Question - Shoulder Surgery (SLAP and Rotator Cuff Repair)

by chris
(san francisco, ca USA)

I recently had arthroscopic surgery on my dominant shoulder, with the following diagnoses: 1. Labrum Tear SLAP Lesion "9 o'clock - 3 o'clock".
2. Full thickness tear to supraspinatus tendon.

Procedures performed were debridement, repair of Labrum and Rotator Cuff with sutures/anchors and subacromial decompression.

My questions are: which of the 2 injuries would be considered "worse", absent the other injury and when can I expect to return to work w/o restrictions with aggressive Physical Therapy? (I am a Firefighter for a large, busy city department)

Thanks for your assistance.

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Sep 21, 2008
SLAP / rotator cuff repair
by: Bart - SII

Of the two injuries, I can't say that one would be worse than the other - if it was me, I would prefer to have a SLAP tear rather than the rotator cuff, but both are fairly significant, require surgery for a full recovery, and have a fairly significant recovery time.

Each physician is different with protocols for returning to activities, but because of the demanding nature of your job, I would probably put your full unrestricted return somewhere around 4-6 months after surgery. If you were my patient, that would be the timeline I would be giving you.

Bart

Nov 14, 2008
worried nurse
by: Anonymous

I have just had a repair of full thikness supraspinus tendon tear and acromaplasty. I am 4 weeks into post same and am still very sore despite painkillers . Have started pt in hydro pool .I am worried re time line of how i am going to get over this. At this stage has anywone improved +or what am i going to face?Some days doing excerses not to bad but then very sore and not able to do then to the full extent. Am despering.how long has people found improvement?

Nov 25, 2008
Slap tear and Rotator Cuff surgery you will get better
by: Kevin

I had a slap tear repair, Rotator Cuff trim and arthritis removed from my collar bone about 10 weeks ago. I am very active playing golf and coaching softball so have been motivated. After about 7 to 8 weeks got full range of motion after stretching and have been working resistence exercises, just began working on throwing. The shoulder feels better still hurts and gets stiff easily but I am still having steady improvement. The first four weeks are the toughest keep working and you should be okay.

Kevin

Mar 16, 2009
Rotator cuff recovery
by: John G

I had rotator cuff repair after a skiing injury about 8 weeks ago It was extremely painful for about 6 weeks. I started rehab exercises about 10 days ago and already see a substantial improvement in range of motion. There is still some pain,but much less and usually after exercise, but the pain is inconsistent, worse one day better the other.
The best thing for pain is the application of an icepack. I think this is going to take some time to recover fully but that the propeer rehab is virtal.This has been a bad experience and I sympathize with the others.

Apr 13, 2009
Reply-Slap Repair Question
by: Gary

Chris,
First...I am not a Doctor. I had SLAP repair done on January 19th, that included impingement repair, cyst removal and a scrap of arthritis.

I started rehab 3 days later and have been on a Mon-Wed-Fri 30 min schedule since Jan 20th.

My ortho surgeon put me on a busy rehab protocol so I would be fully healed in 4 months and ready to resume a normal, full use of the shoulder/arm after that time.

Bottom line....the more you can rehab it (correctly without pushing it) the better.

If they have you on a 1 or 2 day per week rehab schedule ask to have it increased. I was given the option and I told them 3 per week.

Check with your insurance company first.

Good luck with your rehab.


Jun 11, 2009
Shoulder Surgery (SLAP and Rotator Cuff Repair)
by: Gina

Well Chris, I had a full thickness Labral tear and a partial supraspinatus tear (SLAP). It came from a traumatic injury (falling). After the injury I could only move the arm up about a foot. The Dr. had me go to physical therapy for 3 months before surgery to get as much motion back as possible. I was able to get back quite a lot. After surgery initially I could only move about 3 inches. The Dr. told me that was normal. It took a year and half of physical therapy but I have all my range back 100 per cent. It was not easy, but once you get determined you can do it, just do not give up, just keep going and you will get there.

Dec 07, 2009
6-weeks post SLAP & rotator cuff surgery
by: helcat

I tore my labrum in a fall two years ago and did physical therapy - was able to get back to most activities, but swimming more than a lap or two was tough. In August, I tore my supraspinatus (full tear), and had surgery 6-weeks ago to repair both.

I am a personal trainer, and I did active pre-hab before the surgery, but I am still struggling to get my full range of motion back. I know because I have worked with others post rehab that this is a long process, but I was NOT emotionally prepared for how slow progress would seem. Thanks to all for your comments - just the reminder that it WILL get better is a big help.

Apr 14, 2010
16 weeks post rotator cuff and labrum repair
by: Anonymous

My surgeon has a very conservative rehap protocol, which I've come to tremendoulsly respect. I was in the sling/bump for 12 weeks and resumed somewhat normal normal activity at 12 weeks such as light cleaning/household duties, upon the advice of my physical therapist.

I have decent range of motion, though not full, and have been doing very light resistance training using the band as formal rehab therapy.

Last week, at week 15, I did too much by pulling a small wheeled luggage (40 lbs) and lifting items that were approximately 20 lbs. My shoulder and in particular, my biceps, is pretty sore and feels "odd". My surgeon chastised me harsly for "not thinking" about what I was doing and cautioned me to discontinue use of the repaired shoulder until the six-month period. He doesn't know if I damaged it or not.

My tissue was good during the surgery, and I was making such good progress. Has anyone else suffered damage to the repair doing "normal" and typical activities at 15-week post surgery? I'm devastated to realize I may have damaged the repair. I did not hurt when I was pulling my luggage, nor when I was lifting the items, or I would have immediately stopped what I was doing. I do have a high tolerance for pain.

Please, any comments/insight? I really feel stupid to not realize that what I was doing would have damage - particularly at 15 weeks post-surgery.

Thank you for any advice or insight you can provide.

May 10, 2010
Rotator cuff surgery and duration of pain after therapy
by: Anonymous

I had rotator cuff surgery 9 weeks ago. At first the pain was horrible. After about 2-3 weeks the pain wasn't too bad. I did a little work in my house and now the pain is unbearable. Constant aching from my shoulder down to my elbow. At night it's hard to sleep the pain is so bad. Is this normal? How long should I be in this pain?
I have been in physical therapy for 8 weeks. My shoulder is stiff. I can't reach behind my back. I stretch at home regularly. I'm concerned with the range of motion and the pain. Any advise or words of encouragement????

May 10, 2010
To the last poster at nine weeks post-surgery
by: Anonymous

Regarding your pain, I would address that with your surgeon. I understand that pain is more intense with debridement, but you didn't mention whether that was performed.

Reaching behind your back at nine weeks -- now THAT would be a stretch (pardon the pun) and in my opinion your expectations may be unrealistic.

I am about 5 months post surgery. I'm the one who wrote previously about pulling luggage, suffering resultant pain, and asking for advice but thus far I've received no response to my post.

My range of motion is not close to fully restored. I can just now start to sort-of, kind-of reach behind my back but it is difficult - and it hurts when I try. My surgeon says I'm on track, but a bit stiff; the PT would like to see a bit more range of motion but says I'm doing fairly well for this stage.

I think it all depends on the tissue, how extensive the damamge was and what was repaired, whether you had arthroscopic vs. mini-open, etc. It is so individual. I can say it is frustratingly slow to recover from rotator cuff surgery because the blood flow to that area is limited.

Take it easy, don't try to rush it as then you risk redamaging the area, ice regularly, and follow your PT and/or surgeon's recommendations (but without a doubt they will disagree on protocol and you need to defer to your surgeon's recommendation).

DO address the pain issue with your surgeon. Perhaps you are using/moving it in a manner that is counterproductive which increases your pain.

Please post back so I know how you are doing.

Good luck and DON'T RUSH IT! It will get better if you pamper it along.


May 21, 2010
rom
by: jean

I had surgery om march 19 (9 weeks today) for a large rotator cuff and bicep attachment, along with bone spurs and arthritis. I was in the sling for 6 weeks and and now in my third week of pt. I am doing the pulley and assisted stretches with my pt. When i was first out of the sling, my rom was 50%. I am now at 70%. I was wondering if anyone could tell me if I am on target (my doctor's protocal was very conservative). I still cannot sleep in my bed, but have graduated to the couch after 7 weeks in a recliner.

May 21, 2010
rom
by: jean

today, after i wrote the post, i was able to get to 75%rom. i am able to do many more things each day, w/o pain. i wrote on another part of this site, that i came to the conclusion today that people do too much with their other shoulder while recovering that i suspect they end up needing rotator cuff surgery on the other arm. It just seems like a number of people end up having both. i am letting up until i can lift using both arms, and not placing weight bearing lifting on the non-surgical shoulder alone. hope this helps.

Jun 17, 2010
Re: luggage puller 15 weeks post
by: JP

To the person who pulled the luggage and lifted the 20lbs... Any better? I too did something I shouldn't have at 11 weeks, now I Have pain on the outside shoulder and down the arm.

Did your arm feel weak after you overdid it? Did you feel like you took 2 steps back in therapy? Just comparing as ny fears are the same... I hope I didn't damage it.
I can't even do the therapy now.

Does anyone know how common
it is to re tear the rotator after surgery? Could holding something heavy it lifting a small child at 11 weeks cause a tear?

Thanks to all.


Jun 17, 2010
To JP - I'm the luggage puller
by: Anonymous

JP, Sorry you are in pain and hope it improves significantly soon.

After I pulled the luggage early on in the recovery phase, I experienced pain. I believed -- and so did the physical therapist -- that it was the MUSCLE and not the repaired area -- responding to the stimulation.

Could that be the case for you? Are you icing?

I am doing well. I just returned from yet another trip during which I HAD to lift and tug some heavy bags. Fortunately, I feel no pain but the shoulder does feel "odd" (no other way to explain it). I have my 6-month review with the surgeon today.

Here's what the surgeon advises to all rotator-cuff surgery patients (and I had a slap lesion repair also):

DO NOT lift anything heavier than 3 pound (like a coffee cupe) for at least THREE months. He is not an advocate of the pendulum exercise as he suggests (and I see his point) that the pendulum exercise puts about 8 lbs of pressure on the repair. His protocol is a minimum of three months of passive articulation, followed by light band resistance training for another three months. We'll see what he says today at the six month review.

He knows he has a very conservative rehab protocol but claims the rate of retear is 50% for patients who start aggressively using the repaired area sooner than 6 months. Of course, my physical therapist disagrees with his program.

How practical is this protocol? I'm blessed in that I do not have to work outside the home but I do not know how others would manage with a typical daily schedule.

Please report back and let me know how you are doing, okay?


Jun 18, 2010
Re: luggage
by: JP

Just came from dr office, saw the MA - she isn't concerned.
Got a cortisone shot for the first time to help with inflammation.

FYI TO ALL - do not hold anything more than 10lbs., period were the instructions. I was holding luggage, carrying guitars, a big no- no. Even though I felt able, I was told holding heavy things will cause flare ups but won't cause reinjury. But in fairness to me, those instructions are no where in my paperwork, only no lifting above the head.

That's the latest.

Jun 18, 2010
To JP
by: Anonymous

I'm so happy for you to have not retorn/reinjured your repair. Whew.

That's sound advice to not hold anything. I had NO written instructions whatsoever, just the conflicting verbal advice from the surgeon, whom I saw infrequently, and the PT, whom I saw on a regular basis.

I'd find out AFTER the fact whether what seemed to be a benign activity was potentially harmful or not.

I'm at six months post surgery, saw the surgeon yesterday, and he still is instructing me to not progress in my rehab program beyond working with the pulley and bands. Without thinking, I lifted a few 40 lb boxes and am paying the price. I don't mean to be idiotic, but without the pain to remind me, I go on autopilot and just do what I normally would do. So I'm starting to carry something very light in my hand as a reminder to NOT USE IT!!

Good luck and please repost with your progress.


Jun 29, 2010
Seeing Doc tomorrow
by: Anonymous

This has been the most informative forum I have found.
Just got the results of my MRI (over phone) and I have a partial tear and impingement. This is from a trauma (1100lb horse jumping into my R arm) approx 6 weeks ago. The nurse mentioned surgery first but said to talk to the Doc which I will do tomorrow. Anyone done just done PT. I have read and spoken to some friends that if the injury is recent and from trauma surgery is the best way to go. I just can't imagine having to go that long without using my right arm and I have a farm to run!!!
TIA

Jun 30, 2010
Therapy over surgery
by: Anonymous

I know an avid tennis player who had a partial tear. She didn't have surgery, just did therapy for about 6 months. She said it's good as new. I'd avoid surgery at all cost if there is an alternative treatment. This healing and pain sucks. And it's taking very long to get better after surgery. Try therapy first.

Jul 01, 2010
Shoulder Rehab
by: FLHokie

I had shoulder surgery on the 21st of May:
Rotator Cuff Repair
Superior Anterior Labral Repair
Inferior Posterior Labral Repair
Biceps Tenotomy
Capsular Shift
Acromiplasty
Bursectomy
All in all it took 3.5 hours and 10 anchors to fix my shoulder. I have been in a sling since surgery; the first 4 week with an abduction pillow. Tomorrow will mark my sixth post-op week.

I have been in PT for 5 weeks but have really restricted motion. Flex=90,Abd=90,IR=45,ER=30. My question to everyone is how far post-op does it take to get beyond 90 degrees flexion without pain?

Also, if anyone has received a cortisone injection post-op...has it helped with therapy?

Jul 13, 2010
Hurt myself 3 weeks after surgery
by: Mike D.

I just had a SLAP tear surgery repair 3 weeks ago on June 23rd. Last night 2 of my 3 100lb dogs got into a fight and I HAD to step in to break it up. Im really not sure what exactly happened becuase it happened so fast but when it was done my shoulder really hurt. I think i moved my arm back to balance myself, i dont think i actualy used the arm to pull the dogs apart. My fear is that i have re-torn the labrum or something. What is the chance of it being retorn 3 weeks from surgery from a rapid arm movement. I can still move my arm just as much as i could before the dog incident but my shoulder hurts more. How much of the tendon has healed back to the bone this early in recovery. I am very nervous and would greatly appreciate any feedback. Is there any way to know if there has been a re-tear without an MRI?

Jul 13, 2010
Mike
by: Anonymous

So sorry to hear about your incident, Mike. Life happens -- and happens so quickly we often have no time to think about what we are doing.

I strongly suggest a visit to your surgeon or physical therapist, who should be able to determine whether any damage has been done.

Good luck and please keep us posted.

From "Luggage Puller"!!


Jul 14, 2010
JP
by: Anonymous

FLHokie:

Be patient.

That is not bad at all considering all the anchors you have. It is very slow process, 5 weeks is NOTHING in the grand scheme of healing and rehabilitation.

Cortisone shot: the PA recommended cortisone at my 6 week post-op visit, I declined, he looked at me like I had 4 heads. At about 12 weeks I inflamed it so much I thought I reinjured it. When I went back in to be sure it was ok I HAD to get a cortisone shot... it's was a HUGE help. The cortisone stays in the joint anywhere from 3-6 weeks. Not only did it stop the inflammation, I felt it allowed me to rehab harder; I've made a lot of strides since the shot. Which is what the PA said it would do at 6 weeks (if I only listened).

In short, get the shot if they recommend it. I wish I did at 6 weeks, it would have really helped my rehab.

In the end, listen to the doc. Don't try to be a hero. Don't hold anything over 10lbs until your 3 month follow up. I mean hold, not just lift, just hold in your hand. Any dead weight you hold at your side that pulls on the joint (luggage, briefcase or guitar case for example) can inflame it.

Just so you know I had the same surgery, but only 7 anchors. I am at 15 weeks, doc said all is good BUT because of all the anchors, stiffer than most which is normal. Just need to keep stretching it out.

Good luck.

JP


Jul 28, 2010
10 month post op
by: Ronda

I am 46 & had surgery 10-6-09 coming up on 10 months post-op. I had Slap repair with 3 anchors, rotator cuff tear, impingement & debridement on two bones on my right shoulder..surgery took 3.5 hours. Best thing about surgery was I had a "peripheral nerve catheter pump" put in and it made my arm & shoulder stay numb for 3.5 days after surgery...it was the best thing invented because everyone said the pain is so terrible right after...I was also on pain pills...so very little pain. (only used sling for a week & then for 6 weeks in public-so people wouldn't accidently hit my arm)
my surgeon had me doing pendelum swings 1 day after surgery & he gave me different exercises with a stick to do several times a day(they hurt like hell & very slow to get range going at first...but I could only lift a pencil for 6 weeks. I started PT at 5 weeks & only went for 6 weeks. surgeon increased weight slowly that I could pickup...over time..pencil to 2pounds then to 5 lbs then 10 lbs. thought I would never be able to put my hand flat on my back again, but I can it just pulls some now. Dr. said, Do not catch anything that is falling no matter how light and do not Fall! Dr. said it would take a year to get back to normal.

10 months out..carried 2-50 pound feed bags today close to my body and tonight I feel it in my shoulder. Normally shoulder is just stiff but I am always stretching it out. It is not perfect yet but I have full range of motion & only some twinges. I really need to start working with weights just never seem to have time.

word of warning...I over-used my left arm the year before surgery & these past 10 months after...so will now have surgery this October on the left.

Aug 04, 2010
question to all
by: Anonymous

Hi, I have a 13 yr old who was diagnosed with a SLAP tear of his dominant shoulder. The Dr. seems to be very unconcerned at this point. My son has done 12wks of physical therapy and it seems the issue is getting worse, the shoulder locks up at least once a day and he can no longer force it out of position on his own. He usually needs me to push the arm manually to get it back into position for movement. He doesn't complain of a lot of pain, but he is very active, and it is hard to get him to slow down and be conservative since the Dr. doesn't give him the impression that this is serious. I am concerned about the long term health of his shoulder. Does it seem wise to do surgery? He wants to play baseball and basketball this year in school, and I don't want him to have this issue forever. Any suggestions?

Sep 06, 2010
rotator cuff surgery
by: Anonymous

surgery on july 29 for two complete tears, one was a bicep tendon tear and a third partial tear. today I am 4 days short of 6 wks and removing the sling in 4 days. still have pain localized on the side of the injured shoulder. somedays the pain feels muscular probably due to all the pt i do. rom is getting better and better but it seems like i have miles to go before i will have3 normal shoulder function again

Sep 06, 2010
rotator cuff surgery
by: Anonymous

surgery on july 29 for two complete tears, one was a bicep tendon tear and a third partial tear. today I am 4 days short of 6 wks and removing the sling in 4 days. still have pain localized on the side of the injured shoulder. somedays the pain feels muscular probably due to all the pt i do. rom is getting better and better but it seems like i have miles to go before i will have3 normal shoulder function again

Sep 06, 2010
Hang in there
by: Anonymous

It does get better and easier very quickly. I would bet the pain is indeed muscular. Sounds like you're doing very well. I hope that continues.

Sep 08, 2010
Progress is slow
by: Chuck

Everyone,
41/2 weeks out from rotator tear repair, labrom repair and tying off bicept tendon. Pain was really rough for the first 3 or 4 days ice and drugs were my best friends. I still use lots of ice and occasiomal pain meds. Sleep nearly impossible and not much improved though I have moved to my bed from the recliner and couch. Doc says sling for 6 weeks especially at night when accidental movement could cause problems. Still having periodic pain and muscle soreness after pt. I am on a 12 week 2x per week pt program and have had my first 6 sessions. My rom has improved but slow and painful especially at first. This surgery is no joke (I had it in my other shoulder 12 years ago) and will take 6 months of conserted effort to completely heal and return ROM.

Oct 17, 2010
retore
by: Shawn

Please be extremely careful. I moved the arm a little towards the front. Felt slight pop, not painful. But I retore the rotator cuff and had my 2nd repair in 5 weeks. Dr put many more anchors and I also can not sleep in any position. Now it will be 4 weeks before the Dr will allow any passive movement. I would just be happy to get some sleep.

But to answer the one question, it is really easy to do damage to the repair. I hope that you did not and that you are just soar. Good luck.


Oct 17, 2010
retore
by: Shawn

Please be extremely careful. I moved the arm a little towards the front. Felt slight pop, not painful. But I retore the rotator cuff and had my 2nd repair in 5 weeks. Dr put many more anchors and I also can not sleep in any position. Now it will be 4 weeks before the Dr will allow any passive movement. I would just be happy to get some sleep.

But to answer the one question, it is really easy to do damage to the repair. I hope that you did not and that you are just soar. Good luck.


Oct 17, 2010
retore
by: Shawn

Please be extremely careful. I moved the arm a little towards the front. Felt slight pop, not painful. But I retore the rotator cuff and had my 2nd repair in 5 weeks. Dr put many more anchors and I also can not sleep in any position. Now it will be 4 weeks before the Dr will allow any passive movement. I would just be happy to get some sleep.

But to answer the one question, it is really easy to do damage to the repair. I hope that you did not and that you are just soar. Good luck.


Dec 05, 2010
Numbness
by: JS

I read through most of your posts but haven't noticed anyone refer to numbness. I had rotator cuff, bicep repair and removal of arthritis on Oct 8th (so 8 weeks out). I started PT and after 2 weeks I am in considerable pain (only took pain meds for 2 days after surgery and am reluctantly taking them again) and quite a bit of numbness down to my hands. Anyone else experiencing numbness? Thx!

Dec 12, 2010
SLAP Repair 2nd Shoulder
by: Jeepers

Ihad an Acromioplasty on RT shoulder for a bone hook a year ago, then still had pain and MRI/arthrogram showed SLAP Tear in same shoulder which I had repaired 2/10. I still have pain in that shoulder and have been sleeping in a recliner since. I did PT for about 4-5 months, and my LT shoulder began bothering me. Had an MRI/arthrogram which showed a SLAP tear of that shoulder as well, so I'll have surgery in 1/11. My RT shoulder only improved about 20% after surgery--no anchors were needed. I've had cortisone shots with little relief. I still can't reach behind my back at all, pain is constant. Dr. says it's tendonitis. Anyone have any ideas?

Dec 16, 2010
rototor cup surgery
by: Anonymous

I have a suggestion for anyone expericing pain and unable to sleep, my surgeron recommended sleeping with a heating pad on low, it works. Good luck

Dec 17, 2010
all shook up
by: Anonymous

I am 9 weeks post op from a rotator cuff/labrum debridment and repair of a severe impingement. I have been back at work for two weeks and am on light duty. I was shaken by a post seizure client and am experiencing quite a bit of pain after being pain free for a little bit of time. Soreness is constant again and I am reluctant to call my ortho b/c I don't really want to be off work again. PT did not advance my therapy to give the soreness a chance to subside. Should I be worried about reinjury?

Dec 20, 2010
only short recovery needed
by: fast track recovery

Am 4 days out from labral repair. They had to suture the silly thing back in place. Catching heat at work that this should only take at most 1-2 weeks to get back to work. In as much I started moving the PT up fast. Worked on moving snow and using a snow blower today. Got to say thay work may just be right. It is very sore (as bad if not worse than after the surgery) but it is able to be used. Not sure what is up with these persons needing all these weeks off but I do agree 1-2 weeks to return to full function seems to be accruate.

Dec 20, 2010
can u tear a nother muscle other than the one u fixed
by: bad news

I had surgery for sup muscle tear in the rotator cuff 11wks ago. 6 wks in had the sling taken off. from day 1 of pt my shoulder has been very stiff, About 9wks in i could start moving the arm above my head by myself. The pt is very painful when he stretches your arm in directions that it just dosent want to go. At the 9wk stage i was starting to get confident and did something stupid by lifting a drill around the house and doing some house projects .BAD IDEA! after that my arm became sore in my shoulder and down my bicep and pt was even harder than before. But i delt with the pain and stiffness for 2wks before i decided to call the Dr. I saw him 11wks post opp and told him what i did he said that they tie the muscle really good during operation but i could have re torn it. I asked if i could get an mri to see if he could see anything but he siad that ther would be to much scar tisue in the way to really see anything so he gave me a cortizone shot to help with the imflamation and he is hoping that it just flared up. The pt dosnt seem to think that there is anything wrong because i am getting good movement. I guess my question to other people would be beside the stiffness in my shoulder i am getting pain down my bicep to my elbo. Does your shoulder make your bicep sore or could i have torn a muscle in there when i do pt he has me push a weight machine with a A LB ON IT and after 10 pushes it feels like there is a sharp shock feeling in my bicep. The dr wants me to wait 3wks to see if it gets ant better and go back to see him. i just got a bad feeling about this. and for those people that are just getting it done the recovery just sucks i have had a lot of people tell me that they where back to work in no time at all but i think that is just bullcrap unless u have an office job. if u can avoid this surgery do it this has been a real bad exspereance. good luck to all

Dec 22, 2010
I've just had the surgery
by: lknowwhatyoumean

I had surgery for rotator cuff tear and slap repair on 10/21/10 and am on a 3 day a week PT program. I can't get my arm behind my back and have been told it may be several months before I can. I didn't think anything could be more painful than the shoulder was before the surgery but I was totally wrong. This has been a rough recovery. I did sleep in my own bed from day one however by placing ten pillows around me like a fort so I couldn't roll or turn and by keeping the sling and it's pillow in place. I wore the sling for the first month day and night. As for numbness someone mentioned I have two numb fingers and the outer side of my hand is numb. The doctor's think that a nerve became trapped somewhere in the repair. They are going to worry about that when the shoulder heals.

Dec 23, 2010
SLAP/Bankhart repair, suprinspinatus tear
by: Annoyed

Bad news I can relate to you and your pain. I am 5 wks out of surgery and have had my arm pulled on and then had a PT stretch me in external and internal rotation which I don't have and now I have excruciating pain down by bicep tendon down towards the elbow.

I went to the MD who gave me a cortisone injection. Helped some as my joint is stiff, but hasn't touched that biceps. I am concerned I have retorn the SLAP. Now a wait and see game to see if I can progress in therapy.

I only have 90 degs of shoulder flex, abduction with assist of a dowel before it hurts. I have only about 30 degs external rotation and no internal rotation.

So easy to get discouraged. My arm is useless and painful and will be for some time to come. I do know it takes quite awhile to heal.

Dec 31, 2010
go your own pace
by: SLAP me silly

A bit of encouragement to those of us sharing this unfortunate experience: I am 8 weeks post-op from a 5-anchor SLAP repair and 90% thickness rotator cuff tear with acromioplasty. The first few weeks of my recovery were pretty rough; lots of pain little sleep and zero mobility. After 6 weeks in the sling and 4 weeks in PT I am finally starting to see significant progress; I went from 85 degrees of flexion to 175 in 2 weeks.
This forum has answered a lot of questions for me, but I still think lots of folks use it too much as a yardstick for their own progress. There are too many variables including but no limited to: your health and condition pre-op, the amount/type of surgery done, YOUR AGE, how your body responds to trauma/healing etc. You don't have to be a doctor to know that people's recovery times are going to vary a lot.
So, what I'd like to suggest is what has worked for me so far. LISTEN to your body. Work through the pain but don't push too far, pain should be dull not sharp. Stay positive, eat well, and get lots of rest. If possible, be open to acupuncture, massage therapy, and other "alternative healing" approaches. I've had really positive results with stuff as simple as breathing techniques for pain management which in turn make the PT more effective. Also resist the urge to do too much too soon.
A healthy shoulder starts with a healthy body and mind. Keep up the good work everyone!

Jan 04, 2011
12/23/10 surgery
by: Anonymous

I had surgery on teh 23rd of December and I am typing this with my arm at my side. I had a full thickness cuff tear of my supraspinatus. In addition I had a biceps tenodesis performed. The first two days sucked but primarily because I had a reaction to oxycodene. After that only IB for pain. PT started on day 5 and I am at 90 90 30 ROM after 10 days. PT gal is very happy. I have found that shoulder shrugs and rolls do a very good job of keep it loose between icing. It almost feels too good considering I have 4 more weeks of this damn sling. I am sleeping in bed on my side through the night and there is no visible swelling. I dont push my limits on PT and cant wait until they give me more to do because the 90/90/30 is easy and without pain. I get a slight pinch feeling while extending on the table when laying my head down on arm. Other than that no issues. ICE ICE ICE!! I will add that I am 46, dont smoke and was in pretty good shape going in. I think that had a lot to do with my recovery.

good luck to everyone.

Jan 05, 2011
Had 2 SLAP tears repaired on 11/11/10
by: Matt

Also had some bone removed and I blew out about a 1/4 inch of cartilage (the shards were found embedded in my body). 2months into recovery and I am still suffering from the dull ache. The infraspinatus and Teres Minor muscles are very tight. Haven't really tried to stretch them but I have rolled on a tennis ball which seems to help alleviate the pain on the inside of my elbow. ROM is decent lateral raises I can move my arm all the way up but I am still having trouble with the horizontal raises. Wall climbs seem to hurt more than they help. Reaching behind the back, not quite there yet, can barely make it to my belt. Strength has not returned and my PT says she'd like to see my for two more sessions. Have not met with my Ortho yet, that's next week, so I'll ask him.

This whole process has been rather difficult for me since I am single and don't have anyone to depend on for help. Really wish I knew what to expect and I spend a great deal of time worrying about whether or not I've re-injured myself. Does or did anyone else feel this way.

I know that I am being impatient but it is very hard to judge my recovery when one day I am for the most part pain free and then the next I'm irritable and suffering from the nagging dull ache.

Thanks in advance for advice and encouragement you can give me...

Matt

Jan 07, 2011
I have a slap and rotator cuff tears in both shoulders!
by: Anonymous

I have been in TREMENDOUS pain for the last few years. It has been worse the past month to where I cant lift my arms above my head. I have been seeing an ortho surgeon every three weeks and attending Physical Therapy for a year and a half now. He keeps telling me there is no surgery's for a slap and that we can do the cuff tear surgery but that will only last so long.
Well, today I spoke to another Ortho (which I should have done long ago) and he said that is absolutely not true. He took a look at my MRI's and said we can fix both shoulders but you will need lots of patients because the recovery time takes so long.
I am so excited about this I can't even explain it. This other doctor is a whack job. He has been having me come in so he can just fill his pockets. I will be turning him in to my insurance company.
I hope once I am set up for this first surgery it will be a success. I just want to be pain free even if it takes a while.
I do have a couple questions? Do you have to stay in the hospital for any amount of time after one of these surgeries? Also, is their any type of brace you have to wear? Thank you all!

Jan 07, 2011
I have a slap and rotator cuff tears in both shoulders!
by: Anonymous

I have been in TREMENDOUS pain for the last few years. It has been worse the past month to where I cant lift my arms above my head. I have been seeing an ortho surgeon every three weeks and attending Physical Therapy for a year and a half now. He keeps telling me there is no surgery's for a slap and that we can do the cuff tear surgery but that will only last so long.
Well, today I spoke to another Ortho (which I should have done long ago) and he said that is absolutely not true. He took a look at my MRI's and said we can fix both shoulders but you will need lots of patients because the recovery time takes so long.
I am so excited about this I can't even explain it. This other doctor is a whack job. He has been having me come in so he can just fill his pockets. I will be turning him in to my insurance company.
I hope once I am set up for this first surgery it will be a success. I just want to be pain free even if it takes a while.
I do have a couple questions? Do you have to stay in the hospital for any amount of time after one of these surgeries? Also, is their any type of brace you have to wear? Thank you all!

Jan 09, 2011
wondering
by: Anonymous

I had SLAP repair in August, just one anchor. I am about am about five months out. I am all finished with PT. I thought I was a pretty active person, but PT pretty difficult. I do my exercises at home three day a week. Anyways, I hurt it playing baseball and continued to fight and play through it. I hope to be playing baseball(pitching) in early May. I coach jr high baseball so I know this will help with my strength and ROM. I guess I was just wondering if being able to pitch in early May is possible. I am 29 and somewhat active.

Jan 10, 2011
to anonymous
by: bad news

you need to were a sling your first 6wks it has a big pad that kind of molds to your side. And i had my torn cuff repaired about an hour after you wake up they send you home your in and out pretty fast its not what you might think.when u leave the hospital your shoulder and arm is completely num you dont feel anything thats only if u get the nerve block shot before surgery.and try to get or rent a ice machine for your shoulder cold water is pumped through a tube into a pad and your shoulder always stays cold it works great some dr do it and others dont. pain management dr will talk to u before surgery ask him about it helps you to a better recovery if u cant get from your dr look on ebay u wont regret it its worth the money. I personnaly didnt feel a whole lot of pain until pt started and when it starts to feel better dont get over excited and let it heal if u try to lift anything u can really take 2 or 3 steps back believe me on that on. GOOD LUCK




Jan 11, 2011
painful popping
by: Kelly

I had a soulder labrum (bankhart) repair about 2 and a half weeks ago. i am good about wearing my sling, especially at night when i toss a lot. last week in my sleep i turned funny and my shoulder let out a really weird and painful pop. since then it has been doing it a lot, even when i am in the sling and doing movements that should be ok. i would go see my surgeon but i am back up at school and won't be home until late february. i thought initially the popping was just the joint trying to release bubbles but since the tear is on the top portion of my shoulder it's hard to know if the popping is from the anchors/stitches (my tear was a flap kind of hanging down so he had to stitch it back to keep it in place) or the joint. any thoughts?

Jan 12, 2011
3 weeks and counting
by: Carl

had 3 week anniversary today. all good. get to be out of sling while at desk which is awesome. i dont think i have ever been at my desk this much since I cant run or lift. the only thing that hurts during PT is the arm out to the side bent at elbow and being moved backwards. that sucks! I am at 53 degress and she tells me 90 is the goal at 6 weeks. I read people talking about re-tearing. Does anyone know what you feel or what symptoms you would have if you did tear out a stitch or anchor?

thanks in advance and good luck to all of us for a complete recovery.

Jan 12, 2011
3 weeks and counting
by: Carl

had 3 week anniversary today. all good. get to be out of sling while at desk which is awesome. i dont think i have ever been at my desk this much since I cant run or lift. the only thing that hurts during PT is the arm out to the side bent at elbow and being moved backwards. that sucks! I am at 53 degress and she tells me 90 is the goal at 6 weeks. I read people talking about re-tearing. Does anyone know what you feel or what symptoms you would have if you did tear out a stitch or anchor?

thanks in advance and good luck to all of us for a complete recovery.

Jan 14, 2011
Not alone
by: Anonymous

wow its nice to feel not so alone. I am 5 weeks post SLAP. I am paranoid about messing up the repair. have been told to expect 6 months till i can go back to work (renovation contractor). I am following Dr directions to the t. sling on 24/7. started pt 3 weeks ago and have good rom.
What my concern is, is that every time I cough or sneeze i feel like i am ripping my anchors out. does anyone know how likely this is to happen?

Jan 15, 2011
Re: Not Alone
by: Kelly

I have this sensation a lot too. Now i am not sure where you're tear was, but i talked to this with my physical therapist because i frequently feel a lot of popping sensations (as i posted above, i have since gotten my answer). they explained that this feeling is common post-op because there is scar tissue trying to form, so it would be the scar tissue letting loose, which for the most part will not hurt your recovery, but also depending on how much swelling going on internally it could also be tendons rubbing on one another or something similiar. I think is any of us tear our anchors out we will know, my doctor said it will hurt worse then the initial injury.
hope this helped a little

Jan 16, 2011
how long until i can golf?
by: Anonymous

First, thanks to all for posting. The advice, encouragement, and experiences help tremendously in easing any paranoia that might build up regarding my progress. After about 18 months of visiting various quacks, the eventual surgeon diagnosed the torn labrom from a 14 month old MRI taken by a local doctor. During SLAP repair, he fixed ruptured rotator cuff, shaved bone hook, and removed bursa. Due to the muscle atrophy that took over during the year and a half of poor treatment, PT has been a bit slow. I was in sling 24/7 for the first 6 weeks. Currently in a 6 week script for ROM therapy only 3 times per week. No strength training at all, even for the already atrophied muscles, for another 4 weeks (surgery 11/18/10).
I am (normally) a very avid golfer, playing about 3 days a week to a 4 handicap. Does anyone have any experience with returning to golf after a similar injury and rehab? Thanks again

Jan 17, 2011
rom very inconsistent
by: carl

funny how everday its different. one day i get all the way to 90 on external and the next it hurts like a b to get to 55. thanks for the anchor pull analysis from your doctor. that helps because everytime i do something I am like...crap i just screwed it up.

i am fortunate to own my own biz and live at my desk for the most part. that allow me to lay my arm on desk out of sling. I sympathize with those who say that they are 24/7 in sling. that makes my arm ache just thinking about it.

I love coming out of the sling and just laying it out on a nice pillow extended. Its like euphoria for awhile.

Keep trucking fellow slapsters.

Jan 20, 2011
update
by: Anonymous

Well it's been 2mos out and I'm ahead of the curve as far as ROM but my strength has not returned. No longer going to physical therapy and have been able to go back to the gym. Armed with the various exercises I can do and with explicit instructions of "No bench presses or bicep work." Although I find it strange that my PT says I can do lat pull downs and 90 degree bicep curls(arms extended out to my side and using the cables). I am not using very heavy weights and for most exercises it is merely 5lbs.

The discomfort I feel (pain is such a negative word) varies from day to day. Today for example I am experiencing mild to severe discomfort in my elbow. My doctor told me that it will be like this for several more months. I thought surgery was supposed to alleviate that?

The fear of the unknown is the worst part of this whole experience and if I did happen to re-injure myself I think I'll just live with it, this recovery is terrible and I would not wish this on anyone.

I am trying to think positively but it proves to be very difficult when experiencing the pins and needles in my hand or my elbow is hurting. I keep telling myself that it has to get worse before it gets better and the discomfort I feel is just part of the healing process.

And every person is different I hope that some where out there someone has experienced what I am going through and can give me words of encouragement.

Jan 24, 2011
Labrum Recovery - Post-Op 15 Weeks
by: Robert

I had a SLAP repair done on my right shoulder back on October 15th. I will be at 15 weeks post-op this Friday the 28th of January. I anticipate the doctor to "cut be loose" as he stated at my last visit on December 3rd. I've been in therapy since October 29th and I am now to the point where I will be able to do exercises on my own.
It has been a long road, but I am glad I went the surgical route after six to seven years of dealing with a loose shoulder. The shoulder now feels much tighter and smoother when I move it.
Best of luck to all those out there going through any shoulder problems.

Jan 24, 2011
Pain-5 weeks out
by: Jeremy

Hi everyone,
I had a labrum repair, roatator cuff repair, and subcromial decompression done on 27DEC. The pain is actually worse now than before. I haven't lifted anything but was hit on the drivers side of my vehicle at 3 weeks. I didn't really notice any increase of pain at that point but now it seems to be worse than at any point after surgery. It is my dominant shoulder (left) that was hit against the side of my truck. No real damage as it wasn't a bad accident. Just wondering now if that has anything to do with the pain or if it's because most of the swelling has subsided. Most of the pain is in the front to middle and kind of feels like my shoulder is "grinding" when I take the sling off. It's literally excruciating when that happens. I just can't seem to find a comfortable position.
Thanks for any insight.

Jan 26, 2011
Phase 1 almost over
by: Anonymous

9 days left until 6 week dr. visit. As i previously stated. I am a desk jockey and continue to find time out of sling is much more comfy than being in it. I only stay in sling while driving and when out at stores etc. When on couch i make a pillow stack at my side and support the arm. When moving around office I keep arm at side and hold my the side of my arm with my good hand so i dont swing around or bump something. PT continues to go well with the exception of external rotation which I seem to be stuck at 55 degrees. The pain is terrible with that motion beyond that. PT lady says I am doing fine and should be released from sling no problem when I hit 6 weeks. I do pendulums whenever possible and that keeps the joint loose and warm. ICE is still king after PT but that is pretty much the only time I do it. To date the tenodesis has not even been felt. I obvsioulsy dont lift anything other than the weight of my own forearm and that isnt very often. I cant wait to do more activity so I can start getting some strength. I hope all of you are progressing well. Thanks for sharing all the stories.

Jan 30, 2011
Preparing for surgery and the recovery
by: kate

Hi everyone,

I am having SLAP and rotator cuff surgery in two weeks and am wondering what advice any of you have for how to prepare. Are any of you following a special diet or taking more vitamins to help speed healing?

Also, can someone comment on how you accomplished things like bathing, getting dressed, and other daily activities? Also, any women out there with recommendations for clothing during the healing period?

I am very concerned about being able to get things done around my house, let alone getting work done.

Any advice you can offer in advance is most appreciated.

Thanks!

Jan 30, 2011
Kate
by: Anonymous

Kate, first off have someone around to help you for the first 3 weeks. You will be in some discomfort and wont be able to do things like put deodorant on , button shirts, towel off etc. You can but you would be doing it for hours. I would recomment button down shirts (if you have someone to button or alot of time), or baggy pullovers that you can slide up the bad arm and then do the rest. There is no diet to help tendons heal. Fish oil, and vitamins can hurt but there is nothing specific for healing this. I was in good shape going in so that cant hurt. If you smoke.....STOP....proven 3x failure rate for smokers. Just try to prepare your mind for lots of time doing nothing active. Get a ebook or ipad so you can funtion with one hand. Ask your doctor if he will let you come out of sling to operate keyboard. Mine did and the was a life saver. Bottom line dont fool with what your doctor says because no one wants to go under the knife a second time and reset the clock. I have 4 days left of the sling and barely made it through sane.

Good luck.

Feb 04, 2011
Released to Resume Normal Activities After 15 Weeks
by: Robert

Just an update on my post-op labrum surgery from October 15, 2010. I saw my doctor on January 28th and he cut me loose at that point. Also, I finished therapy on January 24th. He is allowing me to resume normal activities with the stipulation that I use common sense when working out and participating in other activities. I starting working out again on January 30th and I felt ok. A bit weak as expected but I got through a week of workouts feeling good. I know I have a long road to go, but I didn't expect to pick up a weight till April. So I was pleased that I was released to resume activities much sooner. One think I will continue to do is my rotator cuff strenghening exercises in both shoulders. I want to keep the left shoulder strong since I have a feeling the same problem is/has developed in that shoulder as well. I won't consider surgery on that shoulder for a while if I ever do, since I got through close to 7+ years with a torn labrum in my right shoulder until I started having real problems in August 2010. Hope this helps those who are just out of surgery...

Feb 04, 2011
6-week check-up today
by: Jeremy

Hi Everyone,
I have my 6-week check-up today. The pain has been bad but seems that it is FINALLY letting off a little bit. I've only been to 3 PT sessions as I started this week. That's no fun. I want to throw a ball so bad I can't stand it. Especially with baseball season ramping up. I coach and it's going to be tough but I think I'll make it through.

@Kate: I've found that the easiest way to put a shirt on now that I don't have to drape it over my shoulder is to pull the sleeve all the way up on my repaired arm and then lean and do the rest. I don't think my expectations of this surgery were realistic as far as pain and recovery time but I've adjusted now and ice makes it feel so much better. I wish you the best.

Feb 06, 2011
out of sling
by: Anonymous

amazing that 2 days out of sling I feel so much better. just being able to move the arm freely has brought so much quality back to my life. weak as can be but regarless I can button my shirt, lean over to brush my teeth with my dominate arm etc. are just awesome. More ache than pain but I know the worst is behind me. 6 weeks of just arm use and light band exercises but better than the sling.

Spring is here!!!

Feb 06, 2011
Had to have it done
by: flip

Hey everybody. I do concrete work for my fun lifestyle. So last April I tore both my Rotator Cuffs on the same job. I was dumb and waited till Jan to have my right one done. Its now been almost 4 weeks. The ice machine is the best thing going. I used it for the first 2 weeks and I know it helps.I started light movements of my shoulder on the third day. Like shugs-hanging my arm down just little things to keep it loose. I dont start phys for 2 more weeks but I can already put my arm behind my back. All I know is I have a lot of frends that had this done and they told me to start moving the shoulder early. Maybe thats wrong but it worked for me. I do keep it in the sling most of the day and always in bed. Keep a stiff upper lip because it looks like a slow process.

Feb 07, 2011
Something strange
by: Matt

I have been able to go to the gym since the beginning of February (light lifting and very limited exercises). Oh and just for reference my surgery was back on 11/11/10. So Friday I was at the gym doing my thing, and I reached up to brush my the sweat from my head and I felt my right shoulder "Catch." It hurt for the briefest of moments and I was sort of alarmed by this. I had been experiencing some "catches" when doing wall climbs and so I have become rather concerned that I have re-torn something. But from what my doctor told me, pain reminiscent to what I had experienced before the surgery was and is normal.

The shoulder ached all weekend and some movements that I had been able to perform before were a little difficult. And just so you know I am not do any overhead lifting. My routine consists of some seat bench presses, pull downs, and seated rows, some flys with light weight and also the other exercise my PT gave me.

My question is, is this normal or is it something I should be concerned about? Also has anyone else experienced this?

Feb 07, 2011
Something strange
by: Matt

I have been able to go to the gym since the beginning of February (light lifting and very limited exercises). Oh and just for reference my surgery was back on 11/11/10. So Friday I was at the gym doing my thing, and I reached up to brush my the sweat from my head and I felt my right shoulder "Catch." It hurt for the briefest of moments and I was sort of alarmed by this. I had been experiencing some "catches" when doing wall climbs and so I have become rather concerned that I have re-torn something. But from what my doctor told me, pain reminiscent to what I had experienced before the surgery was and is normal.

The shoulder ached all weekend and some movements that I had been able to perform before were a little difficult. And just so you know I am not do any overhead lifting. My routine consists of some seat bench presses, pull downs, and seated rows, some flys with light weight and also the other exercise my PT gave me. And in between I am doing the stretches which really seems to help.

My question is, is this normal or is it something I should be concerned about? Also has anyone else experienced this?

Feb 07, 2011
Sorry about the double post :)
by: Matt

It's so strange I thought I'd post it twice :) I called my doctor for some advice, not supposed to see him until next month. I'll keep you posted

Feb 07, 2011
over work
by: flip

Hey Matt. I did work most of last week and didnt think I did much .Just 4 weeks since surgery. Had a lot of pain thru the weekend. Just short bursts maybe 8-10 min at a time. But I was freaking out. I thought I ripped it again, Called the doctor ,he said I should of felt it rip I didnt .So I probley over worked the area. I hope he's right. I hate living with this nervous feeling that its going to rip at any second .

Feb 07, 2011
My doctor says "Work through it"
by: Matt

And herein lies the frustrating part of this whole ordeal. I would have no idea if I did re-tear something, other than getting another MRI. My shoulder itself does not hurt but I have secondary discomfort in my arm and can press on the various trigger points of the Rotator cuff and alleviate the discomfort. I think I have narrowed it down to the: Infraspinatus, supraspinatus and to a lesser extent the Teres Minor.

I am not expecting miracles but I was living pretty much discomfort free for the last two weeks and then all of a sudden, wham, discomfort. Every person is different and I was talking a couple of people that had this surgery and one of them still could not reach behind his back 1yr after surgery and another, the manager at my gym, still experiences discomfort 6yrs post surgery. Ugh, I thought surgery was supposed to take of this.

Trying to stay the course, and if the doctor says work through it, to quote my Drill Sergeant "Suck it up" then I will. But he did say that if the discomfort persists for a week I should call him back for a followup,

Feb 07, 2011
DOCTORS
by: flip

I hate when doctors say just work thru it. Because it hurts and I want an answer. But I also understand it takes time to heal and like you I don't want to be back at square one as time rolls on.

Feb 08, 2011
Woke up this morning in pain
by: Matt

and I'm talking excruciating. Yesterday I did my exercises without a problem, light weight and this morning when I was pulling the sheet while making the bed my shoulder just about crippled me. I couldn't straighten my arm and the pain was so intense on my inner arm near the elbow that I had to lay back down.

I iced it and even applied the TENS unit to it and for almost 2hrs I laid there wondering if I had seriously re-injured myself. Then around 0730 I began to notice that the pain I felt in my arm was being cause by the upper part of my shoulder where the Bicep tendon attaches to the shoulder. That is where my doctor shaved the bone and removed the bursa sac. He told me by doing so the Bicep tendon would have more room to move, yeah and obviously more room to inflame and press on the nerve.

I got up around 0800 and the pain vanished and again my sanity came into question. What in the world had I done to warrant such severe pain? I "worked through" it and was able to get dressed and drive to the office. Today I will not go to the gym but I will have to do my stretches because if I don't it'll be worse tomorrow.

I just did a couple of wall climbs both lateral and horizontal with no pain so what gives Doc? I realize that I am a head of the curve as far as recovery goes but what can I do to prevent this sort of relapse? I am doing everything the doctor/PT has told me to do and yet I experienced such intense pain that I almost stayed home from work.

And Flip I think Doctor's say that because they have no idea what to tell a person. Everyone is different and so I am hoping that by posting here I can at least help someone who maybe experiencing the same thing I am going through.

Feb 16, 2011
Re-tore rotator cuff and labrum
by: Anonymous

I am 5 weeks post op after not following my surgeon's protocol.
Listen to your doctor! I now have two more anchors as I tore the rotator on top and re-tore my labrum. I had scar tissue and he shaved down a spur. I do the pendulum exercises and use a polar care for pain. This is a very painful recovery.
I wish everyone good healing!
Charlotte age 58

Feb 16, 2011
Re-tore rotator cuff and labrum
by: Anonymous

I am 5 weeks post op after not following my surgeon's protocol.
Listen to your doctor! I now have two more anchors as I tore the rotator on top and re-tore my labrum. I had scar tissue and he shaved down a spur. I do the pendulum exercises and use a polar care for pain. This is a very painful recovery.
I wish everyone good healing!
Charlotte age 58

Feb 17, 2011
back on the road
by: Anonymous

8 weeks post op rc and tenodesis. Went on road for a slow 2 mile run followed by my PT. What a great day. Aching as usual but worth it.

Feb 21, 2011
How did you know?
by: Matt

I was doing great up until a couple of weeks ago and my doctor said "work through it." So I am doing what he told me.

What did you do to re-tear? How did it feel? I told me doctor about my pain and how at times my bicep tendon feels like it is going to rip though my shoulder. And he said oh yeah that's completely normal. Really! Makes me so thrilled to know that the intense pain I feel is "normal." Please note sarcasm.

So how did you know you re-injured yourself? Inquiring minds would like to know

Feb 21, 2011
matt and his re-inury
by: Anonymous

the procedure is painful Matt. not many re-injure themselves. considering everyone has a different pain threshold I nor no one here can assume you re-injured your repair. If you doctor says you didnt then you most likely didnt. If you re-injured it you would have most likely dropped to your knees in pain. maybe you are just using a muscle or motion that you have not in a long time. that can hurt bad and last for a while. as i improve i often hit spots that just feel horrible and realize just that. its a scary thing but part of the process. go easy and relax.

good luck to you

Feb 22, 2011
Yes I know everyone's pain threshhold is different
by: Matt

But thanks for the reminder :) Am I impatient? Maybe, but it is the minor setbacks that make this whole "experience" nerve racking. I do all of the exercises given to me by my PT and try to perform them exactly the same way. But could it be that one time when my thumb is tilted too far to the left when doing "I" raises and my shoulder decides that it doesn't want to work anymore?

Oh well I don't see my Ortho until next month so I'll just give him an earful.

Mar 15, 2011
SLAP repair symtoms - post op
by: Tim

It's been very interesting reading all the responses. I had SLAP repair 10/25/10 (also removed bone spurs and "cleaned up" biceps tendon fraying). After reading all the posts, all I can say is "be patient" and "work through it". I know many don't want to hear that, but it seems to be working....for me anyway. I can't tell you how many times during PT that I thought I re-injured the repair, only to be told "you're right on schedule". And I'll have to say, so far the doctor and physical therapist have been right. Currently I'm experiencing "catching" in the repaired shoulder, but fully expect it to go away after continued stretching and strength exercises. My doc tells me that it's "scar tissue" that needs to "wear-off" and then the "catching" will slowly go away (it seems to be getting less each day). He is telling me to expect closer to 12 months before I get to the point of forgetting I even had surgery.

My final thoughts.....if your doc says you didn't re-injure the repair, you probably didn't (much of my pain was associated with rebuilding muscles that were affected by atrophy).....keep pushing through it with stretching (can't tell you how important continued stretching is) and strength exercises, and be patient.

Mar 15, 2011
waiting
by: flip

THanks for the uplift. Hope you do well.

Mar 18, 2011
retorn slap 2 repair
by: Anonymous

To all those concerned about re-tearing their repair, all I can say is the gentleman who said you would fall to your knees in excrutiating pain is correct. I had a slap 2 repair, bicep tendon repair and acromialplasty on Dec. 30, 2010. Eight weeks into recovery there was an explosion from our heating monitor in our home. I was standing only 1 inch from the unit. It scared me so bad that I jumped out of the way and ran. Instantly I knew bad things were happening with my shoulder. Pain just continued to get worse over next two weeks. It was sharp and throbbing, once again hard to sleep at night. P.T. became very painful with no progress being made. Just had an MRI with contrast last week. Yes, indeed I retore my surgery and have a new bicep tear. Needless to say I'm extremely disappointed. My surgeon sent me home to try P.T. again, but three sessions in and I'm still experiencing a lot of pain. So, it's looking like my only option is to go in and repair my slap 2 surgery and fix the new tendon tear. Has anyone had to go through this so early after their intial repair? Will recovery be worse than the original repair 2 1/2 months ago. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Mar 19, 2011
very odd
by: Anonymous

why would your doctor tell you to go back to pt is you have a test that confirmed the tear? that makes zero sense. you cannot pt a bicep or shoulder tear. sounds odd.

Mar 19, 2011
very odd
by: Anonymous

why would your doctor tell you to go back to pt is you have a test that confirmed the tear? that makes zero sense. you cannot pt a bicep or shoulder tear. sounds odd.

Mar 19, 2011
retorn slap 2 repair
by: Anonymous

MRI Report: Prior labral tear repair. Suggestion of posterosuperior peripheral laabral reteraring versus operative fenestration. Mid-supraspinatus tendon partial thickness tear. This occurs in the same region as the previously-seen high-grade supraspinatus tendon tear and may represent postoperative repair, however extensive contrast intravasation intok this defect is appreciated on present exam. New proximal long head biceps tendon high-grade partial thickness tearing. I am also confused. My Dr. has a very hard time communicating. That's why I'm on this site. I'd like to know if I should be getting this all repaired asap.

Mar 20, 2011
get a new doctor
by: Anonymous

if you cant communicate with your doctor i would suggest you get a new one. this is very serious stuff and you should have all the data and a good relationship with your doctor on this.

Mar 22, 2011
Surgery within a few weeks
by: Anonymous-1

Hi. I read this whole thread. I am in my mid-50s, pulling the 90-gallon garbage pails up a step concrete and brick ramp as I do each week for an alley pick up. Well, it had rained the night before; I was in my PJs and slippers walking the garbage cans backwards when I slipped and fell. I have full thickness tearing of the supraspinatus and infraspinatus tendons with medial retraction of torn fibers to the level of joint line. I have Moderate grade articular sided partial tearing of the subscapularis tendon; moderate grade intrasubstance partial teaing of the intra-artiular portion of the biceps tendon, and moderate fluid in the glenohumeral joint.

And, there is moderate to sever osteoarthiritis of the acromioclavicular joint. (By the way, it is my right shoulder).

The injury was three months ago. I am managing; the first month was terrible pain. Now my orthopedic doctor wants to do surgery with those clamps I read about in previous posts. I hope I'm making the right decision to go ahead with the surgery. I am concerned that without the surgery, as I grow older into my 60s, 70s, and 80s, that the right arm will be useless to me. Any suggestions? Thanks. I changed my default name by adding a "1" to it :P Thanks again, readers of this thread.

Mar 31, 2011
5 month update
by: SLAP me silly

Its strange to realize I haven't checked this forum for a couple months. Today I'm 5 months post-op from a 5 anchor SLAP tear and Bankart lesion, 90% thickness supraspinatus tear with acromial decompression. Been out of PT for about 6 weeks now and doing more at home now than ever before. I feel like I've had my third major breakthrough (first at 3 weeks when I could finally lie flat on my back, second at about 2 months when I could lift my arm above shoulder height). Today I paddled out for my third surf in almost 7 months and it felt pretty good. My first go was a bit premature and therefore a bit frustrating, but today was much better. Shoulder feels plenty stable and strength is returning. I still work hard everyday to maintain flexibility and build strength and its starting to show. I offer this update not to brag, but to give some hope and encouragement to others in this situation. A recovery of this type is a very difficult process and deserves as much attention, motivation, and discipline you can muster. Forget the minor setbacks, the constant pain, and the daily variation in progress. Stay positive and focused and keep up the good work.

Apr 05, 2011
this forum
by: Anonymous

I wish I would have seen this forum before I had the surgery because my doctor didn't tell me what to expect. It is a live and learn kind of thing. It is 5mos post surgery and I still experience some discomfort and it is the roller-coaster of symptoms that make this whole recovery process a big pain in the butt. So I just keep doing what I am doing and hoping for the best. Because if I ever have to have this type of procedure again I think I'll say no and find a way to manage life with the pain.

Apr 08, 2011
Firefighter chris
by: Eric

Chris I'm also a firefighter in a major city and need to have this surgery as well. Full labral tear and bicep rupture. Just curious how yours went, rehab etc and how it is getting back on the trucks.

Apr 08, 2011
Firefighter chris
by: Eric

Chris I'm also a firefighter in a major city and need to have this surgery as well. Full labral tear and bicep rupture. Just curious how yours went, rehab etc and how it is getting back on the trucks.

Apr 19, 2011
Having Arthroscopis Rotator Cuff Sugery
by: Anonymous

Having dominant shoulder repaired next week. Can anyone let me know what to expect for the first week or two. Basic can's and can'ts in everyday life?

Apr 19, 2011
Within the First Few Days
by: Robert

Your shoulder will be bandaged and in a sling for the first few days. After the first 24 hours the nerve block will wear off. I did not have much pain at all, but I took the oxycondine that was prescribed. But they say you should take the pain meds before any onset of pain. The idea is to keep the medication flowing through you. About 48 hours after surgery you will be able to remove the bandages and change the dressing. My doctor had me in therapy the Monday after surgery. My surgery was on a Friday. I started with pendulum swings mainly. But you'll be in the sling overall for 6 weeks. I had mine off the day after Thanksgiving 2010. My surgery was Friday, October 15. I was in therapy from right after surgery till the end of January. I started lifting weights at the end of January and things have come along nicely so far. Probably the worst part is sleeping. I am a stomach sleeper and adjusting to sleeping on my back/side was a pain to say the least. Good luck and listen to the doctor.

Apr 21, 2011
Sling vs. letting it hang.
by: Clyde

I've just come out of arthoscopic repair of a full thickness tear in my left rotator cuff (infraspinatus, the supraspinatus was to athophied to repair)performed 4/18/11. I was given a simple sling and instructions to take the arm out of the sling several times a day and swing it gently in a pendalum motion while leaning over. I meet with the PT in a couple of days. My question is do I really need to keep the arm in a sling when hanging about the house? I prefer to just not use the arm or raise it and let it dangle or rest in my lap. Even when I have it in a sling I find myself unconciously supporting it with my arm muscles an inch higher the the sling would hold it. Of course when I go out and about I where the sling.

Apr 21, 2011
Around house without sling. (Clyde)
by: Anonymous

I think you would be ok sitting around the house without the sling. I personally had mine on almost all the time, except to shower and dress. I was just being extra cautious I guess. But if you were sitting on the couch you could keep it proped up with a pillow. The sling is very uncomfortable, especially during sleep. Just make sure if you do go without it, you use your other hand to move your arm, so you don't accidently jerk the repaired arm.

Apr 22, 2011
Re: Having Arthroscopis Rotator Cuff Sugery
by: Matt

Well I can tell you from experience that you can expect inconsistency in the whole healing process. It is a roller coast ride. One day you'll be relatively pain free and doing the exercises prescribed by the PT and then the next you'll be wondering if you re-injured it. I have learned that this is the nature of the beast. You'll need to strive for perfection, your form(in doing the exercises) must be absolutely correct - stray from that and your shoulder will remind you that it is still in control of your life.

I've chatted with lots of people and one of them told me that he had the surgery six years ago and he still can feel the affects if he does something not quite to perfect form.

Whenever you get it done remember to stay motivated even if you feel like all you want to do is lay in bed. Keep that shoulder moving, muscle atrophy is a right royal pain. If you do not have anyone to assist you in your "early stage" ROM(Range of Motion) exercise here is a ideal. Do like I did and tie a rope around your affected arm's wrist and using the shower rod in the bathroom move your arm that way. Trust me I was able to lift my arm above my head a 2months. But then again I was in pretty good shape before the surgery and I absolutely despise being an invalid.

Some would say that I have pushed myself to hard but it is slowly but surely getting better. I worried for awhile that I re-injured it by being too aggressive but my Doc told me that he put a few extra tacks in there for good measure so it would take a serious jarring to break that free.

Apr 27, 2011
good info from u all
by: Anonymous


I'm on my 7th week rotator cuff tear surgery, have been in pt for 4 weeks, yes it hurts, but my arm is measuring out further. at first the doc told me I'd be back surfing in three months, I'm athletic, but three months seems a bit premature.
Hope your all doing well, keep up the work.

Apr 27, 2011
good info from u all
by: Anonymous


I'm on my 7th week rotator cuff tear surgery, have been in pt for 4 weeks, yes it hurts, but my arm is measuring out further. at first the doc told me I'd be back surfing in three months, I'm athletic, but three months seems a bit premature.
Hope your all doing well, keep up the work.

May 13, 2011
Firefighting and surgery
by: fdronald

I read that some of the posts were from FFs. I am also a paid municiple ff and had surgery one week ago 5/6/11. My dr. has been great in explaining the whole surgery and recovery phases. I will start pt on Mon. 5/16/11 and I am doing everything that has been suggested. Depending on progression of healing my dr. has said that I should be back at the dept. on light-duty at three months and back on full duty in app. 6 months. Note that I am also a triathlete and was in great shape previous to surgery. As a matter of fact one of my biggest pains before surgery was the pain experienced while swimming. I have a marathon scheduled for 11/19/11 and my dr. has said that barring any set backs that goal is realistic. My injury was a full-thickness tear of the suprspinatus w/a small bone spur and he also cleaned up the shoulder...labrum and other tendons all looked good. Arthroscoptic only no mini or full open required. I have had some pain especially while trying to sleep and only take pain meds before laying down at night w/ the exception of advil. Have been icing regular basis and it does help. I have had two broken ankle, two open back surgeries, an now this all while being a paid ff. I see no reason why I would not recover from this as well. Patience is a virtue and much needed to recover completely.

May 13, 2011
Moving Right Along
by: Clyde

I'm a 61 year old man in week 4 since an arthroscopic repair of a full thickness tear of the infraspinatus rotator muscle and I am using the pulley 3-4 times daily to raise my arm to the top of the door in one exercise and in a second exercise to raise my arm towards the back of the opposite shoulder. My PT says I am progressing well with extraordinary flexibility considering the stage that I am at. I have always been physically fit so I just could not give up completely my exorcise routine. I still fast walk an hour 3-4 times a week with the arm swinging loose beneath the effected shoulder. I look at this as passive therapy similar to the pulley. I also am at the gym 2 days a week doing lite resistance exercises that don't involve the repaired muscle and 30 minutes on the elliptical machine with my effected arm riding passively on the handle of the elliptical machine, which in my opinion is also similar to the passive pulley therapy. And the sling? I don't recommend this and neither would your PT, but I have stopped wearing the sling. The sling more than anything else is a reminder not to move your arm in the wrong direction, because as flimsy as it is, it could never actually prevent the wrong movement. I feel confident of not doing that without the encumbrance of the sling and so far so good although my PT frowns. The pain hasn't been bad at all and I dropped the vicadin a week after surgery. I'm taking ibuprofen in the afternoon and before bed. The latest prescribed pulley movement described above and initiated 2 days ago has stressed the muscle more than previously, so the resting pain factor has gone up a bit. I'm hoping that changes. My big sacrifice for this has been golf. It's been a month without golf so far and several months ahead without golf. Bummer! Good luck to all of you out there going through this healing process.

May 13, 2011
It gets better
by: Anonymous

Apirl 25th is 6 months post-op (SLAP repair, biceps fraying clean-up, bone spurs removed) Every month is getting better and better. I've had "catching" in the shoulder since day one, post-op, but just as the doc said, it should get less and less the more I rehab. He said it is scare tissue that needs to wear away, and each week it gets to be less and less "catching". All I can say is "keep doing the stretching and rehab as it WILL get better". What helped me, instead of setting deadlines, I simply compared my shoulder to where it 1 or 2 weeks prior. That helped greatly, as it gave me an honest comparison point. I'm coaching baseball (throwing pitches to the kids every practice) and more importantly, I'm golfing a couple of times a week now. Good luck to you all, and KEEP REHABBING! It does get better.

May 16, 2011
Labral Debridement
by: spanky

Have a tear in my labrum, surgeon is pretty sure it will only require a debridement and no anchors. i certainly hope this is the case, i just wondered if anybody here had had this procedure done and what was their experience? recovery time etc

May 16, 2011
full tear and AC repair
by: Anonymous

I had a repair in my dominant arm for a full tear in my rotator cuff & my AC joint 4 months ago. I do the exercises from my PT faithfully ( bands, light weights, stretching, ect...) and my arm feels stronger than my other one already and I have a full range of motion back. The arm feels great and I rarely feel it, although I never sleep on that side because it feels weird and then I feel some pain in it. I am a tennis player and I was told I could hit a tennis ball against a wall. Does anyone know if that means that I can hit ground strokes??? I know anything overhead is out until the 6 month mark. It was a long process that I don't want to go through again, but tennis is such great mental therapy for me and I miss it. Any tennis players who have gone through the surgery. I would love your feedback. Thanks!

May 16, 2011
full tear and AC repair
by: Anonymous

I had a repair in my dominant arm for a full tear in my rotator cuff & my AC joint 4 months ago. I do the exercises from my PT faithfully ( bands, light weights, stretching, ect...) and my arm feels stronger than my other one already and I have a full range of motion back. The arm feels great and I rarely feel it, although I never sleep on that side because it feels weird and then I feel some pain in it. I am a tennis player and I was told I could hit a tennis ball against a wall. Does anyone know if that means that I can hit ground strokes??? I know anything overhead is out until the 6 month mark. It was a long process that I don't want to go through again, but tennis is such great mental therapy for me and I miss it. Any tennis players who have gone through the surgery. I would love your feedback. Thanks!

May 18, 2011
6mo Post op
by: Matt

6mos post op - does anyone else experience discomfort in their shoulder with a secondary pain at the inside of the elbow? Well it seems to be flaring up on and off again for me and was just curious if anyone has had the same experience with it. Along with this I sometimes get a numbing sensation in my forearm reaching down to the wrist. Yes I've talked to my Dr. about this and all he ever says is: "That's normal" and "you're recovery is progressing just fine." My doctor also said that the muscles along the rear of my shoulder cradle take the longest to heal, which I'm OK with but considering the discomfort I feel really reminds me of the way it was pre-surgery.

May 30, 2011
SLAP Type II- one anchor
by: Julio

Hello!
Had a SLAP type II repair last Monday (23 May 11). So far, it has been better than anticipated. OS prescribed pendulum/ elbow flexion/ extension exercises the day after surgery (with sling, of course). Pain has been controllable. Will see the OS in four days for removal of sutures and follow up. Will keep posting as rehab professes. Good luck to everyone and God bless!

May 30, 2011
SLAP Type II- one anchor
by: Julio

Hello!
Had a SLAP type II repair last Monday (23 May 11). So far, it has been better than anticipated. OS prescribed pendulum/ elbow flexion/ extension exercises the day after surgery (with sling, of course). Pain has been controllable. Will see the OS in four days for removal of sutures and follow up. Will keep posting as rehab professes. Good luck to everyone and God bless!

May 30, 2011
SLAP Type II- one anchor
by: Julio

Hello!
Had a SLAP type II repair to fix a torn labrum Monday (23 May 11). So far, it has been better than anticipated. OS prescribed pendulum/ elbow flexion/ extension exercises the day after surgery (with sling, of course). Pain has been controllable. Will see the OS in four days for removal of sutures and follow up. Will keep posting as rehab progresses. Good luck to everyone and God bless!

May 30, 2011
Total shoulder replacement
by: Fernus

I had complete shoulder replacement five months ago...and even tho I am doing quite well.....good range of motion....my shoulder hurts right on the incision. Is this normal?

May 31, 2011
Hey Fernus
by: Anonymous

Fernus, I experienced that for the month or so where it was sensitive to the touch but after awhile it went away. Good luck with your recovery it is a slow tedious process. My Doctor told me that you can't look at it as day by day thing but as a week by week or even month by month. Because the while rehab is like being on a roller-coaster, ups and downs. I struggled with it for at least a couple of months but then just gave in and said that it wasn't worth worrying about. I do the exercises and if it feels great the next day awesome if not well correct what you did last time and try again

May 31, 2011
Thank you
by: Fernus

Thank you for your info......I think I am just
a bit over anxious as I have to have the other shoulder done also soon....AND not looking forward to that at all. I really do appreciate your input!!!

Jun 14, 2011
shoulder surgery
by: Flavio Vincenti

Hi,

I just go shoulder surgry a week ago and this morning I almost fell and instinctively I moved my shoulder abruptly.

Should I be worried that something happend when I moved it?

THank you

Jun 25, 2011
Surgery damage
by: David

Had surgery 3 days ago. Got startled this morning and jerked my shoulder. Ant chance I damaged the stitches or anchors?

Jun 25, 2011
slap repair
by: Anonymous

David- you should be ok. Just mae sure you let the OS know about it during your first post op visit. I had SLAP repair 5 weks ago; one anchor. During the first week, I rode the stationary bike too hard and hit my elbow with my knee. Nedless to say, the pain shot through my shoulder and I thought the stitches were torn. Don't worry about it, but MAKE SURE you follow the guidelines accordingly. Take care!

Julio

Jun 25, 2011
15 Weeks Post Shoulder Surgery
by: Ann

Man, am I glad I found this website! Surgery was March 10. Left shoulder. Arthroscopic debridement, subacromial decompression, partial distal clavicle excision and rotator cuff repair.

I'm reading my Procedure Report and I'm finding only 1(?) anchor used.

Like Matt said, this is a roller coaster ride. I just had ANOTHER breakdown a few minutes ago. I was in my sling 8 weeks. Did pendulum, shoulder shrugs, tummy rubs and saw-motion excercises the day after surgery. I was in pretty good shape before, I'm a flight attendant and had been working out regularly. Pain was worse than my ACL surgery 3 years ago. Thank God my pain isn't too bad now, but it is when I overdo it.

I went to PT the first 8 weeks 3 x a week after that 2 x a week. I have now started lifting light weights and have been doing resistance exercises. (Rows, one armed rows, etc.) Just this past week I finally did planks and it felt good. Still aches at night after PT/working out but I figure it will be that way for a while.

However, today is Saturday and on Thursday night, I dropped a Tylenol bottle with my right hand and reached out to grab it with my left. Painful. Iced right away. Did my stretches Friday and was trying to do them today with some exercises and my shoulder really hurts. Right at the deltoid muscle it's really tight so I kept doing my stretches hoping it would help, and it hasn't. Now my right wrist hurts very badly letting me know that I overdid it. Would it be normal for the delt to hurt so badly trying to catch something?

Full ROM, by the way, the only thing I can't do is unhook my bra. I'm in panic mode because the Doc did not clear me to go back to work when I saw him June 14 because of my lack of strength. As a flight attendant I have to be able to lift at least 20 pounds overhead. He told me before the surgery it would be 3-6 months before I can go back but I was really looking forward to going back at 3 months, and that's not going to happen.

I'm very frustrated.

Jun 25, 2011
15 Weeks Post Shoulder Surgery
by: Ann

Man, am I glad I found this website! Surgery was March 10. Left shoulder. Arthroscopic debridement, subacromial decompression, partial distal clavicle excision and rotator cuff repair.

I'm reading my Procedure Report and I'm finding only 1(?) anchor used.

Like Matt said, this is a roller coaster ride. I just had ANOTHER breakdown a few minutes ago. I was in my sling 8 weeks. Did pendulum, shoulder shrugs, tummy rubs and saw-motion excercises the day after surgery. I was in pretty good shape before, I'm a flight attendant and had been working out regularly. Pain was worse than my ACL surgery 3 years ago. Thank God my pain isn't too bad now, but it is when I overdo it.

I went to PT the first 8 weeks 3 x a week after that 2 x a week. I have now started lifting light weights and have been doing resistance exercises. (Rows, one armed rows, etc.) Just this past week I finally did planks and it felt good. Still aches at night after PT/working out but I figure it will be that way for a while.

However, today is Saturday and on Thursday night, I dropped a Tylenol bottle with my right hand and reached out to grab it with my left. Painful. Iced right away. Did my stretches Friday and was trying to do them today with some exercises and my shoulder really hurts. Right at the deltoid muscle it's really tight so I kept doing my stretches hoping it would help, and it hasn't. Now my right wrist hurts very badly letting me know that I overdid it. Would it be normal for the delt to hurt so badly trying to catch something?

Full ROM, by the way, the only thing I can't do is unhook my bra. I'm in panic mode because the Doc did not clear me to go back to work when I saw him June 14 because of my lack of strength. As a flight attendant I have to be able to lift at least 20 pounds overhead. He told me before the surgery it would be 3-6 months before I can go back but I was really looking forward to going back at 3 months, and that's not going to happen.

I'm very frustrated.

Jun 28, 2011
I'm glad I'm not the only one
by: Matt

Hey Ann,

I know what you mean about being frustrated. This whole experience is definitely a challenge. I am 7mos out since surgery and now my shoulder is "catching" like crazy and cracking every time I move my arm in any direction in my ROM. It never used to do that. I don't see my doctor till October and his last advice to me was "continue to strengthen your shoulder" so that is what I have been doing. Started doing some overhead work(shoulder presses 15-30lbs and shoulder raises 5lbs) and that was when the catching and cracking started. It makes me wonder if I had waited till my doctor's visit would it still behave the same way.

One of my biggest pains is the bicep tendon and I always wonder why he removed the bursa sac because whenever I "tweak" the shoulder the bicep tendon inflames and causes discomfort. This will last for several weeks even with icing, stretching, massaging, and taking ibuprofen.

I try to tell myself that it is always darkest before the dawn and hopefully one day I'll turn the corner. Only thing is I believe this whole rehab process is a circle. So I'll keep at it and try to remain positive but that sometimes is a challenge.

Jun 28, 2011
Thank You
by: Ann

Hey Matt...thank you. I appreciate the fact that you understand how I feel.

I meant to say my left wrist gets fired up when I overdo it.

Had PT yesterday, and I am in PAIN! I feel like I did 2 months ago! Can barely raise my arm, much less move it. It's so bad I want to call my Doc and ask about another Hydrocodone refill, but I was denied 2 weeks ago. I do have Tramadol, but it's not helping.

My PT thinks I have fired up my rotator cuff. I'm pretty sure he's right because like I said, I feel exactly like I did about a month after surgery. Also, yesterday when I was able to move my left arm, I felt a clicking or popping in my shoulder. Great.

Wow. I can't believe it's almost been a year since your surgery Matt and your shoulder is still fired up. I'm sorry. :(

Jun 28, 2011
Thank You
by: Ann

Hey Matt...thank you. I appreciate the fact that you understand how I feel.

I meant to say my left wrist gets fired up when I overdo it.

Had PT yesterday, and I am in PAIN! I feel like I did 2 months ago! Can barely raise my arm, much less move it. It's so bad I want to call my Doc and ask about another Hydrocodone refill, but I was denied 2 weeks ago. I do have Tramadol, but it's not helping.

My PT thinks I have fired up my rotator cuff. I'm pretty sure he's right because like I said, I feel exactly like I did about a month after surgery. Also, yesterday when I was able to move my left arm, I felt a clicking or popping in my shoulder. Great.

Wow. I can't believe it's almost been a year since your surgery Matt and your shoulder is still fired up. I'm sorry. :(

Jun 28, 2011
Thank You
by: Ann

Hey Matt...thank you. I appreciate the fact that you understand how I feel.

I meant to say my left wrist gets fired up when I overdo it.

Had PT yesterday, and I am in PAIN! I feel like I did 2 months ago! Can barely raise my arm, much less move it. It's so bad I want to call my Doc and ask about another Hydrocodone refill, but I was denied 2 weeks ago. I do have Tramadol, but it's not helping.

My PT thinks I have fired up my rotator cuff. I'm pretty sure he's right because like I said, I feel exactly like I did about a month after surgery. Also, yesterday when I was able to move my left arm, I felt a clicking or popping in my shoulder. Great.

Wow. I can't believe it's almost been a year since your surgery Matt and your shoulder is still somewhat messed up. I hope the clicking goes away.

Jun 28, 2011
I'm Sorry
by: Ann

Guys, I'm sorry I have so many posts. For some reason my computer does not like this site. I always have to refresh after I submit.

Jul 05, 2011
2 weeks post opt pain returned
by: Jeff

I am so glad to have found this website. I had surgery 3 weeks ago. After the numb block wore off, i had some pain, took vicodin for 2 days and then was on advil/tylenol up through today. Pain at Rest was a 0, 3 days out. Pain during small PT exercises, was a 3. However, almost 2 weeks exactly after surgery arm hurts much worse (pain level 6) during my small pt exercises and getting in/out of my sling. I see the Doc for my first post op appt this week and am hoping to hear what many of you have heard... It is normal, or expect the roller coaster of pain.....

Jul 05, 2011
response to Jeff's comments
by: Julio

Jeff- pain will intensify as you engage the shoulder during pt exercises. I am 6 wk post op; pain before the sling came off was between 0-3. Now, since I was cleared by the os to become more agressive with Rom and RC exercises, pain has gone slightly up (maybe 4). The point here is that you will experience some pain and disconfort following pt. But remember, stop if the pain is too intense and lingers for a while after pt is done. Make sure you follow the os guidance regarding maximun allowed range of motion. Its a long process; have perseverance, patience and williness to get better!

Julio

Jul 05, 2011
response to Jeff's comments
by: Julio

Jeff- pain will intensify as you engage the shoulder during pt exercises. I am 6 wk post op; pain before the sling came off was between 0-3. Now, since I was cleared by the os to become more agressive with Rom and RC exercises, pain has gone slightly up (maybe 4). The point here is that you will experience some pain and disconfort following pt. But remember, stop if the pain is too intense and lingers for a while after pt is done. Make sure you follow the os guidance regarding maximun allowed range of motion. Its a long process; have perseverance, patience and williness to get better!

Julio

Jul 10, 2011
SLAP repair..
by: Rob

Hi. I had a SLAP...posterior labral repair just over 2 weeks ago. I had 3 anchors. My doc said I also have developed frozen shoulder and that will delay my recovery..beyond the 3-4 mth norm. Has anyone else experienced this along with SLAP repair ? The pain is getting easier each day, but sleeping is quite difficult. I can feel the repair suture under the skin which feels a bit weird..has anyone else experienced this ? If so will I always be able to feel this ? I am so paranoid about damaging my repair so trying to be ultra cautious!! Cheers Rob

Jul 11, 2011
TIngling in elbow and fingers
by: Chris

Hello all!

I am 7 weeks post-op for a SLAP TYPE II repair. Pain has been minimal during the past few weeks. However, I am experiencing elbow and hand tingling sensation after ROM and RC strengthening exercises. Also, I been feeling a deep pain in the joint (same pain I had prior to surgery) after conducting abduction movements. Has anyone experienced same symptoms? I am afraid that the labrum was reinjured while doing PT. Looking forward for any advice and insight. Thanks!

Chris

Jul 17, 2011
7 weeks post op SLAP repair
by: Tammy

I'm at week 7 post op from SLAP repair, debridment, subacromial decompression, and bone spur removal. I still have significant pain in the middle of my bicep, the top of my shoulder, and the muscles around my shoulder and neck are extremely tight.
I am unable to get good deep sleep as I wake up at least every 3 hours in major pain and have to readjust my self.
My Dr.'s approach was very different from what everyone elses was apparently. When I went in to have my stitches removed he told me to loose the sling immediately, he doesn't believe in them. He said they slow ROM recovery and increase chance of frozen shoulder. He said he has confidence in his repair to begin using my arm as much as possible. Only restriction was to not lift anything heavy (pretty vague), and to not make any throwing motions.
My PT was more shocked than I that he said that but cool, whatever.
I was able to lift my arm over my head easily by week 2 without pain. Completely unable to reach behind my back or place my hand on my hips...strange.
The aching and pain that I feel in my bicep and top of the shoulder area is what is breaking me. It interferes with my sleep which just makes it that much worse. I am still taking pain meds to deal with the pain it's that intense at times. I only wonder if this is because of my doctors aggressive approach to using my arm or if it's completely normal? Seems like so many people have such random different experiences that even though these forums are nice to see that you aren't alone, it's pretty much just useless to help see where you are compared to others. Just want to be without pain at some point again soon.....

Jul 19, 2011
Somebody stop this crazy thing
by: Matt

The roller coaster continues and I am so looking forward to a day, a week, and a year without some level of discomfort. My shoulder saddle(Infraspinatus, Supraspinatus, Subscapularis, and Teres Minor) will not let go and the pain signature is the same as it was prior to my surgery. I want to go to my Ortho but I'm sure all he is going to say is: "That's completely normal." I don't like to bad talk anyone but he's pretty much mailing this one in....Oh and collecting my insurance money as well.

Jul 19, 2011
right there with you Matt
by: Jeff B

I'm feeling your pain Matt (literally!). Today is my 8th month anniversary of slap + r/cuff + spur work and I'm not sure it doesn't hurt WORSE now. I've stayed optimistic and I've been very loyal to the PT from day 1, but I still haven't had a single restful night of sleep. There are certainly some days better than others, but it is getting more and more difficult to assume the crunching and snapping and the searing pain will just magically go away soon. Doc said "9 mos to a year before a day of pain free", so I still have a glimmer of hope that all this will work!

Jul 19, 2011
3 Months And Doing Well
by: Clyde From Sacramento

I'm 61 and I celebrated 3 months of post surgery life 3 days ago and everything is progressing quite nicely. (full, massive tear of infraspinatus repaired and superspinatus fully torn but unrepairable, left shoulder). I have only some soreness left but no major pain and a good range of motion. Aleve once or twice a day is nice but I could actually go without it if necessary. The strength is still far from what a healthy shoulder would be and probally never will be the same. I played golf a couple of times and that causes some extra ache. I worked very hard on my physical therapy for 3 months going far beyond what was required with many extra minutes of standard pully and rubber band, long walks while constantly excercising my shoulder, lite resistance training and working in the swimming pool. Physical conditioning really helps for if you were phyically fit previous to your tear you will have a better outcome because you're used to working your body. I think the skill of the surgeon is also paramount to a successful and satisfactory result. My surgeon, Dr. Stephen Webber of Sacramento, is one of the best arthroscopic shoulder guys in the business.

Jul 19, 2011
Brain Injury
by: FL Hokie

My husband has posted on this site after his first shoulder surgery last May. He then had two more surgeries to remove scar tissue. On his third surgery he went into cardiac arrest and now has a brain injury. He is 34 and has what is called an anoxic brain injury. It was an unfortunate error on the behalf of the anesthiologist. Its really sad but wanted you to know since he posted here.

Jul 20, 2011
Sorry to hear...
by: Fernus

So so sorry to hear about Brians unfortunate experience.....I sincerely hope he may gain some recovery....My feelings go to you also, his wife, as that is a hard thing to deal with.....Hang in there!!!!

Aug 18, 2011
8 weeks post repair
by: Suz

I am nw 8 weeks post rotator cuff repair (2 cm full thickness tear in dominant shoulder - Supraspinatus). On the weekend I inadvertantly attempted to grab something that was falling and moved my arm in a direction I know I wasn't supposed to move it in (happened before I knew it). Now, maybe related or maybe unrelated, I am getting a SEVERE SEARING pain in my outer arm when i rotate the arm inwards even slightly. The PT thinks I pinched something and din't reinjure as he said I wouldn't be able to life my arm if I reinjured and I my ROM is still good...but this extreme searing pain is worrying. Did anyone else experience this kind of severe pain in the outer arm? This recovery is turning out to be much longer than i expected!

Aug 20, 2011
Swimming?
by: Brett

4+ two days into Slap 2 surgery. I'm staying strict with the therapy protocol, but I'm wondering about hanging out in a pool, keeping arm within recommended ROM?

Anybody?

Aug 20, 2011
Swatted a wasp! Freaking out about retear
by: mugz

Hi all,

I had a slap type 2 op two weeks ago with a small tear in my labrum repaired.

Today from out of no where a wasp was in my face and my natural reaction was to raise my arm suddently, it's the highest and quickest ive raised my arm since surgery and i felt a bit of pain.

I'm freaking out now that ive messed it up, i can't tell if ive damaged it or not I'd love to just get another MRI but i doubt its that simple.

What are the symptoms for a retair?

Aug 21, 2011
pain in first two weeks
by: Brett

Hey Mugz -

I swatted a mosquito 2 weeks into my SLAP surgery and it hurt like hell - my arm, not the mosquito. I'm at 4 weeks now and progressing fine. Give it a couple of weeks and see how you're doing when the first four weeks of healing is over.

Aug 23, 2011
RE: Brett and Swimming
by: Rich

At 8 weeks, my surgeon told me I could walk (wade) in the swimming pool, but absolutely no swimming of any kind. I have stayed out of pools, but did wade in a shallow lake. I am an avid tennis player but will not be allowed to even hit a ball until 9 months. I had rotator cuff repair and biceps tendon repair.

Aug 25, 2011
Have to do it again!
by: Darrell

I had RC surgery April 26th and was recovering nicely. I had little or no pain 2 months out and the Dr said I could stop PT at 3 months and start working out on my own with very little weight and no bench workouts. I was going along fine when I reached into my trunk to grab something and felt what I thought was a pinch. Turns out I re-tore the interior portion and have to go through it all again. Anyone else have this unfortunate experience. I'm not sure knowing what to expect is good or bad!

Aug 25, 2011
Sorry to hear that Darrell
by: Matt

I'm hoping that I will not have to undergo the procedure again but since everyday I feel some level of discomfort the possibility is always on my mind. Just so you know I'm going on 10 months post op. I am working out on my own and I feel that my strength is good but due to some possible scar tissue or torn muscle in the shoulder saddle my recovery is less than optimal. I think I'm doing pretty good overall. Sometimes it still catches and there is certain movements that I have difficulty performing. Such as reaching behind my back with my palm facing in.

I have a follow-up on October 11th so I'll keep you posted. I still have some residual numbness on the upper part of my wrist and that sort of bothers me as well as the inability to sleep on my operated side.

Aug 25, 2011
Hey Darrell
by: mugz

Darrell sorry to hear that, can i ask how old you are and your general shape?

How did it feel once you did it? Did you notice pain/instability? How long before you saw the doctor again and got it assessed and how did he know?

Aug 26, 2011
right there with you Darrell
by: Anonymous

I've posted twice prior (37 yr old golfer). After the check up at 9 months the doc decided to scope again. After 6 months the progress was fine (still discomfort, but nearly 100% range of motion and getting stronger). 2 days after the six month date i had a little pop followed by some audible grinding. Doc is hoping just a scar tissue clean up but i'm not so sure. The surgery will be prepped as if a full repair of r/cuff and labrum is needed, but I won't know how it went until waking up afterwards. We are scheduled for surgery next week so I will update afterwards.

Sep 02, 2011
going ok
by: flip

Been some time since I have been on. Its been 7 months since my right side rotator surgery. Is there anybody out there with no pain or discomfort.Shoulder always feels odd.Have to do my left side in Oct. It is stronger then it was, do they ever come back normal.I do concrete work so I do beat on it quite a bit.

Sep 06, 2011
Mine acts weird too Flip
by: Matt

Still have some discomfort - seems like the muscles in the shoulder saddle just will not loosen up. Should still catches from time to time. Mind you I'm 10months post op. I do work out 3X a week and I chalk a lot of the pain/discomfort I feel to that. When I was 7months out I was pretty convinced that I screwed something up. It has gotten better but I suspect that this will take over a year for me to fully recover. Since I'm not doing any heavy overhead workout my upper back strength is out of proportion with my chest so that's probably a major contributor to my whole situation. I'm dreading the idea of having my left side done because I feel the same twinges on my left side as I do my right, fingers crossed

Sep 07, 2011
total shoulder replacement
by: Fernus

I wonder if anyone out there has had a complete shoulder replacement? I read a lot of rotators cuff
and have enjoyed what you write...but what about a complete shoulder replacement? I had my left done eight months ago, and it is doing good..a little discomfort down and again....but I am one week after having my right shoulder replaced. I think my left hurts a little becuz of over use this last week being the right is tied up. Has anyone done this and how do you feel after having it done?

Sep 07, 2011
Thanks
by: Anonymous

Thanks for the info. Good luck Matt if you do your left. Mine will be done on Oct 26th. Just more rehab and pain.

Sep 08, 2011
2nd surgery so far so good
by: JeffB (formerly Anon)

Originally posted after Nov '10 repair of SLAP and RC on left shoulder. Several follow ups regarding the progress thru 6 months post op and the regression over the past couple of months. Doc went back in 9/1/11 to "take a look" and expected about a 10 minute procedure. He took a little over an hour and cleaned out "excessive" scar tissue, some arthritis (37 yrs old), cut some adhesions loose, removed 3 large areas of bone spurring, and cut 1/4" from a/c joint. The original work was all holding solid, but was done 2 years after original injury. I was immobile for 30 days after that one, but was able to remove the sling on day 2 after this round. The shoulder is VERY sore and tight, but I've already started some light PT with more agressive work starting next week. The joint itself looks odd, but hopefully that is just swelling. Good luck everyone, and I'll write more after a couple of weeks rehabbing.

Sep 12, 2011
The real pain & scooter
by: The Italian job

Wow, what a great site this is and I had been thinking I was the only one. I am 3 weeks post op SLAP 2 and rotator cuff repair. I was doing quite ok, but started PT 1 week ago with lots of pain esp in the biceps after the PT session. This site shows me that pain is quite normal, but still don't understand why this pain in the biceps tendon.
I think the real pain is this constant fear of a re-tear and the thought going through this whole awful process once more. After reading this site I now know that the pain will be immense if you re-tear, haven't experienced that.
Living in Italy I am forced to take the bus again to work, where I was used to driving my scooter. Public transport isn't very good over here. Any word of advice when I could drive again (even a bike)? Dt. said 3 months, but I hope earlier.
Tip: check some of the post op clips on youtube. It was comforting to see we are not suffering alone.

Sep 18, 2011
Hospital for Shoulder Surgery in Thailand
by: Shahzad

The introduction by the medical community of arthroscopic surgery presented another huge leap forward, allowing the surgeon to avoid making the large incisions required by older, open surgery techniques. With arthroscopic surgery, the time required to heal the tissues surrounding the shoulder joint is reduced considerably versus with open surgery. Tiny incisions allow the surgeon to conduct the entire procedure using special tools that reach into the affected area and carry out the procedure. Hospital for Shoulder Surgery in Thailand

Sep 27, 2011
recovery time
by: Anonymous

Went to my ortho for another problem, tendonitis in my left elbow. And while I was there was told that the "average" recovery time(for Slap repair)is a year to a year and a half - So if you were wondering how long to expect, well there is your answer. My doctor also told me to lay off the weights for 2wks while my elbow heals and then go back at it at 75% of what I was able to do previously. A minor set back but I'm just going to keep doing what he says, even though he hasn't be very forthright in his information(I seem to get it piece meal).

Sep 28, 2011
Yay Bursitis - Not
by: Matt

Well on top of everything else I have to deal with - I now have to work on the onset of bursitis that has decided to inflict my shoulder. So I have been directed to cease my current work out regime and get the bursitis under control. Which will of course delay my recovery but what doesn't kill me only makes me stronger.

Sep 28, 2011
Hey Matt
by: Anonymous

Hi Matt, have you got a email or twitter or something? I'm having the same problems as you would be good to get your advice

Oct 01, 2011
Wow...so much information
by: Dea

I am so glad I found this site. I have learned a lot of information about recovery from this surgery.


I had my SLAP repair and burr removal on August 1 of this year. That would put me at 9 weeks post op. When I woke up out of surgery, all I saw was nurses. I expected the doctor or at least the other doctor that worked with him to be there to tell me how everything went and to give me instructions-like how to get dressed despite the sling. No such luck. So, the nurse tells me that the hubby and I can go in the bathroom and he can help me get dressed-but I'm not allowed to take the sling off. Still a little woozy from the drugs, I just stood in the bathroom gazing at the sling and wondering how on earth you're supposed to put a shirt on! When I tried to ask a nurse for advice, she just told me to go home in the hospital gown. I'm a big woman and well-endowed. I did not like going home in my hospital gown! So unprofessional! Once I arrived home, my brain was clear enough to see that the sling can be opened and a shirt put on. Would it have been so hard for the nurse to demonstrate?
As far as Physical therapy is concerned...I started at four weeks. I should have started at three, but they couldn't fit me in for an evaluation until the end of the third week. I went three times a week, and I started with a heat pack for 10 minutes. Then I had to use the pulley, then push my arm against the wall in different ways, then pendulum swings, then table stretches. All that took about forty minutes. The therapist would then do the stretches for about five minutes, and finally 15 minutes of ice and electro stimulation. After the four weeks of physical therapy, I transitioned to active movement exercises. Instead of the nice 10 minutes of heat, I now have to do the stationary bike without using my legs...all arm movement. At first I let my left arm do most of the work and the right arm was along for the ride, but now my right arm does most of the work. I still do the pulleys, but now I have to add exercises to stretch my arm behind my back. I do exercises with the rubber bands instead of the wall exercises. I pull the bands in different ways to strenghten the muscles. I still do the pendulum sways and table stretches, and I've added exercises with a bar. Basically, it's a broom handle and you lift it up in front of you, use your good arm to lift your bad arm to the side, then stretch behind you. I also do some shoulder stretches, which is holding on to a band with both hands and letting my shoulders pull the band tight. I was getting stretched out until this week when the PT said that my rom is normal and that he would not need to stretch me out again. I also still get the ice and shock therapy.
Good luck to you all. I love reading all the experiences, and I hope to never have to do this again!

Oct 11, 2011
Persistent pain after SLAP Repair
by: Kate

I am a 19 year old and had a SLAP repair done on my right shoulder on 11-23-10. My biceps tendon had been torn off the bone and had to be reattached with two anchors. I was in a sling/bump for almost 5 weeks and was in therapy for almost 3 months. I was able to play 4 games during my basketball season and was able to bat during my softball season. The problem is, I am almost 11 months post surgery and I have severe pain in the front, side, and back of my shoulder. The pain is worse now than what it was before surgery. My doctor ordered an MRI arthogram which showed nothing, and 6 weeks of physical therapy. The pain is worse now than before the physical therapy. I also have a severe popping/cracking which comes from the place where the injury was initially repaired. My question is has anyone else had the same problem almost a year after a SLAP repair?

Oct 12, 2011
reply for Kate
by: Jeff B

Hi Kate. Sorry to hear about your post-op trouble, but I've had a very similar reaction. My injury was over 2 years old when they FINALLY correctly diagnosed and repaired, so that may be the reason for my issues. I have a few posts regarding my rehab experiences but in short....i was feeling great after the first 3 or 4 months of PT but started having the cracking, popping, grinding, and pain you describe at around the 5 month post op point. My MRI showed nothing that bothered the doctor, but he went ahead and did a second scope "just to look". They found severe scarring, bone spurs, etc and cleaned it all out. My shoulder felt MUCH better within 48 hours and is now in the best shape of the past 3 years only 6 weeks after the second procedure. I would certainly ask your doctor about that option and I hope it all works out for you.

Oct 12, 2011
Reply to Jeff B.
by: Anonymous

Thanks Jeff! I went to the doctor today and he wants to do a EMG/NCV test which is a test to determine if I have nerve damage in the shoulder or not. He is not very optimistic about finding anything out and he is looking into scheduling surgery around Thanksgiving, which would be exactly a year since my first surgery. It is reasuring to hear that you were able to recover well and I am hoping to have similar results.

Oct 12, 2011
Reply to Jeff B.
by: Kate

The last post was from me. Some reason I couldn't put my name! Thanks again for giving me some hope!

Oct 12, 2011
I hurt!
by: fernace

I am six weeks post op from having my right shoulder replaced....total shoulder replacement.
I have been doing sooooo good, nice rom and very little pain. Finished my therapy yesterday......then last night I tried to get some ice cream and while scoping a pain shot through my shoulder like a knife cutting. Today I hurt all the way from my shoulder to my wrist...and cannot lift anything....even a plate. The nurse told me I likely strained a muscle and just to ice it, and heat it for a couple days and it should get better. I have no bumps that I can feel and no swelling. Has anyone else had this experience, and what did you do? Thanks....

Oct 30, 2011
major rotator cuff repair
by: Rick

Tore rotator July 5th, Dr. thought it wasn't torn. After 6 weeks I returned to Dr. he wanted to shoot me up with cortizone, I told him I wanted an MRI. Got that a week later, then it took another 4 days for him to read it. It revealed a massive tear. I got a different Dr. to do the surgery. Surgery was done on Sept. 22. I start PT this Wednesday (nov.2) .
I really enjoyed reading all these posts. They have answered alot of my questions and have helped me wrap my head around this recovery timeline. Hopefully I will be surfing and fishing again this summer.

Oct 30, 2011
major rotator cuff repair
by: Rick

Tore rotator July 5th, Dr. thought it wasn't torn. After 6 weeks I returned to Dr. he wanted to shoot me up with cortizone, I told him I wanted an MRI. Got that a week later, then it took another 4 days for him to read it. It revealed a massive tear. I got a different Dr. to do the surgery. Surgery was done on Sept. 22. I start PT this Wednesday (nov.2) .
I really enjoyed reading all these posts. They have answered alot of my questions and have helped me wrap my head around this recovery timeline. Hopefully I will be surfing and fishing again this summer.

Oct 30, 2011
major rotator cuff repair
by: Rick

Tore rotator July 5th, Dr. thought it wasn't torn. After 6 weeks I returned to Dr. he wanted to shoot me up with cortizone, I told him I wanted an MRI. Got that a week later, then it took another 4 days for him to read it. It revealed a massive tear. I got a different Dr. to do the surgery. Surgery was done on Sept. 22. I start PT this Wednesday (nov.2) .
I really enjoyed reading all these posts. They have answered alot of my questions and have helped me wrap my head around this recovery timeline. Hopefully I will be surfing and fishing again this summer.

Oct 30, 2011
major rotator cuff repair
by: Rick

Tore rotator July 5th, Dr. thought it wasn't torn. After 6 weeks I returned to Dr. he wanted to shoot me up with cortizone, I told him I wanted an MRI. Got that a week later, then it took another 4 days for him to read it. It revealed a massive tear. I got a different Dr. to do the surgery. Surgery was done on Sept. 22. I start PT this Wednesday (nov.2) .
I really enjoyed reading all these posts. They have answered alot of my questions and have helped me wrap my head around this recovery timeline. Hopefully I will be surfing and fishing again this summer.

Oct 30, 2011
major rotator cuff repair
by: Rick

Tore rotator July 5th, Dr. thought it wasn't torn. After 6 weeks I returned to Dr. he wanted to shoot me up with cortizone, I told him I wanted an MRI. Got that a week later, then it took another 4 days for him to read it. It revealed a massive tear. I got a different Dr. to do the surgery. Surgery was done on Sept. 22. I start PT this Wednesday (nov.2) .
I really enjoyed reading all these posts. They have answered alot of my questions and have helped me wrap my head around this recovery timeline. Hopefully I will be surfing and fishing again this summer.

Oct 30, 2011
shoulder pain
by: Fernus

Well, here I am two weeks later.....found out what I did to my shoulder getting ice cream out of the carton was I tore my bicep muscle......The therapist said I could either have it fixed with surgery, or do exercises to strengthen the other muscles to take over......which is what I think I shall do. I do have a nice lump on my arm.....maybe I can impress the guys with my "Muscle" when I flex my arm...because it sure does stand out!!

Oct 31, 2011
again
by: flip

well here I go again. Did my left shoulder. Only needed 2 anchor's. Had no bone spurs this time. I will see if it heals faster. Right one still seems a little off but I can live with it.

Dec 29, 2011
SLAP labrum, RCF Repair, Firefighter NEW
by: Tony

Chris, My situation is exactly what yours was. I am very curious to learn how you faired! I too had rotator cuf and labrum repair, and work for FD. Please let me know your outcome.

Jan 01, 2012
possible sublux post SLAP?? NEW
by: Connie

I had a SLAP repair done on my shoulder about 8 weeks ago, with a spur removal and debridement if the joint. I have been having problems sleeping since day 1, even with pain meds. Lately, I've been having a lot of pain around my shoulder blade and my physical therapist said I am having some "winging" from the muscle loss. My Dr does not want me to do any strengthening yet. This would be the only way to start fixing this problem, according to my therapist. Now, to get to my question...with the loss of muscle tone, is it possible to sublux your shoulder after a SLAP repair with a "tightening" of the joint? Last night while in bed, I rolled onto that shoulder, and it popped. It was locked and I was not able to move it with SEVERE pain. Or could this just be a severe spasm? I literally had to move it back into place with my opposite hand. Now having severe pain...

Jan 01, 2012
possible sublux post SLAP?? NEW
by: Connie

I had a SLAP repair done on my shoulder about 8 weeks ago, with a spur removal and debridement if the joint. I have been having problems sleeping since day 1, even with pain meds. Lately, I've been having a lot of pain around my shoulder blade and my physical therapist said I am having some "winging" from the muscle loss. My Dr does not want me to do any strengthening yet. This would be the only way to start fixing this problem, according to my therapist. Now, to get to my question...with the loss of muscle tone, is it possible to sublux your shoulder after a SLAP repair with a "tightening" of the joint? Last night while in bed, I rolled onto that shoulder, and it popped. It was locked and I was not able to move it with SEVERE pain. Or could this just be a severe spasm? I literally had to move it back into place with my opposite hand. Now having severe pain...

Jan 01, 2012
2nd Surgery in a Year NEW
by: Kate

I originally posted my comment of having persistent pain after a slap repair 11 months post surgery. My doctor had ordered another MRI and 6 weeks of physical therapy and nothing showed on the MRI and my pain was still present. My doctor decided the only option i had left was to go through another surgery. I had a biceps tendonesis done on 11/22/11, a day shy of year from my previous surgery. The biceps tendon that i had attached in my first surgery was moving out of its groove a lot more than what my doctor thought was normal. I am about 6 weeks post surgery now and my shoulder feels the best it has in over a year! I have almost all my ROM back and i am so happy i decided to go through with another surgery. If anyone else is struggling with a problem like mine, don't lose hope! I went through this for a year and i finally feel almost normal again!

Jan 04, 2012
14mos Post Surgery NEW
by: Matt

And have suffered yet another setback I cannot believe it. I was doing fine and then wham I lifted an empty suitcase and now I am experiencing pain in my arm that is very much like it was before the surgery. Of course I'll have to go back to my Ortho and he'll say "oh you just tweaked it" and yet he will give no direction as to how to prevent this from happening.

This really is the worst experience of my life and even though he has said that I am above the curve I'd hate to know what it is like to have a worse recovery. Anyone that says that they were back to being physically in 3months time is trying to sell you a load of BS

Jan 04, 2012
pain NEW
by: Flip

I totally agree. Right shoulder at 1 year and still has stints of pain and always pops. Left shoulder done in Oct with less done to it. Is not coming around at all. Tired of waiting

Jan 22, 2012
nervous NEW
by: TAMMY

hey im nervous can the doctor give me anything 1/26/12

Jan 26, 2012
SLAP tear, rotator cuff tear, labrum tear (UNREPAIRABLE) NEW
by: Anonymous

Arthroscopic surgery done for SLAP tear on dominant shoulder. There was more damage then MRI revealed. The labrum was torn completely, was derided and was unrepairable. I am at about 6 wks post-op, 4 wks of therapy. Pain is still severe..... Anybody experience this ?

Feb 17, 2012
Continued pain after use. NEW
by: Dan

Hi Guys , Great forum, so good to hear others comments makes me feel like im not the only one going through all this.
Im 5 months (sept 10 2011)out from a labral repair with acromian decompression. Well all was great after 3 months had full ROM, was doing 30 push ups a day and swimming with little or no pain.
At 3.5 months it felt about 80- 90% so i starting increasing workload of swimming and extra stuff like mowing the lawn etc.

Big mistake i woke up pretty sore and stiff the following day after 2 days in a row of swimming .
Thought it had just over worked the muscles and l flared the surgery up. Still now(6 weeks later) im in pain and my shoulder aches and muscles are sore and i have lost a lot of strength.And it just doesnt feel right? I still have full ROM which i never lost.
Im so worried i have retorn although all the doctors and PTs say i have just upset the surgery. I am off to the specialist for a MRI in two weeks so will find out then what i have done, The thought of having to go through this all again is pretty devastating.

Has anyone else been through the same thing and has it come good in the long run or is it as bad as i think???

Mar 04, 2012
One day at a Time NEW
by: Big Ro

Hello Everyone,

Great site. I had two massive tears (5 cm each) and tore my bicep on my left arm (dominant arm of course!) in a car accident. I had surgery January 12, 2012. My Ortho said it was the worst he has ever done. First day out was not bad. One nerve block wore off the pain was brutal. I took percocets and that helped. Took weeks to get a good night sleep as any position brought a new kind of pain. I began taking a herbal product called cissus and that help along with ice. About 7 weeks out and the pain is significantly less. My ROM is fabulous according to my P.T. I use the TENS kit and take cissus and now I can sleep in my bed through the night with minimum discomfort. My suggestion is follow the orders of your doctor and P.T. Do the exercises to the point where you touch the pain and immediately back off. Stay strong and motivated as this is a long journey. Try a joint remedy like Cissus as even my wife swears by it for her arthritic knees. If you can get a tens kit I would strongly suggest you use it as it deadens the pain and seems to strengthen the soft tissue healing and rotator muscle.

Other than that just keep positive and you will get there eventually.


Mar 13, 2012
suture strength NEW
by: Dave

I am 1 week post op SLAP Tear and had two labrum tears, one with four anchors and the other just one anchor. I was in the process of sitting in a lounge chair when i lost my balance and my shoulder hit the padded arm of the char. I didn't hit really hard but enough to worry about. How strong are the sutures and can they be easily torn?

Mar 14, 2012
frozen or normal? NEW
by: frustrated

I'm just really worried. My pt said she thought my shoulder was frozen until she moved it manually. Im having a hard time with external rotation. I had a anterior and posterior labrum tear, a rotator cuff repair, socket debridement, and i'm not sure how many sutures I had but they were dissolvable and supposedly my socket was supposed to be "fixed" so it won't come out of socket again (which is how I got this way) I actually suffered a fracture inside the humeral head as well. only seen surgeon day of surgery. Been back plenty of times and seen pa's and nurse. Not getting answers. Been to therapy since Feb 14, no pendulum for me (which seemed to confuse his staff)
I go again in April to see surgeon, but worried my arm could be froze. I have sharp pain that goes from the back of my shoulder (rotator cuff?) And Goes down my arm when I stetch it. Or its in the back of my arm only during other movements trying to get to neutral. I'm wondering what else I can do?

Mar 25, 2012
6 1/2 weeks post op SLAP Fingers Still Numb NEW
by: LA

I am 6 1/2 weeks post op from SLAP LABRUM TEAR 5 anchors...just a disaster...from falling down stairs. The pain has improved but of course roller coasters. Nights are horrible. PT says I'm doing well with most exercises considering the damage. My big concern (besides the constant throbbing pain, especially at night) is that my thumb and first finger are still numb. All were, but the other fingers returned to normal weeks ago. It feels like hundreds of needles in my finger and thumb and the space between. The dr. says it should go away, that it's most likely internal swelling somewhere causing it. Has anyone experienced this? Also, do you think a cortisone shot might help with that internal swelling?
Thanks,
LA

Mar 25, 2012
dear LA NEW
by: Anonymous

Does it help whenu ice it? Are u taking your anti inflammatory meds? Would think if swelling was an issue that those two things combined would lessen it. Have you tried repositioning your shoulder? My therapist told me to Kerri My shoulder back instead of letting it fall forward
I too have numbness issues usually having to do with certain exercises but my hand will swell too now and again.
Are u in therapy yet? I've had 10 visits and my external rotation is nill. I'm so worried, my shoulder is stiff alot. I had slap tear and rotator cuff repair along with debridement and decompression. 1/16. mine was done arthoscopic. Was yours?

Mar 25, 2012
Numbness doesn't go away NEW
by: LA

Icing helps with throbbing but not numbness. I have been in therapy for 6 weeks. It has been numb since surgery. Whole hand was, but other fingers improved at 2 weeks post op. I did have nerve block, and surgery was arthroscopic. PT says I'm doing well but one exercise is tougher than the others for me. I'm just worried ick over the numbness. It drives me insane along with the throbbing. I'm worried the numbness is permanent.

Mar 25, 2012
numbness in la NEW
by: Anonymous

Hmmm. I'm having the hardest time with pinching pain and tingling too. Right now my biscept muscle I'd throbbing and i'm on 800Mg Motrin and one percocet. I also had a nerve block and have noticed especially today that my arm feels like its numb in the muscle but still hurts If that makes any sense especially when I push my elbow behind me. I'm worried too because so many people kept telling me to do ROM exercises in my surgeons office until they read my chart. Its like i'm the only one who didn't. Not even pendulum exercises. Now my ROM is awful! I've only seem surgeon the day of surgery and I was on anti anxiety meds then after surgery he came in but I was so groggy. I literally threw a fit last visit and have an app with him on 4/4.
Sounds like damage to the nerve or somethings squishing it. What exercise are you having problems with? do u have full ROM?

Mar 30, 2012
released from Ortho's care NEW
by: Matt

back in February I had my last follow up with my Ortho and was told that there wasn't required to come back. I asked him about all of the problems I experienced and whether or not they would go away. And he told me to think of my body like an automobile after a collision, you can have it repaired but it is never the same. The biggest battle I had was to remain positive and listen to my doctor. I was/am doing the exercises as directed and I was and sometimes still experience numbness in my hand and pain in my bicep. Which I was told was normal due to the length of time I lived with the tear and the muscles/scar tissue development. Just so you know I am 16months post op. So for the folks just getting into this you should 1) listen to your doctor 2) do the exercises even it is uncomfortable 3)use ice/heat and massage(I use a tennis ball against the wall) to control the stiffness and 4) remain positive this is at a minimum a 18mo process. I expect to have some discomfort for the rest of my life and will have to deal with it as it happens.

To the person asking about the suchers/anchors you should be fine. My doc added some extras and a week after surgery I stumbled going up some stairs and braced myself against the wall, it hurt like all get out but after a followup was told that I'd know it if I tore out the anchors.

To the person asking about numbness, it will gradually lessen just remain patient(trust me that is the hardest part of this whole process).

Matt

Mar 31, 2012
Discouraged and Scared NEW
by: Susan

I am now 9 weeks post surgery (surgery date 1/27/12) for a SLAP repair, tenodesis and bone spur removal on my left shoulder. I lost most move,ent in my left shoulder a month leading up to surgery. I'm left hand dominant.

I started physical therapy one week post surgery. The PT I used for the first 7 weeks had me spending 50% of my time on stregnth exercises. The rest of the time he spent on my thorasic and cervical spine, telling me these were impinging my ROM.

My surgeon was not impressed with my ROM and I've now switched PTs. My new PT has me on an aggressive exercise plan, all focused on ROM. She's using deep tissue massage to help break up the adhesions that have formed. I Just finished my first week with her, going 4 times for in office visits and exercising regularly at home.

I finally feel that I have the right PT, but being that I'm already 9 weeks post surgery ( and 3 weeks out of the sling) and have such poor ROM, I'm scared that I'm not going to regain full use of my shoulder.

I have horrible, constant pain down to my hand. I'm taking pain killers pre-PT per my surgeons suggestion, but otherwise I am just sucking it up. Motrin, Aleve and such offer no relief. The Oxycoden I am taking just barely takes the edge off.

I have had knee, foot and hand surgeries ... And I recovered quickly from all of those. This shoulder surgery has thrown me for a loop.

My new PT considers me " a challenge". I really like her and appreciate her honesty and the time she spends with me (1 - 2 hours per visit). I feel that if I went to her from the start I would be in much better shape than I am now. But as we know, you can't go back ... And just need to look ahead.

She told me that in 4 months if I'm still not improving, the surgeon can put me under general anesthesia and break up the adhesions that way. The thought of that scares the heck out of me. So does the thought of being in this type of pain for another 4 months.

It would be noce to hear about success stories some of you may have had. Particularly those of you who may have gotten off to a slow start.

In either event, typing this has been somewhat therapeutic in and of itself :)

Susan


Mar 31, 2012
Discouraged and Scared NEW
by: Susan

I am now 9 weeks post surgery (surgery date 1/27/12) for a SLAP repair, tenodesis and bone spur removal on my left shoulder. I lost most move,ent in my left shoulder a month leading up to surgery. I'm left hand dominant.

I started physical therapy one week post surgery. The PT I used for the first 7 weeks had me spending 50% of my time on stregnth exercises. The rest of the time he spent on my thorasic and cervical spine, telling me these were impinging my ROM.

My surgeon was not impressed with my ROM and I've now switched PTs. My new PT has me on an aggressive exercise plan, all focused on ROM. She's using deep tissue massage to help break up the adhesions that have formed. I Just finished my first week with her, going 4 times for in office visits and exercising regularly at home.

I finally feel that I have the right PT, but being that I'm already 9 weeks post surgery ( and 3 weeks out of the sling) and have such poor ROM, I'm scared that I'm not going to regain full use of my shoulder.

I have horrible, constant pain down to my hand. I'm taking pain killers pre-PT per my surgeons suggestion, but otherwise I am just sucking it up. Motrin, Aleve and such offer no relief. The Oxycoden I am taking just barely takes the edge off.

I have had knee, foot and hand surgeries ... And I recovered quickly from all of those. This shoulder surgery has thrown me for a loop.

My new PT considers me " a challenge". I really like her and appreciate her honesty and the time she spends with me (1 - 2 hours per visit). I feel that if I went to her from the start I would be in much better shape than I am now. But as we know, you can't go back ... And just need to look ahead.

She told me that in 4 months if I'm still not improving, the surgeon can put me under general anesthesia and break up the adhesions that way. The thought of that scares the heck out of me. So does the thought of being in this type of pain for another 4 months.

It would be noce to hear about success stories some of you may have had. Particularly those of you who may have gotten off to a slow start.

In either event, typing this has been somewhat therapeutic in and of itself :)

Susan


Apr 18, 2012
Slap tear ,cyst and tendinopathy with impingment in the ac joint NEW
by: Lee

I was diagnosed with all of the aboved my left shoulder . I understand what the slap tear is but have no clue about the other. I had a slap repair done on my right shoulder appx. 10 yrs ago that had.to be fixed twice bc pt retore it . I have numbness in my left hand and dont know if its from the left shoulder injury. Im a heart patient , at 41, and don't know if I should get all this fixed or not . With the bad expirence I had with my right shoulder, im kinda leary about doing the left . I've not had any dislocations just pain and weakness . The numbness in my hand and fingers worry me though . Any advice would be welcomed .

Apr 18, 2012
Dave NEW
by: Lee

I had a right slap tear repair done in 2002 that was pretty bad . Completely tore 360°. After the repair my pt retore it @ visit # 8 and had to be repaired . The ortho said he would use stronger sutures ,so I would guess that the wire they use is diffrent gauges . My advice.is go back to your ortho before u go through all your pt if u have to have it redone . Better safe than to do all that pt twice . Believe me . Good luck

Apr 18, 2012
Dave NEW
by: Lee

I had a right slap tear repair done in 2002 that was pretty bad . Completely tore 360°. After the repair my pt retore it @ visit # 8 and had to be repaired . The ortho said he would use stronger sutures ,so I would guess that the wire they use is diffrent gauges . My advice.is go back to your ortho before u go through all your pt if u have to have it redone . Better safe than to do all that pt twice . Believe me . Good luck

May 22, 2012
Re-tear NEW
by: Anonymous

So, just like everyone else here, I'm totally paranoid about a retear during recovery. Even though the physio, surgeon and my (doctor) wife all tell me I'm crazy....so I did some journal research and discovered that, depending on the type of anchor/suture used, force tests on cadavers put failure at between 130 & 220 newtons of force. Now that is an awful lot of force (remember good 'ol f=ma ) and that is a single anchor in a cadaver with no muscle elasticity, no natural post surgery recovery and no sling.

I hope that puts some minds at ease...while it's easy to aggravate the repair (I.e. pain for a few days) and definitely will slow healing if you keep aggravating it, it seems really quite difficult from what I've read to cause sutures or anchors to fail.

I am not a doctor, this is not medical advice...as always, consult your physician

Jun 07, 2012
I had Slap Repair, Bankart Repair, Impingement repair, and the Mumford procedure done 2 months ago NEW
by: Anonymous

I wound up with a posterior dislocation and brachial plexus neuritis(shoulder/arm nerve condition/damage) from a cheap shot in flag football and then in the rehab, I suffered a type 2 slap tear while I was napping, because the nerve wasted all my muscle away in my shoulder. I had a terrible orthopedic and had to get a new one, because this guy didn't know what he was doing. I found a new one and then I was having a ton of pain reaching up...he did my surgery and even told me afterwards that it was a lot worse than the mris showed. Bottom line is surgery on your shoulder is bad no matter what. I was in an immobilizer for a month. I started PT a week after surgery 3 times a week and have been 3 times a week since, plus home exercises. It is a day or two over the 2 month mark and I have all my range back, but I still can't reach behind my back. My therapist said it is normal and usually that takes the longest. In my case it is different, because I suffered what my surgeon deemed "the worst nerve damage in 25 years" he's seen. The end of the day, you will recover as long as you have a good therapy plan and are motivated. It is hard at first, because of the pain, but a little bit of pain in the beginning means no pain when it heals. I hope you healed properly.

Jun 07, 2012
Rotary cuff 80percent tear NEW
by: Bob 69

I had an automobile accidene in on july 7th a day after signing a rental lease, lost my car , my apt , mt job with the union pacific railroad which i just started, was a great job, now ive been ouof work for just short of of a tear, no,insurance i have ssdi and medicare which is running out. this has been a nightmare,lost it all like i said my woman thats the hardest part of this whole thing and on top of everything else i lost the use of my right hand, its paralised after the surgery, and they dont know why, plus i have whats called RSD. Reflix Sympathetic dystrophy. cronic pain that ive had for 20 years, its bad enought but now i wish i knew what to do hope you all fair better then me. has anyone else out there had this problem? with being paralised after surgery.





Jun 27, 2012
driving NEW
by: pete

Hi folks , 80% cuff tear ac joint arthritus and labrumbtear. 1 week post op. Drove today for a few miles and was very sore. how soon were you able to drive for a long trip?
I also coughed hard and was intense pain. Can a repair be damaged by coughing?

47 yr old male

Jun 27, 2012
driving NEW
by: pete

Hi folks , 80% cuff tear ac joint arthritus and labrumbtear. 1 week post op. Drove today for a few miles and was very sore. how soon were you able to drive for a long trip?
I also coughed hard and was intense pain. Can a repair be damaged by coughing?

47 yr old male

Jun 27, 2012
driving NEW
by: pete

Hi folks , 80% cuff tear ac joint arthritus and labrumbtear. 1 week post op. Drove today for a few miles and was very sore. how soon were you able to drive for a long trip?
I also coughed hard and was intense pain. Can a repair be damaged by coughing?

47 yr old male

Jun 27, 2012
my labrum repair experience NEW
by: Tammy

No u can't damage the repair coughing. Labrum repair is a very long recovery. I'm just a few weeks past a year on my repair and still have days when it aches a little. Took about 2 weeks before I could drive without crying after the surgery. Lol. Then I couldn't wear a seat belt when I drove for a long time because it was my left shoulder.My surgeon told me to move it as much as possible one week after. Told me he had confidence in his repair and the only restriction I had was not to lift or throw with that arm until he said I was good for that. Told me to get rid of sling 2 weeks after too. Movement is best as frozen shoulder is a risk.I see so many people whose surgeon told them not to move it at all for like 6 weeks. I asked my surgeon about that when he told me to do so much and he said that not using arm for 6 weeks is the old way they did things and often cause more problems. My surgeon was no hack either as he is on the orthopedic team of dr's for our local Pro baseball team, the Cincinnati Reds.

Jun 28, 2012
Update from LA NEW
by: LA

I knew something was wrong....first surgery Feb. Just wasn't healing correctly....too much trama and everything attached to the labrum repair. Second sugery May...now I'm improving. PT is a success....numbness is minimal. Started improving immediately after second surgery....arthroscopic capsular release & manipulation. The PT figured out something wasn't right. Thank goodness. I will be fine.

Jul 02, 2012
My Experience NEW
by: Anonymous

Had issues with a weak stiff right shoulder that popped and cracked for over 3 years due to either sitting at a desk, working out, or playing sports. Not sure how the symptoms started. Spent ton of money on PT and Chiro with some improvement in mobility but the popping/cracking did not go away. Went to a couple of orthopedics with no luck. Was about to make another appt with a different ortho to discuss more treatment options and came across the trigger point manual. I spent a few nights reading the book to learn the self help methods and applied the methods to locate trigger points in neck/shoulder/traps and started to massage them out. After 2 nights of doing this the popping/cracking went away and my stiff neck/shoulder was almost completely gone. The constant pressure over my right eye that I thought was due to another issue is gone also. The main trigger points causing my issues were in the neck. It was some of the worst pain I have experienced when I was working them out. I thought I was doomed to a weak stiff popping shoulder for the rest of my life. The guide also talked about how a lot of treatments/surgeries are incorrectly prescribed due to not understanding trigger points and referred pain. Trigger point therapy after surgery can be beneficial also due to the trauma of the surgery.

Jul 04, 2012
slap tear NEW
by: Donna

Hi,,,, what a great site,,,,,,just had mri,,,,looks like a slap tear,,,,,,visit dr next week,,,,,,nervous,,,,,after reading these,,lol,,,but so helpful,,,thanx,,,,,,i dont know if i can stand being out of work that long,,,,im use to moving,,,i clean a college dorm for the state of ny,,,,,,,lifting alot of garbage and furniture,and mopping,,,,,,6 months out of work,,i may go crazy,,,lol,,,,,and only have standard wrangler jeep,,utoh,,but thanx again for being helpful everyone !

Jul 04, 2012
slap tear NEW
by: Donna

Hi,,,, what a great site,,,,,,just had mri,,,,looks like a slap tear,,,,,,visit dr next week,,,,,,nervous,,,,,after reading these,,lol,,,but so helpful,,,thanx,,,,,,i dont know if i can stand being out of work that long,,,,im use to moving,,,i clean a college dorm for the state of ny,,,,,,,lifting alot of garbage and furniture,and mopping,,,,,,6 months out of work,,i may go crazy,,,lol,,,,,and only have standard wrangler jeep,,utoh,,but thanx again for being helpful everyone !

Jul 04, 2012
slap tear NEW
by: Donna

Hi,,,, what a great site,,,,,,just had mri,,,,looks like a slap tear,,,,,,visit dr next week,,,,,,nervous,,,,,after reading these,,lol,,,but so helpful,,,thanx,,,,,,i dont know if i can stand being out of work that long,,,,im use to moving,,,i clean a college dorm for the state of ny,,,,,,,lifting alot of garbage and furniture,and mopping,,,,,,6 months out of work,,i may go crazy,,,lol,,,,,and only have standard wrangler jeep,,utoh,,but thanx again for being helpful everyone !

Jul 13, 2012
Slap tear June 2012 NEW
by: Danielle

Got a question I'm getting no answers from doctor found this site and it seems I can get answers here. I had surgery in June for a slap repair on left shoulder now I'm in 6 weeks of pt and was doing great but recently my shoulder started to grind and pop all over again and hurts the same if not worse then before the surgery and kinda worried it may have torn again. Could this be normal and a slow process or something to be worried about? The pain is going up my neck, back and right where my shoulder surgery was. Thanks

Jul 13, 2012
poping NEW
by: flip

My right shoulder was done a year and a half ago and my left has been done for 8 months. I always had weird pains and pops. The shoulders never felt right till about the 7th month . They both still pop but I got my strenth back. I thought I tore mine a couple of times but I was told pain is normal. I can still make them both hurt but I do concrete work so I guess you get what you get. Good luck.

Jul 14, 2012
slap tear NEW
by: Anonymous

hi,,,,great site,,,,i just found out i have a slap tear ,,,but the dr that read my mri doesnt want to do anything about it,,,so i have to see a diff dr,,,,,hopefully this dr will,,,in pain with it,,,but still working

Jul 14, 2012
slap tear NEW
by: Anonymous

hi,,,,great site,,,,i just found out i have a slap tear ,,,but the dr that read my mri doesnt want to do anything about it,,,so i have to see a diff dr,,,,,hopefully this dr will,,,in pain with it,,,but still working

Jul 14, 2012
slap tear NEW
by: Anonymous

hi,,,,great site,,,,i just found out i have a slap tear ,,,but the dr that read my mri doesnt want to do anything about it,,,so i have to see a diff dr,,,,,hopefully this dr will,,,in pain with it,,,but still working

Jul 14, 2012
slap tear NEW
by: Anonymous

hi,,,,great site,,,,i just found out i have a slap tear ,,,but the dr that read my mri doesnt want to do anything about it,,,so i have to see a diff dr,,,,,hopefully this dr will,,,in pain with it,,,but still working

Jul 14, 2012
To Danielle NEW
by: Brett

To Danielle - I'd recommend talking with your PT. I am going on 12 months post-surgery. At 6 weeks, I wasn't even close to moving my arm, except during PT sessions. I'd make sure you have a good PT that understands the script that you doctor gave you for the PT, and talk through your symptoms with the PT. To the point - you shouldn't have grinding (much) but more to my experience, I really wasn't doing much - my own log says that at 6 weeks I could just barely raise my arm parallel to the ground, I was wearing my sling at night, and could, with considerable effort, lift a beer to my lips.

As I said - I am 12 months out from a 4 or 6 anchor SLAP repair, with some scar tissue removed from the rotary cuff. I play racquetball hard - low open player - and it's only the past month that I've been able to play 2-3 games at relative full strength (or without holding back - I'm still not at full strength). The issue is that I still have rather severe pain after playing that lasts for a couple of days. The majority of my strength is back, but still fear letting a football go all out.

Jul 15, 2012
still in pain 4 1/2 weeks post op NEW
by: AnonymousMartha

I had a capsular shift for a chronic dislocation, labral tear (2) repair and rotator cuff repair. I've been going to PT religiously and while I am improving a ton in ROM. I feel like every time I take a big stride forward, I end up being in excruciating pain for days after. It feels achy and throbbing in the joint and my rotator cuff, biceps and tricep are painfully also. it was so bad this weekend I was dry heaving and couldn't sleep. Is this normal? Has anyone else had bad pain this far out from surgery? I'm considering calling the doc in the morning to makesure this is normal and I didn't further damage anything. This site is great! Any feedback would really be appreciated because I am at my wits end!

Jul 25, 2012
ROM NEW
by: Angie

Hi all. I am 6 weeks post op from RC repair surgery of my infraspinatus tendon. I just had my PT re-evaluation at I was 150 for flexion, 120 for external rotation, but my internal rotation was horrible...about 30 degrees.
Anyone else have this problem? How did they help you improve your ROM for internal rotation?

Jul 25, 2012
Internal Rotation NEW
by: Julio

Angie,

IR is the hardest one to come back. I am 5 months post Bicep Tenodesis/ SLAP repair. I have full range of motion on all planes but IR (although I am almost there!). My OS recommended sleeper, towel, and behind the neck wand stretches. Your IR ROM will come back with time. Just ensure you are diligently performing your prescribed exercises. Good Luck!

Jul 25, 2012
labral tear NEW
by: Tammy

I am a little over a year since my repair. I just want the recent posters to know that it takes a good year to recover from this surgery. I would still get throbbing aches in the joint and bicep for months after. I no longer get the severe aching but anytime I use that arm heavily I will get some aching. Due to the nature of this injury and repair that may always happen to some degree due to scar tissue. Massaging the scar areas will prevent scar tissue adhesion and prevent a lot of pain issues later down the road. This is a brutal surgery that takes a very long time to heal because of the lack of direct blood flow to the area we had repaired. Be patient, do your PT,and there will be relief down the road. If you try to do too much too soon you will be in severe pain as a result. All those tendons are very tight afterward and takes a long time to loosen. Overuse too soon is a bad idea. I wouldn't be trying to do anything other than PT that is stenouous to the area until like 6 months after surgery. I hope my experience is helpful to you.

Jul 25, 2012
could be going in a 3rd time NEW
by: not much fun

These comments sound very familiar, i had 2 slap tears and torn bi-sep repair in Oct 2011 i had recovered enough after 12 weeks to start my gym training after 5mins with my pt present, i felt a sharp pain right in the spot of the slap tear,an MRI showed the anchor had pulled out. So I had that repaired in Feb 2012, I then got to the point i was in the gym again had a couple games of golf with no pain what so ever, THEN on Sunday last week I was getting up off the lounge and the old familiar shooting pain went through my shoulder..11 days later it is still very painful I have another MRI booked next week. My surgon thinks it is a piece of loose cartalige floating around or the anchor has come out again. I hope its just the loose cartilge. BTW its been 14 months since the original injury. Im over it!

Aug 02, 2012
Thanks Julio! NEW
by: Angie

Yeah I'm just gonna NOT worry about it anymore. I was beginning to believe I was behind the mark after my PT and OS made me feel like I should have been able to put my hand behind my back at 6 wks post op. I'm gonna continue to do the exercises, listen to my body, and not stress about it. :)
I've made lots of progress otherwise so, why should this be any different? ;)
Thanks for ur help!

Aug 14, 2012
18months post Op NEW
by: Matt

Still have good days and bad days. For the most part my ROM is good, I can reach behind my back and I can lift weights(mind you not as much as I used to). It is hard to say that I am pleased with the outcome considering I still have some numbness in my hands from time to time. But my Ortho said that I need to think of myself like a car after an accident. Sure you can make repairs but it will never be the same. Doesn't exactly give me a warm and fuzzy feeling about having the surgery. Now my left shoulder is having problems as well, but will probably forgo having the surgery. Why if I'm still going to have difficulty do simple things from time to time(like lifting a bottle of orange juice from the refrigerator).

Good luck to everyone.

Aug 25, 2012
stiffness NEW
by: Kes

I have extreme stiffness in my bicep I had a SLAP repair 8/21/12 should my bicep be so freaking stiff like it hurts to move at all. It feels like I have a permanent Charlie horse did anyone else have problems with that right after either?

Sep 03, 2012
Elbow fracture plus torn rotator NEW
by: FL Klutz

I am finding good info on what to expect from having a rotator cuff tendon repair.
Mine is complicated by being 6 weeks post op for a proximal ulna/olecranon repair with plate and 7 screws. Elbow ROM is pretty good for time post op but shoulder pain is making elbow pain worse. Ortho doc thought just a strain until MRI showed 95% supra spinous tear.
I opted for surgery as very active and he told me rest of musculature looked excellent. Hope I am making correct decision. It is right side which is what I use for writing but eat a lot with my left normally.
This all started with a Fri. July 13 fall at work so is all worker's comp.
6 weeks in sling will be long 6 weeks as 4 weeks was a lot.

Again, thanks to all for good info.

Sep 03, 2012
to KES NEW
by: Tammy

KES your bicep is going to hurt for a long time. The cartlidge they repaired is attached to your bicep. I sill get an ache in mine from time to time 15 months later. You have a long road ahead if surgery was only 8/21. Takes a long time.

Sep 18, 2012
Ver uConcerned NEW
by: Anonymous

I had arthroscopic rotator cuff, bone spur and arthritis surgery in June 2012. I go to PT twice a week and have since 6 days after surgery. I have watched people come and go and I can only lift my arm shoulder length, not any higher. My doctor told me a week ago he was concerned with several of my range motions. He said they used 5 anchors and everything went well. They did tell my family at the beginning of the surgery the tear was too bad and could not repair, they later returned and said it was successful. The first of October I go back to the doctor and if I am not better he will go in and take a look. I did have an incident where I lifted a case of water and I had a lot of flexibility use in my shoulder and was concerned. I was told it could have been scar tissue or possibly a retear but it was too soon to determine. I would need to continue therapy. I perform the therapy excercises at home twice a day which takes about an hour. I am very committed and aggressive with what I am told to do. I do not understand and I am very concerned. I would just like some feedback. Please!!!

Sep 26, 2012
4 months after slap surgery NEW
by: Anonymous

I am 4 months post up and I just like to say that you can't compare how each person recovery should be. Its a tough surgery and I am still in discomfort at this time. I believe that strengthening of the muscles is the key to success. I mean normal strengthening and PT. Sometimes strengthening feels like it puts you back a couple weeks, but after a couple days of recovering you feel better and stronger again, and this will keep happening until your shoulder muscles get strong enough. Not all muscles around the shoulder get stronger evenly. I am pretty strong again in some movements, but some others are still weak and cause pain while strengthening. It all will get progressively better. Some people feel strong in 6 months and other in two years. Hang in there and stay positive and keep stretching the shoulder. Putting my arm behind my back is still painful, but I keep stretching it and I know it will get better every month. Just don't expect to have a similar recovery as anyone on this forum. It will only create frustration and can have a negative impact on your recovery. Have a positive recovery.

Dec 09, 2012
slap lesion 2 w/bicept tear NEW
by: totally bummed hard working gal

Hi I'm going to have my slap lesion 2/bicept repair in a few weeks. My 1st Dr. said I had a pulled muscle! After 6 weeks of Alieve and getting worse I found a new DR.. He almost said the same thing but just before he walked out the door turned back and moved my arm across my chest and behind my back. Yikes pain!. He ordered an MRI w/contrast. Binggo they found the damage. When I saw the surgeon he put me though test, this time tears, none of the other DR. even came close to the test he put me though. He also thinks I might have some nerve damage. They were treating me as if I was lying about the pain. Come to find out it's a large labrum/bicept tear with cyst. So I'm a CNA/tech who works on a MED/SURG and ICU floor. My injury happened at work pulling up very lrg PT all night long. Both the RN and I were hurt before they moved PT to room with overhead Hoyer lift.
My concern now is WHEN will I be able to go back to work with no limits? From what I have been reading maybe not for a year!? You can't perform CPR one armed nor catch someone if they start to fall so I'm off work till it's healed. Anyone out there who has a very strenous job like mine who has had a slap tear2/bicept repair done? How long did it take you to get back to work?

Dec 09, 2012
re:totally bummed hardworking gal NEW
by: Tammy

Hey there totally bummed. So sorry to hear you have joined the club of those who are unfortunately have a torn labrum. I too work at a hospital. Luckily I'm a lab technologist that the heaviest thing I have to lift is a unit of blood. I was off work for 10 weeks. It did take a full year before my arm was back to 100%. However, I wasn't as agressive with my PT as I could have been. If you are committed to your PT and work it at home also you could return to work in 6 months or less depending on that and your bodies healing ability. This injury is a horrible one and my surgeon warned me prior. I very highly recommend getting yourself a cryo cuff with the automatic fill pump for your shoulder to use after the surgery. If insurance won't pay for it then you can get a used one for around $100 on ebay which is what I did. It was the best investment I ever made. It did wonders for me. It allows you to keep ice on the area 24 hours a day without the risk of skin damage and it feels incredible. Can't imagine going thru my surgery without it and trying to use ice packs. They are useless. It kept my swelling very minimal and therefore speeds the healing process. If u have any more questions I can help u with u can email me TammySchmid@Roadrunner.com. Good luck hun and try to be patient with the long road ahead you face.
Tammy Schmid

Dec 23, 2012
Help...the pain is constant. NEW
by: Peter

I had a full labramtear split down middle, a rotator cuff tear, and a rare subscapularis tear, as well as ac joint repair.
I have had severe pain anda LUMP in my bicep. This lump is warm and very painful, dad said is was nothing two weeks after surgery. No pain meds relieve this pain. What could it be, my PT said to get ahead of dr. Because pain in bicep/deltoid area is worse....any have ny ideas what lump is?

Jan 18, 2013
Knot on collarbone from torn rotator cuff. NEW
by: Anonymous

I'am in my 7 th week of having rotator cuff & tendons repaired and second week of PT. I also had to have spurs removed. Back sometime when I tore my rotator cuff I had a knot to come upon my collarbone in the front of my neck. It is my right shoulder that I had the surgery on. When I use my shoulder sometimes there's a tighting in this knot. If someone has had this same problem then I would like to know. Thank you for reading this and I will be waiting on your answers.

Jan 18, 2013
Knot on collarbone from torn rotator cuff. NEW
by: Anonymous

I'am in my 7 th week of having rotator cuff & tendons repaired and second week of PT. I also had to have spurs removed. Back sometime when I tore my rotator cuff I had a knot to come upon my collarbone in the front of my neck. It is my right shoulder that I had the surgery on. When I use my shoulder sometimes there's a tighting in this knot. If someone has had this same problem then I would like to know. Thank you for reading this and I will be waiting on your answers.

Jan 21, 2013
post-op NEW
by: Anonymous

The comments have been very helpful! I am 3 1/2 months post-op from having my rotator cuff & a SLAP tear repaired on my dominant arm. It's been a frustrating & painfully slow process. About 2 weeks ago I started to experience increased and constant pain. At one point I had elbow pain that wouldn't stop. I chose to ease off a bit from my PT. Currently I'm doing well and as of today my ROM numbers were the best so far. Reaching behind my back is still the most painful & not very good. I continue to experience many sleepless nights from arm pain. Additionally, I think the sling caused some neck issues. Patience & consistency. Good luck to everyone.

Jan 21, 2013
post-op NEW
by: Anonymous

The comments have been very helpful! I am 3 1/2 months post-op from having my rotator cuff & a SLAP tear repaired on my dominant arm. It's been a frustrating & painfully slow process. About 2 weeks ago I started to experience increased and constant pain. At one point I had elbow pain that wouldn't stop. I chose to ease off a bit from my PT. Currently I'm doing well and as of today my ROM numbers were the best so far. Reaching behind my back is still the most painful & not very good. Occasionally I experience pain in my bicep too. I still have many sleepless nights from arm pain. Additionally, I think the sling caused some neck issues. Patience & consistency. Good luck to everyone.

Jan 22, 2013
to Post op person above NEW
by: Tammy

It was almost a year before I could reach behind my back without pain. My doctor told me not to wear the sling after 2 weeks so if you are still using it, that is what's making your elbow hurt.

Jan 25, 2013
Thanks for all comments NEW
by: Bertie

Just found this sight and really appreciate it.
I fell and had to have rotator cuff surgery in april 2012. Retore it and had to have second surgery last august. (approx. 6 months ago) Going to physical therapy and still in a lot of pain. I hate to say it, but I think it's torn again! Ugh! Has any one had 3 surgeries before? Also, my swelling has never gone down. Appreciate any feedback. So sick of the pain.....

Jan 25, 2013
to Bertie NEW
by: Tammy

If you don't have one yet you need to get a cryo cuff for the shoulder. It did amazing things for me when I had my surgery. I would gyess that you probably have a lot of scar tissue in your shoulder now at this point. It may be the reaon for your increased pain. Unfortunately they may have to clean that out to give u relief.

Jan 27, 2013
Op in next few days!!! NEW
by: Anonymous

Hi just found this site. I am having my arthroscopy on Thursday as have suffered with a sore shoulder for 18 months after a swimming sports injury. Looks like a have a tear in my labum and hopefully no damage to bicep. I also have to have a nerve blocker injection in my spine so expect to be sore for a few days. My question is when can I expect to return to work. My job is at a desk on a computer using a mouse which is painful to use now so fully expect some short term pain after the op too. Any suggestions?

Feb 04, 2013
Surgery again, same shoulder NEW
by: Anonymous

Four years ago I had an open repair of a full thickness tear. I have never experienced such pain. Six weeks out on a trip to the a store, I saw a person in the pharmacy who had the surgery a couple of years prior. I asked how long it will hurt (thinking a few more weeks would be the answer). She said her's hurt for a year. I thought maybe she was exagerating, but mine hurt for 11 months.

Another tear in November, 2012 prompted surgery in January, 2013. The surgery was arthroscopic this time. The pain would not have been as bad I don't think, but I had developed an allergy to all types of pain medication, so it was pretty bad until I started to depend heavily on icing. I am hoping that it will not take 11 months this time until I am pain free but I am not holding my breath. I don't know if the pain is not as bad or if I was more prepared this time. I knew what type of clothes I can wear and all the tricks to showering and washing and drying my hair after I felt so handicapped last time. I went back to work in a week, but i have a desk job. I have a ride to and from work and to therapy everyday. Good luck to everyone with your recovery.

Apr 20, 2013
Fear retorn labrum! NEW
by: TShoulder

Like many here, I am also fearful of retearing my new fixed shoulder. Anyone have any advice on the feeling associated with retearing? Last week I was 6 weeks post-op from labrum repair and I went running. I ran for about 30 minutes on the road, and I actually wore my sling for the run (I had already been out of the sling for one week). My shoulder felt ok during the run and for the rest of the day, but the next day my arm and shoulder really ached. The achiness has been present for the past 4 days since my run and I am worried I retore the cartilage. It also hurts more to do shoulder rolls, which didn't really hurt before. MRI would show if anything happened, but it is too soon for another MRI (too much scar tissue in the way). Anyone else experienced such prolonged achiness if and when they retore their labrum? My arm also feels weaker in the shoulder. Looking forward to comments and advice, thanks!

Apr 21, 2013
3 Tears repaired NEW
by: Anonymous 2

I had my rt cuff repair on dec 27 12. 3hr on the table.
I did not recieve the nerve block, When they woke me I asked if anyone got the number of that truck, I have never had that much pain Thank god.
The largest tear was about the size of a golf ball. Wore the sling day and night for the first 2 weeks then only when I left the house.Slept in the easy chair for 3 weeks.
Went back to work at 6 weeks on light duty,no lifting.
Was doing PT at week 4, did that for 3 weeks x 3.
I now have 80 to 90% ROM.
Still have lots of poping and grinding in the joint.
I think that the PT guy broke loose all of the adhesions related to the healing and repair.
The Doc said that the poping is most likly the sutures where they are tied off.
I also sill have pain in the shoulder, but I believe most of that is from using it more after 4mo. of non-use.
I see the Doc in mid May. We will see what he says then. As my rt heals I feel more pain in my Left OHNO.

Apr 21, 2013
Tshoulder NEW
by: Anonymous2

I would guess that your shoulder is now very sore, even though you wore your sling there is a lot of movement of your shoulder while running. Movement that it has not seen since before your surgery. Take your pain pills as needed. Just work on it slowly little by little. My Doc said 6 mo. recovery time. I am thinking 12 mo.

Apr 27, 2013
TShoulder NEW
by: Anonymous

Thanks. Yeah I have been hoping that is just the achy feeling of using muscles that have not been used in a long time, but I can't help fear that I pushed it too quickly and re-tore the cartilage. I am almost 2 months post op slap tear surgery. Did you guys still feel sharp pain in the joint if you moved it in the wrong way at the 2 month mark? Also, anyone know how long you have to wait after surgery to have a check-up MRI (just so that the MRI doesn't just show scar tissue but will actually show clear imaging of whether the operated area is still intact)?

Jun 08, 2013
questions NEW
by: dogsdo2

I'm scheduled for surgery on 7/3/13. I live alone. I need to know what to expect for the first few days. Do I need to have someone with me 24 hours a day? I will have someone coming over at least twice a day. I'm hoping that will be enough. Can someone explain to me how the first few post-op days were? Thanks.

Oct 25, 2013
Second time around NEW
by: Kathleen

Hi everyone! I had a rotator cuff repair done 13 years ago after a fall down a long staircase on a ship. The damage was massive but I had a good surgeon who managed to achieve 100% use and mobility for me. It was still improving after 12 months so it is a very slow process.
I now need the right shoulder done because of one full tear with retraction and a partial tear and some other bits and pieces.
I like the sound of the cyro cuff with ice which I intend to use this time.
What else is different this time is that it is my right shoulder and I am pretty much used to using that arm and hand for everything and the left one being the helping one.
I am also much older turning 69 at Xmas so hope that this one is as successful as the first one.
I have enjoyed reading everyone's comments and would like to reassure you all that there is light at the end of the tunnel and to hang in there and follow instructions perfectly and you should be fine as well!
I see my surgeon this Tuesday so will post again with updates and then again after the surgery to let you know how it went and any other information I can offer.
Cheers to all!

Nov 17, 2013
Acromioplasty on 14 year old NEW
by: Worried mom

My 14 year old daughter, a competitive swimmer, has acromioplasty scheduled for next month. She has a very minute anterior inferior labral tear that the orthopod doesn't think will need to be sutured at all. Anyone have any experience with this kind of thing in someone so young!?!?? Wondering about recovery time, what to expect, and how to best help her post-op...anyone??

Nov 17, 2013
Acromioplasty on 14 year old NEW
by: Worried mom

My 14 year old daughter, a competitive swimmer, has acromioplasty scheduled for next month. She has a very minute anterior inferior labral tear that the orthopod doesn't think will need to be sutured at all. Anyone have any experience with this kind of thing in someone so young!?!?? Wondering about recovery time, what to expect, and how to best help her post-op...anyone??

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