open reduction internal fixation right ankle

by grant Jordan
(miami,fl)

19th FEB

19th FEB

I work for parks and recreation / we offer tours IE: kayaking, canoeing, biking, backpacking, camping, ect. so needless to say I am into a lot of outdoor sports!

4 months ago I was involved in a motorcycle accident that left me with a severe, open fracture to my right ankle, both bones came out tearing through ligaments, tendons, soft tissue, muscle, basically ripping my foot half way off.

i went through what was called an open reduction / internal fixation meaning they put a plate with 8 screws on the right side, and 1 screw on the left. my cast was taken off on the 19th (feb)
I was then sent back to the emergency room for what they thought was an infection for 5 more days. I started therapy 2 weeks ago, and am finding it more difficult then I imagined.

the reason being is that my foot healed in the prone position, instead of the neutral position,
every time i go into therapy they bend my foot back (very painfull) to get the range of motion back. i understand why and i am ok with that, but the problem is, is that i was getting better and the doctor had cleared me for full weight bearing, i could put some weight on it before, the last therapy, but this time she really pushed it, and i heard something pop! and now my foot is back to the black and blue stage where it was 2 months earlier, and now cant put any weight on it at all.

Is this normal? And does it get better? And should I think about orthoscopic scar tissue removal?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.


thank you,
grant

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Mar 12, 2014
hope you feel better NEW
by: Anonymous

I just had the same thing done to my left ankle. My horse over jumped a small warm up jump like it was a 5 foot oxer and popped me lose. I get my cast taken off next week. But does anyone know any good physical therapy exercises that can get be back in the saddle?

Apr 16, 2013
success story NEW
by: Anonymous

I broke four metatarsals and both ankle bones. I also had a Lisfranc injury which means all the tendons and ligaments were pulled and stretched badly. All this falling off a bike! I had the best surgeon with 28 screws and three plates. I had a second surgery to take out three screws. Four years later, I am good to go. I can jog 3-4 miles and use the elliptical religiously. This is hope for all of you who have more recent injuries. Oh yeah, and 9 months of PT helped too. Good luck!

Sep 15, 2012
post from 29th Aug NEW
by: CHRISTIAN

Hi Apologies, I didnt mention my age, I am 34 and have been involved in playing sport for over 20 years.

I am also attending a hyperbaric chamber an hour a day and am taking arnicka tablets which as a result has seen the bruising on my foot totally disappear.

I am due to get the cast removed in 2 weeks, was originally told that I could be in a cast for 12 weeks, this has now halved.

My ankle has movement in it , and the pain from the incision has disappeared which I think is down to the chamber and arnicka.

I know its early days but I think it is healing well - but I may be wrong.

Will post again once I have seen the surgeon in the next 2 weeks

Happy Healing

Sep 07, 2012
Ankle nightmare NEW
by: Mark

Hi everyone and thanks Julie for your posts but I wondering what to do next after having all the ankle orif surgery with a plate and screws including the bone graft then the ankle debridement I'm still in severe pain when weight bearing the consultant said the MRI was clear and put me back to physio ive been to my gp because each time I've had to up the painkillers I was on tramodol now I'm on something stronger can't remember the name but the pain is getting worse but I've been told to carry on with physio after walking on it my ankle swells up with pain and I get purple bruising around the ankle bone so
Help has anyone got any advice to what I should do as I've had this for 10 mths now and it's really grinding me down
Many thanks Mark

Aug 29, 2012
Details NEW
by: RoannaO

Hi. I just turned 40 a couple of weeks ago. I was injured on April 13, 2012. I have not had any phys. rehab. I chose to do it myself. I followed the advice I found online. The swimming pool daily routine, and a no-sugar, lots of leafy greens, lean protein diet has helped, I think.

I have arthritis in my hands and elbows when I eat a traditional white-carb diet. So I no longer eat white carbs or sugar, and I stick to low-sugar berries for my fruit intake. Sugar and carbs make my arthritis flare up so bad that I cannot bear writing on a keyboard.

I am having a good week. I don't know what's coming. All I do know, this is the first time in four months that I have felt hopeful. I like it!

Aug 29, 2012
To: Advise Surgery NEW NEW
by: Julie

Hi, You didn't mention how old you are in your post, which may have a lot to do with how much you might be able to do once you are completely healed. I was 52 when I had my injury, and am now dealing with arthritis in the joint, it has completely changed my life as far as not being able to walk much, or stand long, and I deal with swelling and pain and stiffness daily. Unless your bones heal and you can get the hardware removed, I doubt you will have the flexibility for sports, and you must do your PT without fail. So, that is pretty much as I see it. Let us know how you continue to do.

Aug 29, 2012
UPDATE! NEW
by: RoannaO

I am four months out from my Trimall Fracture with dislocation. One metal plate and seven screws in my left ankle. I have turned a corner, finally. I have been walking in the pool and doing lots of swimming. This week was a turning point for me. My body suddenly decided to stop protecting that ankle, and let my hips begin to balance out. My limp has improved about 50% just in the last week. I went to DC and NYC a couple of weeks ago for my 40th bday, and it was a nightmare. I could barely walk longer than a few minutes, if that. Now, I can walk comfortably for several minutes. My right side is not getting numb and tired from overuse. My spirits are higher. I feel like I am seeing good results.

I wanted to update my story so that those who follow me on this extremely difficult journey see that there is a light at the end of the tunnel. If anyone ever needs to talk or wants to hear about my recovery plan, feel free to email me at my name above @cox.net. I know how rough this injury is, and the Internet is not filled with good news. Remember, each one of us is different. It is possible to have a good outcome. I wish everyone the very best. I will be back at the six-month mark to update again. Good luck everyone, and remember, it's not just a run-of-the-mill "broken leg." It is a serious injury that needs time and care to heal. There is a mental aspect I was certainly not prepared for, and I hope anyone reading this remembers to be kind to themself. It is depressing, painful, scary, and unknown. You will rebound!!

Aug 29, 2012
Advise Post Surgery NEW
by: Anonymous

Hi

I had an open reduction and internal fixation 2 weeks ago, in addition sever ligament damage.

Am due to get my stitches out in the next couple of days , I can walk with the aid of a foam shoe without my crutches ( am in a half leg cast), although I have only done this on random occasions the cast has become extremely loose and is rubbing on my heel - this hopefully is due to the swelling going down.

Reading some of the stories it would appear that this is quite a severe injury , however with painkillers once a day I am able to get about okay.

My question is , will it be possible to resume sport after such an injury?

Thanks for your time

Aug 29, 2012
To Mark NEW
by: Julie

Hi, so sorry you are in such pain. I am almost 2 years post surgery, and had my disability hearing yesterday, after a very long wait. Hopefully it will go in my favor. I am also due to go back to physical therapy after they dismissed me, I had no insurance at the time, and was unable to continue. I have heard of people actually injuring themselves again during therapy, and wonder if with hardware if they just don't get there is only so much movement you can do. I would seriously talk to your surgeon and demand that they be honest with you in your prognosis. Mine was very contrary after a while, and I am not sure if I would ever go back to him now. Good luck.

Aug 29, 2012
Ankle debridement nightmare NEW
by: Mark

Hi everyone it's me once again ,I'm after some help or advice on what to do I'm 10 mths post ankle orif surgery (metal Plate and 8 screws in my fibula with a bone graft from my heel) with ankle debridement and micro fracture to replace the cartlidge in my ankle socket as I took a lump out of that when I displaced my ankle socket all at the same time
Like I said I'm 10 mths post surgery and the pain is worse than ever I'm constantly in pain and taking tramadol every day my physio was stopped due to the pain and I had to have a 2nd MRI ,i saw my surgeon and he said the MRI was fine and has now put me back on physio,I'm concerned as I've been walking and weight baring on my ankle for the last 3mths and it's getting worse so I don't see what physio is going to do for me can anyone give me some advice on what to do or has anything like this happened to anyone else and what makes it worse is tha I done it in march 2011

Aug 29, 2012
Ankle debridement nightmare NEW
by: Mark

Hi everyone it's me once again ,I'm after some help or advice on what to do I'm 10 mths post ankle orif surgery (metal Plate and 8 screws in my fibula with a bone graft from my heel) with ankle debridement and micro fracture to replace the cartlidge in my ankle socket as I took a lump out of that when I displaced my ankle socket all at the same time
Like I said I'm 10 mths post surgery and the pain is worse than ever I'm constantly in pain and taking tramadol every day my physio was stopped due to the pain and I had to have a 2nd MRI ,i saw my surgeon and he said the MRI was fine and has now put me back on physio,I'm concerned as I've been walking and weight baring on my ankle for the last 3mths and it's getting worse so I don't see what physio is going to do for me can anyone give me some advice on what to do or has anything like this happened to anyone else and what makes it worse is tha I done it in march 2011

Aug 15, 2012
2 plates 9 screws or more and a wire NEW
by: Justin

I was involved in a motorcycle accident and in the accident on june 20th my foot was crushed between my bike and the minivan that hit me from the side. They said I lost my entire ankle and I was lucky to have my foot. This has been the worst time of my life. I am only 26 years old and I have a family with 2 boys. My youngest iis 8 months and I feel like im missing out on so much as our room is in the basement and since the accident I keep to myself in my room. They waited 3 weeks to do surgery I had it done july 11th because the swelling was to bad the risk of infection wa to high I have been in my airboot now for 2 weeks and started PT for range of motion. They put 2 plates in me one is normal plate going up and down on the side of my foot and the other is a L shaped plate that is on my right side and the bottom of the L is the part that goes through my foot I can move it about 50% but can't move it all the way up to make my foot flat enough to put my heel down when I sit I always have to keep my foot out further to do so even while standing but I don't put weight on it yet doctors orders. Am I going to experience alot of pain when I go to walk? It scares me thinking that I wont ever want to walk on it again. Also will I get more range of motion in the top of my foot because it feels like it wants to snap in half in the top of my ankle from trying to bend it to much but I have to if I want to walk right.

Aug 07, 2012
Ankle orif surgery NEW
by: Mark

Hi all it's mark again just to re-cap on what I had done. I had the ankle orif surgery (one plate and 8 screws on my fib also bone graft took from my heel to fill in the inch gap in my fib and then ankle debridement with microfracture surgery to generate scar tissue to replace the cartlidge I lost when I displaced the ankle socket all done in two operations one straight after the other. Ibadan this done in November 2011 I've just been to see the consultant to see the results of the second MRI I had as I'm still in a lot of pain when walking and bending my ankle I was shocked when he said that everything looks fine I can't understand this as the pain is worse and I've even weight baring for about 4months now. Has anyone took this long or more to recover from anything like this as I feel down now as I don't feel I'm making any progress to get back to normal this whole thing is a nightmare

Aug 04, 2012
To Julie NEW
by: Anonymous

Hello julie, sorry that you are going thru this.. I am 36 years old. My cast was removed and now I am on a weight baring boot. Started physical teraphy last week and seems to be going...

I hope you feel better soon.

Aug 03, 2012
RE: thoughts are with you. NEW
by: Anonymous

I'm so sorry you are going through this, Mark. I cannot comment on your particular situation as mine is a tri-mal with dislocation (4/13/2012) but I have not had the nightmare you are going through. This has been the most trying injury I have ever endured and a nightmare in itself, but you sound like you have more hills to climb. I just wanted to tell you that my heart goes out to you. I hope and pray that you will find a solution that works. I will root for your success everyday. Please update us, and I hope you find someone that found a way through what you are dealing with.

Aug 03, 2012
Ankle orif surgery NEW
by: Anonymous

It's mark again ,I'm having a nightmare ,I had ankle prof surgery having a metal plate and 8svrews put in with a bone graft from my heel to put into the inch gap of my snapped fibula.i had to have two operations together , the second part of the surgery was ankle debridement with micro fracture because I took a chunk of cartlidge out of my ankle joint all at the same time when I partially displaced the ankle socket . I done this in November last year and it looks like I've got to have surgery again as I'm still getting ankle impingement which feels worse than ever and now when I weight bare the whole of my ankle joint aches terribly which gets worse through the day I'm worried that it's worse than what it was before surgery has anyone had any similar experiences as I'm trying to keep positive , I ended up with blood lots in my leg because of prolonged use of airboots and casts this has been going on since march 2011

Jul 26, 2012
To: Adri NEW
by: Julie

How old are you? I had trouble with heels most of my adult life, (flat feet) but now it would be most impossible. I can't even stand on my toes anymore, my left foot has no give, or support. But, I am 54. Also, it depends on if and when, you have your hardware removed. I will not have mine removed, unless I guess I ever have replacement done. All I can tell you is I had no idea when I broke my ankle that my life would change so drastically, and that it would never be the way it used to be again, but there it is. You learn to accept, and adapt to new ways of doing things. I will hope for the best for you.

Jul 26, 2012
Broken ankle with 12 pins NEW
by: adri

Thank you for sharing your experiences.. I shattered my ankle on June 9th ;-( worst day of my life!! had surgery 4 days after one plate and 12 pins now I am on a hard cast and going to the doctors tomorrow to remove it and see what the next step! I am a person that was always in high heels thats all I own.. soo many people are telling me that I will never be able to wear them again. .can this be true?

this is sooo depressing.

Jul 25, 2012
Pain in the ankle NEW
by: Mark

had open reduction internal fixation and at the same time ISP had ankle anthroscopy which included deridement and micro fracture to replace the cartlidge I had torn out of the ankle joint the metal plate and 7screws aren't to bad but still in pain after 18mths just had another MRI as I might need further surgery has anyone had a similar or going through anything like this

Jul 21, 2012
Thank you NEW
by: Tera

Thank you Roanna! I know I'll make it, but at 50 I just don't heal as quickly as I used to :(
The no weight bearing is frustrating, but I'm learning. The plate and 14 pins/screws help remind me to stay off it... And keeping the swelling down does seem to help with the pain.
I'm going to try and work some next week, only part time... We'll see how that goes :)
Again, thank you for being willing to share.
Tera

Jul 21, 2012
Pain NEW
by: RoannaO

Hi, Tera. The surgical pain for me lasted about one and a half weeks. I stayed on Percocet for the entire time. It was just too painful for me to bear on just Tylenol. I have had several surgeries, but this one was the most painful by far. Good luck to you.

Jul 21, 2012
Follow up NEW
by: Tera

One week since my accident, six days from surgery. Can someone let me know how long the pain goes on? I keep thinking each day will get better, but not so much. I am trying to only take Tylenol and seem to be able get through the day, but I'm struggling.
I did get the air cast on, which is better than the plaster.
I appreciate all of your stories, it is great to be able to see what to expect... Thank you!

Jul 19, 2012
To Grant NEW
by: Julie

Thanks for your encouragement. I have 10 years on you, so I hope that will be in my favor. I don't have the skills for most office jobs now either, so I am praying that they will see that and push me through. I will hope for you as well. You are so right that the ones that make the decisions need to put themselves in our position. Two years is way long enough to wait. Let me know how things go with your hearing as well.

Jul 19, 2012
Julie,, NEW
by: grant Jordan

i too have my final disability date coming up soon, after 3 years, and i AM AFRAID! , the reason is from what i am told, that if i was 50 years old, then it would be no problem, but im 44, and the courts might see me as still being able to work. the problem in that is that i have always done hard core outdoor labor, in which i cant do anymore. and i have no office experience, or real computer skills. soo no one will hire me for a sedentary job , with no experience in a office setting., soo, yeah, i am worried. but i hope that you make it, cause these people that make the decisions , have no idea on what we have gone through, and what we cannot do anymore, unless there in our shoes. soo, my hopes and prayers are with you, and i hope that everything works out ok for you.

Jul 19, 2012
Will Be 2 Years In September NEW
by: Julie

Hi all.

Thought I would send in an update of my own, as it is getting close to the second year since my break, and surgery. As I told on here, I lost my job as circulation clerk at the Library, and have been unemployed since. I am currently waiting on my August 28th disability hearing, and hoping for the best. I am also working with the BVR in hopes that they might help me with job placement, or at least part time placement. What no one knows who has not experienced this is it not only affects your physical being, it affects you emotionally, and alters everything that you were once able to do. Daily I struggle to keep my depression and anxiety from getting the best of me. I hope for better days for all of us. I am very glad I found this place to share my experiences, and read about others who have suffered as well.

Jul 19, 2012
Following Brenda's lead NEW
by: RoannaO

Well, it's been four months since I suffered a trimalleour fracture and dislocation of my left ankle. I had ORIF surgery on April 13, 2012, and I am now released to walk without a brace, cane, crutches, etc. I still use a cane to walk. When I walk I sway side to side. My achilles tendon and ankle joint are so tight that I cannot put my heel to the ground when sitting. I don't have much pain, unless I really work hard on flexibility exercises. I am trying to work on balance, but the fear of getting hurt again is holding me back. I feel much more hopeful today than I did even a week ago. I can feel the difference, however slight, and I can envision a positive outcome. If you come across this page after suffering the same injury, I hope you will not hesitate to all of us here. This page REALLY helped me out when I was first home from surgery. It gave me a realistic and hopeful view of what i was facing. Good luck to all. I will check back in in a couple of months with another update. Oh, and Brenda, can you tell me more about the exercises you are doing at home? Thanks so much. If you want to email me, my address is my name posted here at cox.net

Jul 19, 2012
18 months post break/8 months post hardware removal NEW
by: Brenda

Hello all,
I thought I would do an 18 month update. I won't go in to my whole injury as it is posted in early 2011 and several times after! But, wanted to update and hopefully give some hope to those of you out there that are currently going through this awful ordeal! I can say, without a doubt, that breaking my ankle; ORIF; & recovery were the WORST things I have ever been through in my life..........BUT, for the most part it is behind me! I still am very cautious & don't plan on doing a jump rope competition, but for the most part feel really good. There are still days that I have an ache in the ankle, but that has greatly improved since the hardware removal. I also had flash backs every time I closed my eyes for months after the injury, that has lessened over time also. I am fortunate that I have a spouse with a good job and was not pressured to go back to work, although I did TRY to go back to work too soon and hindered my progress.......BE CAREFUL!. I also chose to not do formal PT, but worked at it on my own at home with some instruction from my surgeon. I doubt if my ankle will ever be 100% back to where it was before, but I believe it is as good as it can be and for the most part I can do everything I did before the injury. Having said that, I am NOT a runner or very sportsy, so I won't miss that part like some of you will. Keep your chin AND YOUR LEG up! Ice is your friend! Don't turn down help!!! Good luck!

Jul 19, 2012
My injury NEW
by: Anonymous

Reading this string of posts... Well, now I'm really terrified. I fell off my bicycle Friday, July 13th... Finally went to urgent care Saturday and had surgery that afternoon, a plate, 14 pins/screws and two nights in the hospital later, I am finally home. I took this week off of work, and am hoping to go back next week. I do have a desk job and can work from home if I need to. I am in the surgical cast, I find out today what the next step is. Basically, this sucks, but after reading this you can bet I will be doing what the physical therapist says. Thank you all for sharing your stories!


Jun 22, 2012
been there, still am. NEW
by: Grant Jordan

just read the past 4 articles, i have been posting since 2009.
the reason for my posting now is, is the fact that i feel for anybody without disability INS. ,,, luckily i had that. thats the only thing that saved my butt ! , mine was a compound fracture, due to a motorcycle accident, in which both bones were exposed outside the skin, while sliding down the street, in which ground down the bones on the pavement to a quarter of an inch of what they were before. and yes they thought about amputation at the time of surgery.
My whole story is on here in recent posts, but way back.
so i know what you are going through, and i am very aware of your trials and tribulations, through this process ! , all i can say is ,, trust your therapist, and do exactly what they tell you, even if it hurts, and it (if done right) will hurt alot ! , but they helped me! , im still on disability, and probably will be for life, but , i have not given up hope, and am still positive that things will work out for the best. ,, so HANG IN THERE ! :-) it does get better ! :-)

Jun 22, 2012
Reply to at home work NEW
by: Heather

I will be lOking into that, thanks for the idea. I need to do something, that is for sure! I can't wait to be back to my nursing job, I really love what I do and miss it terribly. The only good thing about all of this is that I am spending the summer with my girls, I can't drive, but we have a good time here at home. I miss riding my horses too, we got rid of the bad horse, just have 2 good horses left. I just miss my active life, but I know I am getting closer to having it back. Thanks for the idea of working from home, I'm going to give it a try.

Jun 22, 2012
Two years in September NEW
by: Julie

Just an update on me, I found out just what my limitations really are last Sunday. I went to the zoo, which I love, with some family, and got a script for a new ankle brace with laces so I would have good extra support, and even with frequent sit breaks throughout the afternoon, by the time we were back at the car, I was near tears with relief. My ankle was swollen, and it took me pretty much two days to be able to walk with any normalcy. It saddens me still that I, who used to walk 4 miles or more daily, am reduced to this. But, there it is. I know you younger ones may have more hope of a normal life, but mine will likely never be the same.

Jun 22, 2012
At home work idea NEW
by: Anonymous

Hi, Heather. I am right there with you! I had a triamall with dislocation on 4/13/2012 I just started weight bearing in my ortho boot. Making good progress. Two more weeks and I graduate to an ankle brace. Have you thought of writing internet content? You could probably get some good work writing medical content. Try getting on with Textbroker or Constant Content. You can make a little money that way. Good luck. If you have questions my email is my name at cox.net. take care.

Jun 22, 2012
At home work idea NEW
by: Anonymous

Hi, Heather. I am right there with you! I had a triamall with dislocation on 4/13/2012 I just started weight bearing in my ortho boot. Making good progress. Two more weeks and I graduate to an ankle brace. Have you thought of writing internet content? You could probably get some good work writing medical content. Try getting on with Textbroker or Constant Content. You can make a little money that way. Good luck. If you have questions my email is my name at cox.net. take care.

Jun 22, 2012
5 weeks post orif NEW
by: Heather

I am 29 years old, a married mother of 3 young girls (ages 6, 3, and 1), and I also a nurse (just graduated August 2011) and just started my job in march. On May 16, 2012, I was riding a horse and went to get off beorif it was rearing a ton and as I put my left foot on the ground it reared again and came down on my left foot causing me to lose my balance and fall. He then reared again and flipped over on his back and landed on my right leg, I heard it snap (worst sound ever). I was laying there and my husband and kids came out nd got the horse and helped me to the car. I took off my boot and knew it was bad. I had X-rays and found out it was tri mallelor fracture and dislocated. They put it back in place and transferred me to another hospital. I got surgery on may 18th 6 screws and a playe on the roght side and wire on the other side. I went home on May 20 still having severe pain and in a half cast. I kept that on for a week and went back where they did more X-rays and put me in a walking boot but NWB and removed my steri strips. They told me to start exercising my ankle to help with cartilage production. I do the exercises 3 or more times a day. I went back last week (4 weeks post op) and they did more X-rays and checked my ROM and said my bones were healed, but still NWB until I go back on July 10. Still off of work because I do home care and can't drive. I'm eager to get back to work. My husband is working as much as he can, but it's not enough to cover our bills. I need to work!!! Hope I can go back in July, I am going to do whatever I can to get back to work. I miss riding and miss running after my girls. I'm off norco, but I am having a terrible time sleeping, not because of pain, just can't sleep. I'm feeling great, other than not sleeping and not walking, but I am pain free, with the exception of minor aching. I feel lucky to have a wonderful husband and an amazing family that have been helping with the kids and some bills. I'm only per diem at my work, hut work 40 hours, but I have no disability insurance. I have great medical insurance through my husband, so that's a blessing. I'm just eager to be normal again and I know I am almost there. My mom bought tickets to Toby Keith and Miranda lambert for August 20, so I'm hoping to be walking by then and back to work, I know I can do it!!!!! Good luck to everyone and any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

May 27, 2012
Had ankle orif surgery six mths ago NEW
by: Mark

I had ankle orif surgery 6moths ago, ibroke my right fibula near the talus and done 2 other fractures with a dislocation at the same time, I am now in wk 3 of rehab physio but I cannot weight loss bare on it when I try to and squat down its so painfully and it feels like it's going to give way is this normal could anyone help me on this as I'm thinking of ringing my physiotherapist up for advise

May 26, 2012
To: Lucky to be alive NEW
by: Julie

Hi, it is 2 years in September that I had my tib/fib fracture, from which I lost my job. I am still unemployed, and am fighting for disability. I have severe post traumatic osteoarthritis. You must accept that you may never regain the same amount of activity you once had. I walked several miles a day before, now I use a stationary bike, it is all I can do, or swim, if I get the chance. Depressed? You bet. But you have to make your own new reality. Hope things get better for you soon, but you must rest, rest, rest.

May 25, 2012
take it easy NEW
by: Beth

I am just about 14 months out from my surgery. I still audfer daily pain which may or may not be attributed to the screw break that happened a few months ago. Sorry to hear such a heartbreaking story. When I went back after my months of initial recovery, my surgeon said my healing was remarkable. I just wanted to comment on what I did to speed the recovery. First of all, rest. As hard as that may be it is absolutely necessary. You will never recover from an injury if you keep re-injuring. Take calcium supplements daily- my choice Viactiv chewables. I also had an extremely strict diet while recovering. I incorporated fat free yogurt almost daily and cut out all processed foods. Staples were vegetables all times of the day, mostly greens. I also added fruits and only lean proteins (chicken & fish). I actually lost weight while I was lying around all the time! I also tapered myself off of the pain medications (OxyContin & Dilaudid) after about a week home from surgery because it made me so nauseous 24/7 I would rather deal with the pain. Getting off of them was the best thing for me I felt 10000x better. Maybe look into picking up a hobby that allows you to stay resting while keeping you busy. Hope you find something because a sports club sounds like a bad idea at the moment!

May 25, 2012
Lucky to be alive... NEW
by: Cameron

So sorry to hear about your accident... You can read what happened to me in one of the above posts... I have been doing a lot of things revolving around the t.v. and computer... I aswell was a very active person who is still having a hard time sitting still, however, I like to golf so I bought a golf game until I can hit the course... I hate reading so I am working on writing a book on the pros and cons of my accident... It taught me the meaning of life for the first time in a long time... As for the money side of it, the insurance company for the motorcycle should reemburse you for expenses and detrement... Call a lawyer... if you haven't already... I am on workers compensqtion until I can get back but this is giving me the time to create a home based company so I have another stream of income... I hope this helps anyway it can... Remember to take your vitamin D, tortilla chips, and hydrotherapy... Oh yah, narcotic pain killers stop your body from producing adrenaline, which is its natural pain killer... When I came off of oxycodone I felt pain for aproximatly 2 days, then it became bearable enough to only take T3's at night so I could sleep... Red beats produce NitricOxide which creates very fast muscle growth and rejuvinates the tendons elasticity... You can e-mail me anytime to keep in touch through our recoveries... CNWCLARK at TELUS.NET

May 25, 2012
really having a hard time NEW
by: Anonymous

on jan 1st i decided go for a motorcycle ride with my then boyfriend. he ended up losing control control of the bike. i was thrown 100ft and suffered an open tib/fib fracture. numerous lacerations, and a full ligament and tendon repair on the fractured leg. Even though all my surgeons said i'd never be able to keep the leg, i still have it. Its pretty useless still. i had a muscle graft, and a skin gtaft. I was in great shape before this, i hiked 3miles a day and had a physically demanding job.Its almost 6 months since the accident, i over do it daily, reinjure myself because its driving me nuts not to be outside doing stuff. I have about a 3in non union of the long bone at the current time. I had a bone graft done about a month ago and that was very painful. ive spent 4 out of the last 5 mo in the hospital battling a bone infection. My drs are all telling me 2 years is what my expected recovery time is. id like to think my condition is a little more hopeful than that. taking narcotic pain medication is depressing me more and more daily but unfortunately the pain is too great not to. last week i joined a fitness club with a theraputic pool and yoga classes jus so i have a reason to get out. So the first time at the club i overdid it to the point where any amount of weight on the leg is extremely painful. Im just wondering if there are any tips for learning to patiently wait for my body speed to once again meet my minds speed? After not working for the last 5mo my savings is about depleted, i cant receive unemployment because im not capable of full time work, and the disability debate is still going on. Sum days i think this is a horrible nightmare that im jus waiting to wake up from.

May 03, 2012
TO ALL NEW ORIF PATIENTS NEW
by: Grant Jordan

i havent posted in quite a while, but still do read the comments, and yes, "HAVE BEEN THERE DONE THAT" ! , you can read my post's by going back in the threads, but don't want to go all into again, cause its too painful to think about.
That brings me to the new post, which said that he/she, had nightmares, and yes i still do!. whenever you go through a traumatic experience like this you will have re-occuring dreams, and "flashbacks" of the incident. and yes it sucks ! , after 4 years now i still have them, and yes i still have pain, and yes it is only supposed to get worse through time , with age and arthritis , and scar tissue building up in the joint. i wish i could say something positive, but i deal in reality, and the reality is ,is that this aint over, nor it will be for alot of us, but on a more positive note, YOUR NOT ALONE! , please hang in there, and do whatever it takes to get better, and trust in the medical process. i hope this helps, and know that you have alot of people out there that will help, when you need an ear, or just someone to listen.

Apr 30, 2012
Friday the 13th NEW
by: RoannaO

I have been reading about everyone's experiences and feeling a bit sorry for myself. I am on Week 3 of my ORIF adventure and not happy. I feel traumatized and I wonder when I will stop feeling like all my bones could snap any minute. I am having 'Nam-like flashbacks everytime I doze off or daydream. I am terrified that this would ever happen again. I am not even close to finishing healing this injury and I am obsessed with the next. I am a high-speed Court Reporting student, and I had to drop out of my last three weeks of this semester. That means I cannot graduate at the end of the year as planned. That bites. I am uninsured and just waiting for the bills to come rolling in. The world suddenly feels frightening. I feel like I am mentally breaking down. I was in a surgical cast and wrap for two weeks and am now in an orthotic boot with no weight bearing for three more weeks. If there is anyone out there that wants to chat and share each other's pain my email is my name listed for this post at cox.net.

Mar 26, 2012
Lucky To Be Alive... NEW
by: Cameron

Thanks for the support and the knowledge of knowing that others are going through the same thing I am right now... The hardest thing to live with is that I have a limited amount of things I can do, as I am the type of person to always be active and never sitting around... I am however getting my high school diploma as well as looking at different opportunities in life as a career... The drop made me realize that there is more to life than just construction, so I am going to utilize the WCB(workers compansation board) to pay my way through university to become either a Paramedic or IT Data Installer... Things that I actualy have a passion for... I am sorry to hear that your insurances are ending soon but can only suggest to look at things that you don't need two feet to accomplish, depending on where you reside and what there is to offer... If it is an on-the-job injury, there may be legal opportunities for you as it is no doubt a life long injury... That's what I am planning on doing when I am better... 2 million liability... I will never have the same balance, mobility, and comfort as before and someone has to pay for that...

Thanks for the sugestion of tortila chips, I love them as well... Expecially when I am watching sports... Thankfully, I have a loving wife who is looking after me when she has time off, but when she is at work, my other leg is sure getting a major work out from all of the hopping around as we live in a two story house...

P.S. If you have any other suggestions on how to make this speedy, let me know... My e-mail is cnwclark@telus.net...

Sincerely, Cameron

Mar 26, 2012
what makes it heal faster? NEW
by: Anonymous

You are so right. You can't bear weight and it stays swollen. I hope you have someone taking care of you. I did not. I had to crawl up the stairs like a baby and for a minute I could not get in my bed. Keep your leg elevated even if it gets uncomfortable and eat lots of vegetables and take plenty or eat plenty lysine. This vitamin is major with bone healing. One way to eat lysine is tortilla chips. I love Doritos scoops. Nacho belle grande was on the menu all the time.

Mar 25, 2012
To Cameron NEW
by: Julie

First of all, ouch! And thankful nothing more serious happened. I, since my severe break of tib/fib and total dislocation, have been unemployed, waiting for a decision on a disability claim, am losing my unemployment in another week, and pretty much have had my life turned upside down due to this. I had issues before the break, and am now 54, and have post traumatic osteo arthritis, which will only worsen. I have very little mobility and flexibility with my left ankle. It still swells if I am on it much at all. I hope you have a better prognosis. Keep positive, and do your therapy. I had no insurance, so even that was lacking for me.

Mar 25, 2012
Lucky To Be ALIVE... NEW
by: Cameron

Good day to all who are suffering in the excrusiating pain that a compression fracture/dislocation of the talus has to offer...

Well, I guess I'll start off with how the injury occured and then the processes of the recovery...

As a career, I choose residential framing contractor. For 14 years I had zero major injuries or breaks, that is until March 11, 2012 when we were building/standing the roof trusses on the second floor walls... As we were standing the end-gable with our crane, it broke in two pieces, knocking myself as well as my co-worker off of the wall... I fell a total of 26-28 feat directly on my left foot, compressing my ankle bones up into my tib-fib, dislocating my talus and tearing all the cartelidge... I was fully immobilized and rushed by ambulance to the ER where I recieved a full body CT scan and X-Rays... Luckily, I only suffered the ankle injury, as the doctors tell me it is a miracle to be alive... By the way, the other guy is OK, he was pinned by the end-gable to the house and was saved from falling the full distance...

So, I was put in surgury for a plate and 6 screws with two very ugly looking cuts on top of my foot... I had a half-back cast(hard back/soft front) for 1 week, then x-rays and a hard fiberglass cast to my knee, until my next check-up... The doctor says that I am on zero load bearing for 3 months, then 3 more months with little load bearing, then the cast comes off with another 3 months physio... If you can tell me what I am to expect in the next months for pain and feeling I would apreciate it...

P.S. Smoking extremely limits blood flow to the talus(don't let it die), and vitamin D 1000IU promotes fast bone growth...

Thanks To All With A Speady Recovery...

Mar 24, 2012
Sledding Accident- ORIF Right Ankle NEW
by: College Kid

So it all started on March 1st 2012, my girlfriend some buddies and myself took off to a hill on the college and were sledding, on the last run I decided to ride double with my roommate off a small jump...Well when we landed my foot was under the sled taken the weight of my roommate and myself, causing dislocation, and break in my TIB/FIB. Not going to lie worst pain of my life, I've torn my shoulder out and had surgery on my shoulder to repair a torn Labrum and rotator cuff, and I thought that was bad. As I lay there waiting with University police and friends I can see everyone's look on their face of just almost disgust with how nasty it look and that hit me hard, knowing that if no one is taken pictures it's got to be bad. I was taken by ambulance to the ER were I was slightly sedated and they reset the dislocation I was wide awake for this but can not remember anything still. The next step was meeting with the surgeon and surgery the following day March 2nd 2012. I was nervous as all hell not going to lie, I went into surgery and came out about 2 hours later with in all 8 screw in the plate, one long horizontal screw between the TIB and FIB and 2 long screws supporting the weight bearing bone. I'm 23 years old and have always been able to walk, after the surgery I realized I was unable to do anything on my own, this was devastating being a part time working and full time Civil Engineering student. The pain was tremendous the first week, and also the second week. I met with my surgeon 14 days after surgery had my post surgery bandages and split taken off, x-rays done, and a hard cast set in place. I am none weight bearing for 5 more weeks. On April 30th I have the longest of the screws removed, and I will be giving a walking boot. I have been lucky in that I have paid for accidental insurance for something like this on top of my regular insurance. I have had to take a leave from my job, but am able to qualify for Short term disability. Something a lot of people haven't wrote a lot about is that you will need to relay almost 100% on someone to help take care of you through out this process, if I didn't have the love,and caring of my girlfriend and family I would be forced to drop out of school and I'm deep into the college loans being a junior almost senior now..Life's not easy with this and this is just my story I wanted to share because if this hasn't happened to you people just don't understand what you go through. It can be a very emotional experience that no one should have to deal with alone. My advice to anyone is have a support system, someone to help take care, give you a good laugh to pass the time, the pain will go away and it does improve. I'm only 3 weeks post surgery/accident and my improvement is by far going good, pain is no longer there at all, and swelling is almost gone. Good luck to everyone sorry my post is so long just have a lot of time on my hands lately!

Mar 24, 2012
Sledding Accident- ORIF Right Ankle NEW
by: College Kid

So it all started on March 1st 2012, my girlfriend some buddies and myself took off to a hill on the college and were sledding, on the last run I decided to ride double with my roommate off a small jump...Well when we landed my foot was under the sled taken the weight of my roommate and myself, causing dislocation, and break in my TIB/FIB. Not going to lie worst pain of my life, I've torn my shoulder out and had surgery on my shoulder to repair a torn Labrum and rotator cuff, and I thought that was bad. As I lay there waiting with University police and friends I can see everyone's look on their face of just almost disgust with how nasty it look and that hit me hard, knowing that if no one is taken pictures it's got to be bad. I was taken by ambulance to the ER were I was slightly sedated and they reset the dislocation I was wide awake for this but can not remember anything still. The next step was meeting with the surgeon and surgery the following day March 2nd 2012. I was nervous as all hell not going to lie, I went into surgery and came out about 2 hours later with in all 8 screw in the plate, one long horizontal screw between the TIB and FIB and 2 long screws supporting the weight bearing bone. I'm 23 years old and have always been able to walk, after the surgery I realized I was unable to do anything on my own, this was devastating being a part time working and full time Civil Engineering student. The pain was tremendous the first week, and also the second week. I met with my surgeon 14 days after surgery had my post surgery bandages and split taken off, x-rays done, and a hard cast set in place. I am none weight bearing for 5 more weeks. On April 30th I have the longest of the screws removed, and I will be giving a walking boot. I have been lucky in that I have paid for accidental insurance for something like this on top of my regular insurance. I have had to take a leave from my job, but am able to qualify for Short term disability. Something a lot of people haven't wrote a lot about is that you will need to relay almost 100% on someone to help take care of you through out this process, if I didn't have the love,and caring of my girlfriend and family I would be forced to drop out of school and I'm deep into the college loans being a junior almost senior now..Life's not easy with this and this is just my story I wanted to share because if this hasn't happened to you people just don't understand what you go through. It can be a very emotional experience that no one should have to deal with alone. My advice to anyone is have a support system, someone to help take care, give you a good laugh to pass the time, the pain will go away and it does improve. I'm only 3 weeks post surgery/accident and my improvement is by far going good, pain is no longer there at all, and swelling is almost gone. Good luck to everyone sorry my post is so long just have a lot of time on my hands lately!

Mar 10, 2012
Removal NEW
by: Beth (No Luck!)

Wow I am surprised you have done so well with removal- that is amazing! I was given the option to remove hardware if my range of motion was restricted & it has not been. Now, I am facing the realization that I might have to have it all taken out & have the ankle fused =[ I just don't understand how they tell you this is TITANIUM and a small-scale trip can break it??!! It just seems illogical. I'm too young for this- only 25! My uncle had a fusion done with the same large, very well known practice but he had to have it done due to arthritis. I don't know of any better orhapadeic practice in my area for a second opinion. I wonder if the placement was poor initially leading me to be vulnerable to a break? So confused! Well, I go Tuesday for the follow up to check alignment and pain level... Will keep you informed & if anyone else is going back for a BROKEN SCREW let me know!

Mar 09, 2012
14 months post ORIF/3 1/2 months post hardware removal NEW
by: Brenda

Hi all,

Just thought I would check in and update.......
I haven't been here for a while for 2 reasons.
1) I feel AWESOME since I had the hardware removed and I forget to check in.
2) Life is WAY too busy!

Anyway, I see a LOT of new people on here and thought I might give some hope! I broke my fib/tib and dislocated my talus on 1/15/11 when I slipped in the ice on my front step and had ORIF the same day.....a plate with 8 pins and 1 long screw (my bones were too small for the 2 the surgeon wanted to use!). I spent the first night in the hospital and they controlled the pain pretty well. I went home the next day with a "floating" cast and completely NWB. 2 weeks later the floating cast was replaced with a hard cast, still NWB. At 6 weeks the hard cast was removed and I had the "air" cast with WB as tolerated (which was VERY little!). By 10-11 weeks I was walking with a cane, but very slowly; painfully and cautiously. I did not do any formal PT, but did my own at home. I was doing well and not using a cane by about 20 weeks, but still had a lot of pain mostly coming from the hardware. In on 11/21/11 I had the hardware removed.......I felt better the day after the hardware removal than I did the day before! Now I am doing very well and only once in a while I feel a twinge of pain/discomfort where the origianl bread was. I wish the best for each and every one of you! I know that this was the hardest thing I ever had to go through (and I have been through quite a bit!). Accept any help offered; find a good book or watch a lot of TV; and take it only as fast as YOUR body/foot will let you! It is different for every person/every break!

Mar 08, 2012
6 weeks in... NEW
by: Anonymous

Hello all! So I fell 01/29/12 in my yard taking my dog out in the mud and broke my fib and tib in my right leg, I had ORIF on 2/3/12. Not too much pain, I think I tolerate it well. They didn't cast me at all, I was given an "aircast" boot to wear. I take it off to ice and bathe, and put it back on. My 2 week post-op Xray looked great, very minimal swelling, got staples out, and put the boot back on. I was told to start using my toes for balance in my right leg, and I could go back to work (office job), and come back in 4 weeks. Feels great to be back at work. But for those first two weeks it was hard, just propped it up and kept icing it. I'm being braver now and actually putting some weight on the entire foot or taking a "baby" step here and there with the boot on... I do stretches everyday a couple times on my ankle, as much as I can tolerate... Just hoping I am able to lose the boot and go to a brace or something so I can start driving again. I have been reading up on recovery time, etc... that's what brought me here. I'm hopeful that by April I can be using it more and walking in a tennis shoe at least! Good luck to all of you out there! (:

Feb 21, 2012
Response: NEW
by: Anonymous (sledding accident )

Thanks for the info on the time frame that u had. That kind of gives me an idea on what to look forward to. I hate that u lost ur job and are still unemployed from it. I hope things get better for u.
To the individual that broke the long screw in ur ankle I'm so sorry to hear of ur reinjury... I can't imagine having to go back into surgery after the experience I've had with this one... My ex mother in law had her wrist fused together and she said she would never had it done had she known how hard it would be to have no range of motion in her wrist. I'm assuming that an ankle fusion would be similar but not positive on that. I would defiantly do some research on it before I fully decided to go through with it. I wish u the best and keep us posted.
As for me today the pain seems a little better. Still having to get up to go to the restroom or anything is a nightmare. I'm still non weight bearing with crutches but when that blood flow hits my ankle I am instantly nauseated. And usually the result ends in me throwing up. It's been very depressing as I am an active person and very independent so relying on others has been so difficult for me.

Feb 21, 2012
No Luck NEW
by: Julie

Wow, sorry to hear about your new injury. I am being super careful because of the fact I do not want that to happen to me. My flexibility is really bad anyway, so I am slow and careful on steps, etc. Take care, and keep us informed. Ankle fusion is not something I ever want to have to get, as then you basically have no flex at all in the ankle.

Feb 21, 2012
Back again!!! NEW
by: No Luck

Hello again all! Wow I didn't think that not even a year from my original post I'd be reposting with a "new injury" (as per my chart at the orthopedic surgeon). I had fallen last Feb 2nd in NYC on ice, breaking my fibula into 3 pieces at the ankle joint. ORIF followed 3rd week of March. My recovery has been decent considering experiences I've heard. I returned to work after 6months & went back to NYC for work again in October. I was surprised to find that the 1.2mile walk to & from hotel-location was a breeze & was feeling strong. Not even a year out yet, I tripped over a bush stump in the dark while running out February 4th to get cucpcake ingredients for Super Bowl. It felt OK until I went to work and finished out my work week last Friday (40hrs on it). I called my ortho & made an appointment for the next week ASAP! I was in the office Tuesday (Happy Valentine's, here are a bunch of x-rays!) & was expecting him to say I sprained and give direction to rest/treat etc. Well I saw the X-ray on the computer screen before the Dr had come in and I *tried* not to freak but once he came in he was pretty blunt: The long screw going through fibula & tibia and literally broken in half. It's broken in the space between the two bones. Now, I had the choice of walking boot or lace up/strapped brace for 4 weeks to immobilize. I go back March 13th to see if there is any displacement or increase of pain. So far I am realizing much more pain. I'm dreading going under the knife again- I had a horrifying experience. However he says I may need to have the screw removed & have a fusion done. =[ Anyone else have this happen?!!!

Feb 20, 2012
To the newest February 2012 entry NEW
by: Anonymous

Hi, I am feeling for you, since I had the same injury, just different circumstances, in September, 2010. After my surgery, I was completely non-weight bearing for 3 full months. I had fallen the day after the break, before my surgery, because I couldn't maneuver with crutches, so I got a loaner wheelchair. I couldn't drive myself anywhere for 4 months. I lost my job, and have been unemployed since. I am now waiting on a decision for disability. It is tough, I used to be an avid walker, now I have to use a stationary bike for exercise. Hang in there. As for pain, it does get better, but as for flexibility, and getting around, is pretty much a person to person thing. I know many who have not been the same since their injury.

Feb 20, 2012
Open reduction surgery... Still in severe pain NEW
by: Anonymous

I am a 32 yr old female..My husband and I were sledding with our children last week when we had our first decent snow ( feb 13,2012) while my husband and I were sledding together we hit a hill that we thought the sled would go over but instead hit it like hitting a tree... My left foot was hanging over the end and hit the hill where it instantly snapped my Tibia, fibula, and talus bones in the ankle. Also dislocating it. The dr said the only thing that kept my foot attached to my leg was the skin. The initial pain was horrid. I was taken by ambulance to the Er where they reset it and scheduled surgery. Had surgery on Feb 15, 2012 where they put in 2 plates and 10 screws. Its been 5 days and I am still in horrible pain. I have spent every day in tears. Even with the pain meds the pain never goes away. They r planning to take the staples out and put on another cast in 3 days. With as much pain as I'm in now the thoughts of anyone touching it is so scary!!! Does anyone know when I can expect this pain to ease up any????

Jan 18, 2012
11 years ago NEW
by: Mary

Hello to all. broke my ankle 12/2000. Went from the ground at work to the operating room table. ORIF consisting of a plate 5 screws and a pin. I am a therapist and now walk by hip hiking just to get from point A to point B. Still have the stiffness and now I have pain in the hip of the fx ankle. I know that the hip hiking is bad and that is part of the reason for the hip pain. I still work as a therapist but no more 40 hrs or plus. I still lean up against walls when the pain comes. Unfortunately I dont know that the pain is there until my foot hits the floor and I am bearing wt to take the next step. I just keep putting one foot in front of the other and keep going. I hope and pray that no one suffers with this as long as I have.


May 03, 2011
Reply to Grant (EEOC)
by: Julie

Grant, I would check with them. I waited two months, and should have filed right away, but it wouldn't hurt to try. You might also see if there are any pro bono lawyers that might fight for you. Here in this little burg we don't seem to have such people, but in Florida there might be. I feel for you, for all of us. I had such deep depression when I was first injured. I was a person who used to walk daily 4 to 6 miles a day, and I feel like a part of me is gone I will never get back. Hang in there too, and thanks for the reply.

May 03, 2011
JULIE,,
by: grant Jordan

Well, Julie, that sounds like me, i dont know if you had read my previous comments or not but, i worked for Miami-Dade County, and they did the same thing to me, when i went to return to my "desk" job, they had informed me that they were transferring me to an outside labor job that consisted of alot of walking, jumping on and off of heavy equipment, running heavy equipment, and lifting and carrying heavy loads outside in 100 degree heat, (here in Fl) , i did try and attempt my new job, but could not perform as expected due to my accident. so under a doctors care i was put out of work again untill my ankle was healed again, by this time my FMLA leave time had run out and they told me to resign peacefully or be fired. i too went to the EEOC, and filed a complaint, but never submitted it due to the promise of the county that if there was a job that they could find for me i would be hired again for that position. so i did not want to "rock the boat" so to speak. but am now realizing that i should have filed, and also gotten a lawyer. i am still thinking of doing that, but dont know if it is too late now or not?
Good luck to you, and if you know of any info, please let me know, Thank You, Grant.

May 02, 2011
Also Lost My Job
by: Julie

Hi, I was reading through and was at least comforted that I am not alone in my forced unemployment. On 9/8/10, I was knocked down by my neighbor's dog tie out rope, and broke my ankle, fibula, tibula, complete dislocation. I was at that time only part time employed, with no insurance, so I was a basket case when I found I had to have surgery. I was non weight bering for 3 full months, then partial weight bearing. My paid time off ran out after the 3 months ended, and I was taken back to my job, but not in my department, from 1/12/11, to 2/5/11, after which my doctor cleared me to return, but with some restrictions. They opted to let me go. I have filed a complaint with the EEOC, but I don't know anything yet. I know I could do my job with just a bit of consideration, and am angry that I am now barely hanging on financially. I am behind in my lot rent and praying I won'b be evicted. I am still having some swelling, not a lot of pain, and some stiffness, but otherwise am willing to be at work. It is awful, and I am 53, so jobs are hard to find at this age.

Apr 19, 2011
False Alarm
by: Paula

I live on a sailboat 80% of the time, and I unfortunately hit some ice and fell on the boat ramp on Dec 10, 2010. I fractured my fibula only, but it was completely in two pieces. It seemed to be lined up well, so the Ortho thought it would probably fill in on its own. I started in the ?walking boot with crutches. I worked at it until I could use one crutch, and than a cane. He put me in a soft lace up brace at 4 weeks, and I went back to work at 5 weeks (sedendary job). Wow! I thought things were moving along ok. I love to work out and he had allowed me to go to the gym and use the bike, and then the eliptical machine. This helped a lot with my mood about the ordeal. Each time I was xrayed, the bone growth was not improving. I had a CT on March 19th that revealed a non-union fracture of the fibula. I still wasn't told I had to have the surgery, but declided with my living situation and active lifestyle, it needed to be fixed. The likelihood of a worse situation if I were to injure it again, was motivating to fix it. So now I am back out of work, and in week two of being off my foot again. I feel like I started all over again. I'm nervous about pushing the recovery too quick because I wonder if I pushed too quick to get back at it. I guess misery does love company, but I is nice to feel like I'm not the only one out here. I work for physicians, and I have so many times about this "little bone" I broke. I want to say "Have you ever broke yours? Its not a lot of fun". Best of luck to everyone, and I am so sorry to those of you that have had such long recoveries. Its very difficult not to be able to do what we want and need to do.

Apr 05, 2011
please share
by: Anonymous

hi, im 18yrs old. i met with an accident on the 9th of february,2011. A local taxi ran over my anlke and on reaching the hospital and x-ray, doc said i had bimalleolar fracture of my right ankle. they did ORIF and im not allowed to put pressure now for 2 months. but im really concerned if i wouln't be able to walk normally again without limping and will i be able to wear heels again? please if you you have any idea, please share with me. il be very grateful to you.

Apr 03, 2011
Reply to Brenda
by: Lucinda

I fell and broke my ankle Dec 29,2010,I was put in cast Jan 3 2011. I stay off foot for 4 weeks and I was put into another cast Jan 23 with a shoe on it. I was up and walking with 1 crutch after that. I just came out of cast last week in March and now I have a boot. I have not gone to PT and the Doc says its healing very good. I am 57 yrs and was told it will be a long time healing. Congratulations on getting to one crutch. Its a journey getting there. Much love and encouragement to others that have goned through something like this. You don't have to have the surgery but just being immobile when you are used to being on your feet and the pain you have to go through is awful.

Apr 03, 2011
Reply to Grant
by: Lucinda

I broke the fibula and the tibia Dec 29th. I was told no weight bearing and I am a salesperson. I walk territories. Since the injury I could not work
and my land lady was nice enough to let me stay without paying rent. I still owe her and working on that. I tried calling places that help with the rent but no avail. I now sell Krispy Kreme doughnuts on Thursday, Friday, and Saturdays. I don't have to do a lot of walking as I am now in a boot. I ride public transportation so most of the time people see and buy. I am in school online getting my PHD in IT. The pell grant helps out a lot. I also do now Prepaid Legal. Its hard to get income when you don't have anybody to help you and the company is being a bitch. I suggest starting your own business and work from home. The pain people like us are going through is enough without being discriminated against.
I'm slow getting customers but I'm out there trying because so many people won't help or they can't help you. I suggest again to find something you like to do as a hobby and turn it into a cash cow or business. The government will give you money to start a business also. Funny how you get smarter when you become disabled.
Does the stinging mean it's healing? I move around a lot cause being at home give's me cabin fever. I feel the pain everyone is going through. I did'nt have to have the surgery but I was close.
Still I am 57 years and the bones are taking a long time to heal. I just came out of the cast 2 weeks ago. I hope this comment helps somebody. Welfare only gives just a bit and it's not enough. I barely get by but I'm working on it and I will succeed and so will you.

Mar 21, 2011
Graduated to 1 crutch!
by: Brenda

Hello, just thought I would update my progress to date. For a little background, I am 47 and have a very physical part time job loading airplanes. I have not been able to return to work since my break/surgery on the 15th of January. It has been a very long couple months!

I had surgery within a couple of hours of breaking the fib/tib/talus. I spent 1 night in the hospital and came home on the 16th with a "floating" hard cast. After 2 weeks with that they removed it, x-rayed it and put a hard cast on, which I wore for another 4 weeks.......so 6 weeks NO weight bearing at all. They the fitted me for an air cast which I have been wearing for 3 weeks and have another 5 days to go before another check-up. I am now able to walk (very slowly and a little wobbly) with only one crutch. I am hoping that by the time I go to the doctor on Friday I am able walk without the boot! I can tell you that it is painful to start doing ROM and walking exercises, but you have to push through it in order to regain your range of motion and strength. I have not done any "formal" PT. The surgeon told me when I got the air boot that depending on how I do with my own PT there may or may NOT be a need for PT....I guess time will tell.
Keep your chin (and your foot) up!
Brenda

Mar 20, 2011
RE: Manhattan
by: Grant Jordan

you can expect about 8-12 weeks depending, on how you recover, everybody is different, if you read my post comments , you'll know what ive been through , you might be different, and recover alot sooner, it all depends on your therapy, and body.
i feel your pain, trust me its not easy, there are times where i wanted to give up, and other times where i said, i will beat this ! , for me it was very painful, because of the scar tissue that they "the rehab" people had to break threw, but in the end it helped me . i wish you the best of luck, and if i could say anything, it would be stick to it, no matter how bad the pain is, no matter, how you dread it, it pays off in the end.

please feel free to write, any time, im here and can help.

Grant Jordan.

Mar 20, 2011
Manhattan
by: Anonymous

No good story here. Manhattan did me dirty with a good ice storm on a business trip 2/2/11. The ER said I'd need an aircast, so ORIF was a shocker. Surgery was 2/24/11 leaving me with a plate in the fib along with 5 screw & 1 in the tib. I'm 3 weeks out from surgery & go back in 3 weeks to find out if I'll move forward to a weight bearing cast. When do I expect to be "normal"? My job is usually an 8hr shift on my feet non-stop, overtime some days. Some posts mention short recovery, others longer. Now is usually the time I spend bouncing back into shape from the holidays for summer and I'm couch bound instead. =[

Mar 05, 2011
I feel your pain!!!
by: Retired Marine

I broke my ankle in 2 spots (tib & fib) during combat training. A plate with 6 screws were placed in surgically. I was bed rested for 3wks and it was painful. Had therapy sessions shortly after & that sucked as well. Thankfully I was walking somewhat normal 5mths later. Now 2yrs down the road one of the screws decided to shift pinching a nerve on top of foot. I just had another surgery last week & all hardware was taking out. As of right now I'm bed rested for 2wks & the major pain I'm dealing with is the actual incision itself(surgeons had to cut directly over last scar). This time around the cut hurts & feels like constant bee stings. Im starting to walk with my crutches & I believe I'll be on my own in a few days here. Note to my fellow friends with similar problems, stay strong it can get better if you yourself just try. Don't baby it, tell yourself you will get better.

Feb 23, 2011
Bone stimulator
by: Anonymous

I posted recently about my husbands injury. He has been using a bone stimulator for about 3 months daily. He has some pretty large non unions in one of the bones in his lower leg underneath the plate. Has anyone else had experience with these stimulators. The last time we were at the doc there was some shading starting to show up in that area, but the bone growth seems so slow. He is full weight bearing and the doc says it may take a year for that bone to develop. Just wondering if anyone else is trying this type of therapy as well.

Feb 22, 2011
reply, to Jimbo, and anonymous
by: grant Jordan

What can i say? ive been through the same thing, i hoped that i helped, giving words of encouragement, to others, that have gone through the same thing, to anonymous, i hope that you will recover, the same as Jimbo, ive been there done that, all i can say is that after my surgery , and after, 6 months of REHAB, I could stand and walk, but dont be fooled, it took alot of pain, and determination, to get through it, but please to both of you, GO THROUGH IT !, its worth it in the end, yes its painful, and yes its annoying, having to keep your appointments, cause you're not looking forward to them, but you have got through the worst, your still alive!,
and breathing, and, can still contribute to society, even though your "limp" may be permanent, like mine is, it doesn't matter, cause you made it through, and can still function.
please, if i can be of help and can give emotional support, i am here, i know what your going through, and would like to help, im not religious, nor do i want money, i am here because, of my accident, and the people that share the same thing!, please contact me at gjordan

Feb 22, 2011
open reduction/deltoid ligament
by: Jimbo

Broke my fibula and tore the deltoid lig on 1/24/11. 1 plate,13 screws and a full leg cast to the groin. Cast comes off tomorrow and replaced with a knee high fiberglass cast. Can anyone tell me what the short term looks like? Thanks!

Feb 21, 2011
Ankle Fracture
by: Anonymous

I was in a car accident and suffered an open ankle fracture. I had external/interal fixation for almost 8 weeks. I lost all the cartledge in my ankle and I was told that I was going to have a stiff walk. I have plates and screws in my ankle I wore a cast for about 2 weeks and after the cast came off, I was put in a boot. I am now doing physical therapy and I don't want to rush it because I am afraid something will mess up. I just want to be able to have a normal walk. This was this worst thing I have ever had to deal with and I don't wish this on anybody. I pray that everything heals ok and I am able to live normal. To everyone that is suffering with this type of injury or any type of ankle/leg fracture. I wish you luck and pray everything works out for you.

Feb 17, 2011
Husband has same injury
by: Grant Jordan

i hope the best for your husband, it sounds like he has a tough job. What does he do for a living?

all i can tell you is that it will only get worse due to the fact that he has SCAR TISSUE, built up in that area, and the more he inflates it, the more pain he will be in.

i was in the same situation, i too had a job that required alot of walking up and down hills and rough terrain, not to mention jumping off tractor trailers.

not good!

Feb 17, 2011
Husband has same injury
by: Anonymous

My husband had a similar injury on October 3, 2010. Compound fracture with leg broken in 8 places. He has a plate and 14 screws that will remain in his lower leg. He ended up having 3 surgeries and has been in PT ever since. He is back working and has a physical job that requires a lot of walking up and down rough terrain. He is very determined but the stiffness is about to get the best of him. It has been 4 and 1/2 months since his injury. If anyone knows anything that would help the stiffness in that joint please help.

Feb 08, 2011
reply
by: Grant Jordan

To :More pain now than before??/

your going to be out of service for quite a while, not knowing if your weight bearing or not and if you started therapy , and how your progressing all depends on how fast you can recover.
i was out for aprox 6 months, then again for another 3 months after the second surgery, but everybody is different.

i too could no longer perform my job functions at work and was asked to resign in good standing, so that if something did come up that i could do i would be rehired.
but now i am receiving LT disability INS, plus unemployment payments, and am required to look for 30 jobs every two weeks that are documented and sent in in order to continue receiving money. i hope this helps, Good Luck !

Feb 08, 2011
More pain now than before??/
by: Anonymous

I fractured the fib/tib/talus and had ORIF on 1/15/11. Spent 2 weeks in a "floating" cast and now another week and half or so in the hard cast. I spend most of my time laying down with my "toes above my nose" as instructed. I hate the narcotics like percocet & vicodan and have gone to tylenol 3 with codeine and advil for pain management. It seems to work fairly well and the pain is bearable (for the most part) during the day, but for the past 3 nights I have woke up in incredible pain (the most I have experienced throughout the process)to the point of tears. Is this normal at this stage of the game? And, how long can I expect to be a non-productive member of society?
I would really like to keep my job, but I am not able to perform MOST of the requirements of the job......my co-workers have been fantastic about covering my shifts, but not sure how long that will last. I have no disability insurance and my husband makes too much for us to get any help with the loss of my income. Rambling now.......
It would be great to get some input from some who have been through it!

Jan 24, 2011
to :Anonymous
by: grant Jordan

i live in Miami, FL. and i had really good INS, through Miami-Dade County Parks and Recreation. i worked there for 6 years, and was vested, thats how i can get long term DIs INS
I am very lucky, and thankful, to have had that.

Jan 24, 2011
open reduction, internal fixation surgery
by: Anonymous

This is to Grant regarding unemployment and disability. What state are you in? I have had the exact same surgery as you had and the state of Missouri will do absolutely nothing for me except for food stamps. Please let me know. It looks like we had the same injury about the same time and recovery about the same as well. I'm older than you, however. Please comment. Thanks

Jan 24, 2011
open reduction, internal fixation surgery
by: Anonymous

This is to Grant regarding unemployment and disability. What state are you in? I have had the exact same surgery as you had and the state of Missouri will do absolutely nothing for me except for food stamps. Please let me know. It looks like we had the same injury about the same time and recovery about the same as well. I'm older than you, however. Please comment. Thanks

Jan 23, 2011
unemployed?
by: Grant Jordan

to all that have been unemployed due to your injury,
Well i have now been officially unemployed now for 3 months, and receiving disability compensation, i have applied for food stamps, and barley getting by, due to my injury which has kept me from accepting just any job that has come down the road.
i am now looking for a sedentary job, which i can perform, and would get me off the "welfare" i do not want to be in this status, nor do i want to be a person that is reliant on the government for help. but it is hard to find a job that is a "desk" job after your whole life has been one that is physical in nature. i am looking and updating my resume to highlight the office type of work that i have done, and with any luck will succeed in finding work for people with a disability like i have.
but enough about me and my problems, LOL, i hope that all who is going through an injury like this will overcome and excell, and find a new way of life in whatever you have done in the past , if you cannot do what you did before. my thoughts and prayers, and understanding are with you.
Grant.

Jan 23, 2011
Replying to Grant Jordan
by: Gene

I also have been 'asked' to resign. I had the ORIF surgery on Nov 15 for a tri break of my left ankle. I have not worked long enough at the company to collect disability or if I resign- unemployment.
I even received a rude phone call reminding that the company spent a lot of money training me.
Believe me, I would much rather be working than healing from this broken ankle.........

Dec 20, 2010
thanks !
by: grant Jordan.

thank you all for all your comments, im sorry i haven't posted in a while , since the injury i have been , laid off or " forced to resign" because of my injury, ( which sucks ) !, i have gone to the EEOC, and fair trade employment practices,
but to no avail, now im without insurance, and i don't know what im going to do, i cannot fulfill my duties in my job anymore because of my DISABILITY, so therefore they have made me resign , in order to keep in good standing with the dept. ( it's very complicated).

All i know is please, whoever you are that is going through the same thing that i am, please tell me, i have a lot of info on the matter, and can help you, right now," MY ONLY GOAL IS TO HELP OTHERS IN MY SITUATION, " so please contact me via my email address at gjordan305@aol.com. i will be here to help you, i don't want anything, no money, no information, no anything, my only goal is is to help out,the same people that have gone through the same thing what i have, and have been discriminated against like i have . Im am not a lawyer or an EEOC ADVOCATE , but i know a lot on the matter of discrimination and on personal disabilities , so, if you have gone through the same injury, and have a lot of questions, not only legal, but what im in for next, (MEANING YOU HAVE JUST GONE THROUGH SURGEY AND HAVE A SERIOUS CONDITION WITH YOUR ANKLE OR FOOT?) then please write to me ,
thank you,
Grant m Jordan.

I AM HERE TO HELP !

Dec 20, 2010
It's a journey
by: Anonymous

Broke both the fib and the tib in August the bone came through the skin. I then had the 4 hr open reduction surgery awake because I was also 9 months pregnant! The doctor implanted the plate with 8 screws and the two screws on the side.
I went through some massive bouts of depression. The pain killers and other meds they prescribe just add to this! So I made it my job to get off them. Not only for myself, but for my little one born just two weeks after.
It's now December and it still hurts everyday! However, I recommend using it as much as you can once the doctor clears you for weight baring. Do all the physical therapy you can and do those exercises, trace the alphabet with your foot everyday I challenge myself, but I don't over do it. PT says it will be sore, well extra sore since it's already hurting, but not so bad that it continues 24 hrs after PT.
I can almost walk perfect, sometimes I have a slight limp, walking down stairs is still a challenge and I'm working on balance. It's not easy, but don't give up!! Good luck everyone!

Sep 20, 2010
broken ankle
by: Anonymous

I came off a horse in july and now have a plate and 8 screws in my ankle. i am close to having full movement in the ankle and have been in my walking boot for a week. but where i shattered bone, i have been told that this has still not re grown, but to partially weight bear. would love some real answers as i have a physical job that i am desperate to get back to. as well as wanting to get back on my horse

Jul 13, 2010
surgery blows but its faster than u think
by: Anonymous

I have a plate and 7 screws in my ankle. I almost already have full mobility back and i have only had a walkin boot for about 2 and a half weeks. I think ur recovery time depends on ur age i am 18 i will heal faster than a 45 year old bc my body is growin anyways. But i do agree after surgery i went crazyyy!!! But the doctor was very impressed by how much the swelling had gone down. A loose cast is a good sign bc that means the swelling is going down and u will be done with everything in no time i broke mine may 7 and now its august 13 i go back today to figure out how much longer i have my boot on for. But best of luck to everyone. and if u can avoid breakin ur ankle trust me avoid it..

Jun 29, 2010
In the same boat.........
by: Anonymous

Hi their a week ago I "missed" a step and fell on my ankle. I too went in for open reduction internal fixation surgery of my left ankle. I am thankful to hear their are others going through what I am. I have never felt so discomfort or pain in my life. I am finding it hard to stay upbeat and was happy to find a site where their are others going through the same thing I am. Its impossible to be comfortable and sleep is almost non existent. Can anyone tell me how long I am in the non weight bearing cast? At what point does physio therapy begin? When does the pain and discomfort start to subside? Any info would be great as alot of sites dont go into alot of detail.

May 25, 2010
I feel your pain
by: Anonymous

In April I was walking down my steps in a pair of flip flops when one of them broke. I fell down the steps but the broken flop got caught on the stair pulling my foot up behind me. This resulted in a broken ankle. I broke both sides of my ankle, dislocated it, and split my fibula about 2inches up. I had the same surgery May 3rd, a plate with 8 screws on the outside & 2 screws on the inside. That is seriously the most painful surgery I've ever had. I was doing good at putting some weight on it, but I had to get a new cast yesterday and after all the movement, I'm back to not being able to put hardly any weight on it. It's those kind of set backs that are so discouraging. And the healing process is so slow. I hope you get better soon, because this sucks!

Jan 15, 2010
open reduction internal fixation right ankle
by: Anonymous

I had a very simialr motorcycle accident (July 2008) and about the same identical injury to my left foot. Yes, it almost took the foot off. My foot healed in the correct position, I went through months of physical therapy and worked very hard on my own to get back to something close to normal. Work hard. The pain will subside, but may never go completely away. I am doing things today that my therapists - any myself - never thought I could. I run, workout, and we walk A LOT since this accident. It seems to help. Do not give up, and remember to work at this even after PT. It will only improve if you do. Having been there, I wish you the very best.

Oct 03, 2009
I feel the pain
by: Aron

I was riding a bike(regular bike)when the seat broke off. I fell down and twisted my ankle. I fractured my fibula and tore a ligament in my ankle. NO ONE knows what its like. Its depressing, its sad, its scary. I fractured my ankle when I was 11 and don't remember it being as nearly this depressing. I am so sad every day but have to go on. I'm 20 and turn 21 in four months, I dance, I love to dance and I attend as well as teach hip hop choreography. To know that I will not be able to fully be able to dance how I use to until 18 months is saddening for me. Who ever has to go through this, the surgery, the therapy, the pain, I'm with you and you have my prayers.

Jun 10, 2009
REPLY
by: Grant Jordan.

that is so true, untill they go through it, no one has the right to comment on how little your injury is. i have had the comments, from diffrent people, saying " oh it doesnt look soo bad" or "ive seen worse"

just hang in there, it does get better, stick with therapy, it does work. and through time, there is less pain.

i know its hard, but try to move it much as possible, dont let the scar tissue build up in there!

Jun 10, 2009
Yikes
by: Anonymous

I fractured my fibula and tore a bunch of ligaments near my ankle playing soccer a week ago, It's been exactly one week since the surgery. (open reduction internal fixation) and i have a plate with 8 screws in there too. It's been the most depressing week of my life!
Recovery seems too slow and I'm getting desperate here!
But your case seems a lot worse than mine. I have so much sympathy for everyone that has ever gone through this. no one knows our pain.

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