have a good weekend everyone,
Kristina

Nov 24, 2012
Slow process NEW
by: JACK

I am dying to get back to weight lifting at the gym and feel i can do certain things. At Physical therapy i am 7 weeks post op doing 110lbs tricep push downs, among other band and scapular exercises- I'm sure i can do cardio and legs at the gym but knowing me if i do go I will try other things thinking im fine and reinsured my labrum. At times I am in alot of pain and some simple movements of my bad arm sends sharp shooting deep dull pain through shoulder to my hand other times I can do the unthinkable like i never had surgery. I still can't sleep well but it is what it is and sorta got use to it. I am still taking percoset, it doesnt make me dizzy anymore but takes most of the pain away. I have noticed if I don't take percoset my entire body is on fire with pain like I have the flu it feels like my organs ache and every joint hurts- I guess thats the part where this drug is bad where your body depends on it, it's kind of scarey...

Jack will be back!!!

Nov 25, 2012
"SLAP" Surgery Sucks!!! NEW
by: stomp42

Its been close to two years that I finally received treatment for my left shoulder. In the beginning, I was told by several doctors that I had multiple conditions from arthritis to thoracic outlet syndrome; but no definite answer. Knowing my body better than anymore else, I continued my search to find a doctor who could help me find a solution. I suffered with "dead arm" symptoms in my left arm, constant pain, numbness, lack of strength and stability, and popping/clicking sounds from my shoulder, severe neck pain, and headaches on a daily basis and I continued my employment as a police officer. Through trial and error (and lots of time and money down the drain), it was determined I needed to have an acromioplasty and distal clavicle resection perform asap. But during surgery, my doctor found nothing wrong until he kept looking and found a severe torn "slap" ligament. My family had no idea what a "slap" tear was and it was so long since I heard about it I completely went blank. I felt vindicated by the fact that there was something wrong because I went for years having doctors ignoring me and basically say my symptoms were all in my head. Now that the surgery is over, I'm fighting a long battle of getting back to normal. It was told to me that if the surgery didn't work, I needed to find another job that required a desk position. I feel lost and unsure of the future. Its going to take a lot of hard work and pray to get it all back to the way it use to be....I'm not young anymore, so I'm hoping it all works out. The recovery time is long and I'm feel as though I need something to do yet, if I'm unable to protect and serve, what else is there to do? Reading these other stories really did help me to see that I'm not alone. I wish everyone well in their recovery and God Bless to you and your families.

Nov 25, 2012
"SLAP" Surgery Sucks!!! NEW
by: stomp42

Its been close to two years that I finally received treatment for my left shoulder. In the beginning, I was told by several doctors that I had multiple conditions from arthritis to thoracic outlet syndrome; but no definite answer. Knowing my body better than anymore else, I continued my search to find a doctor who could help me find a solution. I suffered with "dead arm" symptoms in my left arm, constant pain, numbness, lack of strength and stability, and popping/clicking sounds from my shoulder, severe neck pain, and headaches on a daily basis and I continued my employment as a police officer. Through trial and error (and lots of time and money down the drain), it was determined I needed to have an acromioplasty and distal clavicle resection perform asap. But during surgery, my doctor found nothing wrong until he kept looking and found a severe torn "slap" ligament. My family had no idea what a "slap" tear was and it was so long since I heard about it I completely went blank. I felt vindicated by the fact that there was something wrong because I went for years having doctors ignoring me and basically say my symptoms were all in my head. Now that the surgery is over, I'm fighting a long battle of getting back to normal. It was told to me that if the surgery didn't work, I needed to find another job that required a desk position. I feel lost and unsure of the future. Its going to take a lot of hard work and pray to get it all back to the way it use to be....I'm not young anymore, so I'm hoping it all works out. The recovery time is long and I'm feel as though I need something to do yet, if I'm unable to protect and serve, what else is there to do? Reading these other stories really did help me to see that I'm not alone. I wish everyone well in their recovery and God Bless to you and your families.

Nov 25, 2012
Stomp NEW
by: JACK

Stomp when did you have the slap tear surgery I had slap tear plus a bankart repaired and bone spurs removed a double whammy. I am going on 8 weeks post op PT is getting worse every day the stretching and the ROM is hell. Sleeping is aweful. I have a landscaping.contruction/snow removal business and i'll be relying on my crews and hiring a guy to help me through the winter months. It sure does hurt alot more than before the suregery. My docotr says I should be able to sleep better after 12 weeks post op. This forum sure did help me alot these guys on here are awesome.I gatthered alot of info from also youtube I basically can preform the operation from all I have learned LOL. Good luck with your revovery and happy holidays.

Nov 25, 2012
Stomp NEW
by: Jana

Hi Friend~
I'm so sorry to hear the frustration that you are feeling with your injury preventing you from the job you love. Some people say that it takes up to 2 years to fully get back to normal,
(I don't even remember what that is anymore). I'm not saying that to discourage you, but to encourage you not to give up hope. Some people take a very long time, but they do get better. I'll make sure to pray for you.
After reading your comment, I went back through the comments and read another from a nurse who was really struggling with the possibility of having to give up their occupation that they trained so long for. I wish some of these people would come back on from 2011 and give us an update on how they are doing.
I also read a comment from Jayron who said they had shoulder surgery and a labrum tear in their other shoulder. Since I has that problem as well, I really like to hear from them too.
As I'm waiting for my second shoulder surgery, (one on each shoulder) I find that sometimes a heating pad helps with the pain more and sometimes ice helps more. Last night I was able to sleep for almost 5 hours with a heat pad on my still injured shoulder. The shoulder that I had surgery on in April is doing very well and though it still aches some, it is nothing I can't handle.

Have a great week y'all :-)
Jana

Nov 25, 2012
Jana NEW
by: JACK

Hi Jana,

I am also having pain in my right shoulder as well I discussed it with my doctor and he said lets hold off on that until your left heals up. He said its common for the sport i am involved in most people have boh shoulder messed up. I have been doing very heavy bodybuilding for the past 9 years I do love the way I look I have lot of muscle in great shape but that sport pays the price sometimes. I have bench pressed from 225 to 400lbs with a regular routine I also leg press 700lbs curl 160lbs ect... I have put a tremdous amount of stress on all my joints- I am also a personal trainer so I know how to train but that doesn't mean anything, with that amount of weight I use it will hurt anyone. I love the sport and will probably get back into it in the spring. If my right shoulder is also screwed up I would hold off to get it repaired until october again.

Nov 28, 2012
Update NEW
by: Sara

Stomp, how far post op are you? I would think you can get back to your job eventually. It just takes time. I am 18 weeks out and feel great. Granted I am just starting with weights and over the shoulder type of cardio, core workouts, but my shoulder is just about pain free. I do my exercises with tension bands, light weights and my jogging and don't even need Advil. Once in awhile I feel some pain, but nothing like befor surgery. I truly feel my doctor's protocol was fantastic. ROM full by 12 weeks, no using the arm for 12 weeks, then starting with only 1 lb weights. Slow but I am good to go. I see him after Xmas and should have full clearance for all exercises by then. Planks and push ups, I will be back!

Nov 29, 2012
update new NEW
by: neil harris (ENGLAND)

thanks for the new update regarding being 18 weeks post surgery -thats cheered me up a bit.im 11 weeks since surgery and 5 weeks out of sling.my physio told me alot of the pain i was getting was from a frozen shoulder after being in sling but according to my my shoulder surgeon its not its still the pain from the healing labrum tear 2 oclock to 60clock -so the pain in the back of shoulder but i ache in my neck back of arm and in my forearms and tingling fingers.he said its nothing to worry about its gonna take along time for it to settle down -meanwhile my resistant bands have arrived but physio warned me not to use them for 4 weeks -his words wrap them up and put them under xmas tree and thats what im gonna do!!!!but on a positive note i walk 5k everyday and all pain gone when i walk -my range of movement getting better but still painful at top end and it s still 6 inches short of where the other arm will go but its improving -right ive got my hot water bottle on shoulder and in 5 minutes im gonna do some more pt -so goodbye and godbless xx

Dec 03, 2012
GOING CRAZY NEW
by: neil harris (ENGLAND)

12 weeks since op -terrible weekend think ive pushed my rehab to hard -had a couple of days off working it -give it some rest -so 3 months and its so much worse than before i had it done even my neck really hurting again-im preying these next 3months pain gonna go r-o-m gonna come back and im gonna be back in gym lifting some little weights -cant see me ever benching 308 for 10 again lol id settle for 100 lb and no pain

Dec 03, 2012
back to work NEW
by: JACK

Back to work today PT tonight I am off pain meds and um feeling strange like i was in a dream for 2 months

Dec 03, 2012
back to work NEW
by: JACK

Back to work today PT tonight I am off pain meds and um feeling strange like i was in a dream for 2 months

Dec 04, 2012
Labrum Tear & Bicep Tendonsis NEW
by: JD

Hi,
I had a labrum tear shaved and reattached, bicep tendon cut and reattached, small bone spur shaved, bursitis shaved, and small tear in rotator cuff shaved on 10/26/12. Surgeon did not give me nerve block. PT started 1 1/2 weeks later - mainly massage and some stretches. One PT says its a good thing I did not get nerve block because too many people suffer from nerve damage afterward. He said better to deal with the initial excruciating pain. In recovery, they gave me anti-nausea med along with I don't know how many doses of vicodin, delotte and then finally 2 doses of demerol that finally alleviated the pain in order to release me. I was on 10-325 vicodin every 4 hours for the next 24 hours. It worked to stay ahead of the pain. I now have 5-325 meds and need them only 1 or 2x per week. I take my arm out of the sling to exercise it 3 times a day. Hopefully, dr will release me from sling this week. My arm is very stiff in sling position so I can't wait to start more exercises. I'm hopeful to recover in 6 months so I can golf again.

Dec 04, 2012
new pain... NEW
by: Leslie

Good MOrning All-

To those of you who have had a repair done to injure the other shoulder... I had a SLAP repair, Bicept Tendon cut and reattachment, bone spur shaved and rotator cuff tear fixed a little over a year ago. I finally got back onto the tennis court a few months ago--although my game isnt what it was before ...anyway, ive been having pain in the surgery shoulder for the last several weeks, after being totally pain free for awhile--but what really concerns me is that Im having some nasty pain in my left shoulder and arm--just like what if felt like in my rught (surgery) shoulder. Im so upset and depressed about it, I dont know what to do. Im in denial right now, haven't quit playing tennis yet --even though it hurts--as it is such a huge part of my life--even though I cant lift a gallon of milk out of the fridge anymore with my left arm or lift my purse. I get woken up at night sleeping on my left side from pain. I swore I would NEVER go through that surgery again--but Im in a real corner now--Im scared to even go to the dr and have an MRI-- Any words of advice-- Jana? I know I read you are going t hrough the same thing???

Dec 04, 2012
Leslie NEW
by: Jana

Leslie~
I'm so sorry that you are going through this too. Evidently, it is not uncommon for the "other" shoulder to go bad. My right shoulder has gotten progressively worse, and after having an MRI, my surgeon said I have the same injury...labrum tear + bicep detachment + bone spurs + frozen shoulder= Agony. I'm scheduled for surgery on my other shoulder December 27th and I guarantee you that I am taking my chances with the neck block.
I dread it so much, but I have to eventually get off these pain meds. I've been on them since April 3rd. My first injury occured in October 2011 so it's already been over a year. All I want is to be able to function daily without being in so much pain that I have to take 20 mg of Hydroco and 2 Ibuprofen every 6 hours.
Trust me Leslie, I know how depressing it is, but you need to get an MRI done and talk to your surgeon about the pain in your surgery shoulder too, that is disturbing.
One thing that I am different in than most of you is that my surgeon recommended that I NOT have my bicep reattached. Because of my frozen shoulder it limited my options. He repaired the labrum and cleaned up my shoulder then broke up the frozen shoulder adhesions. Because he did not reattach my bicep, I was in rehab the next day.

Good Luck and Stay In Touch,
Jana

Dec 04, 2012
Thank you NEW
by: Leslie

Thanks for your reply, Jana-Unfortunately, this injury isn't something you can stay blissfully in denial about- Ive TRIED, and that same denial is what kept me playing tennis long past when I should have been and made my injuries so much worse the last time. I know that if I keep playing and dont go do what I need to do, it will only get worse. Im praying that I wont need surgery and can handle this through nothing more than PT this time, but I doubt it- I think I remember from last time that this stuff doesn't get better or repair itself, is that right? Only better with surgery? I cant remember. I think I was on the pain meds for about 6 months after surgery---so I get wanting to get off of them--Please keep us posted and let us know after your surgery how you are doing--It is right around the corner... Hard to believe. Thanks again for your words of support...

Dec 05, 2012
Leslie NEW
by: Jana

Thanks and good luck to you too.

I'm also interested to know if PT therapy without surgery has been successful for anyone and how long did it take?

Merry Christmas Everyone,
Jana

Dec 05, 2012
Leslie NEW
by: Jana

Thanks and good luck to you too.

I'm also interested to know if PT therapy without surgery has been successful for anyone and how long did it take?

Merry Christmas Everyone,
Jana

Dec 05, 2012
PT vs surgery NEW
by: Sara

Hi all,
PT did not work for me. My doctor didn't think it would but it was worth trying as now I know great strengthening exercises for the shoulder. Cortisone shots worked but he would only give me 2 as it breaks down your tissue and would not be good for surgery. Yes surgery was horribly painful but now I am glad I did it. I can pick up,a grocery bag now and actually put my arm on an armrest without pain. 20 weeks out and was using a 9 lb bar in exercise class over the head. It was a bit sore but nothing 2 advil didn't cure. I know some of you had more than a labral tear so things are worse for you. I feel so bad for you as I know how bad the pain can be. I think of you guys and pray that it goes away soon. Jana I hope this other shoulder won't be as bad.

Dec 13, 2012
13 weeks post op NEW
by: neil harris (ENGLAND)

cant wait to use my new resistant bands in 2 weeks -hope they help -sick of people saying well whens it gonna be better? -i dont know!!!!!!! 16 th op and worst by far ,i broke my fib and tib with dislocated ankle and it was easy compared to this but at least when your on crutches people believe you are actually injured !

Dec 17, 2012
Probability of reinjury NEW
by: Anonymous

Hi I'm wondering what is the probabitly of reinjuring my shoulder if I play football

Dec 17, 2012
Probability of reinjury NEW
by: Anonymous

Hi I'm wondering what is the probabitly of reinjuring my shoulder if I play football

Dec 17, 2012
Probability of reinjury NEW
by: Anonymous

Hi I'm wondering what is the probabitly of reinjuring my shoulder if I play football

Dec 17, 2012
football NEW
by: Anonymous

I would say if you play football theres an 85% chance you'll screw up your shoulder again and other part of your body as well.

Dec 19, 2012
Update NEW
by: Sara

Neil, so sorry to hear your pain is still bad. When do you see the doctor next?
Jana, best wishes on the 27th! I hope you get through your daughter's wedding without any issues.
Happy Holidays to all of you labral tear buddies!

Dec 20, 2012
Merry Christmas to Everyone NEW
by: Jana

I wouldn't recommend playing football, but alot of people do it. My husband is a football coach and he has had surgery on both shoulders and both knees. But it is your decision to make.

I'm hanging in there and looking forward to getting this wedding going and then on to my 2nd surgery on the 27th. Thank you for your well wishes.

Blessings and Merry Christmas~
Jana

Dec 20, 2012
improved a bit NEW
by: neil harris (ENGLAND)

id like to wish jana all the best for your operation -hope it goes well and id like to wish us all a merry xmas and hopefully less pain in 2013 for us all -im 3 and half months since surgery and ive noticed improvement in last week im definately feeling a little more optimistic and im hoping to get going on my resistant bands after xmas fingers crossed xxx

Dec 20, 2012
improved a bit NEW
by: neil harris (ENGLAND)

id like to wish jana all the best for your operation -hope it goes well and id like to wish us all a merry xmas and hopefully less pain in 2013 for us all -im 3 and half months since surgery and ive noticed improvement in last week im definately feeling a little more optimistic and im hoping to get going on my resistant bands after xmas fingers crossed xxx

Dec 29, 2012
2nd Shoulder Surgery Done in 2012 NEW
by: Jana

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to Everyone!

Well, I had my 2nd shoulder surgery for 2012 this Thursday. I'm so glad that I have that part over with and that I am on my way to getting my life back. I had the same surgery on my right shoulder that I had on my left shoulder in April. A slap type repair with bicep stenosis???(where they trim up and release the bicep but do not reattach it.) and manipulation for frozen shoulder and cleanup for debris and bone spurs.

The neck block did not take correctly this time and I didn't receive that 12 to 24 hours of painfree that I had the first time. I was in quite a bit of pain by the time I got home and started my pain meds which then helped alot. BUT I did get a partially and temporarily paralyzed diaphram that prevented me from breathing unless I was sitting straight up all night. That was not a pleasant experience and I was afraid that maybe I had thrown a blood clot since I wasn't aware that this was a fairly common complication. But it did wear off by the next morning fortunately.

Even without the nerve block my pain management has been MUCH better this time. The doctor gave me 80 pills of Oxycodone to be take upto 1 or 2 pills every 3 hours. I've been taking 1 every 4 hours and it has worked great. I don't remember if I had taken them last time or not in the beginning and then switched to Norco/Hydrocodone. I actually heart the truth from someone on hospital staff that this surgery can take even a year to recover from...I believe it.

I started P.T. at a different place yesterday (the day after surgery) My new physical therapist said he had my surgery this year except mine was more extensive and he seemed amazed that I was doing PT the very next day. He said he didn't do it and thought I was a pretty tough cookie. I do not have any anchors though like some of you because I did not have my biceps reattached and have to keep my shoulder from freezing up again.

Again, my electric lazyboy is my best friend and I highly recommend one for anyone going through this surgery or you will not get any rest for a very long time.

How is everyone doing??

Blessings~
Jana

Dec 29, 2012
Part 2 NEW
by: Jana

When the sun comes up and I'm more awake, I want to tell you about a product that I have come across that has helped me dramatically. If you have kept up with my drama, you know that I have really been suffering with my shoulders since October of 2011. I had surgery on my left in April and still had the same injury on my right shoulder that was increasingly getting worse to deal with. The ongoing pain was exacerbated by a inflamation. I had a steroid shot in each shoulder this summer and that helped temporarily. But the inflamation built back up in the left shoulder and of course the right shoulder that still need surgery. But after being recommended this product by a friend of mine, I began getting relief by the 2nd day and he told me it took him 2 weeks to be painfree in his hips(he is my UPS driver) This product is all natural and began helping almost immediately, it helped me to take less pain medication and I got much better sleep. Before I began taking it, I was getting up atleast every 4 hours to take more pain meds and on the second night of taking this all natural product, I got up at 3:00 am and then slept until 8:50 am....that was a MIRACLE! It also fixed the bowl complication of taking lots of pain meds...sorry TMI but I just want to help people who have been suffering like me. It has amazing anti inflamatory properties and is relatively new in the U.S.

I'll give you all the information on this product when the sun comes up and I can get all my facts in front of me. I signed up to sell it Wednesday because this is the ONLY thing that has helped me outside of pain pills. I've never sold anything, I hate sales people and I'll never bother you to buy anything BUT if you are in as much pain as I've been you need to atleast try this product.

~Jana

Dec 29, 2012
Thanks Jana NEW
by: Sara

Glad to hear you are doing alright Jana. I hope it heals faster than your first surgery. Neil, how are you? Still improvement from last week? I saw the doc this week and I am 5months out. I don't need to go back! Strength is coming back great. It hurts when lifting over my head and anything too heavy (10 lbs), but I don't need any Advil even! Doc said it will hurt for awhile but I am good to go. I even did some slight push ups! Planks can be done without a problem as well. So back to my workouts with some slight modifications to certain exercises. You guys, it does heal! I am leery to ski and may skip it this year but I am so happy to have a pain free arm and be able to actually rest it on the arm of a chair without pain, and pick up a grocery bag pain free. I never, ever want to go thru this surgery again!

Jan 01, 2013
Neil NEW
by: TKR

Hi Neil, your last post stated you are getting a little better, thats good news. You wanted to know my age: 48 and if it matters I'm female. I've been swimming, weight lifting, and playing softball all my life.

As I have read through the various posts it's evident that there have been a lot of different types of surgeries and being that the shoulder is such a complicated joint every individual will have differing amounts of pain as well as different recovery rates. As I stated before, I had A LOT of pain, was taking the max amount of narcotic pain meds allowed for 3 months straight. Be patient, listen to your body, with physical therapy it may hurt while you're doing it, but it should not hurt afterwards. I always iced after therapy and took ibuprophen for inflamation.

Stay positive, follow the physical therapy plan, don't over do it, and best of luck to you.

Jan 02, 2013
POSSIBLE SLAP TEAR RE-INJURE NEW
by: Maria

Hi everyone, I have labral tear repair a month ago and I was doing ok until PT person graved my arm and pulled up, I have a terrible pain and I have been hurting since for 2 weeks- the doctor said to immobilize arm and to continue with PT after that- I am afraid the labral tear has been re-injured. I will see a different PT now. It is normal to have so much pain after PT? I am 50 –female.

Jan 02, 2013
PT NEW
by: JACK

It is kind of normal to have more pain after physical therapy due too re stretching your tendons and muscles but it shouldn't cause severe pain external rotation forwardwhat elevation would be your worst pain when the stiff begins. My doctor told me to stop PT after 3 months because it was doing more harm than good causing more pain today and Friday all my last PT visits I will say my goodbyes

Jan 24, 2013
10 weeks Post-Op SLAP Repair ? NEW
by: Ben

Hi I am a little over 10 weeks out from surgery. I had a SLAP repair w/ 2 anchors. Doc said RC and biceps looked good. Was in a sling for 6 weeks. Started PT 2 weeks after surgery. My question is I cannot actively raise my arm up past 90 degrees in front and to the side. But when I lay down on my back I can. Passive range of motion looks decent. PT and Doc say its b/c my Lats, upper trap, and subscapularis are pretty much locked down due to soft-tissue restriction and are stopping me from progressing. Ive been stuck at this plateau for the past 3-4 weeks it seems like. Also I get a painful arc whenever I do Wall walks around the 135 degree mark. Has anyone else experienced this? This is driving me nuts... I went from being very active playing sports, crossfit, military, to still not being cleared to even run at this point. Doc says I'm over a month behind on where I should be!

Jan 27, 2013
To Ben NEW
by: Sara

Hey Ben,
About 8-9 weeks I had some major pain which the doctor and PT said was most likely scar tissue breaking up. After a week or so of that it got better. At 11 weeks there was a ton of improvements. However, certain motions will hurt for quite awhile. I am 6 mths out and feel like this last week was a setback. I had some good pain going. Today is a bit better but it goes to show that I should not have slacked off with daily over the head stretches. I think the shoulder tightened up. I also picked up doing more exercises that I think just plain irritated it. Doc did say the other month that it would hurt up to a year since bone shaving and cutting takes a long time to heal. It sucks having to take it easy for so long. I am just so anxious to go back to doing whatever exercising I want. Even jogging irritates yet.

Feb 02, 2013
Update NEW
by: Jana

Hi Everyone,
I wanted to let everyone know that I'm doing alot better after having surgery on my second shouler December 27. I'm not 100% but I'm so much better than I was for months after surgery on my first shoulder in April. No comparison, I haven't even iced it in 2 weeks and I lived with ice on my other one for most of 2012! Seriously, I'm so glad that I had it done.
I also have a friend who had her second shoulder surgery on her other shoulder and she said hers went alot better also. So I just want to let those of you who suspect you may have another shoulder going bad and are terrified at the prospect of a second surgery to go ahead and do it...get it over with and get back to life!!

Blessings to All of You,
Jana

Feb 02, 2013
Update NEW
by: Jana

Hi Everyone,
I wanted to let everyone know that I'm doing alot better after having surgery on my second shouler December 27. I'm not 100% but I'm so much better than I was for months after surgery on my first shoulder in April. No comparison, I haven't even iced it in 2 weeks and I lived with ice on my other one for most of 2012! Seriously, I'm so glad that I had it done.
I also have a friend who had her second shoulder surgery on her other shoulder and she said hers went alot better also. So I just want to let those of you who suspect you may have another shoulder going bad and are terrified at the prospect of a second surgery to go ahead and do it...get it over with and get back to life!!

Blessings to All of You,
Jana

Feb 02, 2013
Update NEW
by: Jana

Hi Everyone,
I wanted to let everyone know that I'm doing alot better after having surgery on my second shouler December 27. I'm not 100% but I'm so much better than I was for months after surgery on my first shoulder in April. No comparison, I haven't even iced it in 2 weeks and I lived with ice on my other one for most of 2012! Seriously, I'm so glad that I had it done.
I also have a friend who had her second shoulder surgery on her other shoulder and she said hers went alot better also. So I just want to let those of you who suspect you may have another shoulder going bad and are terrified at the prospect of a second surgery to go ahead and do it...get it over with and get back to life!!

Blessings to All of You,
Jana

Feb 02, 2013
Update NEW
by: Jana

Hi Everyone,
I wanted to let everyone know that I'm doing alot better after having surgery on my second shouler December 27. I'm not 100% but I'm so much better than I was for months after surgery on my first shoulder in April. No comparison, I haven't even iced it in 2 weeks and I lived with ice on my other one for most of 2012! Seriously, I'm so glad that I had it done.
I also have a friend who had her second shoulder surgery on her other shoulder and she said hers went alot better also. So I just want to let those of you who suspect you may have another shoulder going bad and are terrified at the prospect of a second surgery to go ahead and do it...get it over with and get back to life!!

Blessings to All of You,
Jana

Feb 04, 2013
Labrum Repair and Paralaberal Cyst NEW
by: Conor (Ireland)

Hi guys. Had surgery 18 days ago to repair a Large tear of the Labrum. I also had a Paralaberal cyst drained.

My surgeon told me that when he placed the orthascopic camera in my shoulder he noticed that my shoulder bone had actually chipped off such was the frequency of dislocations I was having (I play Rugby). He told me that he was considering not doing keyhole surgery because of this and would have preferred to open it up but alas, he went ahead.

First week and a half were terribly sore. I since stopped taking medication and have been relatively ok, even managing two social nights out. I've 4 weeks left in the sling before PT. I just hope it's worked ok.

Two of my three wounds are still wet but not infected, is this normal?

Will keep you posted as to my progress!

Feb 04, 2013
Labrum Repair and Paralaberal Cyst NEW
by: Conor (Ireland)

Hi guys. Had surgery 18 days ago to repair a Large tear of the Labrum. I also had a Paralaberal cyst drained.

My surgeon told me that when he placed the orthascopic camera in my shoulder he noticed that my shoulder bone had actually chipped off such was the frequency of dislocations I was having (I play Rugby). He told me that he was considering not doing keyhole surgery because of this and would have preferred to open it up but alas, he went ahead.

First week and a half were terribly sore. I since stopped taking medication and have been relatively ok, even managing two social nights out. I've 4 weeks left in the sling before PT. I just hope it's worked ok.

Two of my three wounds are still wet but not infected, is this normal?

Will keep you posted as to my progress!

Feb 04, 2013
Reply NEW
by: Sara

Jana,
So glad to hear you are doing well! Such great news!
The guy in Ireland, so sorry I just forgot your name- I has stitches out a week later and then taped up. I couldn't get them wet for at least a couple of weeks. Good luck with your recovery.

Feb 05, 2013
Connor NEW
by: Anonymous

Congratulations on being able to get off the pain meds after 18 days.....I am sooo jealous!!! I still take 3 a day and thought I was doing pretty good.
I didn't have may stitches taken out until the 3rd week after surgery.
Keep up the good work!!
Jana

Feb 05, 2013
Connor NEW
by: Anonymous

Congratulations on being able to get off the pain meds after 18 days.....I am sooo jealous!!! I still take 3 a day and thought I was doing pretty good.
I didn't have may stitches taken out until the 3rd week after surgery.
Keep up the good work!!
Jana

Feb 05, 2013
question NEW
by: ME

I had labrum surgery a few months ago and I can't move my armin eexternal rotation what's should I do???? Thanks

Feb 06, 2013
labrum and bicep NEW
by: jay

pu weee!! this is a tough one! had operation dec.20 for bicep and labrum. I have had broken leg in bed for 6 months, Achilles rupture, broken ankle, nose fingers, elbow. Been pretty tough on the old body. But this one takes the nut cake:)) this is one hurting bad boy!!!!!!! today is feb. 6 and have taken myself out of the sling. I have had 3 pt sessions, not to bad until the last one. He pulled my arm in a direction it did not want to go.
Thought I was going to have a baby :)). Still can not sleep for more then 2 hours, then I have to get up and let the arm hang down. Drugs don't help at all. Go back to Doc on Feb 18 and I expect to start some high power therapy. Hoping to get back to golf by April, but after looking here I might have second thoughts. Some times it gets hurting so bad I think I have hurt it again, then I think I did not do anything to hurt it. I guess it is the nature of the beast! Any way enough of my cry baby SHT. Old jock 62, and I am coming back. Just do the therapy and get it on!! "Pew EEE" it is a tough one. God I love pain my wife slaps me around all the time.

Feb 11, 2013
7 months post OP - still pain NEW
by: Jared

Hello Folks,

I'm wondering if there is anyone out there who has had slap tear repair surgery and it took them longer than 7 months to recover. I've been through a lot of ups and downs since surgery. One thing for sure I still have pain. I had a recent MRI and it suprisingly showed no tears. Currently I regret having surgery as I feel worse now than before. Wondering if anyone out there has had surgery and felt this way, but actually made a full recovery. PT seems to be slow going with out much improvement...

Feb 12, 2013
8 weeks now NEW
by: Jay

Pain is getting better! But still have it, went from sharp to now feels like dull on going pain. But doing the exercises every day and it is getting better. I can now with help of the pulley get my arm almost straight over my head. On its own with my muscles I can get it just over my head with pain. Finally starting to get some sleep. Only had to get up once a night the past few days. Go to the Doc on Thursday to see where I am at this point. Good too be able to put my socks on and tuck my shirt in. I dropped my sling after 6 weeks. It really helped be start to get some movement back. Doc said no but the therapist said yes. So I did it with much caution! It worked for me. Went to the golf course and putter for 30 min. on Sunday. Still looks like April before I will be able to play again. I hope! This is a tough operation!!!!!! Good luck to all and do the rehab.

Feb 12, 2013
Labrum and Bicep repair NEW
by: Anonymous

I recently had Labrum and Bicep repair and it has been over 1 month and half of my hand is still numb tingling (feels like pins and needles and hurts like the muscles in there are being stretched; or like my hands waking up but it never does). I was scoped (two incisions; one in the front and one in the back and about a 4-5 inch cut in my arm pit because the doctor said he could not get my bicep from the scope in my shoulder because my shoulder muscles were too big so he had to go through in my arm pit). I just had a follow up and the doctor is saying that this is a “talked about” side effects from the anesthesia and the anesthesiologist and physical therapist are saying the doctor most likely cut some superficial nerves under my arm… I DON’T KNOW WHO TO BELIVE and just want my hand back because I am continually drugged up because it hurts so much!!! I guess I am asking if I am being over concerned and if the feeling in my hand will come back… I’m worried.

Feb 12, 2013
New People NEW
by: Jana

I wanted to come on and let you folks who are new to shoulder surgery and this site know that there is light at the end of the tunnel....but often the tunnel is very very long. I suffered a bicep detachment and labrum tear in both shoulders. One got progressively worse quicker than the other, so I had surgery 5 months after injury on the left and 14 months on the right. By the time I had both surgeries I was in agony and had severe pain for many many months BUT 7 wks out from my surgery on my right surgery and I feel so So SO much better. What they don't tell you is that severe pain for a long period of time is a definite complication of shoulder surgery. Not everyone has it. Some people are really good only a few weeks after BUT many many people have severe pain for many months. To be honest with you, it was about 10 months before my left shoulder felt pretty good...some people it takes a year. Please do not lose heart. Hang in there! It will get better!!!

Jana

Feb 12, 2013
hang tight NEW
by: Anonymous

Bad hand. I would give it a month. No better find the best for second opinion! If it were me. This is no fun. Give it a little time, no matter such way, it is time and pain.....
By the way doc told me vit. B6. Good for nerves. I eat it!
Hang tight it might be right.
Jay

Feb 12, 2013
To Jared NEW
by: Leslie

Hi Jared-

I wanted to answer your post-- I had SLAP repair with the whole thing... torn labrum, Rotator cuff, and bicept tendon re-attachment in September of 2011. At 7 months post surgery, I was still in quite a lot of pain-- I thought I had re-injured myself on multiple occasions. Flash forward to 10 months post surgery and I felt well enough to get back out on the tennis court. Now I am 1 1/2 yrs out, and I will be totally honest with you- I am not the same as I was before I was injured- I dont think I will ever be. After the pain I was in, however, my definition of what is acceptable has changed. I feel "acceptable" levels of pain every day, but I go on with my life and get through it-- it isn't anything that stops me from doing anything that I want to do-- and yes, that includes playing competitive tennis. Hang in there-- Ive spoken to many people who dont feel an inkling of pain after the same surgery. I think I would be there if I didnt play so much tennis, but that is the life I want, so to me it is a trade off Im willing to make. Good luck- this recovery is an excellent, albeit TOUGH lesson in patience!!
My surgery was on my RIGHT side, and now my LEFT side is more painful than my right side ever was pre-surgery... so that scares the hell out of me--Im trying to be happily in denial about that, though. Take care, and just keep plugging away at your therapy. Im convinced that is where the saying "no pain no gain" originated!

Feb 19, 2013
Post-Op Labrum & Bicep Reattachment NEW
by: Amber

I had my surgery on Nov. 29. I am about 3 months after my recovery and have no strength in my shoulder to lift my arm. I have Physical Therapy 2-3 times a week. I have a pulley at home. My current weight restrictions are 5 lbs. occasionally my shoulder pops and I would rate the pain at an 8 or 9 when it does. It's brief but hurts quite a lot. My shoulder hurts in the front where the bicep was reattached and at the top. It hurts to do exterior movements. I was scared I reinsured myself when the first popping occurred, but my doc said that was normal because of fluid and things shifting around. The latest pop was quite a bit worse. I am hopeful that the repair worked and there is actually progress being made. Not being able to lift my arm is difficult. My husband helps me with a lot of personal things like washing my hair, etc. I am hoping, that in the long run, this surgery was worth it. I too have heard it is about a year to fully recover.

Feb 19, 2013
amber NEW
by: Anonymous

Had same surgery, two months ago. Still have pain though it has changed from Sharp to dull. I can use my ARM just not pushing limits, still weak. You can't lift your arm in 3 months, not to scare you, however doesn't sound right

Feb 19, 2013
amber NEW
by: Anonymous

Had same surgery, two months ago. Still have pain though it has changed from Sharp to dull. I can use my ARM just not pushing limits, still weak. You can't lift your arm in 3 months, not to scare you, however doesn't sound right

Feb 19, 2013
amber NEW
by: Anonymous

Had same surgery, two months ago. Still have pain though it has changed from Sharp to dull. I can use my ARM just not pushing limits, still weak. You can't lift your arm in 3 months, not to scare you, however doesn't sound right

Feb 19, 2013
amber NEW
by: Anonymous

Had same surgery, two months ago. Still have pain though it has changed from Sharp to dull. I can use my ARM just not pushing limits, still weak. You can't lift your arm in 3 months, not to scare you, however doesn't sound right

Mar 04, 2013
nearly 6 months after op NEW
by: neil harris (ENGLAND)

had my surgery nearly 6 months ago still not able to lift weights although iVE nearly got full range of movement but still really painful in my rear shoulder -i have all same fears as others it feels like its never going to get better but people say it will keep improving for up to year so fingers crossed i never envisaged all this pain and hardship of getting over a labrum tear -am i glad i had the surgery ?no not at this stage but in 6 months hopefully i will say yes
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mar 04, 2013
nearly 6 months after op NEW
by: neil harris (ENGLAND)

had my surgery nearly 6 months ago still not able to lift weights although iVE nearly got full range of movement but still really painful in my rear shoulder -i have all same fears as others it feels like its never going to get better but people say it will keep improving for up to year so fingers crossed i never envisaged all this pain and hardship of getting over a labrum tear -am i glad i had the surgery ?no not at this stage but in 6 months hopefully i will say yes
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mar 04, 2013
12 weeks NEW
by: Jay

Pretty good movement, pain is much better. Gets stiff if I take a day off from exercises. Out putting on the golf course. Tried chipping no problem. Pitching is still not ready, tried it but could tell I better not push it. Range of motion is about 95%, however have to move through a little pain to get to extreme points. Can do everything but it is still week. Pretty happy at this point!

Mar 04, 2013
nearly 6 months after op NEW
by: neil harris (ENGLAND)

had my surgery nearly 6 months ago still not able to lift weights although iVE nearly got full range of movement but still really painful in my rear shoulder -i have all same fears as others it feels like its never going to get better but people say it will keep improving for up to year so fingers crossed i never envisaged all this pain and hardship of getting over a labrum tear -am i glad i had the surgery ?no not at this stage but in 6 months hopefully i will say yes
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mar 07, 2013
7 weeks after surgery NEW
by: Rachel

Hey everyone,
I had surgery about 7 weeks ago. I had a post surgery check up at week 5 and could not raise my arm in any direction more than a 45 degree angle. I started with a new physical therapist that seriously stretches me. He said it is mild and that we will get aggressive later on...um no! If he thinks mild mean, I feel as if he is ripping my shoulder off to the point that I feel like I'm going to pass out then definitely not going aggressive. Anyway, now I can lift my arm in front to 120 degrees after PT. Still so much stiffness and pain. I keep feeling weirdness in my lat area and the PT said its called scapular winging. Anyone else have this? My shoulder gets to the point where it won't go any further and my shoulder blade slides out of place to compensate. So, I'm frustrated going from active lifestyle to couch potato and wanted to know if anyone else has tried any compression sleeves that go over the shoulder? If so, what kind and your results with it. I feel like compression would increase circulation, promote healing, and allow me to start some exercising like light jogging. Ok, that is plenty of questions so any advice or experience you all have had then I'm all ears. Good luck everyone, this surgery sucks!

Mar 21, 2013
slap tear, bicep tendon reattachment and decompression NEW
by: Anonymous

13 weeks out of surgery, last week chipped and putted, yesterday wed/20 hit full 9 iron and a full bucket with no problem. still have stiffness and min. pain. but was surprised there was no issue in hitting balls. been working hard 4 times a week at the gym, with weights. my therapist came by while i was working out, said you can 10 pound fly's. Yep, well you can probably go hit some balls, and play in 3 weeks. i go to the doc on Friday. I still have a ways to go, stiff in the morning but during the day not a issue. WOW
Jay

Apr 01, 2013
@Slap Nightmare by Anonymous NEW
by: Anonymous

Your case is unfortunately unique.

Having said that, your bitter attitude to those that haven't had the surgery can be frightening.

I'm sure with the right Physical Therapy, you could get better results. This also pertains to your mental attitude.

I had the SLAP Repair done, and was climbing 4 months after... The surgery is important if you plan on doing a lot of sport. If not, you need to assess the necessity.

If you do it, do it properly and adhere to there physical therapy regime.

I don't regret getting the surgery one bit.

Apr 01, 2013
@Slap Nightmare by Anonymous NEW
by: Anonymous

Your case is unfortunately unique.

Having said that, your bitter attitude to those that haven't had the surgery can be frightening.

I'm sure with the right Physical Therapy, you could get better results. This also pertains to your mental attitude.

I had the SLAP Repair done, and was climbing 4 months after... The surgery is important if you plan on doing a lot of sport. If not, you need to assess the necessity.

If you do it, do it properly and adhere to there physical therapy regime.

I don't regret getting the surgery one bit.

Apr 02, 2013
15 weeks post NEW
by: Anonymous

feeling pretty cocky! Went out and played 18 holes of golf! Wrong!!!! Next day felt like I was in a fight and lost. The following two days I thought I had tore the 6 clips loose in my shoulder. Pain all over again. Today is Tuesday and I played on
Saturday, went to the gym and worked on it. had some Ibuprofen and (blue stop) purchased from Sams Club. External rub (this stuff is unbelievable good. Was real afraid I did a bad thing (which I did) but this morning I feel I am out of the woods, much better. My pt said take it slow, should have listened. Good lesson. Take it slow! Even if you think you are Good.
Jay

Apr 02, 2013
JACK THE WHACK IS BACK NEW
by: Jack

6 months post op no pain , frozen shoulder can't do external rotation but im in the gym 5 days a week gaining some muscle back im sure by the summer imm have fixed my frozen shoulder since im a personal trainer. Id say recover went well and would have this surgery again if i had too but with out the crappy vicodin and percs, advil is just fine. Becareful on those pain pills people they creep up on you and you feel sick when you sto so ween off slowly... Good luck all and god bless.

Jack the Whack

Apr 02, 2013
15 weeks NEW
by: Jay

just got back from the gym, feel great (phu wee) was scared! PT told me I just broke up scar tissue! He told me if you hurt something at this point you will really know you have done it. Snap crackle pop! told me just to hit short irons for two more weeks and the let it roll. :))
Jay

lucky bird!!!

Apr 04, 2013
6 weeks post-op NEW
by: Anonymous

Hello,

I had type 2 slap repair with subacromial decompression six weeks ago. Am off work on FMLA for 12 weeks and worried I will not by ready for work at the end of the 12 weeks. I work as a Corrections Officer and was wondering if anyone had any idea of when a realistic time is when I will go back to work, or will I be able to go back at all.

thanks in advance

Apr 05, 2013
12 weeks out - info for corrections officer :) NEW
by: Rachel

Hello all! I am now 12 weeks out and still struggling quite a bit. I was finally allowed to drive at week 9 and returned to work on light duty. I'm a fed. police supervisor so I'm stuck on desk duty which isn't so bad, but miss some things about being out and about. My doctor said it would be a few more months before I can return to full duty especially I can't get my arms to move well enough to draw out of my holster well, shoulder long guns, forget defensive tactics right now, and not enough strength yet even for the CPR compression without pain. This info. is for the corrections officer that is on FMLA for 12 weeks. You might be a quick healer, but to be honest I have been told by my doc. that it is normally 6 months before full duty status. Are there admin. duties you could do as an officer? Most of our officers on light duty end up working in dispatch areas and/or monitoring all the camera systems.

Here is new info since my last post: I have since changed physical therapists to one that seems to use different techniques that are producing better results for me with less pain. There are definitely moments of unpleasant discomfort, but my new PT said there should never been extreme, sharp pains. I was having the pain run down my arm into the top of my hand and causing three of my fingers to go numb. This is getting better and they think it might be because of inflammation pushing against a nerve. I also went to a chiropractor and he also does work in physical therapy! Score for me :) I think my chiro. doc has produced even better results in combo with PT if not solely results because of chiro doc. I had my PT tell me that my labrum was repaired but I might have a small tear in my rotator cuff...I felt super discouraged. My chiro doc looked at it today and said he doubts it, but that I do have a 2nd impingement which is causing my arm to lock up and not move as much as it should with a regular slap tear. I have forward movement of 145 degrees yay! Only 60 degrees out to my side and hardly anything external rotation, but I just keep working at it. I won't lie this surgery has been a challenge, but gotta have faith it will all work out.

Apr 16, 2013
Two surgeries, first one hurts worse NEW
by: Anonymous

Hey I had a tear in my labrum from 2-9 clockwise that was repaired on my left shoulder in december 12 and another labrum tear and loose bodies taken out of my right shoulder in march 13 almost three months apart to the date. My left one was rehabbing great, I had gotten over the pain for the most part and could sleep decent on some nights. Then when i got shoulder surgery on my right shoulder my left shoulder went full bore pain again. I am thinking that somehow the doctors rehurt my left arm when moving me in surgery because im a 300lb football player,or am i just experiencing some kind of relapse?

Apr 16, 2013
Two surgeries, first one hurts worse NEW
by: Anonymous

Hey I had a tear in my labrum from 2-9 clockwise that was repaired on my left shoulder in december 12 and another labrum tear and loose bodies taken out of my right shoulder in march 13 almost three months apart to the date. My left one was rehabbing great, I had gotten over the pain for the most part and could sleep decent on some nights. Then when i got shoulder surgery on my right shoulder my left shoulder went full bore pain again. I am thinking that somehow the doctors rehurt my left arm when moving me in surgery because im a 300lb football player,or am i just experiencing some kind of relapse?

Apr 16, 2013
16 weeks NEW
by: Anonymous

played golf Friday, sat, Sunday with no problems. Not totally better, still have some aches and pains
but just over head movement.

Apr 16, 2013
16 weeks NEW
by: Anonymous

played golf Friday, sat, Sunday with no problems. Not totally better, still have some aches and pains
but just over head movement.

Apr 26, 2013
7 AND 1/2 SINCE LABRUM OP NEW
by: neil harris (ENGLAND)

im nearly 8 months post op after having labrum tear ,rotator cuff tear and supraspinator shaved id been knocked off my push bike by a car-im back driving buses 4 days aweek (GONE PART TIME).my rear shoulder still really painful had it injected last week cos ive developed capsulitus now as well -im having little bike rides and still doing my physio with bands but still not lifting weights yet due to all round neck and shoulder pain -worst op ive ever had and ive had 15 due to all my sport i played in younger days ill keep fighting this and doing all the right things in the hope its gonna all knit back together and all my tendons lagaments and muscles start to work together and all the pain will gradually go?GOOD LUCK TO ALL XX

Apr 26, 2013
7 AND 1/2 SINCE LABRUM OP NEW
by: neil harris (ENGLAND)

im nearly 8 months post op after having labrum tear ,rotator cuff tear and supraspinator shaved id been knocked off my push bike by a car-im back driving buses 4 days aweek (GONE PART TIME).my rear shoulder still really painful had it injected last week cos ive developed capsulitus now as well -im having little bike rides and still doing my physio with bands but still not lifting weights yet due to all round neck and shoulder pain -worst op ive ever had and ive had 15 due to all my sport i played in younger days ill keep fighting this and doing all the right things in the hope its gonna all knit back together and all my tendons lagaments and muscles start to work together and all the pain will gradually go?GOOD LUCK TO ALL XX

Apr 28, 2013
Disappointed NEW
by: NYC2013

I had a Over seen issue that got worse due to my cocky doctor not listening to my original complaint. I had a Pec tear originally and started to feel a LOT of pain in my bicep & shoulder 3 months into my Pec rehab.

I was told to take NSAID and work through the pain, that it was normal and to progress to heavier weights to help rehab my Pec. My bicep and shoulder would hurt when simply clapping or washing my hands (shoulder extension / elbow flexsion) . But the doctor insisted that I work through the pain. (2 doctors! One from the fire dept and the Surgeon)

Finally 5 months into PT for my Pec my bicep became so weak and sensitive that I had to stop everything due to the extreme amount of pain that I was in. Finally the Doctor insists that I get an MRI OF MY SHOULDER in October revealing that I had a SLAP tear and 4 other issues.

The doctor said that ultrasound guided cortisone injections were the answer and that in 2 weeks I would feel 100%. What a bunch of BS! The injections made my shoulder and bicep more sensitive and just as weak.

Now I am told to get a SLAP tear repair. I agreed, not knowing what I was in for. I though I was getting a re-anchoring of my labrum. I was unaware that I was going to get a BicepTenodesis, which the Surgeon was nice enough to tell me prior to walking into the O.R. 12/2012

I get the Bicep Tenodesis and debriment of my labrum. I am in a sling for about 7 weeks and start rehab on Feb.2013. In 6 weeks I am cleared to start light resistance at PT. right away my shoulder is grinding, clicking, popping, & catching (locking up). I didn't have this prior to the bicep tenodesis. I am in shock that I am worse than before this SLAP tear surgery. I am disappointed in myself for trusting this surgeon when I know that all he cares about is his reputation (not his patients).

My life isn't the same. I use to be super active (working out, fitness trainer, yoga, martial arts, ect..) I am a firefighter that knows that his career is now over. This has been life altering for me. I am so disappointed. I am going to PT 2x a week still. I ice my shoulder at work & home. I purchased a TENS, IF, EMS, & Microcurrent 4 in 1 unit, which helps a lotion easing the pain.

Any input would be greatly appreciated.
All the best
K

Jun 08, 2013
6 weeeks post Slap repair/Bicep Tendonesis NEW
by: Terri

I am six weeks post surgery and I still have quite a bit of pain. My shoulder is freezing up even with aggressive therapy. I am getting frustrated as I feel that I should be further along. I am very concerned with the shoulder freezing up. I had better range of motion 3 weeks ago. My doctor is talking about going in and forcing the shoulder to move under anesthesia I just don't think I can handle another procedure this was just so extremely painful on top of being sleep deprived. I have therapy three times a week as well as work it out at home. I feel I'm not making any progress but going backwards. This surgery really has taken a toll on me. Not to mention my family. I will be so glad when this is all over. !!!!

Jun 09, 2013
Terri NEW
by: Anonymous

I was told that I had a frozen shoulder too after shoulder surgery. My Dr. Told me he could release the frozen shoulder
Under general anesthesia . Go to u tube and look up release ing frozen shoulder under general anesthesia . I took one look at that and said forget it. Btw, it's not always successful. You then have to recover all over again. I ended up going to Bowen
Therapist and she got my shoulder thawed out. I did have to
pay for it myself 160.00 for 3 visits. I went about 10 times.
It was also very comfortable and very helpful. Hope this helps.

Reggie

Jun 09, 2013
Terri NEW
by: Anonymous

I was told that I had a frozen shoulder too after shoulder surgery. My Dr. Told me he could release the frozen shoulder
Under general anesthesia . Go to u tube and look up release ing frozen shoulder under general anesthesia . I took one look at that and said forget it. Btw, it's not always successful. You then have to recover all over again. I ended up going to Bowen
Therapist and she got my shoulder thawed out. I did have to
pay for it myself 160.00 for 3 visits. I went about 10 times.
It was also very comfortable and very helpful. Hope this helps.

Reggie

Jun 09, 2013
Terri NEW
by: Anonymous

I was told that I had a frozen shoulder too after shoulder surgery. My Dr. Told me he could release the frozen shoulder
Under general anesthesia . Go to u tube and look up release ing frozen shoulder under general anesthesia . I took one look at that and said forget it. Btw, it's not always successful. You then have to recover all over again. I ended up going to Bowen
Therapist and she got my shoulder thawed out. I did have to
pay for it myself 160.00 for 3 visits. I went about 10 times.
It was also very comfortable and very helpful. Hope this helps.

Reggie

Jun 09, 2013
Terri NEW
by: Anonymous

I was told that I had a frozen shoulder too after shoulder surgery. My Dr. Told me he could release the frozen shoulder
Under general anesthesia . Go to u tube and look up release ing frozen shoulder under general anesthesia . I took one look at that and said forget it. Btw, it's not always successful. You then have to recover all over again. I ended up going to Bowen
Therapist and she got my shoulder thawed out. I did have to
pay for it myself 160.00 for 3 visits. I went about 10 times.
It was also very comfortable and very helpful. Hope this helps.

Reggie

Jun 09, 2013
Frozen shoulder NEW
by: JACK

I am 8 1/2 months post op I am a personal trainer so I know all the fundamental movements of body building. I can bench press 250lbs 10 times. My shoulder was frozen 2 months ago I fixed it myself using the elliptical machine then band training and stretching, then weight training. If I feel pain during a set I stop right away. I workout slow and controlled. I am gaining muscle and loosing fat quickly. I do have pain when doing front raises or flies with weights. When I do have pain its still worse than before I had surgery... I feel the surgery wasn't worth it.

JaCk tHe WhaCK

Oct 15, 2013
pain back again ten months out NEW
by: ryan in belfast

Hello guys was reading all youre comments in the run up to my surgery and shortly after just cudnt find this site again to let you all know how i was getting on.I got arthoscopic shoulder stabilisation surgery with five anchors inserted aparntly instead of the usual three as there was so much damagr.This was in december 2012 so im about ten months post op.My range of movement is poor and all the old symstoms have returned lately popping clicking discomfort in suites and coats etc thats the reallly annoying part.I was in aling for six weeks got minimal p.t. on it through threw the nhs.Id say i was back doing pushups and back exercises with weights at around the three or four month mark as approved by my physio.For months the shoulder felt ok recently tho ive tried above head presses and benching lightly again im sure this has inflammed things.Before surgery i was lifting bigbweights and fweling good about the shoulder finally getting some joy living with it.Not so now i feel the loss of movement constant pain and loss of stength means this surgery has been a disaster.If id to choosr again id have never went under the knife.Does anyone else have these same symptoms return this long after surgery.Id really love to hear from neil in england and some of the others who are further out than me

Oct 15, 2013
to Ryan NEW
by: Leslie

Hi Ryan--

My surgery was done a good 3 years ago. I, too, had a very, very slow recovery-- I play competitive tennis and was out for a full year--- and I just am now starting to get my old game back. Its been a long road.

After that first year, I had basically little to no pain for a LONG time. For the last couple of months, th-inough, it is starting to hurt a good bit again. The pain wakes me up at night several times, I can't sleep on that side at all, and I have substantial weakness in the shoulder and arm. I dont know if it is normal, if Im just overusing it and need to rest it a little, or if Ive re-injured something. I have good and bad days, with the good only having minimal pain...(but it is still there) to more moderate to severe impairment.
At a year out, you are probably still going to have some good and bad days, and sometimes you might even feel like you have reinjured yourself...I think at your stage, that must be normal--- I didnt go pain free for a substantial amount of time until at least a year and a half after surgery--- I had some awesome days, but also had days where I thought it was just going to have to be something I was going to have to learn to live with... more chronic.
I do know that at about your stage, I went back to my dr. and he did a quick ultrasound to see if all of my anchors were still in place or if any were ripped out--- I guess they are easy to see on ultrasound...anyway, I hadn't, it was still just my body adjusting. Just remember that you went through a MAJOR surgery, and it takes TIME. Yes, after a year you can be pretty much back to your normal life--but there will still (and maybe always will be) little twinges that we feel---I am really starting to believe that is just normal. Hang in there, use that ice, keep doing your PT at home, and if in serious doubt, do go see your Dr.
Good Luck, and keep us posted!

Mar 13, 2014
2 weeks post op NEW
by: Chad Brown

Hey guys,

Love the door it's been a huge tool for me during this experience. I tore my labrum, partial tear in my bicept, also I had a done bone spurs. Had the arthroscopic procedure 2 weeks ago (repair plus several anchors were used). First week sucks big time. Second week or stated to get better. I'm ordered to be in a sling for 4 more weeks except for sleeping and showing. Any time I take the sling off and slightly move my arm i hear a loud squeaking and I feel a slight click along with pain. I see stuff for months or years post op about this but nothing 2 weeks post op? Has anyone experienced this so soon?

Mar 13, 2014
2 weeks post op NEW
by: Chad Brown

Hey guys,

Love the door it's been a huge tool for me during this experience. I tore my labrum, partial tear in my bicept, also I had a done bone spurs. Had the arthroscopic procedure 2 weeks ago (repair plus several anchors were used). First week sucks big time. Second week or stated to get better. I'm ordered to be in a sling for 4 more weeks except for sleeping and showing. Any time I take the sling off and slightly move my arm i hear a loud squeaking and I feel a slight click along with pain. I see stuff for months or years post op about this but nothing 2 weeks post op? Has anyone experienced this so soon?

Mar 13, 2014
2 weeks post op NEW
by: Chad Brown

Hey guys,

Love the door it's been a huge tool for me during this experience. I tore my labrum, partial tear in my bicept, also I had a done bone spurs. Had the arthroscopic procedure 2 weeks ago (repair plus several anchors were used). First week sucks big time. Second week or stated to get better. I'm ordered to be in a sling for 4 more weeks except for sleeping and showing. Any time I take the sling off and slightly move my arm i hear a loud squeaking and I feel a slight click along with pain. I see stuff for months or years post op about this but nothing 2 weeks post op? Has anyone experienced this so soon?

Mar 24, 2014
Slap Tear Recovery NEW
by: Mike

Had surgery for a torn slap, partial rotator cuff and bone spurs about 6 weeks ago. I've been in therepy now for 4 weeks. I have seen some progress in ROM but the strength is still not there. The pain days out number the good days. No sleep at night is the norm. I am a painter for a school district and starting to feel mentally tired! I need to get back to work ASAP! I will be able to go back to work soon on light duty painting etc with one arm but right now it takes everything I have to get through the day not doing anything. Counting down the 4 month recovery time frame and as of now thinking will I ever get my arm/ shoulder back to where I need it to be to do my job! Just feeling really discouraged at this point.

Mar 30, 2014
any hope for me? NEW
by: chris

had my second rotator cuff repair 18mths ago. 20 years apart and already the rerepair has failed. I also had a bicep tenodesis which is still giving me grief. so have no supraspinatus, half an infraspinatus and now a slap tear. oh and the docs have just diagnosed chronic regional pain syndrome (nerve damage). being 45 I have arthritis and maybe shoulder replacement to come. Maybe they should just shoot me now. Sleep? whats that? Anyone else living like me?

Mar 30, 2014
any hope for me? NEW
by: chris

had my second rotator cuff repair 18mths ago. 20 years apart and already the rerepair has failed. I also had a bicep tenodesis which is still giving me grief. so have no supraspinatus, half an infraspinatus and now a slap tear. oh and the docs have just diagnosed chronic regional pain syndrome (nerve damage). being 45 I have arthritis and maybe shoulder replacement to come. Maybe they should just shoot me now. Sleep? whats that? Anyone else living like me?

Mar 31, 2014
been there done that NEW
by: gareth (england)

Had my 2nd op on my right shoulder last august, went in to have my collar bone shaved again (20 min op) but came round after having 1 hr op as my tendon was coming away from the bone and they anchored it in 2 places to the bone.Was in agony after the op and put in special brace to keep it still and had to wear it for 5 whole days(no sleep!!) had very good PT twice a week for 2 months and now am feeling the benefit.My shoulder was very painful before op but is now much better,although often sore in the morning, and takes a while to get moving, but hey its better!!Had a lot of shoulder pain before but it 'popped' when i was painting my ceiling and so it began....! Am glad i had op so for everyone out there worrying about it i would say, go ahead,although i have not got full use of it, my shoulder is so much better and they reckon it was caused by taking so many throw ins when i used to play football!! It still feels weak but worth the pain and i think it took 10 months to get where i am.

May 31, 2014
58 year old hospital worker can I realy get back to work after NEW
by: YABANIZ

hI MY 1ST SURGERY WAS 1/2013 3 ANKERS SLAP 2 AND BUCKET HANDLE TEARS 2 partial rotater cuff tears. 3months after pain started back 8 months later 2 cort shots same pain as when I 1st injured the shoulder. Kept telling PT and Doctors that my shoulder felt like it was coming out of socket. They didnt think so. Had 2nd MRI with contrast. will yes in dead there was damage. Went in the 2 slap tears had not healed so they did a tendonesis. This has been on going for 2 years. If I would have studyed the imformation on the web more I would have gone for the tendonesis in the 1st place! I work on a hospital floor so I need to be able to do heavey lifts and CPR. Has any one come out of this surgery and been able to do heavey work again.

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