Shoulder surgery removed bone spur

by Suzanne
(Lake George, NY USA)

I had arthroscopic surgery on my right shoulder in June 2008. Prior to surgery I had alot of pain and was on pain meds for a long time. I had pain through the bicep and back into my shoulder blade. The MRI only showed tendonitis. The surgeon removed a bone spur and after surgery I did pretty good for a while. Then things started going downhill and I have alot of the same pain back.

I had an MRI last week and it is worse than the first one. It shows tendonitis and fluid in the subacromial/subdeltoid bursa which was not seen before. I have very limited shoulder movement and pain all the time. Particular movements cause severe pain.

I am going to a shoulder surgeon for a second opinion. He suggested a cortisone shot before he saw the MRI. I am not sure what he will recommend in January but I don't want any more cortisone. I have already had two shots in that shoulder and they did nothing for me. Plus I know that cortisone can be helpful over the short term but can be destructive over the long term.

I would like to know what your opinion is about what I should do. I am thinking that I need a second surgery so he can go in a see what is going on with the bursa and remove it if necessary. I am not sure why the first surgeon did not remove it. Is the bursa needed for functionality.?

I have read mixed reviews about this. Any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated ! Also, I am a 53 year old woman and had this injury in both shoulders due to repetitive motion.

Thank you !
Suzanne

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Apr 15, 2009
had the sugery great success
by: Anonymous

im 35 years of age just had the surgery for bursitis and shoulder spurs i tell u it's been the best thing.I'm a hair dresser and my shoulder was to the point i couldn't even hold the blow dryer, but thanks to my wonderful dr. 5 days later i feel great no pain just tenderness i feel i made the right decision to have the sugery done.you have to have an elaborate speaking professional that understands your pain my dr. shore did.I also tried therapy for 4 months no success.I can honestly say i'm happy with my results.

Apr 26, 2009
My (brief) story
by: Paul

I had surgery on my left shoulder approx 8 years ago and my experience was very positive. Without knowing everything, I can only assume your first surgeon may not have removed everything. I had impingement and severe pain from joint compression and bone spurs. My doc did what is known as a subacromial decompression with a distal clavical excision. While in there he also cleaned out the joint and turned it from what initially looked like some remote planetary surface into a smooth pearly white. Now I am preparing to have my right shoulder done and of course the same surgeon. This one is worse than the other was but I caught it before it tore into my rotator cuff so the prognosis post surgery is good. The decision for the first surgery was a tough one. I am a health care professional and will try anything before going under the knife. My results were so good from the last surgery that, if I can make it through triathlon season, I will be going straight to the OR in November. Good luck!

Oct 24, 2009
shoulder surgery
by: Lucy

I have just seen my surgeon and he advises the surgery. He showed us the X-ray and the spur and the tear. He said he would pull the tendon up and secure with a screw? What is all that about. I really need some pertenent information to talk about with him. He seemed to feel it would be easy to fix.

There is a lot of information here and some of it gets confusing, should I maybe not, however the pain is getting worse. Yikes

Nov 01, 2009
Re: Lucy
by: Bart - SII

Lucy, it sounds like you are talking about a rotator cuff repair, where they reattach the tendon? Is this what you are asking about? You can read a little about it here.

Rotator Cuff Tear

Bart

Nov 08, 2009
surgery
by: jamie

I would avoid surgery and ask about rehab options. These types of shoulder problems can be treated with muscle strenthening and PT...surgery introduces a whole world of complications, esp w/the shoulder. I would AVOID surgery and opt for rehab...but rehab is not an easy option--requiring a dedication to actually DO the exercises...for perhaps 6 months. It works but it is amazing how few are willing to devote themselves to this.

Apr 17, 2010
Surgery for bursitis
by: Anonymous

I was just diagnosed with the same problem. I have spoken to my doctor as well as two friends who had the same problem. Both of my friends had the surgery to remove the issue with the bursa and have not had any problems since. One is going on 6 yrs. post surgery and the other a year. I had the corisone as well which has not helped. My doctor is already talking about the surgery as I have a bone spur as well. Hope this helps!!!

Aug 17, 2010
Shoulder Surgery
by: Anonymous

I am going in to have my shoulders repaired for the same reason, Bone Spurs. They have cut 3 tendons and messed up cartilage. I asked about rehab on my shoulder even though I'm in a lot of pain all the time. He said rehab to a should with bone spurs is a waste of time. Its like having a steak knife in your joint that cuts away at everything. Increase blood flow to the damaged areas through rehab to promote healing is no good if you still have a sharp slicing thing in there.

Sep 20, 2010
Now it's my turn
by: Nancy

I've just come home from the shoulder surgeon and my arthroscopic subacromial decompression is scheduled for next Tuesday. I have had pain and limited mobility in my left arm for about six months. The pain is not disabling, but very annoying. I am just afraid the bone spur will eventually tear the rotator cuff and then the BIG surgery! Hopefully this will work.

Oct 14, 2010
Just had the surgery a week ago
by: Sue

Had shoulder surgery last week and so far so good. Bandage removed today. Surgeon said it was bone spur that had cut one of the tendons but the rotator cuff was fine. I start therapy next week. I already have so much more motion than before. The pain gets better each day. I'm real pleased with the results. My right shoulder had basically the same thing with surgery 4 years ago. Rehab took almost a year before I was back to normal. I think the left one will be easier.

Oct 20, 2010
shoulder surgery
by: Kathy

I have been having shoulder pain for some time now. I had 3 injections in it with some relief until the last one, which I had no relief. My Doctor ordered an MRI which showed a tear and a bone spur. I also had bursitus.
I am scheduled for surgery in Dec. as that was his first opening. Sometimes the pain is unbearable but I cope with it.
Have already had therapy on both shoulders about 2 years ago. It did help at the time but now the pain runs down my arm. Anyone else have this with the arm pain? Nervous about the surgery. Have already had 2 back surgeries that didn't go to well. Thanks for listening!

Nov 27, 2010
Avoid sirgery
by: Jay P

had this surgery 4 months ago and pain is worse than ever. surgery made it worse and i am so depressed now

Dec 13, 2010
after surgery
by: Kathy

Had surgery on my rotator cuff last thursday, Dec.9th. It is not as bad as i thought it would be right away. I know I have a lot of healing to do but just have a feeling it will be ok. The Doc gave me a nerve block in my arm so when I came out of surgery I didn't have shoulder pain. That was nice and I would recemmend it. Good luck to all that are decieding what to do!!!

Dec 14, 2010
Hurts at night, sleeping
by: Jimmy

I went in for Cortisone/Lidocaine shots twice for right shoulder pain in 2010 with limited relief. Got an Xray, the Orthopedic Spec thinks it's a spur.

During the day, the pain is bearable, but it wakes me up several times during sleep at night. This has been going one for over two years now and I cannot continue to believe this will heal on its own. I tried rehab, just like my GP suggested, no help. I'm going back to the Orthopedic Specialist this coming Monday for an MRI. As much as I hate to, I'm going to lean towards surgery.

Dec 18, 2010
2nd round left shoulder
by: Ingy

Back in 1995 I had a frozen shoulder brought on by playing basketball with my kids and had a closed surgical procedure. But prior to that I suffered greatly for around 9 months with the pain. The last 6 months I have been having pain again but more down my arm along the bicep area. I saw a doctor back in August about it an he just checked range of motion an didn't take any x-rays sent me home an told me to do exercises. Went back today an saw a different doc an he did some different manipulations of my shoulder an did an x-ray an sure enough I have bone spurs. He ordered an MRI an I got that done today I won't know the results till Monday. I'll be back next with the final results. Thank you to all for sharing your experiences.

Dec 18, 2010
2nd round left shoulder
by: Ingy

Back in 1995 I had a frozen shoulder brought on by playing basketball with my kids and had a closed surgical procedure. But prior to that I suffered greatly for around 9 months with the pain. The last 6 months I have been having pain again but more down my arm along the bicep area. I saw a doctor back in August about it an he just checked range of motion an didn't take any x-rays sent me home an told me to do exercises. Went back today an saw a different doc an he did some different manipulations of my shoulder an did an x-ray an sure enough I have bone spurs. He ordered an MRI an I got that done today I won't know the results till Monday. I'll be back next with the final results. Thank you to all for sharing your experiences.

Dec 20, 2010
Physical Therapy made things worse
by: Blake

I had a partial thickness tear in June which showed up on an MRI. I went through steroid treatment and PT, followed by cortisone and more PT. The problem was that things seemed to be getting worse. I had surgery on 12/15/10 and my doc found a bone spur that was shredding things up, and the more PT I did, the worse it was making my shoulder. I am 5 days post-op and while I am sore, I can already feel a significant difference.

I am so glad that I didn't listen to my first doc, and instead went with surgery as recommended by my current doc. Had I stuck with PT longer it would have gotten much worse.

BTW, dealing with a bone spur & partial tear is MUCH easier than a serious rotator cuff tear. I did that 4 years ago and he level of pain and range of motion at 5 days post-op makes a huge difference.

Dec 27, 2010
BACK Docs treatment plan: 2nd time around left shoulder
by: Ingy

I saw the surgeon last Thursday an he recommended cortisone an physical therapy an he said the Rotator cuff is involved. I got the shot. He said if in 2 to 3 weeks it is still having problems he would do a 2nd shot of cortisone going along with more physical therapy. If after this I'm still having pain then will talk surgery. The shot helped with the tendonitis and I'm doing the exercises but pain is still there. I know it will take time but I don't see how that will help fixing a level 2 tear an bone spurs. My own personal opinion is the insurance companies are playing a roll in the treatment plan prescribed. Will see. I'll update again in a week

Jan 05, 2011
bone spur in left shoulder coupled with a cyst just about in the same area.
by: Franco

this occurred over a period of time.I'm 65yrs old and a powerlifter. I know it sounds crazy. However I can still lift. Obviously not with the same intensity. Iam going to have surgery, to have both of these problems corrected. I injest a great amount of mineral and vitamin supplements every day. Hopefully, the surgery will go okay. I don't plan on giving up my lifting. I've won a few meets in my age group....and whatever happens I'm positive. Anybody have any suggestions for now, that can alleviate some of the pain?

Jan 18, 2011
rehab of bone spur shoulder surgery
by: marg

Hi!

Sorry to hear about your pain. I'd get a second opinion. If you are in the Boston area, Dr. Scott Martin at the Brigham and Women's hospital is amazing!

I had a hemi proximal humerus replacement surgery in 10.09 due to a bicycle accident! The humerus was replaced with a titanium one and my greater tuberosity was literally glued together after a bone graft. The recovery from that was horrendous due to the nature of the trauma I suffered. I was not only swollen for seven months but a lot of scar tissue built up in the joint area. Last Monday I had arthro surgery to remove scar tissue, bone spurs and some arthritis. I am sore but I do not hurt. Critical to recovery is an ACTIVELY AGRESSIVE physical therapy regime. good luck!




Jan 20, 2011
Question
by: Christine

Hi-- I had surgery on my right shoulder 10 days ago, after almost two years of problems & increasing pain. A couple of months before my surgery, my shoulder began "popping" when I moved it, which was pretty painful. My first cortisone shot several months ago worked for a while, buy the second did not help at all. My doc then put me on a course of oral steroids that helped for maybe a week, then back to the same pain, if not a little worse. My pre-surgery MRI showed only a mild ac tear and nothing else, but because of the pain we decided to operate. Apparently during surgery they found a large bone spur, and I was told that was a large contributor to my pain. Now, 10 days post-op, I can't say the pain is better, and the "popping" has started again. I am wondering if anyone can tell me what the popping might be, what a bone spur is in any detail, and whether or not having a bone spur means I am prone to developing more-- I'm worried that I may have the same problem in my other shoulder, because it feels very similar to the right, just not as bad. Yet. Any comments, input, etc. would be much appreciated. Thanks!

Jan 28, 2011
Bone Spur what to do and how to deal
by: Anonymous

I had surgery on my right shoulder on 1/19/11. It was painfuln journey I tell you. I had been complaining about my arm and shoulder for a week in October of 2010 thinking it was my arthritis. But one day I had nothing but numbness in my whole arm and couldn't lift my arm with heart palpitation. So after seeing the emergency room doctor he called the PT session for me. Long story short after seeing 2 doctors and having a MRI. (NOTE don't trust the doctors listen to your body) the first doctor was a Smuck the second actually listened. After getting help from the pt person on the second visit I got an actual MRI. It showed a full tear with thickness on my tendon the supraspinatus and surgery was recommended. I saw the first yes first ortho who was not concerned with listening to me only his thoughts but by the who recognized and said I have a full tear. Told me to work with 1 hand and type 15 minutes each hour and sit for 45. I type all day for a living. Sound adviced I think not and would not go over my MRI with me. So I called my insurance put in a complaint and saw a new Ortho who explained in detail to me what was going on. Set up my surgery and once inside with a open cut found a bone spur it was not my RC at all. Painful yes it is and I did the block as well there is still some discomfort in the surgical area though. I am in PT and it is hard. Ido ask myself because I am in so much pain working through it albeit. When/will I get full range of motion again. It is scary but after 3 months of no usuage of my arm it is harder I have to train and wake up those muscles. So all I can say is listen ot your body and make a concise decision. And most definitely remember the doctors work for you and not the other way around. You ahve a right as a patient to speak up and be heard and valued. Good luck on your journey

Feb 08, 2011
Shoulder surgery/bone spurs
by: Anonymous

I had surgery in November 2010 on my right shoulder. This has definitely not been a cake walk for me. Its now February 2010 and I am still in a lot of pain about 90% of the time. I am also still PT. My deltoid muscle showed a sprain and inflamation due to bursitis was also present after another MRI. I had to stop PT for about a month to give the muscle time to heal. I've had a cortizone shot that didn't give me much relief. I am doing PT again but at a different level. I am still in pain every day. Its actually worst now than it was before the surgery. I see my doctor again on Friday 2/11/11 to see where we go from here. I can say that about 30 days in before the bran and the inflamation I did feel better and my pain level had begun to subside. Getting to sleep at night is hard and getting starting in the mornings are even harder. I don't really know what my next step is.

Feb 12, 2011
shoulder surgery
by: Anonymous

I had Rotator Cuff Repair, along with acromioplasty and clavical resection March 2010. The surgery was not painful, had the nerve block along with general anesthesia. It was all done arthroscopically. It was the Rehab that was very very painfull. My rehab protocal was to do the exercises 5 x a day every day.. I went to physical therapy from March (I started the day after surgery) to September. The arm rotation is fully restored. But I still do get some discomfort in the right shoulder.
Now it appears that the left shoulder has begun going down the same road. Asked if I would do it all over again?.. The answer is Yes!!!.. The pain of rehab was all worth it. So get yourself an experienced orthopedic surgeon, that specializes in shoulders, and is very experienced in arthroscopic surgeries.. and go for it.

Feb 18, 2011
Left Shoulder Bone Spur & Arthritis
by: Anonymous

I am 10 days post surgery for the removal of a bone spur on my left shoulder. The surgeon also cleaned up some arthritis while he was in there. The process for me consisted of: 1) trip to my family doctor. He manipulated the arm and sent me to an Ortho. 2) 1st visit to ortho was immediate xray which showed the bone spur & arthritis. Prescribed meds and once some swelling went down from meds was to start some exercises. After 30 days no improvement from meds on swelling. 3) 2nd visit to Ortho was Cortisone injection and return in 2 weeks. No improvement from the Cortisone injection. At that point he suggested surgery to remove bone spur. Didn't do MRI pre-surgery as he said if there was a tear that he would just fix it while he was in there. Had to go in to remove bone spur anyway. Have been back for my 1st post op apt and was told if I will do my exercises at home I do not have to go to PT ..... I took that option, but I have to tell you it is tough to do them because the shoulder is very sore and the exercises are painful. He said that I could work in the pool and that is a tremendous help. Much less pain in the pool. I can tell that the mobility is coming back but it isn't going to be an overnight thing. I was allergic to my pain meds so am now must on ibuprofin and am having trouble sleeping, but hopefully that will improve. Pain after surgery wasn't a cakewalk, but it was bearable!

Mar 15, 2011
Scheduled for Arthoscopic Bone Spur
by: Anonymous20

I enjoyed reading your comments. I hate not being able to golf. I went through the PT and then the Cortisone and then the MRI. He says Bone spurs, but no rotator cuff tear. That is good news! The poster who said "the more you move the arm, the spur is like a sharp knife cutting things in there, the worse it gets." I have found that to be true. It used to hurt only in my biceps, but now the entire shoulder and up my neck to my jaw hurts. I repeated that "knife" analogy to my man, and he said I should wear a sling, so I've got one on. He is sorry about that advice! I need help doing a lot of things with this silly sling on... Sleep is tough. Range of movement is increasingly limited. Surgery on March 25, 2011. I am thankful it's only 1 1/2 weeks away!

Mar 27, 2011
just had my op
by: boo

Hi all, I've been in pain with my shoulder for over two years. I've done the physio and the steroid injections which did nothing. The physio helped a little to start with. I've now had my op on 25th March. They scraped the bone and trimmed the tendon. But thank goodness no other damage found .I'm in crippling pain and doing my exercises which hurt so much my eyes water with the pain. But time will tell if there's any improvement. Hope so.

Mar 27, 2011
Surgery Done! Waiting for Post Op Appt.
by: Anonymous20

Bo,

It appears we had our surgeries on the same day. March 25th. I'm not real sure what my doctor did. I was pretty incoherent while he was explaining it to me...He did remove bone spurs, fix some fraying (whatever that is), did something with the clavicle, drained some fluids, etc. I'll find out for sure on the 31st. My post op appointment is then.

Here is what worries me about you. My doctor is making me keep my arm in a sling till Monday, and I can't remove the packing till then either. I am to do NO exercises until AFTER the post op appointment when they will have me do physical therapy. Doing exercises while the wounds are fresh will just open them up and they won't heal. I'm pretty sure you need to check with your doc prior to exercising.

I understand the pain you are in. It's very hard to sleep, and I'm taking the generic Vicodin regularly, but it's a burning pain. All those drugs seem to do is make me "loopy." My doc is "on call" this weekend, and I was instructed to call him if the drugs aren't working, but I don't want to bother him.....

I'm doing ice packs every hour for 15 minutes, and those really seem to help. I just don't do them at night.

Keep us posted as to your progress, Bo. I'll be back after I get the report on the 31st.

Apr 15, 2011
dj
by: Anonymous

i had s a d op for a spur in left shoulder 3 weeks ago. all went well 1st week them after physio at hospital i was in agony again. I was given exercise sheet to start day after op and i did those i could, honest!! Physio very pleased with progress but i feel i went back one step. seen spec again and i was told i should use my meds more{ I didnt like the really strong ones in the day as i felt spaced out!} But told to use really strong meds at bedtime and these are helping me sleep. I also sleep with small pillow under left armpit and this also helps.I am now feeling more positive as ive got to get going again and hope to soon be back at work. good luck to all of you.i will keep up with the exercises as i know its for my own good.

Apr 15, 2011
Do Your Physical Therapy Exercises
by: Anonymous

So here's the deal. I went to my physical therapy, and it hurts! BUT I posted on facebook, and a person commented. Same thing. Shoulder surgery. Two people. Both in physical therapy. SHE did her exercises faithfully, but her friend did not. SHE can comb her hair, and her friend can not.

You must do the exercises. Work through the pain! It's been 3 weeks since my surgery, and I can touch the top of my head, and the back of my neck, and I move my shoulder as much as I can. I refuse to have a frozen shoulder because I can't stand pain! I can take the pain. It is NOTHING like childbirth!

I'm happy to do the exercises! I still worry about Bo, because my therapist told me if you exert too much, you can have a set back! You need to listen to the therapist and only do what they tell you to do.

We are all different, so what works for me might not work for you. It's just good to have this support group!

I hope we all get full function back soon!!

Apr 19, 2011
Shoulder surgery
by: Stephanie H

I had my operation on the 11th April, 2011. I had a subacromial deconpression and removal of a bone spur of my right shoulder. I started pysio on the 14th April, and yes it is still very painfull, i also dont want to end up with a frozen shoulder. I feel i have gone backwards with the pain,i dont want a frozen shoulder, so i will be working hard on my exercises. I went today to have my left shoulder ultrasound and xrayed and guess what?, i have the same and this time i have a tear also,omg, when does this all end.

Apr 19, 2011
Shoulder surgery
by: Stephanie H

I had my operation on the 11th April, 2011. I had a subacromial deconpression and removal of a bone spur of my right shoulder. I started pysio on the 14th April, and yes it is still very painfull, i also dont want to end up with a frozen shoulder. I feel i have gone backwards with the pain,i dont want a frozen shoulder, so i will be working hard on my exercises. I went today to have my left shoulder ultrasound and xrayed and guess what?, i have the same and this time i have a tear also,omg, when does this all end.!!!

Apr 19, 2011
Hang in There
by: Anonymous20

Stephanie! How awful! BOTH arms! Well, don't have surgery on the other till you get THIS one fully operational. YES! The pain is worse AFTER surgery, but the good news is that it gets better! Been 3 weeks now since mine, and I can see and feel noticeable improvement. It still hurts, but that burning, pinching pain is gone at night, and I can comb my hair (almost)! Still hurts, but I see the light at the end of the tunnel.

Your left arm with the tear will take much longer to heal, so be sure you get this one fixed first!

My prayers are going up for you! Get well!!

What did you do to get BOTH arms injured like this? Swimming? Just wondering........

Apr 27, 2011
Shoulder surgery
by: Kim

I had surgery in August of 2010 after suffering excrutiating pain for a year with tendonitis. The PT did not help, and the injections gave me temporary relief. The MRI showed only tendonitis. I went in for the surgery to find out what was causing the pain, and the doctor found what he called a bone spur and shards. He checked the rest of the joint and found no other abnormalities. I was in a sling for 48 hours, and then could do whatever I wanted. I had no pain at all after the surgery and played 18 holes of golf with 72 hours. I was amazed and so was the doctor. Well, you know how they say all good things come to an end? This past Thanksgiving weekend, I was in the worst pain I ever had. The shoulder felt as though it was broken, which the doctor said is how it would feel right after the surgery, and the pain eventunally travelled into my neck. It went away, but now, every time I do something fairly physical, I get the same pinching, burning, impinged feeling in the shoulder. It is my right shoulder and I am right handed. If I keep it relatively quiet, I have no problems with it at all. I went back to doing my PT exercises, but that made it worse again. I am going back to my surgeon on Friday to see what this is all about. Are tendonitis and bursitis the same thing? If not, how do they differ?

Apr 29, 2011
To Kim
by: Anonymous20

Kim, was your first surgery on your right shoulder?

Most doctors will not let you get back to golf for at least 7 weeks! Risk is re-injury and a huge mess! My bone spur surgery is now one month old, and it still pinches and burns a little at night, but not like it used to, and because of physical therapy, I can reach up and put dishes away, comb my hair, but fastening the bra on the back is a long way away!!

It's been 4 weeks for me, and I am allowed to pitch, chip, and putt.

Please keep us posted on what your surgeon says this time. We are all pulling for you!

Apr 30, 2011
To Anonymous20
by: Kim

I was allowed to do whatever I felt I was able to after 48 hours. My surgeon told me I probably would not feel like doing much for a few weeks, but I felt fantastic the very next day after the surgery. (He is an EXCELLENT surgeon.)I do have a very high pain tolerance and am never a textbook case for anything! But I played many rounds of golf between my surgery and my initial flair up. He told me the bone spurs were from 50 years of repeated use of my dominant arm and not at all uncommon, especially since I have been a golfer since the age of 6!

I went back yesterday and the tendonitis and bone spur area are fine. There is some inflammation in another part of the joint (at the top part of the shoulder), which I can't remember what he called it. He gave me an injection right into the joint and I feel fabulous today, just a bruised feeling when I touch the area where he injected me. Then he told me the bad news - once you have one shoulder problem you are very susceptible to chronic problems. It is the most complicated joint in your body. When one area is inflammed, it causes stress to other areas which will flair up later, and he thinks that is exactly what my current problem is about. A physiologist told me the same thing a few months ago. That same doctor also told me to expect bone spur surgery every 8-10 years after you have had it once. At least now I know these things and will not let as much time pass before doing something about it! I go back to see the surgeon in 3 weeks. Unfortunately, injections usually only hold me for a short time. I respond quickly, but it doesn't last. But I am enjoying my day with a full range of pain free motion! lol

Thank you for your support and I wish you a VERY speedy recovery!

May 19, 2011
Think twice about surgery..
by: Anonymous

Had two bone spurs removed from right shoulder on Jan 19, 2011. Started pt six days later, pain shelved my rehab for several days. Here it is May 19, my shoulder is worse that it was before the surgery. I don't know whether I got the right pt for it. I may have used it too much during my early time of recovery. It felt better two weeks after surgery than it does now. ??????

May 20, 2011
7 Weeks Post Surgery Status
by: Anonymous20

I love this site! So nice to keep up with everyone!

My bone spur surgery was March 25th. There was a lot of fraying on my tendon, so doc had to clean that up too. Tendon is pretty tender still, and still slight pain in the shoulder, but NOTHING like before! I'm getting better!

I went to my surgeon last week for the re-check, and he was disappointed in my range of movement, as was I, and I told him I wasn't thrilled with my PT, so he ordered a new round of therapy with a different therapist. AMAZING! First time I went I got 10 degrees of motion that I didn't have before! I've been 3 times now, and I can actually fasten a necklace behind my neck with zero pain! I can slide my hand up my side clear to under my arm with no pain! He says it will take longer to get up to the bra fastening, but I'm well on my way, and the full golf swing is in sight! (This means new fitted clubs for my birthday..so I'm motivated)!

If you aren't happy with your PT, ask your doc for a new order, explain why, and he'll do it for you. There are a lot of different therapists out there, and not all are equal. Your surgeon wants you to get better more than YOU do! His Ego depends on it!

Keep us posted, and hang in there! If you aren't seeing progress, get a new PT!

Jun 06, 2011
Shoulder surgery June 8, 2011
by: popeye

How long was it for your shoulder to feel better after sugery ? I know that there is PT involved, just how long does this take too ?

Jun 06, 2011
Partial paralysis after bone spur removal
by: Anonymous

My brother was having severe pain and numbness down his arm into his hand and fingers. After (2) unsuccessful cortisone shots, no relief. Had
CT Scan and then MRI . . found (2) bone spurs on
C4 and C10. . .just had surgery to remove . .pain
gone when woke up from surgery but no he has partial paralysis of his arm and cannot lift up
at elbow .. of course, he is freaking out but Drs.
say this loss of usage of arm will return, it will
just take time .. anyone else had this happen after this type of surgery and what was your outcome . . Thanks for any input!

Jun 06, 2011
9 Weeks Post Surgery Status
by: Anonymous20

My first PT told me it takes time before people are glad they did it. (the surgery). She was right!

Let me first say, I only had a bone spur and a fraying rotator cuff (you should see the pictures..OMG! the feathery fraying of what should be smooth) Any longer, and it would have torn!

I am in no pain at all now after 9 weeks of recovery. It takes a lot longer if the cuff actually tears!

I am 2" from fastening the bra, but I can do a full golf swing! Did you hear me? A full golf swing!!

I am so grateful for my second PT. He rules my world! I go in on Thursday to the surgeon for a recheck, and I think, actually, I am sure! He is going to tell me to go away and not come back!!

I'll come back and post, and encourage, but I think my surgery is healed! There is a little bit of pain, but nothing wakes me up in the night, and I can sleep on my right shoulder again! My favorite way to sleep!

Good luck to all of you!




Jun 07, 2011
9 weeks post op
by: boo

I too am glad I've had it done. I had a torn tendon. I'm still in some pain but I feel I've turned a corner and I feel my shoulder will be painless in a matter of weeks. I too can fasten my bra and sleep on my right side with very little pain. I do feel that I need to keep up with my pt. I have been discharged from the pt department now, unless of course I have any problems. So hang on in there and you too will be pain free.

Boo

Jun 14, 2011
thanks for all your wisdom
by: Anonymous

Going in for surgery tomorrow and not sure what to expect recovery-wise. Any recommendations on what to do or not do in the first weeks post-op to speed recovery time?

Many of my symptoms mimic what others have written about. I have two bone spurs and arthritis and have been battling ongoing acute pain the last 18 months since a rotator cuff injury.

Early on I had an MRI, which did not show a tear. Did a cortisone shot with some relief. PT brought some help, but it also triggered horrible 24-hour migraines, so I stopped. Chiropractic helped for maintenance and when my collar bone popped out of alignment (almost weekly). It's still been hurting and swollen, can't sleep on my right side and taking naproxen all the time to sleep through the night.

Today had Xrays and surgery was clearly needed, so I opted for the earliest date possible. I wish we'd done the Xray earlier. I am hopeful that this will do the trick. I'm in my early 40s and have had tendonitis on and off since my early 20s. I work in the computer field and think that's a lot of what caused my problems.

My surgeon says I can swim after a month and I hope to do that daily once the wounds are healed (perhaps not the butterfly quite yet, but using resistance of the water for exercises).


Jun 14, 2011
RE thanks for all your wisdom
by: Anonymous20

This is a wonderful place to learn about others experiences who are in the same boat as you!

You might be surprised that you are in MORE pain post surgery than you were before, so remember it takes time to recover. If you live with the spurs, you live with the pain. If you get the spurs removed, once the inflammation from the surgery heals, and you faithfully do your icing and physical therapy, the pain gradually gets better!

I happily took the pain killers the Surgeon prescribed to sleep at night, but I didn't take them during the day. They made me too loopy!

One really important thing to do is to keep your shoulder iced. They sold me something at the hospital with a lot of gel in it shaped for the shoulder. I also bought something from my PT, and I keep both gel packs frozen. Just ice for about 15 minutes every couple of hours. This keeps the swelling down.

If you have a choice of physical therapists, try to find one who knows pressure points, because they can magically press on a resistant muscle, loosen it up, and your movement comes right back with no pain!

Keep us posted! Hang in there, and Good luck with your surgery!

Jun 14, 2011
10 months out of surgery
by: Anonymous

After reading all these posts, I consider myself EXTREMELY lucky. I only had a bone spur and shards - no muscle or tendon damage. As I said earlier, I had no pain with the surgery and was doing everything in a completely normal fashion in 2-3 days with no PT. I have learned since that a lot of recovery has to do with the surgeon him/herself. The more gentle they are in removing the spur, the easier the recovery. Also, the longer the spur is in there, the more damage and the longer the recovery.
I have some other issues now - I can't remember what the doctor called it. But he said less than 10% of patients get it, and 99% of them are men. I'm a woman - go figure! I am not in nearly as much discomfort as before the surgery. If I had to live the rest of my life this way, I could. It would just be nice to be completely pain free all the time!

Jul 22, 2011
shoulder surgery
by: Anonymous

i had shoulder surgery april 15 2011 it was the worse possible thing i went though the pain was horrible and still is i had bone spurs and some of clavicle was removed i had mri done on it yesterday where they put a needle in my shoulder and shot Novocaine in it then the contrast it was so painful. i see the specialist on monday for the results.

Jul 27, 2011
Bone Spurs
by: Anonymous

I had surgery in June 11 to remove two large bone spurs. Rehab was worthless in this case because the bone spurs were cutting into my tendon and causing inflamation when I moved my arm. Continued rehab would have only made things worse and surgery was the only option. Directly after the surgery they suggested rehab and started exercises almost immediately, looking back on it I wonder if we rushed that process a bit. I also strained it a couple of times, specifically on the 4th I fell down the stairs and grabbed the railing in my house and strained it. This is almost unavoidable with a shoulder injury and these types of little strains are common. You have to be really really careful, but it is subconsious to use the arm. On the 5th week I was released back to full duty at work and have been lifting slightly on it, last week it became really inflamed. Not sure if it is from the fall on the 4th of July or it is just the normal healing process. Anti Inflamatory drugs seem to work, but I dislike taking them. In some ways it seems better, but it still feels like pressure in certain places and just feels "weird" at certain times. Not sure if that makes sense, maybe you have to experience it to understand. I am going to have another MRI in a week to see if anything is damaged from the fall like a cuff or a ligament or tendon. I am hoping not. All in all it does seem like it has helped with the inflamation I was experiencing prior to the surgery, especially in my clavical and into my neck. If you have really bad bone spurs that are cutting into your tendons or muscles rehab is only going to inflame it. Rehab is not the answer for everything and if you are very active and it is not getting better cortisone injections and rehab are not going to cure it, only mask the pain and rehab may actually make it worse.

Jul 27, 2011
Response to Bone Spurs
by: Anonymous

I know exactly what you are talking about. I had surgery last August. Mine was easy, but about 5 months later I had a pinched feeling where the spur was. While I no longer had full range of movement, I had more than I did prior to the surgery. The pain was not as intense. I just knew something wasn't right. I had another MRI done and it showed nothing, but the first MRI did not show the spur either. Steroid shots help, but for a limited period of time. The more I move the shoulder, the sorer it gets. A friend of mine, who is an athletic trainer, suggested that the doctor may not have scraped away enough bone where the spur was and that the opening was still too narrow and rubbing against the tendon. The only way we can tell that is to do surgery again. I have decided to take a wait and see attitude!

Good luck in your recoveries everyone!

Jul 27, 2011
shoulder surgery
by: Anonymous

I am schedulerd for surgery 8/12/11 for removal of 2 large bone spurs abrasions and impingment after reading these post I am scared to death, I felt better before reading this. Does anyone have any input about the pain pump my Doc recomends? Also I took off the day of surgery and 4 more to return to work.Is this enough time? Pain wise I am also very concerned and dont really have anyone at home to help. I have two dogs who have to be walked will I be able to do that? Any advise will help.

Jul 29, 2011
To Anonymous with Surgery 8-12
by: Anonymous20

Hi! I'm not sure what the pain pump is, but my doc recommended this contraption that holds a frozen gel pac which easily hugs your shoulder. The pump gets it really close so it doesn't fall off (but it's hard to figure out if you don't have somebody to help you put it on). Be sure you are able to do it with one hand because your surgery side will be useless!! I used it and also another gel pac like they use at physical therapy. The more you ice, the less pain you feel, because the ice keeps the swelling down.

My man is in your same boat. I'm driving him to and from surgery on the 12th of August for 2 bone spurs. My doctor insisted someone be here for at least 24 hours after the surgery because you will be really loopy from the drugs they give you. I hope you can enlist the help of somebody. I'll come back here and post his progress. He is an athlete and is certain this won't get him down!

As far as returning to work in 4 days, I don't see a problem. You will be in pain for a couple months, but I only took my pain pills at night because they made me too loopy during the day, and I have things to do!

3 months after my surgery (March 25th 2011), I was pain free and had full movement. I finally got happy I did the surgery! 4 months later, I still feel great.

I did switch physical therapists, and was happy I did, because I found one that knew pressure points, and with just pressure on an atrophied muscle for a minute, NO MORE PAIN moving that muscle!

I wish you a successful surgery! You and JD are having it the same day. I will come back and post his progress and would love to hear how you are doing! Please get someone to help you!

Aug 03, 2011
burning after shoulder surgery
by: Amy

Hello,

I had surgery on March 22nd 2011. It has been about 4 months and the pain and burning under my scar is so severe. I hear that it may be scar tissue. i had bone spurs shaved and half of my bursa removed. Is anyone wlse experiencing this?

Aug 13, 2011
Surgery yesterday for JD
by: Anonymous20

First let me say, Amy, I'm sorry your recovery isn't going so well. After 3 months I felt much better, and now, no pain at all. Like new!

JD went under the knife yesterday, and he had the nerve block (man I hated that block). They explained that shoulder surgery is one of the most painful surgeries, and you need to start the pain drugs at the first sign of pain. They stressed NO lifting or anything until the post op appointment in a week with the doc. They do NOT want him to rip what the doc sewed back together.

If you are scheduled for surgery, or are looking for a surgeon, do your homework. Get one recommended by patients. You want the BEST! It's worth the drive to go to the best! Here are two sites that have patient reviews and you can search by specialty and zip code: http://www.healthgrades.com/ http://www.vitals.com/

I'll return with JD's progress, but I know there is another here who had surgery for the same thing on the 12th, and hope to hear the progress there too.

I hope you feel better soon, Amy.


Aug 13, 2011
still in pain
by: boo

Hi all, I had my surgery in March they removed some bone but couldn't repair my bicep tendon so apparently I now only have one. Most of the pain has gone away but I do still get some pain. I still need my pain killers but I manage on 2 a day. I have a good range of movement better than before the op. I work in a nursing home and a couple of my colleges have had the same op and they too have some pain and there op was a couple years ago. So I'm afraid I may have to live the small amount of pain I do have. I am considering changing my job as a carer to working with people with learning difficulties where at least I won't have to do any moving handling which is a shame as I love my job, but I can feel my other shoulder beginning to have tell tale signs of wearing and I don't want to have to go through another operation if I can avoid it. Hope you all have success with your ops as I feel I've done quite well with mine.

Aug 18, 2011
Waiting For Ever
by: SamSam

Pain very bad in right shoulder (2 years).Family Dr. advised me to loose weight on arm, tingling would go away, and not to sleep on the sore shoulder. (Ha Ha) Had accident in Oct/10 which added more pain to my right shoulder, could not move upper arm and pain really bad. X-ray showed no break. Had altra sound and Dr. advised PT, did not help. Finally got to have( 18 months later) MIR last week. Showed 2 fine hair line fractors, 2 sharp bone spours, 1 large tare, fluid probelm. Am booked to see surgeon in 9 weeks.

PLEASE HELP!!! After reading the postings,glad surgery was the best way to go. I will probably need surgery. I have allergy to the following drugs, morphine, demerol, oxycodone, percocet, toradol, tylenol and valium. How bad is the pain after surgey and is ther anything I will be able to take?

Aug 18, 2011
To Sam Sam, and Update on JD
by: Anonymous20

Well, Sam Sam, seems like you endured a lot! I needed the pain pills only at night, and JD only took 3 since his surgery a week ago. I think men are pretty tough!

Can you take Vicodin (a form of codeine) ? That is a goodie! pretty much knocks you out! It will be a while after surgery that you can sleep on that right side, but it will happen! Took me 4 months (and others longer) to be glad they had the surgery. We all heal differently.

JD had his one week follow up post surgery today. He had his stitches removed, and the doc said he's doing well. The doctor gave him simple exercises (which I have done, so I'll make sure he does them)until the best Physical Therapist gets back from vacation. He is faithfully icing the shoulder. We have two gel packs frozen, so he switches back and forth. The doctor was very pleased with his progress.

Good Luck on your surgery, Sam Sam, and keep us posted!

Aug 19, 2011
To Anonymous 20
by: SamSam

Thanks for all the information. I am afraid to say also have allergy to Vicodin (any codeine medication). Went home from gallbladder surgery with no pain medication. Hope the Dr.'s figure out what I can have this time. Will keep you posted. Thanks again.

Aug 19, 2011
To Sam Sam, and Update on JD
by: Anonymous

Allergic to Codeine too? How about marijuana? or Sleep inducing drugs. This IS one of the most painful of all surgeries. So, ask your surgeon if he can find an herbal thing or something to help you.

As for JD. He is doing the preliminary exercises. Little circles bent over with the arm hanging and making circles. This prevents cobwebs (aka atrophy) from forming. He does the saw movement, and he hates that. The crawling up the wall with his fingers is hard for him. Mr. Macho Man actually is NOT happy with that! But he's doing it. Icing now, at the moment.

Please keep us posted on your progress!

Aug 30, 2011
Anonymous
by: SamSam

Well my shoulder is in sooo much pain, and movement is less - I still have 1 more month before I see the specialist. Went to the ER and because of all my alergies, they told me to take 2 asprins and I just would have to wait. Hope I last till then

Aug 30, 2011
To SamSam
by: Anonymous

SamSam,

I had extreme pain before my surgery and had limited movement. I could not sleep at all at night because the pain was worse then. Everyone told me shoulder surgery was the worst painwise - the doctor included. I had bone spurs, fluid, and some shredding of the tendons. I expected the worse. Once the numbing medicine for the surgery wore off, I was pain free for the first time in a year and a half. I have not had one ounce of pain since. Not everyone experiences the pain they say you can have with the surgery. A lot depends on the surgeon and how gentle they are when they go in there. The busiest surgeons are the worst because they try to operate on as many people as they can and don't have time to be gentle. I swear to you - no pain at all and no PT needed. Had full range of movement in a week and was allowed to resume all normal activities within a month, including sports. The doctor matters in this surgery, and the best isn't always the best choice because they don't take their time.

Good luck and keep us posted!

Aug 31, 2011
left shoulder two time
by: Anonymous

had surgery back in 08,for bone spur and tear.had it again aug.2011.bone spur and ot.shoulder still not well,can not work.now having neck pain.go back to doctor sept, 6.

Aug 31, 2011
left shoulder two time
by: Anonymous

had surgery back in 08,for bone spur and tear.had it again aug.2011.bone spur and ot.shoulder still not well,can not work.now having neck pain.go back to doctor sept, 6.

Sep 17, 2011
JD's Update
by: Anonymous20

Well, it's been over one month, he does his PT faithfully, exercises faithfully, and the pain got better, but now is getting worse! Of course it is! That's what happens. Big strong macho man can't believe that I was right!

This surgery takes time to heal, mainly because muscles atrophy from lack of use due to pain, and getting them back does hurt!

He saw how long it took me to recover, 3 months, and he now understands.

My sad story is I had sinus surgery which the doc said was easy. Easy for him, maybe. My story is here: http://www.experienceproject.com/stories/Had-Sinus-Surgery/1782991

I'd have bone spurs removed any day over that stupid sinus stuff!!

Good luck to all of you!

Sep 29, 2011
Sam's up date
by: Sam Sam

After waiting another 9 weeks, finally saw surgeon today(only 2 1/2 hrs. behind appt. time).
Dr. decided to give me a cortisone injection - what fun, sorry but this hurt and my shoulder is in more pian. Dr. wants be back at PY for another 7 weeks. Following up with Dr. on Nov 15. So over 1 year since the accident and I am back at square one and in the same amount of pain. Back to PY I will go and will keep you all posted. Hope everyone is doing ok.

Sep 29, 2011
To Sam Sam, and Update on JD
by: Anonymous20

Sorry things are not going well. JD is in the same boat. I told him it takes 3 months to recover, but he did not believe. His arm hurts like it did before, and his shoulder hurts. Been there done that. Inflammation takes time to heal. Takes 3 full months, and if you have a rotator cuff tear, longer!

My stupid nose surgery is in limbo. I can't breathe! Doc tries to numb my nose and clean, but I feel every single thing! Sorry I did this one! I have to go there every week and sit in "the chair of doom."

Give it time Sam Sam!


Sep 29, 2011
To Sam Sam
by: Anonymous20

Sam Sam,

I don't think I listened to your last post. Too into posting about JD and me.

I am very worried about you. That is the drill. Cortisone shot that doesn't work. Then the MRI, Then surgery. Sorry it takes so long. It just does. I hope you have a good surgeon. Please keep us posted.

Suzi

Sep 29, 2011
Different Route!
by: Anonymous

I had surgery more than a year ago for a bone spur, no muscle damage. Was great for 3 months, then excrutiating pain. Went back and forth with the surgeon who finally said I was probably one of the 10% of people who never have full relief. But we did another MRI and the shoulder looks great. So he sent me to a pain management specialist who I now refer to as God. After 2 treatments of muscle trigger point therapy, I have found relief in the shoulder. Now we just have to get the pain out of the neck (no pun intended)! This doctor, a physiotherapist, told me that after having a bone spur with or without muscle damage, the muscles become atrophied. When you start using them again, whether with PT or just everyday use (my case), the muscles will rebel. I cannot tell you how much relief I have had between the physiotherapist and the soft manipulation chiropractor - no bone crunching at all. Simple muscle manipulation. I strongly recommend anyone who has had or may be having this surgery to find a trigger point therapist as follow-up therapy. No drugs or shots involved, just simple, feel good therapy that works like a charm.

Oct 03, 2011
Anoymous 20
by: SamSam

I did have the mri in the first week of Aug and had to wait 9 weeks to see the surgeon. She wanted to try the cordisone shot first, go back to py and wait 2 months to see her. It has been (1) year since the accident. This has taken too long and still in a lot of pain. The waiting is driving me crazy. Hope everyone one is doing ok.

Oct 03, 2011
To Sam Sam & Different Route
by: Anonymous20

First, Different Route is right on! A good therapist who knows pressure points, muscle manipulation is a must! Makes everything so much easier. I'd get on the phone and interview every therapist within 30 miles to find those that do these procedures.

Sam Sam, Are you sure there is not another good surgeon who can move faster? The time you are being forced to wait seems extensive. JD and My surgeon is a famous shoulder specialist who treats high profile Athletic team players. He makes time for his patients and gets you in within 2 weeks after the MRI, and surgery within one month. If surgery is indicated, he gets right to it. Maybe you need a second opinion. You already have the MRI and it would be easy to have it sent to other surgeons for their opinions.

Keep us posted!

JD is starting to feel less pain, two months after surgery, so he now has hope. It does take time to heal the inflamation and the atrophied muscles, but it is possible!

Good luck to you!

Oct 26, 2011
glad I did it
by: kayce

I have been a hair stylist for 25 yrs,i recently had surgery on my right shoulder to remove a bone spur and bursa sac. Best thing i ever did. i'm going on week 4 of the recovery process,looking at another 2-4 weeks with therapy and being off work. I'm looking forward to going back to work being pain free and praying a spur doesn't develope on the other shoulder. But i wouldn't hesitate to do the surgery again.

Nov 02, 2011
Wondering if it will be me next
by: Debbie

Hi, just found this site. Interesting reading all your experiences. I go for an MRI in the morning. Results on Monday. I have a lot going on with me. I am having a hip replacement, right side the end of Dec. So whatever I find out with the shoulder if I do need surgery, it won't be done until March at the earliest. I have not been able to sleep in bed for more then two hours for the last two months. Shoulder is right side also. I also had two synvic shots in my right knee in the last few months too. I did fall off a retaining wall last Sept. that hurt my knee, but all of this might be from that too. Oh, the x-ray on the shoulder does show a bone spur. Dr wants to see if it shows anything else before he does anything. Will let you all know when I find out anything.

Nov 04, 2011
low grade fever
by: Debbie

Just wondering if any of you guys ran or run a low grade fever with your arthritis. I never know I have a low grade fever because I take one aspirin and 11 ibuprofen a day. I found out today because I had a physical and they always do bloodwork and I can't eat anything before it, so I don't take my pills either because I can't have food in my stomach. So it was 100.2 today. The last three times I went it was always over 100. I use to always run 97 point something when I was younger. So just wondering if any of you with inflammation from arthritis is causing you to run low grade too.

Nov 04, 2011
Low grade fever
by: Anonymous20

Debbie,

I have had osteoarthritis for years, and a low grade fever has not been an issue. JD, nor myself did not have any fever accompanying our surgeries for bone spurs either.

Who ordered the blood test? If it was your orthopedic surgeon, you should be sure to copy it to your regular doctor. A low grade fever can be caused by many things, but someone needs to figure out what the cause is. It can mean cancer. I hate to even say that word, but please go to an expert with copies of your tests, and get to the bottom of it.

Prayers and good wishes to you!

Nov 07, 2011
Good news, no surgery...for now
by: Debbie

Saw the orthopedic surgeon today and he went over the MRI and said there was a small tear in the rotator cuff and some extra fluid someplace in there and of course the bone spur. He said too soon for surgery, but did give me a cortisone injection. He said it will hurt more tonight, but then I should hopefully see some relief soon. Hopefully it will help as I am getting a hip replacement at the end of this month.

Nov 09, 2011
nine years later...
by: junk

had surgery in 2001 and another in 2011 on the 12th day of sept.

i have experienced pain from day one to date, which is about two months... i used norco to hide the pain but have experience of nausousness so i give them a rest (but two of them really do the job)

i am not in last week of PT and pain seems the same as before surgery with the exception that i now have pain half way between shoulder and neck
(whatever that place is called)

i am now living on tramadol two in the morning and two at night with xanax as a chaser to sleep...

my concern is the tramadol, and how long i can continue using them to make life a little less painful...

Nov 09, 2011
nine years later...
by: junk

had surgery in 2001 and another in 2011 on the 12th day of sept.

i have experienced pain from day one to date, which is about two months... i used norco to hide the pain but have experience of nausousness so i give them a rest (but two of them really do the job)

i am not in last week of PT and pain seems the same as before surgery with the exception that i now have pain half way between shoulder and neck
(whatever that place is called)

i am now living on tramadol two in the morning and two at night with xanax as a chaser to sleep...

my concern is the tramadol, and how long i can continue using them to make life a little less painful...

Nov 09, 2011
nine years later...
by: junk

had surgery in 2001 and another in 2011 on the 12th day of sept.

i have experienced pain from day one to date, which is about two months... i used norco to hide the pain but have experience of nausousness so i give them a rest (but two of them really do the job)

i am not in last week of PT and pain seems the same as before surgery with the exception that i now have pain half way between shoulder and neck
(whatever that place is called)

i am now living on tramadol two in the morning and two at night with xanax as a chaser to sleep...

my concern is the tramadol, and how long i can continue using them to make life a little less painful...

Nov 17, 2011
right shoulder spurs/surgery NEW
by: jimandar

Hello Ive been reading your post on this page regarding shoulder spurs (which i have)scheduled for surgery and im scared to death...im in pain now and it seems i will be in more pain after surgery so whats the use? and the layed up time omg i am a very busy woman i was told after 2 weeks i would be ok and after 6 weeks of pt i would be pain free? so i ask..was i lied to?

Nov 17, 2011
Positive outcome! NEW
by: Anonymous

to Jim:

I had surgery 2 years ago for a bone spur. Before the surgery, I could not lift my arm. I was completely pain-free from the minute the surgery ended. It was amazing. I was lifting my arm over my head 48 hours later with mild soreness. I played golf one week later. About 6 months later, I had a lot of pain which I thought was coming from my shoulder. Turns out it was coming from my neck. Since I had such a great recovery, I became very active and did not go for trigger point therapy, which is essentially massages. The shoulder was perfectly fine, but the muscles were so contracted from protecting the arm for so long. Once I started trigger point therapy, I was pain-free again in a week. Not all stories are bad! The surgeon can make a HUGE difference in whether you will have pain or not. I didn't go to a big city hospital where the surgeons are so busy they rush through the surgery. My surgeon really took his time and cause as little trauma to the area as possible. That is key.

Nov 17, 2011
Checking in after injection NEW
by: Debbie

Just wanted to check in and report the injection that I had 10 days ago has helped. My shoulder doesn't hurt near as much during the day. When I go to bed I always fall asleep on my right side, the side with the spur, and it doesn't hurt then, but if I fall asleep on that side I will wake up a couple hours later and it will hurt. So still dealing, but it is better.

Nov 18, 2011
Everybody is Different NEW
by: Anonymous 20

Injection is step one. It won't last, and the faster you get the surgery, the faster you will feel better. JD is not like me. I was pain free in 3 months.

JD still has pain after 3 months,and he didn't believe me. He is a believer now, but now I'm on his case to go back to the surgeon. I don't like him to be in pain.

Depends on the injury, the bone spurs, and where they are. Depends on your ability to bounce back. We are all different. His spurs could be felt with your hand. Serious.

Good luck to all of you!
Suzi

Nov 18, 2011
almost pain free NEW
by: Anonymous

Hi all, I had my op in March, I was told they had to shave some bone off my shoulder and they found that my bicep tendon was completely torn and un repairable, So I only have one bicep tendon. I did the exercises the physio gave me religiously. I still had to take painkillers for a while, I eventually cut down to one or 2 doses a day. I've recently lost over a stone and joined the gym. I've been using the gym for 5 weeks and I'm now almost pain free. I haven't taken a painkiller for over a week. I use a rubbing gel now and then but I rarely get any pain now. I really wish I had joined the gym months ago. Its well worth the £20 week membership. Hope you all find some comfort. I was luckily enough to find a way to relieve the pain x

Nov 24, 2011
pain in the right shoulder NEW
by: andrew

hi there bin reading all your coments on here i had surgery march 2011 after 2 yrs of pain and 6 injections finally had the op were they went in key hole ans shaved the bone to free up space all was well after op went to physio ect but the pain has come back with advengence cant sleep at night wake up cant move my shoulder at one point thought i had a stroke any way went to docs and exsplained the pain she refered me straight to hospital to see my surgen to no avail he was preoccupied so seen a doctor exsplained to him as above he said it sounds like the problem might have come back so i asked him the bone you shaved grows back no was his reply only the tissue this left me some wot confussed he told me to keep taking the painkillers and do my physio and said that it was mostlikely my job causing the pain as its repetitive work i do then he had the check to say you might want to concider changing jobs what a complete waste of my time so going to phone my surgens secatary and ask to speak direct to him and not get fobbed off

Nov 24, 2011
shoulder pain NEW
by: Anonymous

Hi, I was told something similar , change your job, like that's easy to do. In saying that as I said in my last post I'm almost pain free. Although I have difficulties lifting with my shoulder as its still quite weak. The gym has done wonders for me, hopefully it will keep improving. Hope you get to speak to your surgeon and sorts thing out.

Nov 24, 2011
To Shoulder Pain NEW NEW
by: Anonymous

Try to find a chiropractor or therapist that does trigger point therapy. It could be you need work on the muscles surrounding your shoulder. I had a similar experience to yours and the trigger point therapy was a God send and got rid of the pain completely without meds or surgery.

Dec 01, 2011
My Status NEW
by: brandon

I had surgury on 9-11-01. Now For the last coupple months I am having pain like I did before the surgury I am going back to see the doctor to see what he says I have had shots heat raps 6 mounths of therpey. I am a Paramedic and Active bowler 3 times aweeks so my shoulder is getting used. I don't want to be on pain meds anymore I am hoping he goes in and fixes it again

Dec 19, 2011
Inability to sleep after shoulder surgery NEW
by: scooter

Hey all you guys and gals with shoulder surgery.....try sleeping in a good recliner!! It is much easier. I also still use a real soft pillow plus a long round pillow to elevate my arm to level of comfort. Had spur and lots of "fraying" cleaned up in my shoulder joint. Still have a lot of pain.... it has been about six weeks. I also have a "ridge" of muscle about 1 inch wide across my arm about 3 inches below the shoulder joint. Can't seem to get my Dr. to check it out. It is very sore!! Am still doing PT and home exercises.

Dec 19, 2011
Give it 3 months NEW
by: Anonymous 20

Scooter,

I wasn't glad I did it till 3 months after the surgery, to the day, but JD is still hurting 4 months after his. Different people heal differently. Good luck with your recovery. Keep up the PT!

Dec 20, 2011
cyst and bone spurs NEW
by: Anonymous

i havent went and had a mri done yet but my orthapedic surgeon took a x-ray and he said i had a cyst and bone spurs on top of burcitis i just want to sleep one good night im on perc 7.5's i need something alot stronger this kind of pain can be suicidal ive had 9 reconstructive surgeries both knees left hand and wrist head im a walking set of stitches im not ready to give up yet whats the strongest pain meds yo ur doc;s gave you

Jan 18, 2012
DOING GOOD>>> NEW
by: GENE

I am an active 73 yr old. In the Feb 2011 I started having a mild pain in my r. shoulder, which I had injured in a motorcycle accident 40 years ago. My GP had Xrays taken (mild RA) and and prescribed 6 weeks of PT at the end of which the pain was much worse, movement was now limited and my sleep was affected. Had an MRI (Mild RA. Ortho 1= lapr. surgery for bone spurs and general clean out, Ortho 2= Cort. shots. Both from same medical group). Being an engineer and a skeptic by nature I looked into alternatives and began affordable treatments with a muscular/spasm technique called Neuro Soma as well as daily hops (Beer) based supplement capsules called FlexiPrin. Now tender but no pain, sound sleep, full vertical and almost full behind back movement. Soma therapist is mad because she feels it would be much better if I had stopped my big boat ocean sailboat racing and rowing workouts>> I can live with it!!!

Feb 07, 2012
shoulder surgery today NEW
by: johnnie

had two bone spurs removed today. they did the pain blocker and i really didnt like it. it felt like my arm and hand were asleep all day. been leaving my arm in a sling all day because if i accidently move it even a little bit it brings tears to my eyes. been taking 1 extra strength vicoden every 4 hours for the aching and throbing. they told me to start some easy exercises tomarrow and definently dont let the shoulder get stiff. they are bringing a chair of some kind tomarrow to help move the shoulder and exercise it. wont know any more untill i go back to get stiches out next week.

Feb 10, 2012
NON SURGICAL TREATMENT>>> NEW
by: GENE L.

There seems to be a lot of controversy over shoulder cuff bone spurs causing the pain. Many people show what is described as spurs but have no pain. Does Has anyone had any experience with Prolotherapy injections??

Feb 17, 2012
3 days post op NEW
by: Trish

I had surgery Feb 14 on left shoulder, it was suppose to be for rotator cuff tear, but when they got in there found it was a partial tear so they didn't do anything with it. They did, however, remove bone spurs, bursa, etc. I haven't seen the surgeon or pictures afterwards yet, the surgeon went over it all with my boyfriend while I was in recovery he said there was so many pics and the od was talking so fast he couldn't keep up.
I also have fibromyalgia so my body deals with pain in a different way. Pain is intensified in some cases as what someone else may feel. The pain after surgery actually has not been as bad as what I was expecting, but I was originally expecting rotator cuff repair. I am taking Norco for pain, which is what I take every day anyway. I have used the ice machine almost constantly since surgery and I hate to think what the pain would be like without it.
I have some swelling in my arm and fingers today that was not there yesterday. I got to take a shower today for the first time and the stitches look fine. I looked forward to that shower so much but was dissapointed as I got dizzy and almost passed out in there. Not sure why, I don't have a fever, my incisions look good, and the swelling is not red or anything so I don't think I have an infection.
I have been doing the exercises they gave me to do and they are not bad, they feel kind of good instead of just letting it get all stiff.
The inconveniences post op are bothering me more than the pain. The strap from the sling is rubbing my neck raw so I've stuffed an old cotton t-shirt under it to help cushion it. Sleeping is really irritating. I have been a stomach sleeper all my life and obviously am not able to. My pelvic bone is twisted and causes a lot of hip pain so sleeping on my side or back bothers it, but I take my pain pills and a sleeping pill and make it through the night. I am use to not sleeping well at night anyway, so I'll deal with it.
I did have the nerve block for surgery but I have to say I hated it after I got home! My hand tingled the whole time and I hated having no control over my arm whatsoever.

Feb 25, 2012
Update NEW
by: Trish

Just thought I would post an update. It's 10 days post op. I was sick for several days after surgery, but that was to be expected as surgery can cause a flare up in fibromyalgia, but I made it through it though I still get tired pretty easy but nothing I can't handle.
Had my first follow up appointment today and got the stitches taken out and finally got to see for myself what was done. I had a large bone spur removed, they shaved down the partial tear of my rotator cuff, said they do that until it bleeds so that it will grow more tissue and heal. They removed the bursa and the end of the collar bone was removed. I had some fraying and a hole in some ligament too, but they just shaved down the fraying said if they stitched up the hole I'd not be able to ever move my arm away from my body again.
The pain is not that bad, but I am still on my regular pain killers of course. the doc told me since there was so much bone work that the pain would be there for a couple months, possibly longer due to my fibro.
I was told I can take the sling off, thank God as it was driving me nuts. he did tell me to use it though if I start hurting and need some support, and suggested if I go anywhere there may be any type of crowd to put it on to let other people know to steer clear and be careful not to bump into me.
I start physical therapy next week. He did the referral for 2-3 times a week for 6 to 12 weeks.
I'm pleased with how well things have gone, as that is usually not my luck when it comes to medical things. Usually it has been my experience that if anything can go wrong it will for me so this is nice!
He told me basically how well I do is up to me and how well I follow the program they lay out for me.

Feb 25, 2012
Thanks for the Update NEW
by: Anonymous 20

Trish, it was so nice of you to post your update! I'm glad you are doing better, and if you keep that attitude I'm sure it will help you heal faster. Sounds like you had a good doctor who explained everything to you. Wish everyone here had your positive experience!

Wearing the sling in crowds may help, but I had a broken shoulder a long time ago, and had to wear a sling, and I cant tell you how many thought my arm was broken, so they would pat me on the shoulder, and I would melt down and cringe under the pressure of their hands of sympathy!

My surgery was one year ago in March, and 3 months later, I had zero pain and full motion. My husband had something more like what you experienced last June, and it's better, but he still has pain. Somehow, he has no pain when he golfs or fly fishes.... :-)

I had my first golfing lesson yesterday after one year off, and my pro was impressed! She has seen others go through this surgery, but it takes many a lot longer than me to get their movement back.

I love your positive attitude, and I know it will help you! Don't forget to ice your wounds often. That helps the swelling go down, and make sure your physical therapist knows pressure points. Don't be afraid to switch therapists if you aren't seeing progress!

Good luck in your recovery!

Mar 22, 2012
shoulder surgery NEW
by: Kc

I had the decompression. surgery with removal of bone spurs.
It has been two weeks and the pain is unreal. Just started pt and it is slow. They gave me this stupid arm raising machine and I think that set ms back. Not sure if the pain I am getting is from the surgery or muscle pain from pt . It is brutal. Supposed to return to work next week. Not sure how. This is so depressing. Keep asking myself if the surgery did not work.

Mar 25, 2012
Black and Blue marks NEW
by: Shana

Hi,
I had a right shoulder decompression surgery on Februruary 16, 2012. I am still having pain and am unable to find a good sleeping position at night.
This past weekend the pain got worse to a point where I had to take some pain killers. Today, I noticed that one of the incisions turned black and blue. Should I consult the doctor about it?

Mar 26, 2012
Hang In There!! Takes at least 3 months to be pain free! NEW
by: Anonymous

One month is not enough for you to be pain free. I wasn't really happy I did the surgery until 3 months after! Then, and now, I am very glad I did it. The exercises do help! Don't slack on those! A woman at physical therapy told me she and her friend got the surgery at the same time. She did her exercises. Her friend did not. She is normal now, but her friend can't even comb her hair! Very important to do the physical therapy! Hang in there. Get well soon!

Mar 26, 2012
Black and Blue NEW
by: Anonymous

Hi,

Thank you for your encouraging reply. I am mainly concerned about the black and blue marks that suddenly appeared yesterday on the site of my incision.
Any Ideas?

Thanks,
Shana

Mar 26, 2012
Black and Blue Marks NEW
by: Anonymous20

Black and Blue marks come from interior bleeding. I'd call the doc and ask him. He might want to look at it. Good luck with your recovery. Let us know what he says!

Mar 26, 2012
Black and Blue marks NEW
by: Anonymous

Thanks again for your prompt reply.
I will call doctor today and will keep you posted.
Shana

Mar 26, 2012
pain free NEW
by: Boo

Hi all, as I've posted before, I had my op 12 months ago and i'm doing great. hardly no pain I rarely need pain killers , in my opinion its all down to weight lifting . I only lift small weights but its done me loads off good, I still have some weakness in my shoulder/arm but that I can cope with. So guys there was light at the end of my tunnel I hope there is for you too.
Boo

Mar 28, 2012
Removed bone spur NEW
by: AnonymousDavid

Hi all,ii had shoulder surgery to remove a bone spur on28/3/2012'no pain arm num,does the water drain away as I can hear it slopping around and shoulder is like a ballon.

May 27, 2012
No pain, no gain NEW
by: Cheryl

This was not true in my case. I had a retracted rotator cuff tear, slap tear, bone spurs, impingement.
Had surgery artho 10 weeks ago....in worse pain now then before surgery. 1st month complete rest no movement of arm other than codman pendulums..2 nd month PT...passive assist..saw Dr after that....tried to raise arm....said stop all PT...shoulder is frozen. Said that pain from PT exacerbated the problem and said studies have concluded frozen shoulder will heal on its own . And not to do any exercises that causes it pain. Sounded counterproductive to me.. Also, my hand has been swollen since surgery and says that is due to no shoulder movement. The bone pain Is excruciating and is said to last for many months. Thank God for Motrin and ice ! I wish I had been told more of what to expect. I have an excellent sports surgeon and trust him. He put in contact with another patient who had had a frozen shoulder.and followed his protocol and she now has movement. The thing she stressed was that it will get better but it was going to take alot of patience. I get very frustrated to not be able to do everyday things..I am back at work light duty and wear my sling without
pillow...maybe one day...my heart goes out to all who have had this procedure...be patient!

May 29, 2012
Decomp Surgery NEW
by: Tom

Hi all, I had a Subacromial decomp, removal of two large bone spurs, A/C joint removal (arthritic) and rotator cuff repair (small tear)of the left shoulder on 5/3/12. For those of you who are about to undergo a shoulder surgery please understand that the surgery is nothing compared to therapy. Therapy is quite painfull and a very slow process. I anticipate being in therapy for aprox 6 months. Started therapy only 6 days after the surgery and have noticed improved range of motion with each visit (3x per weeek). Will give an update at some point. Any questions just fire away.

May 29, 2012
Decomp Surgery NEW
by: Tom

Hi all, I had a Subacromial decomp, removal of two large bone spurs, A/C joint removal (arthritic) and rotator cuff repair (small tear)of the left shoulder on 5/3/12. For those of you who are about to undergo a shoulder surgery please understand that the surgery is nothing compared to therapy. Therapy is quite painfull and a very slow process. I anticipate being in therapy for aprox 6 months. Started therapy only 6 days after the surgery and have noticed improved range of motion with each visit (3x per weeek). Will give an update at some point. Any questions just fire away.

May 30, 2012
Shoulder pain NEW
by: Beno

I play a lot of golf and I bowl. Over the last 3-4 days, I've developed a severe pain in my right shoulder at the joint and down the outside of my arm in the deltoid region. Almost every arm motion hurts, especially if I put my arm in a "sling" position across my chest and raise my upper arm rotating the top of my hand upward. About the only motion that is almost pain free is my golf swing. Very strange. Anybody have thoughts here?

May 30, 2012
Golfer! NEW
by: Anonymous

I had a bone spur. Golf was the only thing that didn't bother it! Forget reaching or moving the arm overhead. I had the surgery to remove it and was moving the arm normally within 48 hours and back to golf within a week. I had zero pain through the surgery and no PT. but I caught it early and did not have any damage from the spur. I had neck issues about 3 months later. Turns out that was from trigger points in the muscles in the shoulder blade area as a result of the spur. Soft tissue therapy took care of that in a couple of visits. Good luck!

May 30, 2012
Go to a specialist NEW
by: Anonymous20

Go to vitals.com, and check the references of orthopedic surgeons in your area. Get a good surgeon who specializes in sports injuries. He will do the xrays, do the analysis, and start you out on steroids. If they work, they work. If not, he'll do an MRI and if he finds bone spurs, torn rotator cuff, or any other tendon thing, he'll let you know your options. We really can't help you here, except give you comfort that there is life after the pain. You're doctor is the boss! Good luck to you!
Suzi

May 31, 2012
Maybe I shouldn't have arthoroscopic surgery NEW
by: Anonymous

After reading so many of the comments, I'm concerned. My shoulder hurts in the night maybe 2 or 3 times a week. Never in the day unless I lift weight over my head. My doctor said I have two spurs. One on my clavicle and another probably near it because they can pinch one another. I've been doingPT exercises faithfully for strenthening my right rotary cuff muscle for 3 months. My surgeon said that no physical therapy will get rid of the pain. But he said it didn't look like it was a necessity and that I could wait up to 5 years to get it done. I'm just wanting to be able to lift weight up above my shoulders. And I'd like to do some house painting. What risk am I to wait? I've paid my deductible, so it is probably a good time moneywise for me. Unless it is going to cost more than $4,000. And I've got a very incredibly busy summer with classes, and camps. Opinion please.

May 31, 2012
Maybe I shouldn't have arthoroscopic surgery NEW
by: Anonymous

After reading so many of the comments, I'm concerned. My shoulder hurts in the night maybe 2 or 3 times a week. Never in the day unless I lift weight over my head. My doctor said I have two spurs. One on my clavicle and another probably near it because they can pinch one another. I've been doingPT exercises faithfully for strenthening my right rotary cuff muscle for 3 months. My surgeon said that no physical therapy will get rid of the pain. But he said it didn't look like it was a necessity and that I could wait up to 5 years to get it done. I'm just wanting to be able to lift weight up above my shoulders. And I'd like to do some house painting. What risk am I to wait? I've paid my deductible, so it is probably a good time moneywise for me. Unless it is going to cost more than $4,000. And I've got a very incredibly busy summer with classes, and camps. Opinion please.

May 31, 2012
To Maybe I shouldn't... NEW
by: Anonymous

You are risking damage to the muscle, which will create a much longer and more painful recovery. I had only a bone spur and sailed through the procedure. I was back to my regular life in 48 hours and no PT. BUT, I had no damage from the spurs. I believe most of the people on here had far worse conditions and injuries than mine! Remember, with sites like this, you are not going to get the "good" stories because there is no reason to look for help. I found this site by accident! My heart goes out to the people who have had painful surgeries and recoveries, and I pray they find relief. But there are lots of good stories that you never heard about, too!

Jun 07, 2012
48 hrs I think not NEW
by: Tom

Well the previous post is quite misleading. Anyone who is interested in the surgery to remove a bone spur also known as "Subacromial Decompression" should just google "PT protocol for Subacromial Decompression" and you will know exactly what to expect. For that matter just talk to your surgeon. I am in my fourth week of PT for my surgery which also included a cuff repair and in the last two visits the therapist was able to elevate my arm to almost 180deg or overhead. Keep in mind this is all passive movement of the shoulder, protocal for a cuff repair does not allow active movement of the shoulder for 3 months. You could go in for the less invasive bone spur removal and find out after surgery that you had a cuff repair as well. This is very common as partial cuff tears are not easy to find through an MRI.

Jun 07, 2012
To Anonymous NEW
by: Anonymous20

It would help if you distinguished your anonymous with a number or something, so we could address your issue.

I say go for the surgery early. Yes, you may have a busy summer, and you might lose part of it, but your deductible is paid, and the surgery is expensive! Mine was fully covered. I paid $100 bucks of a $26,000 bill, and 3 months after simple bone spur removal and repair of frayed tendons, I can do windmills with my arm. NO pain. Wait till it gets worse, your recovery could be much longer.

My manly man, JD put up with pain for a long time, and after 9 months, he still has pain because he let it go so long.

Do it Now!
Suzi

Jun 07, 2012
Well put Suzi NEW
by: TOM

The longer you wait the longer your recovery will take!!!

Jun 07, 2012
To Tom NEW
by: Anonymous55

Tom,

I'm not sure what you Googled, but I swear on the lives of my children that I was back to my normal life in 48 hours and I was told I would be by my surgeon. He also indicated only about 50% of his patients have painful recoveries and require PT and they are the ones that have damage from the spur. I did not have any muscle or tissue damage and no tears. Ortho-md.com describes Arthroscopic subacromial decompression as a minimally invasive surgical procedure performed on an out-patient basis. It results in minimal to no scaring, little if any pain, and rapid return of function. This was my exact experience. I was not trying to mislead anyone, only tell a different story to help this poor person make a decision. If I had relied on what I read on this board and through my other research, I never would have had the surgery. I am so glad I had it BEFORE I found this site. Again, my heart goes out to those of you that had painful surgeries and recoveries. But it is not the same story for everyone and the positive stories need to be told just as often to complete the full picture. Like anything else medical, early detection and treatment is key to a short recovery.

Sep 06, 2012
IN PAIN CANT GET ANY HELP NEW
by: Anonymous

I am going to have replacement surgery in november. The problem I am having is my doctor will not perscfribe any pain meds now. I have had a cortisone injection and it worked for afew days but the pain retured. I dont know why the doctor wont give me anything for the pain. I have no history of drug abuse. What can I do. I am at my witts end! Any help or advice will be greatly appriciated.

Sep 06, 2012
Pain Meds NEW
by: Anonymous20

I never got any pain meds from my surgeon either. After the surgery I got some, and used them all up. But prior to, nope!

Good luck with your surgery!

Suzi

Sep 07, 2012
Help? NEW
by: Sues

Hello All,
I broke a chunk of bone from the top my Humerus after an accident in October 2011, this healed well it was thought, but then I developed a frozen Shoulder, this resulted in key hole surgery for Capsular Release in May this year. Now x-rays show that I need Invasive surgery to file down bone where the break was to relieve the pain. I'm going ahead with the op, but would really like to hear what to expect from anyone suffering a similar experience.

regards Sues

Sep 07, 2012
Sues NEW
by: Anonymous

Well, this sounds very serious. I can't personally say I've had experience with such extensive surgery, but I do have a way to help prevent "frozen shoulder" from happening to you again.

After my surgery, I was in pain (like we all are) and the thought of going to physical therapy was horrifying! On my first day there, another patient spoke to me while we were doing our exercises, and told me about her friend who had surgery same time she did, but the friend never did the physical therapy and now can't even comb her hair.

She encouraged me to tough it out and faithfully exercise through the pain. I did, and after 3 months I had full shoulder movement with no pain.

I'm sorry for all you have gone through, and I'm hoping you have a better outcome this time!
Suzi

Sep 26, 2012
UPDATE FROM JAN 12, 2012 NEW
by: GENE

Shoulder doing great without the Russian Roulette of shots, much less surger. Still on Flexi Prin since the shoulder pain was an indication of a systemic condition.

Nov 15, 2012
Shoulder pain should I do surgery... NEW
by: SG

I have tears in both shoulders did the pt since August. Now I go in to see my doctor still in pain, now he tells me I have a bone spur and he can do surgery. I guess it is bothering me why I was never told I had a bone spur, and I'm reading that doctors don't usually feel that the bone spur is the reason for the pain. So why is he telling me to do the surgery, he is not even talking about my tears. He said he would look at it when he gets in there. So does this sound correct to you. Did he do things the right way? First MRI, then shots, then pt, but I'm still in pain my left one worse, so now he bring up this bone spur and surgery. Does this sound like something I should do???
Thanks!

Nov 15, 2012
Shoulder pain should I do surgery... NEW
by: SG

I have tears in both shoulders did the pt since August. Now I go in to see my doctor still in pain, now he tells me I have a bone spur and he can do surgery. I guess it is bothering me why I was never told I had a bone spur, and I'm reading that doctors don't usually feel that the bone spur is the reason for the pain. So why is he telling me to do the surgery, he is not even talking about my tears. He said he would look at it when he gets in there. So does this sound correct to you. Did he do things the right way? First MRI, then shots, then pt, but I'm still in pain my left one worse, so now he bring up this bone spur and surgery. Does this sound like something I should do???
Thanks!

Nov 15, 2012
Shoulder spur surgery????? NEW
by: Anonymous

I am confused, I have tears in both shoulders been in pt since August still bad pain more in my left one. Now went back to doctor and he tells me I have a bone spur in left one, and if I can't do my everyday stuff, clean, put my jacket on, do my hair without paini should have the surgery. He didn't really talk about the tears, he said he would look at it while he is in there. Why would he not mentioned this bone spur right from the get go and everything I'm reading say doctor tend not to do surgery on bone spurs. What if that's not my problem and I still have pain. What should I do??? This is thesecond doctor I have seen. The first one told me that it was calcification tendinitis, even though he didn't do a MRI. Then I went to this new doctor he did the MRI, told me there was no calcification sent me to pt and now still in pain now he's talking bone spur and surgery. I don't know what to do.. Help

Dec 12, 2012
b9one spur(little pain) NEW
by: rand

ive been diagnosed with bone spur left shoulder. pain is not so bad,has gotten abit better w physical therapy. it has been 3 months of pt now and seems to me to have hit a wall,as far as being completly pain free. i am very confused with what to do next.hearing a mixture of pros and cons about surgery,can a bone spur be different in the manner in which it can be debilitating? meaning, since pain is not too bad and movement is good should i not do surgery for my paticular bone spur? or should all spurs be removed?

Dec 12, 2012
B9one Spur NEW
by: Anonymous20

The longer you let it go, the more risk of fraying the tendons and the more pain after surgery while healing.

Jan 30, 2013
Don't Delay Surgery for Bone Spur NEW
by: PJ

I had left shoulder pain for 6 months. An MRI showed that I had a bone spur. I tried one cortisone shot and it helped a little but after 3 weeks the pain returned. I opted for arthroscopic surgery and I am so glad I did. They went in and found that the spur was cutting into the bicep tendon. The spur was removed and after one week I feel great. Since the rotator cuff was intact I have no pain and only soreness from physical therapy. I have 95% of my range of motion back one week after surgery and no pain. The longer you wait the more likely the bone spur will cause major damage to the tendons and then you have real problems. So find a good surgeon and get those shoulder bone spurs removed.

Feb 03, 2013
Second Opinion NEW
by: Anonymous

Shoulder pain is a frustrating problem. Unfortunately, shoulder pain is not a diagnosis based on anatomy. Neither is shoulder impingement or a bone spur. We recently published an article on this very subject that may be of some interest: http://www.theshouldercenter.com/shoulderpain/2013/shoulder-surgery/spur-acromioplasty-impingement/
Make sure you have a clear diagnosis and are fully comfortable before moving ahead with treatment. Real success means long term success, not just feeling better for a few weeks or months. Take the time to do your research before moving ahead with treatment.

Feb 05, 2013
Lynda NEW
by: Anonymous

Hi.

I was involved in a car accident 4 years ago and have had right shoulder pain ever since.

I'm due to have the shoulder Arthroscopy on 6th March and I am TERRIFIED.

Really concerned that I havent had an MRI recently or even a ultra sound xray to look into my shoulder. I have had both previously but its over 3 years ago for both.

I had two sessions of cortizone injections into the rota cuff last year that gave temporary help but I'm really concerned that I go through all of this and it hurts more after.

I dont feel as though I have any choice but to try... Im in so much pain daily. I used to be a scuba diving instructor, but now I would struggle to put the kit on.

Could anyone reasure me.?
Let me know how bad the scars are?
And also the pain afterwards... cant take much more pain. I've had it for 4 years.

Please help?? xx

Feb 05, 2013
Lynda NEW
by: Lynda

Hi.

I was involved in a car accident 4 years ago and have had right shoulder pain ever since.

I'm due to have the shoulder Arthroscopy on 6th March and I am TERRIFIED.

Really concerned that I havent had an MRI recently or even a ultra sound xray to look into my shoulder. I have had both previously but its over 3 years ago for both.

I had two sessions of cortizone injections into the rota cuff last year that gave temporary help but I'm really concerned that I go through all of this and it hurts more after.

I dont feel as though I have any choice but to try... Im in so much pain daily. I used to be a scuba diving instructor, but now I would struggle to put the kit on.

Could anyone reasure me.?
Let me know how bad the scars are?
And also the pain afterwards... cant take much more pain. I've had it for 4 years.

Please help?? xx

Feb 05, 2013
To Lynda NEW
by: Anonymous20

I find it odd that they are going by an old MRI. Other than getting a second opinion, you will have to trust your doctor. It's hard for me to bring comfort to you since your pain is caused by an accident and mine was just bone spurs. You didn't say what the problem is. Is it a torn rotor cuff?

Both my husband and I had surgery for bone spurs and fraying tendons. No scars! I was pain free in 3 months, but his pain has lasted much longer. It isn't constant. Just when he reaches a certain way.

We are all individuals and we all heal differently. Our surgeon assured us both that we needed to get the surgery done to prevent further damage, and to faithfully do the painful rehab exercises. They aren't fun to do, but they will help to get your motion back. A frozen shoulder is NOT how you want to live out your days!

Any surgery is a shock to your system and where nerves are involved you will experience pain. Will it be worse than what you have now? Hard to know.

I can say this. Personally I was not in constant pain prior to the surgery. My shoulder hurt when I reached in certain positions. After surgery, I WAS in constant pain, but it gradually diminished as I healed, and within 3 months, I was free of any pain.

Let us know how your surgery goes. Best wishes and Good luck!

Feb 05, 2013
thank you NEW
by: Lynda

Thank you for your comments. I really appreciate them.

Could you manage to dress and take care of yourself quite quickly after the operation?
Or did it take the 3 months for this to be a reasonable thing to do?

Lynda x

Feb 05, 2013
To Lynda NEW
by: Anonymous20

Taking care of yourself after surgery. It will get easier over time. First day or two is tough, but you learn to do everything with your good arm. As the pain lessons each month, you will do better and better!

Pants are a snap to pull on with one arm and zip or button.

Wearing tops that button or zip, instead of pull over makes it easier at first. Eventually you learn to put your sore arm into a pullover first, then your head, then wiggle that good arm into the other sleeve.

The bra! I learned to turn it inside out, upside down and fasten in the front, then turn it up, and it will be right side up and work it around to put your arms into it.

Brushing your hair isn't real fun either, but you'll figure out a way. Please do the exercises they tell you at your therapy. One woman I met at therapy told me she started with another woman on the same week, and she faithfully excercised, and the other lady did not, and now the other lady can't even comb her hair! You don't want that!!

I found laying my arm on a big pillow while sleeping helped the pain at night too. They will give you pain pills after the surgery, and I took full advantage of those!!

Good luck!

Feb 05, 2013
Great support NEW
by: Anonymous

Thank you.. you are a good support for me.

My hair is quite long so I guess I could tie it back for a few days. A good friend has promised to come over on a weekend and help me wash and straighten it.

I'll keep everything crossed and hope that it works... I want to be diving again this time next year... I still have a few sharks to find before I'm done xx

Mar 31, 2013
bone spurs and bursitis NEW
by: Anonymous

I had Psoriatic Arthritis diagnosed Jan 2011. An MRI scan for Painful shoulders showed large spurs and bursitis plus torn ligaments.

Had injections but the pain soon came back. Had shoulder decrompression July 2012 on right shoulder to remove spurs and bursitis.
Suffered terrible after surgery-pain far worse than before and had frozen shoulder. Had to have morphine,Tramadol and paracetamol. Very painful weekly physio sessions. Unable to sleep ,wash or dress.

Now 8 mth on have full mobility -although arm still stiff on times and I do get occassional pain but no where near what it was before and just after op.

As left arm then became the dominant arm its suffering daily pain.

Never thought Id say this but Ill will be having that one done.

Apr 02, 2013
Does anyone's shoulder BLADE hurt from their bone spurs? NEW
by: Jacat

I am scheduled to have a bone spur in my shoulder removed next week. I have the pain in my shoulder, up my neck and down my arm, but it is the worst in my shoulder blade. Has anyone else had that also?

Apr 03, 2013
pain in shoulder blade response NEW
by: Anonymous

Yes mate -Ive had pain in shoulder blade & up neck too. Trouble lifting arm and pain down arm and pins and needles in hand. Ive had spurs shaved and bursitis (inflammation) treated on right shoulder and 8 mnths on its much better. Now I need my left one done. You can see there are many stories of successful surgery .
All Ill say to you is be prepared-the surgeons do their bit but after the op its not always plain sailing for everyone and I experienced the most horrendous pain after but it has been worth it.
Make sure you are discharged with plenty of pain meds-get some heat and ice pads ready-they helped me tremendously. Also plenty of pillows for support.

Weekly physio after is essential and I had heat treatment too. Sometines the pain was so bad I just had a massage on shoulders and neck-heaven!
Also the therapists added large plasters to support my shoulder as the muscles contracted and tightened-never think this would help but it did. I also got a large blow up exercise ball to support my arm during stretching exercises-brilliant help! Good luck.

Apr 23, 2013
Recovering NEW
by: Jill

I was lifting heavy and messed up my shoulder in December, then much worse in January. following an MRI, my Dr diagnosed bursitus. I took it very easy on the arms for 3 months (no vinyasa yoga or crossfit arm movements like push ups, pull ups, etc). This was very difficult, but I stayed active in other ways.neither anti-inflammatories or steroids worked, so I had the surgery. (Where the spur was also found and shaved down).

I strongly recommend renting a sports ice machine like Game Ready (it's a god send and ice is imperative for recovery). I've lowered my pain med dosage significantly, but was told no PT unti my follow up Thurs (1week and a day from surgery). its beena week and while I'm gaining movement, recovery is slower than I anticipated :( I'm still in pain and exhausted. Are there different degrees if severity of spurs, their location ? I know I'll get info from the dr thurs, but am concerned because many people seem up and unslinged in a few days. Any helpful info is appreciated,

Apr 23, 2013
Thanks for responding NEW
by: Jcat

My surgeon made me put off surgery in order to do a diagnostic shot into my shoulder.... Again. He said that my shoulder blade can't hurt from a bone spur, but since the shot almost 2 weeks ago, I have little to no pain thanks to that shot. By the time I had my shirt back on after he did it, the pain was 90% gone. He is INSISTANT that the pain is not from my shoulder. Says that my shoulder wouldn't make my shoulder blade hurt. It makes me really angry because the shot in my shoulder relieved me so I guess I don't get what his problem is. It's the second shot I've gotten, both have helped until they wore off. I think I need a second opinion.

Apr 24, 2013
following surgery NEW
by: Anonymous

I think any guidelines on recovery/pain should be taken with a punch of salt. We are all individual and recocer at our own pace.

I was told by surgeon and physio that the sling is normally be removed and just given to go hone and for the day after surgery. I was told not to rely on the sling.
The sling for me, was off and on for 3 weeks. I had severe pain and just the weight of my arm following surgery was unbearable. I had pain in the shoulder-the blade-ths elbow and neck.
I had a holiday booked and found even a short walk caused pain. So I put my sling on for just the time I went out-it also acted as a visible sign of surgery as Id lost count of how many times people bumped into me causing me more pain. I even bumped it myself! The sling protected me!

Apr 24, 2013
following surgery NEW
by: Anonymous

I think any guidelines on recovery/pain should be taken with a punch of salt. We are all individual and recocer at our own pace.

I was told by surgeon and physio that the sling is normally be removed and just given to go hone and for the day after surgery. I was told not to rely on the sling.
The sling for me, was off and on for 3 weeks. I had severe pain and just the weight of my arm following surgery was unbearable. I had pain in the shoulder-the blade-ths elbow and neck.
I had a holiday booked and found even a short walk caused pain. So I put my sling on for just the time I went out-it also acted as a visible sign of surgery as Id lost count of how many times people bumped into me causing me more pain. I even bumped it myself! The sling protected me!

Apr 24, 2013
pain in shoulder NEW
by: Anonymous

Id also like to add a comment regarding the surgeon saying you cant have pain in the blade. I met a surgeon (for a different condition )who said he himself had suffered with it. He met a colleague who was an orthapaedic shoulder surgeon. His personal advice was to try Physio first as the op itself was so incredibly painful with no guarantee of success. He said no one could really understand the pain until they have personally experienced the condition. By th e same token some people experience very little pain.He gave him some specific exercises and my surgeon recovered without surgery. He was lucky-I had to have the op. I repeatedly put ice packs on the pain in my shoulder blade and had thysio there too-my surgeon couldnt believe the pain I had-I think he thought I was ove reacting!I began to believe it as all in my head! Of course it wasnt.
Ive been told on many hospital meetings for a variety of problems that I have a high pain threshold-ive gone to hospital with conditions that Ive "put up" with that "normal" people would have visited hospital for(to give you n example-encephalitis- I had 4 lumber punctures and didnt flinch. Fractured bone in shoulder-I didnt cry out during shoulder manipulation so they thought it wasnt broken-x ray proved it was! ).

YOU know what pain you experience, injections have relieved it (they did in my case too) just try to manage your pain the best way you can and yes a second opinion may be a good idea!

Apr 24, 2013
pain in shoulder NEW
by: Anonymous

Id also like to add a comment regarding the surgeon saying you cant have pain in the blade. I met a surgeon (for a different condition )who said he himself had suffered with it. He met a colleague who was an orthapaedic shoulder surgeon. His personal advice was to try Physio first as the op itself was so incredibly painful with no guarantee of success. He said no one could really understand the pain until they have personally experienced the condition. By th e same token some people experience very little pain.He gave him some specific exercises and my surgeon recovered without surgery. He was lucky-I had to have the op. I repeatedly put ice packs on the pain in my shoulder blade and had thysio there too-my surgeon couldnt believe the pain I had-I think he thought I was ove reacting!I began to believe it as all in my head! Of course it wasnt.
Ive been told on many hospital meetings for a variety of problems that I have a high pain threshold-ive gone to hospital with conditions that Ive "put up" with that "normal" people would have visited hospital for(to give you n example-encephalitis- I had 4 lumber punctures and didnt flinch. Fractured bone in shoulder-I didnt cry out during shoulder manipulation so they thought it wasnt broken-x ray proved it was! ).

YOU know what pain you experience, injections have relieved it (they did in my case too) just try to manage your pain the best way you can and yes a second opinion may be a good idea!

Apr 24, 2013
minimal scars NEW
by: Anonymous

scars are hardly noticable- amazing!

Apr 24, 2013
minimal scars NEW
by: Anonymous

scars are hardly noticable- amazing!

Apr 24, 2013
minimal scars NEW
by: Anonymous

scars are hardly noticable- amazing!

Apr 24, 2013
minimal scars NEW
by: Anonymous

scars are hardly noticable- amazing!

Apr 24, 2013
Shoulder blade comments NEW
by: Anonymous

It helps me so much to hear these things. I feel like my doc thinks I am over reacting. I too have a high pain threshold. I've been dealing with this since 2008. I first saw this doc in 2011 and just went back 2 weeks ago. I've been reading a lot about possible shoulder BLADE probs and it sounds as tho this doctor of mine is just giving me grief. I have no idea why. I've seen him all of 3 times in the last 2.5 yrs.
My muscle in my shoulder blade is visible now as a large bump under my skin. Im pretty concerned its damaged beyond repair. I'm tired of being in pain.

Apr 24, 2013
Get more Opinions NEW
by: Anonymous20

Is your doctor the only one in town? Putting up with this for 3 years is nuts.

Drive to the nearest big city, and get other opinions.

Also, this forum is slow to respond, and you are quadruple posting the same thing, and our emails are being flooded with the same thing. Be patient. Let your post go through

Apr 24, 2013
Posting NEW
by: Anonymous

I only click submit once so the site is doing the 4c postings. Someone else's did it to me too.

Apr 24, 2013
apologies several posts NEW
by: Anonymous

Apologies I thought my computer had an issue so I didnt realise Id made several posts. Ill be patient! sorry

May 08, 2013
Bone spurs and a subcortical cyst NEW
by: Anonymous

HAS ANYONE OUT THERE HAD THIS COMBINATION? MY RECENT MRI SHOWED VERY BAD ARTHRITIS,BONE SPURS AND A SUBCORTICAL CYST, BUT NO ROTATOR CUFF PROBLEM. I AM A GOLFER AND BOWLER AND AM CONCERNED ABOUT THIS, BECAUSE THE CURRENT PAIN PREVENTS BOTH. I CAN DO SHORT CHIPS AND I CAN PUTT, BUT CAN'T BOWL. I HAVE GOTTEN SOME PAIN RELIEF FROM AQUATIC THERAPY. I'M SEEING A SURGEON SOON, BUT WONDERED IF ANYONE HAS HAD A SIMILAR MRI.

May 08, 2013
Bone spurs and a subcortical cyst NEW
by: Anonymous

HAS ANYONE OUT THERE HAD THIS COMBINATION? MY RECENT MRI SHOWED VERY BAD ARTHRITIS,BONE SPURS AND A SUBCORTICAL CYST, BUT NO ROTATOR CUFF PROBLEM. I AM A GOLFER AND BOWLER AND AM CONCERNED ABOUT THIS, BECAUSE THE CURRENT PAIN PREVENTS BOTH. I CAN DO SHORT CHIPS AND I CAN PUTT, BUT CAN'T BOWL. I HAVE GOTTEN SOME PAIN RELIEF FROM AQUATIC THERAPY. I'M SEEING A SURGEON SOON, BUT WONDERED IF ANYONE HAS HAD A SIMILAR MRI.

Sep 07, 2013
UPDATE>> NEW
by: GENE

See my posting of Jan 18, 2012>>
No shots or surgery as recommended. Have full strengh, movement and no pain but it lets me know there is a shoulder there once in awhile. Lucky??

Sep 08, 2013
Spurs & Bursitis NEW
by: Anonymous

Sandwiched between the rotator cuff muscles and the outer layer of large bulky muscles is a structure known as the subacromial bursa. Bursae are everywhere in the body. They are found wherever two body parts move against one another and there is no joint to reduce the friction. A bursa is simply a sac between two moving surfaces that contains a small amount of lubricating fluid.
This fluid is what becomes inflamed, When I had my surgery it was the same in that the surgeon said he would "go in & do what needed"
I had several large bone spurs that were shaved down and they use a small instrument to remove the inflammation.
At first I was in agony- I wont pretend- I regretted having the op as the pain was worse. I ended up with a frozen shoulder and made the other worse at it became the dominant one.
However after about 10 months and lots of physio- I beleive I made the right decision as its much easier.
You MUST get good pain mnagement advice- I didnt have this until a few months in and from then it got easier. Im now contemplating having the other one done.
It isnt always a long term solution as it can still become inflamed but for me ,so far so good. My rheumatologist said I was so bad after as my Psoriatic arthritis is so widespread and basiclly my body went into shock!
There are three little scars where they went in but they are hardly noticable.

It can only be YOUR choice as we are all individual and one person respodes better than another- Having sid that I researched this op extensively before my op and it seems to be very successful generally.
Good Luck.

Sep 27, 2013
Surgery Scheduled 0ct 9th NEW
by: Lvmyhugs1969

Two years ago I started having pain in my right shoulder Cortisone shots originally helped but got to the point they do no good. x rays show a huge bone spur that's the whole length of my shoulder and another one that's small, recent Mri shows rotary cuff damage "reason for popping" and torn tendon as well as pinched nerve. I was told any kind of therapy as of now would just cause more problems as the spurs are ripping away at the inside of my shoulder. I was also told if I didn't have surgery at this point that I risk the point of bones fusing together and causing complete lose of movement because of how huge the one bone spur is. I hope things go well but even if I'm left with some pain I'd rather have the surgery so that I'm not left with arm I can not move at all. Especially when it's my right one and I'm right handed.

Sep 27, 2013
Surgery Scheduled 0ct 9th NEW
by: Lvmyhugs1969

Two years ago I started having pain in my right shoulder Cortisone shots originally helped but got to the point they do no good. x rays show a huge bone spur that's the whole length of my shoulder and another one that's small, recent Mri shows rotary cuff damage "reason for popping" and torn tendon as well as pinched nerve. I was told any kind of therapy as of now would just cause more problems as the spurs are ripping away at the inside of my shoulder. I was also told if I didn't have surgery at this point that I risk the point of bones fusing together and causing complete lose of movement because of how huge the one bone spur is. I hope things go well but even if I'm left with some pain I'd rather have the surgery so that I'm not left with arm I can not move at all. Especially when it's my right one and I'm right handed.

Sep 27, 2013
After Surgury, Therapy is essential! NEW
by: Anonymous20

You are correct, or your doctors are. Therapy prior to surgery only makes the tearing worse! But after surgery, you will be in serious, yes.. serious pain! BUT, if you don't exercise the arm which the surgeon has repaired, it will freeze and you won't be able to move it.

Do you want that? Nope! None of us do. We are here because surgery is done or surgery is pending. That therapy was tough, but, I can swing my arm any way I want with no pain! NONE!

Do your exercises at home. Your therapist will give them to you. Do them faithfully. No pain, No gain!

A lady at therapy shared a story with me. She started with another lady. She did her homework and the other lady can't comb her hair because she feared the pain.

There will be pain. But you already have that, so buck up!! We are all on your side!
Suzi

Oct 25, 2013
3 days post left shoulder arthroscopy NEW
by: Amanda

I had the subacromial decompression and arthritis removed from my left shoulder 3 days ago. I have impingement and this was suppose relieve it. So far I'm improving each day but it's still very painful. I started therapy the day after surgery. I have suffered severe pain for over 2 years so I'm really hoping this helps. My therapist says it just takes time to heal and make sure I ice it regularly. Guess I'll have to wait and see.

Jan 16, 2014
upcoming surgery NEW
by: Anonymous

I just wanted to thank you all for your comments. I have surgery coming up in the next month for bone spurs and a tear on my right shoulder. Reading all your comments really helped me know what to expect. At first, they thought it was just a rotator cuff injury so I did physical therapy and had 2 cortisone injections. The first injection worked well for almost 5 months, the 2nd had no real impact at all. At that point, they did an MRI and found the bone spurs and tear. I'll be sure to give %110 in physical therapy after my surgery on your advice. So happy I came across this board!

Mar 04, 2014
2nd surgery NEW
by: Dr. H. Groves orthopedics

this Pt. should have arthromtomy shoulder
then arthroplasty of acromium with allrepair
of rot. cuff as needed and removal of calc.
At this time pt requires SPACE for
soft tissue rot cuff fibrosis and
bursa should be anatomically removed
The body will make a new bursa with no
fibrosis
the results are 85 - 90 % in my 30 years
of doing the operation
please read the superior work and research
by Dr. Neer New York
He gets A++ for his great articles - I
started doing his surgery after his first article
and never looked back
the space is one car garage - many people need two car garage - espec - athletes
you can make wonder space with arthrotomy
if indicated drill insertion of supra spinatous
insertion - it will become stronger

Mar 04, 2014
2nd surgery NEW
by: Dr. H. Groves orthopedics

this Pt. should have arthromtomy shoulder
then arthroplasty of acromium with allrepair
of rot. cuff as needed and removal of calc.
At this time pt requires SPACE for
soft tissue rot cuff fibrosis and
bursa should be anatomically removed
The body will make a new bursa with no
fibrosis
the results are 85 - 90 % in my 30 years
of doing the operation
please read the superior work and research
by Dr. Neer New York
He gets A++ for his great articles - I
started doing his surgery after his first article
and never looked back
the space is one car garage - many people need two car garage - espec - athletes
you can make wonder space with arthrotomy
if indicated drill insertion of supra spinatous
insertion - it will become stronger

Mar 04, 2014
2nd surgery NEW
by: Dr. H. Groves orthopedics

this Pt. should have arthromtomy shoulder
then arthroplasty of acromium with allrepair
of rot. cuff as needed and removal of calc.
At this time pt requires SPACE for
soft tissue rot cuff fibrosis and
bursa should be anatomically removed
The body will make a new bursa with no
fibrosis
the results are 85 - 90 % in my 30 years
of doing the operation
please read the superior work and research
by Dr. Neer New York
He gets A++ for his great articles - I
started doing his surgery after his first article
and never looked back
the space is one car garage - many people need two car garage - espec - athletes
you can make wonder space with arthrotomy
if indicated drill insertion of supra spinatous
insertion - it will become stronger

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